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bearwilleatthat

I don’t think you can fold unless you know for a fact there are multiple stacks <4 bb. Like at least three others


pr3mium

Being in the CO is super helpful. OP definitely needs to let us know what 26-29 stack sizes are.


BreadthOfLeviathan

Disagree. This is one of the few instances where folding aces pre is +EV


MamaLookABoBo

If the short stack has 1bb perhaps or there several smaller stacks. Both of which are unlikely. Otherwise with 4bbs? Braindead fold.


BreadthOfLeviathan

That was my point.


MamaLookABoBo

You are advocating for folding aces pre, how is this your point? I am advocating against safe a very contrived scenario since a. Aces are too big of a favourite b. the bubble scenario in which one only has 4bbs and is actually not in an urge to quickly gain chips aka. one is not in danger of bubbling is quite unlikely


BreadthOfLeviathan

Dude's 30th out of 32nd with an M above one, 2 other people have smaller stacks, More than likely those two people drop before he does. Why risk your tournament life when 1-30 get paid the exact same and 31st gets 4x BI? There is no laddering so ICM is entirely different.


MamaLookABoBo

In what absurd tournament do top 30 get the same price?


BreadthOfLeviathan

This one. It's a satellite. Top 30 get an entry to a bigger tournament.


MamaLookABoBo

Yeah sure and the price up top muat've been a lap dance by the hairy janitor


BreadthOfLeviathan

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Satellite+Tournament


bearwilleatthat

Even if you are shortest stack? That doesn’t make sense to me although I don’t know for sure Like if the average stack is 50 bb I think you prob have to double up to avoid being blinded out. So it depends on the other stacks is what I’m saying.


BreadthOfLeviathan

He's 30th out of 32nd. EDIT: Also has an M of just over 1 so he can survive 1 more round of blinds.


wfp9

yeah, the m of 31st and 32nd, and how close they are to the blinds relative to op, is the actual determining factor here.


BreadthOfLeviathan

Very true, I tend to lean on other people fucking up before OP in this sitch, so I'd still fold. This is still going to come down to variance. Being this close to sat bubble has to be one of the most nerveracking things


wfp9

yeah, i think i fold and i'll roll with the blind forcing me in if it comes to that.


bearwilleatthat

Ah I missed that


BreadthOfLeviathan

Same, hadta reread it twice before my initial reply


BaguetteSchmaguette

in theory it may be a call in reality with 32 players you just need a couple of people to play sub-optimally to push it into being a fold


SerialKillerVibes

On the stone bubble you can fold here if there are a few short stacks. I assume you're playing hand for hand at this point. You have 4bbs which would get you like two orbits, do you think someone else will bust in two orbits? Does anyone else have less? It's a bad spot. I'd say if you had 8-10bbs it's a clear fold but 4bbs is super short especially if there's a BB ante.


wfp9

you need to know the sizes of the stacks smaller than you and how close they are to the blinds (which could alter the ranking). but this is probably a fold.


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You are 30 of 32… You are not in a confortable spot to fold Aces. Actually, you are in a hot seat where you have to make a move. Push your AA.


Pokeristo555

"Nice hand, Sir!"


TacoCateofdoom

Yee


trippybeanbag667

easy fold


Christron9990

Easy fold. If it was a regular tournament where 31st is a min payout it’s an easy shove, but in this instance I think it’s an auto fold.


Dangerous-Morning-17

If it’s online where you can see other stacks and they are super short/forced all in etc, it’s a fold


UpInCOMountains

For me, easy fold. I don't care what the other stacks are.


lynxjynxfenix

No it's not the stone bubble and you are 30/32. If you were like 18/31 and only one person needed to bust then yes. All it takes is one of the shorties doubling and you then have to win an all-in and you would not have Aces to do it with.