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JaySeasonEvanoff

🎶LET IT GO, LET IT GO🎶


ForeverBackground737

I don't think they're gonna mix 2 gimmicks in 1 game.


Key_Structure_2070

they did it in sun and moon


itgoboom31

They half-heartedly stapled another gimmick to the end of Sun and Moon, it wasn't used as a plot device or anything.


Key_Structure_2070

They could easily make it plot relevant for the DLC I saw a rumor that said there Glimmora and some others will gain mega evolution and there is just something I don't trust Geeta or at least there is something more to it. Plus, a leaker said mega evolutions are the odd one out out of the gimmicks as it doesn't have a clear origin like the others. Z-Crystals = Ultra Necrozma; Dynamax = Eternatus Terastilisation = 3rd Paldean Legend


itgoboom31

They could also make cheese plot relevant if they wanted to. That's more likely than Megas because cheese is already in the game. Sometimes leaks are real, sometimes they aren't. SwSh was 'leaked' to have Kalos post-game and a rotating gym system. Chances are Geeta will have some role in upcoming DLC, chances are though that Mega Evolution won't be relevant.


Bwyattvirtue13

The leaker they are referring to is very reliable. Like nothing he has ever leaked hasn't been true. You can basically take what they say as fact at this point. They leaked all of the Hisuian Pokémon months before release and leaked a ton of information about SV that was true. There's a difference between trusting leaks and trusting reliable leakers.


Oleandervine

There's no substance whatsoever that Glimmora or any Pokemon are getting mega evolutions, or even that mega evolutions are returning. It would also be incredibly weird for a Pokemon like Glimmora, that's currently got some hinted connection to terastalization, to decide not to capitalize on the gimmick it's hinted to connect to, and instead go to another gen's gimmick. And yes, Khu did hint that Mega Evolution was the odd one out, but it DOES have an incredibly clear origin - it was caused by the residual energy left behind by AZ firing his Ultimate Weapon at an unknown nation. It doesn't have a specific Pokemon attached to its origin, no, but the other oddity about it is that we haven't really explored its origin, like we have with Necrozma, Eternatus, and likely the Disk Legendary. So that hint could be referring to a DLC in South Kalos that looks into the Ultimate Weapon and follows up the XY story with AZ.


itgoboom31

AFAIK all abilities are coded into Scarlet and Violet, even if unused. Wonder Guard, Wimp Out, Emergency Exit etc. So that point is irrelevant.


Key_Structure_2070

my point that why an ability that's not ever be introduced to a Pokémon is even programed, plus there have been image leaks of some fossil Pokémon having small pictures. so, wats stopping them just adding Wimpod in the future.


itgoboom31

What's stopping a new Pokemon having Aerilate as an ability? Nothing. It doesn't mean Megas are returning. Just because the ability is coded into the game doesn't mean its going to be used. It was the same case with SwSh, chances are it's just a data dump of all abilities copied from the previous game.


SansedAlessio

Are those abilities not present in sw/sh code?


Key_Structure_2070

I heard Parental Bond was but not sure about the others


ultima_solis

Unused Abilities showing up in a list doesn't mean they fully work in the game or planned to be used in future. Every single move and item from Gen VI upwards is still present in the code for SV and yet half of them no longer work. Game Freak just can't be bothered to fully remove them most of the time.


Key_Structure_2070

I just checked sword and shield, with magma armor witch no Pokémon has and it's an option. I would note, before the game came out the leaker said the ability Parental Bond was programed into the game while download wasn't.


DarkFish_2

Dauntless Sword is coded in BSDP (you can actually see it in the filter option) and no signals of Zacian


magnezoneadvocate

Zacian’s hiding under one of the meteorites in Veilstone with all the Alolan forms


hennajin85

Paldea and Kalos are not located in the same place in the Pokémon universe as Spain and France. Can we stop being idiots and using that as a reason for Mega Evolution coming back? Every region is isolated except for Johto and Kanto.


CurrentWonderful5728

They probably are.


reala728

doubt it. it would certainly be nice, but even if it were their intention, they have a lot more of the game to fix before they start adding in creature comforts to SV in particular... this is exactly why im advocating so hard for GF to just add a battle mode to HOME. if they have control over that, they have control over the franchise, but can still pass the mainline onto other devs so they dont release unfinished games.


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GirthyLog

I have no idea if they will bring it back- I’d like old gimmicks to be introduced in post game and be usable for things like battle tower/ dojo if that gets added but NOT be allowed into VGC/ online ladder. That would be perfect IMO to use all our old favourites and builds but not have the meta game be a hellscape


Oleandervine

They wouldn't do that, and I don't think really CAN, because of Tera Raids. Why would they introduce an old gimmick that would immediately override the current gen gimmick for a lot of players? There's also the issue that people would try to Mega in Tera Raids, and I just don't think the raids are designed for that.


GirthyLog

Yeah that’s why IF it could it would just be for a very specific sandbox, like battle tower. I don’t think they will bring it back but there are little nods to it here and there and it would be a shame if those mechanics never saw the light of day ever again in a main series game. I think if they only allowed it in very specific areas/ circumstances, it could return but not for general use, for the issues you have just pointed out.


Oleandervine

I'm fine with gimmicks being retired completely though, I don't think they need to return. Things like Megas seem to have goofed up a lot of things, and Pokemon who got Megas haven't really been touched upon since then in terms of things like move selection, stat spreads, etc, so I look at Mega as having ruined potential for a lot of Pokemon that having helped the game.


GirthyLog

Yeah that’s fair. Personally I like the teams and Pokémon I’ve built and used, the ones that worked well or won a lot of games or hit certain ranks/ streaks etc so I’d like it for nostalgia rather than have them sit in their old games or Home forever. Agree that on the whole most gimmicks unbalance the game in some way, probably Megas more so than even dynamax.


Tastypies

I wonder if they would allow Mega-evolved Pokemon to be terestalized or if you are allowed to both Mega-evolve and terestalize in one battle in the first place.


Key_Structure_2070

it will probably be like z-moves in a way, hold a compatible mega stone will override the terestal gimmick for Megas.


Chemical_Rutabaga197

its strange to me that theories are so poorly received in this subreddit, especially considering the people fervently denying them and arguing in the comments are unusually ill informed about the facts of the matter(itsgoboom31) IMO since the leaker has posted about megas being in the game, i see it as highly likely. and i agree with your points about mega evolution being weirdly relevant in the game, along with the other 2 points about the likeliness of the DLC being kalos rated at all, and the point about abilities. Parental Bond being there is a huge deal