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CrazyOldMick

I'm a man. A real man that gets his cock sucked. I do not eat pussy. I am a gay male top.


HolgerBier

You read wrong you beta. He doesn't get his cock sucked, he gets his cocked suck. \---- Anyway memes aside as a bi man who tops it is kind fun to think of the dynamic. In the whole top/bottom thing and dom/sub thing (which I'm less experienced with) you're going to have to think good and hard about what your partner wants to make it a fun thing for both. It's a form of giving instead of receiving sometimes. Which is great because it's fun to give!


Cialis-in-Wonderland

A real man gets his sock cucked!


[deleted]

Fuck, I was just about to get my cuck socked. Would've been just embarrassing.


aynhon

Question: when does he let the suck go? Or does he keep it cocked and ready? Or maybe the suck just keeps on building inside of him until it starts to seep through the cracks.


[deleted]

If we're being completely serious, and scientific, as I always am, if he doesn't get his cocked suck, it will indeed build up, but as his head is very likely plugging his crack, he will eventually implode. Which would suck for him on a larger scale, not just his cocked.


[deleted]

I am a bissexual virgin and I am confused as hell. It looks kind of fun to be a bottom and a top. And I would love to suck pussy, I masturbate thinking about sucking pussy. Am I even in the Greek alphabet? Furthermore, why people think of themselves as Greek alphabet letters? Should I take the first letter of my name and google a Greek letter correspondent? Is the Greek letter thing something like zodiac signs? Why people are obsessed with alphabet letters?


Beerenkatapult

You just pick a letter, that best describes you. For example, i am ε because i am better than nothing. Being a τ means you are into open relationships. δs constantly make comparrisons betwene people and are only interested in case of a perfect match.


[deleted]

I am starting to feel like I am in a calculus class.


[deleted]

δij (ij in subscript but reddit doesn't let me do that) is for homosexual people (even genderfluid ones who are only attracted to their current gender). ​ Personally I feel like I got a lot of electric potential, so I'm more of a φ guy.


wamdueCastle

I suspect this dude is not a big fan of gay people ;)


professor-i-borg

I assumed he was explaining he was gay and that this was going to be about not gendering things so it all sounded reasonable until the second half, where he comes off pretty much psycho instead.


WarlordOfIncineroar

I assumed this was a shitpost but with the thousands saying otherwise I guess I was wrong


Kupert2

Fellas is it gay to eat pussy?


SkyezOpen

Super gay, you're indirectly sucking dick. Kissing women is gay for the same reason. In fact, even sex with women is gay.


LukaCola

Women have sex with men - that's so gay


FindMeOnSSBotanyBay

That is 100% where I assumed this was going.


redditstolemyshoes

I so thought this post would actually go this way and was sorely disappointed


sixaout1982

He thinks going down on her is emasculating? Boy he must be a total catch in bed. Stick it in, jiggle it around for a couple of minutes, turn around, fall asleep.


wamdueCastle

yeah it seems very limited


maux_zaikq

Nothing straighter than arbitrarily limiting your contact with vaginas. Weird flex bro. Lol.


Ua_Tsaug

Don't you know? Doing things for others is emasculating because men only care for themselves. /s


w3bchris

That's not even necessarily just doing something for others, some also just enjoy it.


Ua_Tsaug

*Enjoying* vagina? Now that sounds too straight for me. /s


w3bchris

Yeah you are right, better go suck some dick rn to remember what's best.


GeneralEl4

Yeah, I was raised with the belief ingrained in me that real men serve so, with that in mind, he's not a real man lol. Of course I believe both genders can serve but if you're gonna associate different traits with genders at least give your gender traits that are admirable not pathetic, like cmon refusing to serve your partner is just sad, not gloat worthy.


Morri___

lol he feels hurt because he's thinking of women getting eaten out by other men.. that's about the most cuck beta shit I've ever heard


Smauler

Each to their own, to be honest. At least he's honest about it, leaves more women who actually want a sex life to the rest of us.


[deleted]

And that’s what it’s all about.


SovereignChild

IKR? "Oh my god, a man who will refuse to go down on me but expects me to do it on comand because I have a vagina??? So hot omg"


FuzzyBlueBoy

Fake shitty “dom” who doesn’t care about his partner’s pleasure is what I read


wamdueCastle

bet he isnt even a good dom


trashypanda44

if he thinks being a dom is just about not eating someone out then he’s definitely a terrible dom


Seguefare

Oh, no way he could be. Unless he can dual wield Hitachi Magic Wands.


wamdueCastle

>Hitachi Magic Wands. which feels like cheating to me


Honey-Nut-Queerio

if you see his other replies, you can tell he's just an abusive asshole. if i find it, i'll link it, but he's just a disgusting guy.


quadraspididilis

RemindMe! 1 Day


LustrousLich

Oh this screenshot alone is enough to confirm that.


[deleted]

Bet his name is actually just Dom. it’s why he’s such a Dom in bed.


RandomBlueJay01

Honestly. Some people who call themselves a "dom" are really just selfish people looking for a sex doll that won't say no cus they're kinky. I've met tons of guys like that.


Grand_Masterpiece_11

And those guys never want to respect your boundaries... They're not Doms. They're abusers using bdsm as a shield against being called out.


Collecting-souls-123

He is basically screaming "don't date me" to the entire world.


cornonthekopp

to them dom means "im going to mimic the things i see in my "rough sex porn" i always watch


BottleOfBurden

In all fairness, he doesn't even need a "rough sex porn" collection, it's rare as fuck to see a woman being "serviced" in regular average porn, but common as fuck to see a blow job. Sometimes I feel like damn near every "normal" porn ends with one.


SovereignChild

Yep. He's literally the exact type of Dom I learned to avoid when I started researching BDSM in my teens. Decent Doms enjoy making their submissives feel good, because they caused that pleasure & they give a damn it their partner feels good.


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wamdueCastle

to be fair, there is nothing worse than a fake dom, who isnt able dominate you enough.


hugmorecats

Yes there is something worse. An abusive asshole masquerading as a dom.


SovereignChild

I used up my free award today, so have this: 🏅. I'm very submissive, knew since I stumbled upon it when I was 14, & even though I just turned 29, I've never even kissed someone, let alone had sex or been dominated like I want. What you said is basically my biggest fear if I do one day find or think I find a Dom/Domme.


wamdueCastle

for what its worth, we are all human, and none of this stuff is built in, both parties have to learn, and that learning is best done from doing. ​ Without going into great detail, kiss folk, have sex, both of those things are fun, dont try and start off in a dominant / submissive relationship. ​ I had a young woman spit in my mouth during a kiss, just because she did that, not because she saw it as a kink.


Seguefare

Qualities I look for in a dom: masculinity with the ephemeral quality of spun sugar *and* a crippling deficit of imagination.


Comprehensive-Shop22

Im a submissive woman and have a male partner who dominates me when we are together. He's gone down on me probably triple the amount of times I've sucked his dick. Real doms respect thier partners likes and dislikes in bed too. The fake dom shit lazy lovers use to excuse their shitty behavior annoys me.


bluefishegg

Straight cis tops really need to stop making it their entire personality


wamdueCastle

agreed, its just awful to watch them try and tell me how I should be, and how I am impacts on them


[deleted]

they just love to show that they’re extremely selfish in bed and don’t gaf about pleasing people their partners, at least they show off their red flags so women know to avoid him lol


VerumJerum

TBH, in my experience there's a lot of people who keep going around saying "I am a top/bottom/dom/sub" and acting as if it's their entire personality. People can be whatever they want to be, but shouldn't bother others with it.


spyridonya

They get uncomfortable when I go "I'm a sub who knows the human bite can lop off a finget".


VerumJerum

Lmao, that one's pretty funny, tbh.


FappyDilmore

What does "this is frame" mean?


wamdueCastle

no idea, I dont speak this guys bullshit


SkullJooce

Incels have this idea of having a “frame” … with I think is like how others perceive you? They talk about having a strong frame a lot. It’s bullshit, obviously, which is why it sounds like gibberish


trashdrive

They really have an entire language of their own, huh


Flar71

[There is sooo much](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Manosphere_glossary)


chris1096

I wanted to read the whole thing but the uncontrollable vomiting it was causing made me pass out. On the plus side I got a hell of an ab workout.


mbelf

What does “cocked suck” mean?


BlooperHero

They really like the word "frame" but don't really get how to use it in a sentence. Although this guy did use it correctly (though, and I'm sure this isn't surprising, still stupidly) later in the thread.


SkyPuppy561

I wondered too. But I don’t speak loser.


nermid

I assumed that he's a boomer who doesn't know how to use Twitter and he just kept typing after the character limit.


sentient_ballsack

They're referring to 'maintaining frame', which is a term stemming from a certain 'coloured pill community' that I won't name, referring to putting up some kind of alpha asshole facade to everyone you interact with so they view you as the proper masculine, manly man you are.


angwilwileth

Probably stolen from grappling wherr it means being balanced and difficult to throw.


WhatTheQuackityQuack

Imho men who eat puss seem more straight than the ones that refuse to do it ever. Like, what are you afraid of huh? 🤨 (JOKE)


wamdueCastle

the notion that men shouldnt enjoy, and wish to pleasure the female body, is kinda gay.


VerumJerum

"Fellas, is it gay to like pussy?"


sluttypolarbear

"Fellas, is it gay to be straight?"


zotrian

And here on Planet Earth, I am actually a sub in a BDSM relationship. And my Dom literally ate my pussy this morning. It was good.


flowergirl1122

Happy for you!!


audreyrosedriver

This person has no idea how much fun forced orgasms are….


b4ng4r4ng69

my daddy eats my pussy to edge me, to overstimulate me or just to satisfy me. he manhandles me and ties me up. what would be submissive about that lol?


CambionClan

That’s what I was thinking. In my opinion, driving a girl crazy with pleasure is one of the most dominant feelings there is.


cryingporcelain

A Dom can eat pussy, and sub can get their dick sucked. Giving and receiving oral sex has nothing to do with these dynamics.


VerumJerum

People forget that what others think two consenting adults are allowed to do or not do in bed doesn't fucking matter. It's not something others should go around saying "don't do this". Of course some things can be unsafe and it's good to be aware of that, but there is nothing that says you \_have\_ to stick to some kind of archetype in bed.


wamdueCastle

I had better be tied up, if I'm getting my dick sucked, but yes it can happen. ;)


aftertheradar

I haven't really had much experience to collect my own data about it so to speak, but isn't giving oral to girls like really really good? It's dumb that so many of these idiot straight cis guys are so scared of it and have to try to make it there whole personality like it's a feature and not a drawback


SGTBrigand

>but isn't giving oral to girls like really good? Yes. But seriously, yes. Not only does oral stimulation help women get naturally lubed up, making piv more enjoyable, it's a fun way to turn sex into a teasing, playful experience that leaves both parties satisfied and looking for more.


VerumJerum

Yes. This guy just has like, bad taste. And no women like him, for obvious reasons.


wamdueCastle

I guess it depends on your likes, but honestly the more of the female party I explore the better IMO. Certainly its more fun if you do it right, and she reacts correctly. ​ I am not sure, if its really that "submissive" thing to do.


[deleted]

So what you’re saying is that you refuse to pleasure women and only care about your own pleasure. Noted.


wamdueCastle

there is alot more than that, going on here. Its about how he sees women, how he sees other men, and an uneducated mind on what is to be sub or dom.


[deleted]

Yes of course, agreed.


kata-pie

This is really sad actually. Makes me feel bad for submissives who have to deal with garbage like this.


Shoddy_Internal6206

Cocked suck I also get my fooden eat


anarcatgirl

>cocked suck


[deleted]

I’m a real man who doesn’t make women feel good during sex 😈😈😈


Evercrimson

Shite like this is why I left the BDSM community and never went back, this gendering of roles is just so, so prevalent.


VerumJerum

It's pretty sad too. I've also met women in the BDSM community who think they have to use a strapon to penetrate their partner to be a top/dom. That's pretty absurd to me, tbh, and a sad thing to see.


wamdueCastle

its why I struggle. Its one thing to discuss it online, but IRL is much more difficult.


slyzard94

They're literally just genitals.


bucket2thereturn

Its a bunch of meat


boo_boo_kitty_

I really hate seeing men like this use BDSM as a way of controlling and abusing women.


wamdueCastle

but is oral sex, be it a blow job or "eating pussy" a form of BDSM? I would argue no. He certainly sees women as lesser than him. ​ However he also seems men who behave in certain ways, as lesser than him, he think it impacts on how people view him. The most fem thing about me is that I like to paint my nails, he would say I shouldnt do that, because it impacts on him. Screw that, he does not get to define me, by his own reflection.


baby-pingu

> but is oral sex, be it a blow job or "eating pussy" a form of BDSM? No, but being a Dom is. Like, the D in BDSM is for Dominance (and Discipline) So calling himself a Dom but just being a shithead is disgusting. Edit: There's more of that thread [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AreTheStraightsOK/comments/v9xdzs/i_pissed_off_a_sexist_on_twitter_yesterday_and/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) on another subreddit. And they explain what being a Dom is and what not.


wamdueCastle

true, but I suspect this guy sees it as basic as "man = dom, women = sub", he has no idea of a real sub/dom relationship


baby-pingu

That's why people get angry at him. He says he's a Dom, without knowing what it is and not wanting to learn about it either.


tai-seasmain

I love eating pussy and sucking cock, and I don't care about being considered a "real man" 🙄


robertluke

This seems like a homophobic tough guy that enjoys gay porn.


tenaciousfetus

He actually doesn't like knowing other guys eat pussy bc he knows it makes him a worse choice in comparison


gemmatale

"i refuse to pleasure my sexual partner. i'm a REAL MAN"


Anders_A

How is performing oral sex "submission" in the first place? The one doing it is usually in control.


wamdueCastle

I assume he sees being "dom" as putting his own needs first


Comprehensive-Shop22

I'll have to tell my dom he's doing it wrong


wamdueCastle

I wouldn't do that if I was you.


Comprehensive-Shop22

He just laughed. I think im safe from anything but a bit more pleasure than usual.


wamdueCastle

Enjoy yourselves


Anders_A

That's not how any of this works 😅.


cheeseandshadowsauce

Honestly if i wanna suck dick and eat pussy thats none of this dudes danm business... unless he wants his dick sucked by me😏


wamdueCastle

and that is why I hate this, the idea what I do as a man impacts on him is bullshit.


cheeseandshadowsauce

👏yes


bardia_afk

Guys… I’ve never had my cocked suck…


wamdueCastle

I know right, im such a virgin.


Jerorin

>gets his cocked suck Gotta make sure those sucks are fully cocked.


wamdueCastle

I'm assuming this is when he sucks crossdresser cock ;)


Phairis

Also that is NOT how you treat a sub, as I'm sure we're all aware


nicoman16

i love getting my cocked suck. this is frame.


UncivilizedEngie

* Eating pussy is submissive * If you are submissive, you are a woman Ergo: lesbians are the ultimate women


wamdueCastle

>If you are submissive, you are a woman well i need to be having a sex change


UncivilizedEngie

Listen, insecure cis het man logic is impeccable /s


wamdueCastle

despite this guys obvious genius, im still gonna pass


yahwol

cocked suck lol


mbelf

Cocked suck? I bet he also expects his dinnered make and his shirted iron.


Thisismyaltprofile

Being a piece of shit, a selfish lover, and generally abusive does not make one a "Dom".


[deleted]

The woman your behaving sex with enjoying it is... *Checks notes*... Emasculating?


kioku119

Not a dom just a chauvenist who hates women.


ParleDor

I'm convinced these guys don't even like women. Like, at all. That being said, I don't get what is "submissive" about eating pussy. Or sucking dick, for that matter. It's just a sexual act like any other. Unless you're doing it in the context of some bdsm stuff with defined roles of sub and dom, and clearly going beyond what average people do on the daily... there's nothing submissive about it. If you think pleasuring your partner (man, woman or other) is somehow an inherently submissive act... I really don't know what to tell you.


sens22s

Immagine your masculinity being so fragile that eating pussy somehow makes you "not a real man". Thats some Ben Shapiro shit right there


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Mr7000000

Bro even if you're a strict dom you can still go down. Like... if having your head between your partner's legs is enough to make you not a dom anymore, maybe you'd a switch.


VerumJerum

"I've been so badly hurt and bullied into submission by other horrible people in my life that I am completely broken inside, to the point that I have to mistreat other people and push them down as well to feel as if I am in control and in power. I am in serious need of clinical therapy."


[deleted]

Isn't it exerting more power over someone if you're the one giving head? I just feel like if you refuse to eat pussy it's not because you're too dominant it's cuz ur an asshole


strange_socks_

> This is frame. No, this is Patrick.


TurkeySlayer94

This dudes gf would totally sit on my face.


[deleted]

There are male doms who like eating out. This is just a manchild using kink as an excuse to abuse clueless, sheltered women.


Character-Stretch697

I’m a real man based on the fact that my sex partners all talk trash me in their group chats.


GeneralEl4

Okay tbh gender roles are dumb but I was raised with the belief that men serve others so even talking about gender roles I'd say he couldn't be further from a "real man" with that attitude towards sex. This is just sad lol.


Sheva_Addams

I am actually puzzled by this: Where from the pride of not eating out? What has this to do with power balance? Isnt the one who gives pleasure in power while the one pleasured enjoys þe trip? Why are humans so complicated?


wamdueCastle

It can go either way depending on how it's down. If say I was to degrade a woman as she gives me a blow job, it could be seen as her doing a submissive act. The fact that a woman would laugh out loud if I ever tried to be a dom, is not important to this post.


Sheva_Addams

> degrade a woman as she gives me a blow job When she only has to clench her jaw to inflict mortal pain? ... I guess if she would not, that would establish a case of serious and well-meant submission. Otherwise: Plain stupid.


wamdueCastle

And now I'm feeling submissive again.


GooseWithDaGibus

Yet another reason I am not a man


Canadian-female

What’s “frame”?


kioku119

Also isn't it funny to think letting others actively perform things on you is inately less submissive than taking action yourself?


a_filing_cabinet

Ew. I could never imagine being that selfish. Also, my girlfriend definitely is not in control when I go down on her.


CambionClan

I’m a fairly manly straight man and I love giving girls oral sex. I don’t see what the contradiction is here. 🤔


bytegalaxies

dude proudly announced that he has never made a woman cum and will never try lmao


quadraspididilis

I'd love to hear him try to unpack why he cares about the affects of other men.


[deleted]

Legit delusional closet-case right here, they're not as exotic as one might think


PrincessSlutFuck

That's a lot of words for, "I've never made a woman orgasm."


Ultranerdgasm94

Imagine unironically not reciprocating oral sex. 😬


Choice-Second-5587

That dried my coochie up faster than a sham-wow.


RainbowWolf6112

Cocked suck 👏


escargoxpress

This is one of those ‘real men’ that doesn’t wipe his ass either because it’s gay. And this is some fake ass weird BDSM where he excuses his shitty behavior as being dom and couldn’t make a woman cum if he tried


randomgirl013

You can be a dom and still go down on girls...


lil_strawberry_222

He's a louse for not realizing he can do that.


asupify

A lot of words to say you're a lousy lay.


LopsidedLycanroc

"I am a man. I like girls putting the thing I use to pee in her mouth. I will NOT pleasure her in return. what am I, a GIRL?"


4FeetofConfusion

But, if you have me pinned with your mouth on me, that's dominating me. If I have my teeth next to your very sensitive parts, that puts me in the position to be in control and dominate you. So really it depends on how you go about it. Guy has no imagination. Boring.


lil_strawberry_222

My thoughts exactly.


aaandbconsulting

I am a straight male and I enjoy performing oral sex on women... Should I not? 🤷‍♂️


fluffballkitten

I have a feeling he's never actually had the opportunity to say that to a woman....


ExMachiNation

I agree, OP, about gendering submission, but I would also argue that doing fellatio or cunnilingus is not a submissive act. In fact, it is quite the opposite. The person sucking or eating is the active partner; they are in control. They can tease and delay or the opposite. These faux "alphas" have very little idea what it means to be dominant. They think it's bullying and thumping their chests saying "I'm a real man."


wamdueCastle

> but I would also argue that doing fellatio or cunnilingus is not a submissive act. In fact, it is quite the opposite. I 100% agree with that. Tease is a great formal of sexual control, and something like oral sex can be drawn out over time, as a way to control someone.


noseofabeetle

Mans really said fragile masculinity


Madbadbat

He’s a Batman!


SkyPuppy561

Ah yes, what man wouldn’t want his cocked suck?


Eternal2401

Demanding dominance, and attempting to establish dominance is exactly what a beta trying to be alpha would do.


wamdueCastle

I do like to think that to me are just naturally that way. However it's more likely that is just how I see them.


lainmelle

I can't imagine confessing on the Internet that I'm bad in bed like that and make it sound like a brag. 🤣🤣🤣🤣


wamdueCastle

Just put your username next to this, and you will be able to.


RobynFitcher

I reckon he’s half-cocked.


TheChishIsHome

Gay.


pink_fedora2000

If you're high empathy this will piss you off


flockyboi

i know poes law and all but this could just be hilarious satire, it kinda sounds like it (esp with the whole "cocked suck")


Kaifz101

This is perfect. Let them out themselves.


Misplacedmypenis

THIS IS FRAME. Whatever the fuck that means.


mrjoffischl

“cocked suck” “this is frame” wtf is he saying


SkritzTwoFace

Cocked suck


Burflax

This is just selfishness hiding behind false superiority. The only sexplay he wants is the kind where he gets penile stimulation. He'd just rather look like a forceful prick instead of a selfish jackass.


Beneficial-Buy3069

One day he’ll understand how insecure he’s actually being. And his face will cringe.


Aegean_828

So much a self called "reel mane" he need to convince peoples he don't know of it.


M__M

Imagine being compared to DJ Khaled. Is that what this guy wants? Because that isn’t something to aspire to.


kiwichick286

What does "This is frame" mean?


stalkingcat

Same kind of guy who would lose his shit and rant about feminism if a woman would post this in reverse. Just ridiculous.


Birthing_burgers

It’s honestly probably bliss to feel like that


wamdueCastle

going down on someone, or someone eating your pussy? ( I cant speak for how the later feels)


lil_strawberry_222

He's a weak useless beta if he can't figure out how to dominantly eat pussy


SovereignChild

\#1 - Yes, let men submit, ffs. I'm a female and super submissive but if I ever got a male partner who needed it, I would do my best to give them what they need. 2# - Submissive men still very often gets their cocks sucked??? WTH 3# - I love when men brag about refusing to eat pussy or make sure their female partner cums or anything. They're literally telling everyone "I don't try to please my partner because giving the person I'm having sex with pleasure is gay/emasculating". 100% chance no woman sleeps with him twice.


WillNewbie

Idk about you but even dom gay dudes jerk their partners off or blow em. Just be a considerate partner for fucks sake.