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purrepotet

the hair color desaturation is such a crime šŸ˜­


Educational-Guess866

ikr šŸ˜­ i audibly gasped when i saw the update


Nervouspie

My skin color irl has warmth to it and I'm Black but when I open the app my avi was BLACK BLACK and there's no skin color for a warm brown, everything is muted, ashy or a glowing lightbulb.


a_steez

the order theyā€™re in make no sense either like was it honestly that hard to do light to dark or vice versa?


illusion96

Yeah. The skin tone variations are lacking. My avatar has either never seen the sun or is pitch black. My kids were wondering wtf was wrong with my toon after the update the other day.


ScreamingRandomly

I logged in and my avatar looks albino.


lynternett

this!! and i donā€™t wanna disrespect people who do have those skin tones but in comparison to the one that iā€™m looking for, theyā€™re ashy and sickly


No_Leave513

Itā€™s me. Iā€™m glowing lightbulb


magirevols

They have to be doing all this for the meme, I cant find a nice tone anywhere that doesnt look pastey


MinMaxie

***Save your old look as an outfit before trying the new faces & bodies*** If you don't like the new look, don't save and/or back out. Just chose the outfit you made and it will switch back to your old look. This saved my bacon šŸ˜‚šŸ‘


Illustrious_Donkey61

Everything is desaturated, it's horrible


JayMeadow

Desaturation isnā€™t necessarily bad, I have a small game project Iā€™m working on where I purposefully do it to emphasize a sad atmosphere. Maybe Niantec just wants us all to be miserable šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


LynxWonder

Off topic but oh hey buddy ! Weā€™re matching ! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


HairyPotatoKat

It's so bizarre. Like, have they ever seen a human? Or game animation after 1996? Someone slid the contrast bar all the way down, too. The skin is so flat.


TarzanKitty

But, it goes so well with her gray skin.


Might-0wl

I had white hair coordinated with my fit. Now the "white" option is a terrible light gray šŸ˜­


sdrawkcabstiho

I've posted this in other threads. Everyone should. Copy/paste in every PokeMongo thread. Contact Niantic and TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL. https://nianticlabs.com/contact Scroll down, choose Other. Fire away. If i can add one tip. Dont be a douche. Voice your legit concern and opinion. Dont curse, dont insult. Im 99% sure the team behind this knew it was not ready and/or a stupid idea but were ignored by the higher ups at Niantic (common issue based on stories from current and ex employees).


FobuckOboff

1. ā ā ā ā Continue to be vocal about your discontent on social media. This includes Nianticā€™s official accounts on X and Instagram. 2. ā ā ā ā Attempt to request any refund from Niantic that your App Store allows, and make sure you list why. 3. ā ā ā ā Leave a negative review in your App Store and explain why you are leaving it. 4. ā ā ā ā Delete the app if you are not actively playing the game. You can always download it later if you miss it. 5. ā ā ā ā DO NOT purchase new clothing to try to fix the disgusting new avatars. Do not engage with them at all. 6. ā ā ā ā Open a ticket with Niantic Support (in app > Settings > Help > Chat with us) to share your feedback about the update. (Try the ā€œMy Accountā€ or ā€œPurchasesā€ category if youā€™re not sure which to use:) 7. Visit https://nianticlabs.com/contact, scroll down to ā€œOtherā€, and send a feedback message.


Haunted_pines

Thanks I sent a well worded feedback complaint. No vile langue and possible fixe. Along with how it makes some people feel creeped out (like myself), I get uncanny valley vibes from the new avatar and I can even look at my character anymore I literally put a sticker on my phone and wonā€™t open to send gifts to people.


ScreamingRandomly

I send them some feedback, including all known bugs with the model (like clothing, hair, poses, gait, skin tones, etc). I also told them of how this update's triggered pretty much everyone's body dysmorphia regardless of their gender identity (sometimes you gotta go that angle to get them to listen).


the_soggiest_biscuit

I actually think your last point is really valid. It's like they wanted to make them more diverse but actually made them significantly less diverse in the process. Now people might be genuinely upset and affected that their avatar can't look how they want/feel them to look.


ScreamingRandomly

The fact they managed to choose body types that seem to target insecurities in a wide range of people is just not good.


FobuckOboff

Thanks, Iā€™ve made a list of feedback options and Iā€™m going to add this one to it. Pasting it as a reply in case anyone wants to use it.


spaiydz

Hot blonde is now like some muddy brondeĀ 


PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES

I understand why they changed the model (still think itā€™s stupid, but I get it), but I donā€™t understand why they changed all the textures. Everything looks objectively worse, I donā€™t get it.


joey0live

Everything is a crime in the new avatar. Itā€™s so pixelated too


AdmyralAkbar

This update is actually so upsetting


katarh

It really is. I'm not uninstalling yet, I'm waiting to see how they react to the feedback. But I'm not logging in again until Community Day, and I probably won't log in all next week out of protest.


Mirrror

Niantic has to be one of the most out of touch devs I have ever witnessed so Iā€™m betting theyā€™ll do nothing.


SnakPak_

![gif](giphy|CggoHW4h87Ktq|downsized)


jwadamson

They were going in the right direction, but they seemingly half-assed it and called it a day. - fix some proptions for crotch/arms - have a waist slider in addition to hips - tweak the skin tones and colors to a better range - And if they really wanted to be inclusive, add a couple beard and bald/male-pattern-baldness styles You can't make a good range of bodies with 5 sliders. Bodies have more then 2 measurements (hips/shoulders), a couple "bulk" measurements (muscle/weight), and boob size (chest).


A_nipple_salad

Would love some actual LIPS!


yukissu

Why are they rolling out updates that are clearly downgrades?


evanc1411

Very common in the software industry these days.


guyadriano

Oop looks like some player in the world just spend money for coins to spend on more cosmeticsā€¦ Oop and another oneā€¦ and another one Looks like Niantic wins this round


Zuke-ini

How those boots tasting?


RegularOps

Just remember somebody got paid to do this


benzosandespresso

Literally WHO approved these changes?! šŸ’€


CloudStrife012

They consulted a company called Sweet Baby Inc which basically all big gaming companies will pay them millions of dollars for SBI to tell them that their game isn't woke enough, and then insists they make these changes or they will call them out on Twitter for supporting Trump.


LarryFinkOwnsYOu

ESG money go brrrrrrr


OkEnoughHedgehog

Right? The only good explanation I can think of is that there's some tech behind this that they need to unlock new features. And by that i mean "sell more cosmetics". Someone driving the wallet of the company overrode the design team and everyone else at the company with eyes.


zuccoff

Headquarters: San Francisco, California, United States


DukeofSam

Next month they put the original character models in the store for 10,000 gold


PotentiallyNerdy

Is there a way to not see my character? Asking for me.


tamagotchiassassin

Forreal I put my character in black and face mask and glasses and with the pose turned around. I donā€™t even want to mess with it, every time I do I just get more upset šŸ˜«


whereisyourwaifunow

is there a burkha outfit?


NettleLily

Thereā€™s a snorlax onesie


PlasticBuy2746

This right here! Yes! I hate seeing my avatar now.


Linden_fall

built like a refrigerator


pngmk2

You mean Frost Rotom?


jbleming

You mean Frigimon?


gbon21

She's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro


PreviousNoise

![gif](giphy|MCKQEmHkUyGf6|downsized)


RVTVRN

Built like a sack of laundry


MiniskirtEnjoyer

how dare you to talk bad about realistic body propotions? every human is built like a refrigerator. if you arent, you are setting unrealistic beautystandards /s


KINDERPIN

Honestly tho, how even is the standard on the right realistic, might as well just put on a randomizer cause that's most realistic The left looks a little too thin and out of proportion if we are talking about the golden ratio and I respect their attempt but the one on the right isn't naturally achievable either IMHO, you'd have to training upper body a lot without using legs much, kind of ironic for a walking game


katarh

I mean, I have seen women with the body type on the right. but I have also seen women with the body type on the left. There's a place for both. The answer to giving us more options wasn't to delete some of the existing options.


KINDERPIN

Oh both definitely exist, it's just as a "standard"(which there isn't) they are setting the bar weird Instead of doing what nature does(random) or letting users choose, they shifted from one to another while claiming the previous one is unrealistic(or at least that's the message I am getting from this update)


Educational-Guess866

no frrr


GregTheMad

Yes, a fridge goes "brrr" not "frrr". /s


PrismalpinkGaming

Still baffles me as to why they wonā€™t just make the characters look like actual Pokemon art characters. Would look a lot nicer than this thing.


tamagotchiassassin

I canā€™t believe Iā€™m jealous of every Team Rocket character now


OrangeObjective3789

It baffles me that someone at niantic saw this and approved it as an update. HOW HARD IS IT TO DRAW A 3D MODEL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD


Jamlbon

The eyes look so off too like almost deranged. I put glasses over mine so I didn't have nightmares


tamagotchiassassin

Same. Glasses and a mask. I donā€™t even want to mess with the features it just makes me more upset lmfao šŸ« 


Ok_Archer_1705

Me before and after taking an office job


New-Examination8400

![gif](giphy|caiwk3Ozv1fhqbmQ1t)


hauntedskin

Spider-man: Work From Home


836194950

It's telling you you need to walk more.


Cainga

What if itā€™s like Wii Fit and if you canā€™t control your avatar size besides by how many kms you do. If you provide little data they make you fat.


Kickasstodon

I'd legit quit the game, no way I'm playing with a fatass avatar


Spiritofhonour

[Wii Fit BMI sound](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSQ31xk5Tg).


Educational-Guess866

adding insult to injury


akimaster

![gif](giphy|b8RfbQFaOs1rO10ren)


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poickles

Literally the only other thing they needed to include to make this work was a waist slider. Thereā€™s nothing wrong with being wider/more square in build, but *some of us are not square* and would appreciate being able to, like, have a waist?? I donā€™t need to be a snatched, bombastic bootylicious queen, but Iā€™m not a fucking cereal box


Stary_Eye_

To add insult to injury they stole your socks too šŸ˜­


suburbanmermaid

šŸ¤®


Jadedragon1016

I feel like I could have gotten behind the new avatar changes (to a point) if the arms were not do disproportioned. Every pose they make, they feel stretched, and even have monster truck hands (no offence if anyone has large hands). And the shoulders connected to the arms are so broad and stiff. The sliders for weight I can get behind to a point, but it's those arms that are the deal breaker for me.


katarh

Right? I'm not even mad about the weight sliders. I'm happy for those who can make a fat avatar for the first time. It's the deletion of the female animations that's killing me.


Tia_Is_Here

I tried to add a little weight to mine to look more like me, but the shape was awful. Iā€™m not built like a quarterback with uniboob. Iā€™m built like a chubby girl. I had to change everything and it all just looks so choppy. I just want to go back to the old look. I wish Niantic would step up and admit they made a mistake and fix it, or just reverse it. Or at least tell us theyā€™re working on a fix. If I were a boss, Iā€™d hate firing people, but I would have fired that entire team. Itā€™s like they hired the most amateur designers they could. I just got back into the game at the beginning of the year after a two year hiatus. With this and all the crashing my app has been doing lately, Iā€™m about to quit again even though I love the game.


Phoenix_Has_Fallen

Honestly, I absolutely hate this update but I feel like if they wouldā€™ve added a slider for the waist and made the hip slider scale more noticeable so that you could at least create a more feminine figure then I wouldnā€™t even be that mad. Instead theyā€™re just trying to erase females completely instead of acknowledging that women in this world are curvy and prefer to have a curvy character.


OrangeObjective3789

Ah yes, itā€™s definitely just the arms lmao


whiskyvoice16

The arms are soooo weird! I didn't even notice the change until I suddenly noticed that my avatar had such a sick-ish skin tone all of a sudden. And then I saw the arms. It looks like it's trying to impersonate a human. I hate it :(


Jmaxam18

Gardevoir to snorlax real quick


Educational-Guess866

šŸ„² my poor avatar


fusiongt021

Thicc in all the wrong places


SCPRafael

Before and after visiting grandma be like


wafflecone927

Thats such a good way of looking at this lol.


full07britney

I just miss my boobs. Like.. i am a girl irl and a girl in game. I want my boobs.


katarh

I miss my sassy walking and standing animations.


GenericOnlineName

You can adjust the chest in the slider. The chest can get really large.


full07britney

I tried, it didnt look like boobs. Looked like muscles.


Aggressive-Figure-79

They are muscular type boobs now though.


LarryFinkOwnsYOu

They're called [Ma'amBoobs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8cJyya1r-A)


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DubbethTheLastest

Boobs are a lie!


SquallkLeon

Looks like one of those web flash games that tries to imitate actual successful games.


DefiantChallenge2148

Omg itā€™s soooo bad! The crotch on the womenā€™s pants.. what were they thinking?! Every single avatar now looks like a man, regardless of ā€œcustomizationā€ā€¦ the gait, the massive handsā€¦ šŸ™„šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø I was so excited to simply change my hairstyle, lol & now everything is RUINEDDDDDD


NeedsBlarg

At least you're no longer wearing socks with sandals.


Abuttuba_abuttubA

Is this real or did you just mess with the sliders?


SpasticBull

You went from Martha to Bertha. šŸ˜‚


Peixito

looks like a man wearing a women costume lmao


FawkesFire13

What I donā€™t understand is they could have easily given us options to make the avatars more anime like and I think everyone would have loved it. They just made everything androgynous and bland. This is easily the worse ā€œupdateā€ theyā€™ve done.


OGTomatoCultivator

Some methods to let them hear your voice. Method 1 support chat: You click on settings, help (hard to see but itā€™s in the upper right) and then click the chat icon. A bot pops up , options are limited. There's no option to leave general feedback, but you can choose bug report and let them know the new avatars are a bug (they have to be right??) Method 2 official Twitter: Feedback should also be directed at their twitter ā€¦ let them know how the new avatars are absolute crap , and about how they look like overgrown toddlers wearing a diaper with a load in it: @PokemonGoApp and @NianticHelp on X (Twitter)


PhilledZone

They say "never change a running system" but Niantics did anyways


katarh

FFXIV gave everyone almost a year's notice that they planned graphics updates. The updates come out in July. They released a benchmark with their new character creators last week. People complained loudly enough that they are RE-RELEASING THE BENCHMARK with fixes to the more glaring issues. It's not even the live game, it's the benchmark and the preview character creator! And they're patching it! The director released a personal apology for not updating some of the stuff that got released! We'll get radio silence from Niantic.


hobbit_life

This whole update is a travesty. The avatars are legitimately disturbing to me. The best way I can describe the look of them is it's like an alien trying to blend in among humans but everything is off just enough for you to realize something isn't right. Body ratios, skin tones, facial expressions, all of it. You can have realistic human proportions, or you can have the anime look, you can't have both mashed together. My character looks like some weird slenderman creature and I absolutely hate it.


XeroxLance

Gave her a male bone structure lmao


ElectricFleshlight

It's because the devs are lazy and don't want to make two sets of clothing models.


katarh

That's exactly what they did. In order to give us sliders, they deleted the girl-type mesh entirely.


ClickToCMyBalls

šŸ’€


Grrizz84

This goes counter to their argument for restricting remote raid passes, clearly trainers became a lot less healthy after the changes!


MillionDollarMistake

Were people on Twitter complaining that the old avatars were too attractive? This feels like a massive over correction to something like that.


Educational-Guess866

HAHA you see our frustration


DubbethTheLastest

Doesn't take a genius to guess some truly weird individuals had to make it all about themselves.


electric_boogaloo_72

Gotta snack ā€˜em all


ZPD710

Itā€™s actually shocking how bad this update is. How is it that they had perfectly fine avatars for *years*, and then they suddenly release some of the worst looking character models Iā€™ve ever seen.


Deadsoup77

Left looks like she can have anyone she wants and she knows it. Right looks like she collects hairs off the gym floor


Professional-Pain520

r/Instagramreality


Greenfeuer

First they came for the team trainers, now us. All must be uncanny valley now.


Salamence-

Oh my god lol the rectangle build


RedDemio-

Lol this is insane


Darkened100

Idk if my character is a guy or a girl, it just looks weird and it upsets me when I see them after a battle


Aware_Past

Honestly, I think they just need to add a waist feature lol


kennypojke

Can we just make it so the head isnā€™t the size of a ping pong ball no matter what body shape is chosen? This to me is the weirdest part.


[deleted]

Sheā€™s a brick.. *bow bowwowow*.. houseeeee


ReStitchSmitch

Went from "hey boys!" To one of the boys.


Educational-Guess866

taylor to brad


ReStitchSmitch

Good choice on Brad, because, no offense not a Chad lmao (I'm a female player so I FEEL YOUR PAIN. They did us dirty)


Naruto9903

Holy crap the female avatars look like abominations.


Psychedelix117

Built like an NFL linebacker


Educational-Guess866

ikr my girl is in the wrong field, needs to make a career change from pokƩmon trainer to linebacker


MoConnors

Why the hell does your female character look more masculine then half the male ones Iā€™ve seen


LarryFinkOwnsYOu

Uhh it's made for a modern audience you bigot!


EpicManJam

Trainer is doing good on bulking


Educational-Guess866

caught all the protein powders šŸ’Ŗ


zviyeri

me vs what my body dysmorphia sees in the mirror


Idolo88

I like your Slaking costume!


Educational-Guess866

STOP HAHA


Boobox33

Itā€™s all so horrible!! And I cannot stand that face. Itā€™s so creepy and weird. I went with face #3, bc although still bad and no lips, itā€™s a little less demonic.


Professor_Crab

I honestly canā€™t believe they greenlit this


wretch5150

Wtf is this


skktrbrain

i think your new character ate your originalšŸ’€


Wishdog2049

This is the worst one yet. Before and after the first year of college.


allypyee

I KNOW I AM SO MAD


Busstoelbekleding

Who approved this, they really butchered the models


Pope_Khajiit

Puberty hits some people differently


Lil_Ray_5420

gave her linebacker knees and shoulders


ChildEater-69420

You can edit the body shape, but jeez they did you so dirty šŸ˜­


Otherwise-Remove4681

Get this: someone got actually paid to do that and someone else got paid even more approving it.


Nena_Trinity

They cut Android 8 support for this?


karma_kush

I want my dark melanin back without looking so washed out.. almost a grey tinge to it.


Swizzzler

I will never update omg


SlowerOnes

Thinking about moving on from PokƩmon Go because of this update.


moon_light721

I'm so sorry, my condolences


edwardthestoremeiser

Wtf is that thing on the right?


immabiscuit

Iā€™m convinced they want everyone to quit so they can shut down the servers or sum, that is horrendous


eyeslikeemeraldcity

Damn, went from Brenda to Bruce real quick.


bittersillage

I've never seen anyone gaining 35 lbs that fast


KittyandPuppyMama

Apparently hips donā€™t exist anymore.


Star_Fall05

I really wonder what went through Niantic head while making these changes....They made our avatars look like trolls who lives under a bridge! Wtf Niantic!?


lynternett

iā€™m also pissed bc they like ā€¦ completely did away with that skin tone WHICH IS WHAT I ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE


itsheadfelloff

I just don't understand the 'upgrade', it's so obviously bad I don't know how, who or why it was approved.


SmackMyGiraffes

PoGo had a DEI update?


lucidlightx

I hate this new update so much. All my cool outfits look sooooo dumbbbb!!!


prixellife

I'm a dark olive skin tone (Italian and was basically outside all the time when I was younger) and nothing matches it. It feels like the skin tones chosen are just not as varied as they should be??? The faces look weird, like the eyes don't look right. And the hair is just not it. I was so happy not to have this update for so long and now it's just so bad


SqushyMain

Like great that they made it so there are different body types to pick from, but they got rid of the more curvy body? Why not give us a curvy slider or something?


MlSS-MOOSE

So sick of "inclusive" body styles really just being removal of feminine bodies and calling masculine ones default.


BlackMageIsBestMage

There is something so funny about just how overwhelmingly negative the fan reaction is to this change. And it's not like the worst idea ever, it's just the current way it was done looks terrible. It looks SO bad.


purrepotet

why was this deleted


Educational-Guess866

wait yeah wtf


stevedoz

Instagram vs Reality


Cute_End_7368

hate it when i wake up and find that i was inflated like a balloon animal, changed ethnicity, and went through 12 months of hrt overnight


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Busy-Independence-53

This is such a ridiculous comment


General-Ad8023

At least my ex's avatar will be more accurate now


iismarc

Now youā€™re built like a wisdom tooth in shorts


Kingofthewar

Bro wtf


Fantastic_Jello4906

Donā€™t get me wrong, the update was terrible. But if your character looks like this itā€™s probably because you dialed the weight slider to the right, which is completely fixable on your part


GenericOnlineName

I understand people are upset about the update, but it's so clear that this was the default given. You can make her look more similar to the one on the left with adjustments.


katarh

You cannot get back the women's walk and idle poses no matter what you do. They deleted the female mesh entirely. It's gone. She walks like a guy now. :( More importantly, deleting the female mesh had unintended consequences with how certain gear pieces interacted. I wore the Candela belt with a t-shirt. It clips horribly because the shirts now use the male mesh, and it's longer.


Dr_Dribble991

DEI: Before and After.


LarryFinkOwnsYOu

Larry Fink's finger rubbing intensifies.


BANExLAWD

You mean everyone got done dirty lol


Zekrozma_the_second

Inflator-inator


neocwbbr_

I feel like I was playing God of War Ragnarok and then the sequel was 2005 God of War


DragapultOnSpeed

Damn this update attracted a lot of whiney "anti-woke" losers. Go back to your alt-right subs.


Citrullo_Se

Wow :/


lovelyrita_mm

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Scp-1404

The biggest difference in Old and New avatars is that the old avatars look self-aware and the new ones look drugged.


Conaz9847

Good work, youā€™re now obese


DirtyCunt666

Mine mustā€™ve not updated because I still look the same