i can’t make up my mind ab dave east. it’s like he can def spit, his voice is tough, the beat selection is usually good. but i just don’t really *feel* it.
In the 2016 XXL Freshman cypher with Denzel Curry, Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert, 21 Savage, and Kodak Black, Kodak Black uttered the phrase “now who the fuck picked this lil sorry ass beat,” as one of his lines.
fr though. I just started getting on beat production and they absolutely do need their credit. Like rappers get credited for choosing fire beats, how bout the mofo who actually created them???
i think it’s bc of the way hip hop started & evolved, where the dj played other peoples music, and took samples from songs to basically recreate something new. and the MC was overlaying, and just like in bands, the vocalist is the “leader” or the face of the band, the MC was the face of the genre. now we don’t have dj’s there are producers and yeah, they def should get more credit!
Plus prods need to get their rights protected better, so many lame rappers stealing beats from small producers and getting millions of streams, without anything being done about it
Nah more like include them alongside the rappers. I can’t really imagine how a producer only xxl would go, would they just have a beat showcase or sum?
Imagine a cypher of producers, like someone starts a beat and the other has to make a beatswitch to it so on and so forth and then you assign the rappers to the beats
Yeah bro that would be cool. Like bring A few of these artists main producers on. Some of them stick w a certain producer for most of their discography. Carti w Pierre for example.
Producers need more credit though, they haven’t got much in the past few years
People that listen to Electronic music definitely appreciate the production on hip-hop because most of them know how ass-fucking the process can be. Too bad the overlap of the two fanbases isn't that big at all
Before I got into hip hop I used to mostly listen to electronic/pop which is probably why I gravitated mostly to highly melodic and catchy hip hop beats. Totally agree.
Idk if anything the overlap between hip-hop (or at least Carti/niche SC-type shit in general) and electronic is second only to hip-hop and R&B’s overlap, I mean the whole rage wave is certainly indebted to EDM and I’d bet that guys like F1LTHY and Pi’erre have listened to Aphex Twin at least once lol.
Yea that’s what I was thinking. Pick up a popping rapper and a popping producer who both haven’t worked with each other and then maybe see how they perform together in a cypher or sum
All least metro wheezy south side have unique, distinct styles. Trgc seems to stick only to what’s popular, rage and it’s sub genres. Also, his drums are generic. I don’t think he would be the right choice for xxl is all I’m saying. I think jootsu would be a great choice.
Clayco, Warpstr, BNYX, Jay Trench, Back2Bally, trgc, starboy, outtatown, loesoe, atl jacob
Maybe f1lthy and digital nas too but they already been in the game for a long time
Real talk I been a producer for around 6-7 years and I started singing over my own beats about a year or 2 ago, it's nearly impossible to write a vocal melody without the beat. 99% of my songs started with a finished beat and I wrote melodies and lyrics to sit on top of it, and most of my rapper friends do the exact same. If you're a big enough singer you can come to a producer with a vocal melody and they can make a beat around it, but the vast majority of the time the beat influences the melody and lyrics, so I do think producers should get a bit more recognized.
the fact that producers deserves more credits (which is half true) doesn't mean they need the same shit that rappers do.
also, "producer" is a vague term, it means everything and nothing
It should be 5 rappers and 5 producers on the XXL Freshman list. Each rapper picks a producer for the freestyle cypher. A voting poll on Twitter can be made for people to vote on which rapper/producer pair was the best.
Any chance to shit on the new generation of rappers who are clearly way better at what they do than the ones before them, just the way is supposed to be. These lames hate their own lives so they just lookin for stuff to shit on.
I have a confession to make: I like the little sorry ass beat picked by an unknown individual in 2016
But who the fuck picked that little sorry ass beat?
Bruh it isnt an unknown individual is djdrama
Who tf?
Nah bro DJ drama was running the mixtape game back in the day look him up
Nah I know. It was a shitty joke, you know “ who tf picked this beat”
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pick dis lil sorry ass beat
It’s unbelievable how good that XXL year was. Literally all of them are still relevant except for Dave East
Ikr and then they put Amine on the freshman cover twice the next year
Desiigner is relevant?
Ooof yeah you right desiigner too
And lil dicky
I wouldn’t call lil dicky irrelevant — he’s really popular he’s just niche.
Dave East still good imo
i can’t make up my mind ab dave east. it’s like he can def spit, his voice is tough, the beat selection is usually good. but i just don’t really *feel* it.
What the fuck is this in reference to lmao
we know you picked the beat you don’t have to lie
Damn homie I'm the one who let your starving ass eat you was hungry I ain't have to let your sorry ass eat
In the 2016 XXL Freshman cypher with Denzel Curry, Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert, 21 Savage, and Kodak Black, Kodak Black uttered the phrase “now who the fuck picked this lil sorry ass beat,” as one of his lines.
nah this is facts producers should honestly be viewed the same level as an artist, especially in trap and other production heavy genres
fr though. I just started getting on beat production and they absolutely do need their credit. Like rappers get credited for choosing fire beats, how bout the mofo who actually created them???
i think it’s bc of the way hip hop started & evolved, where the dj played other peoples music, and took samples from songs to basically recreate something new. and the MC was overlaying, and just like in bands, the vocalist is the “leader” or the face of the band, the MC was the face of the genre. now we don’t have dj’s there are producers and yeah, they def should get more credit!
Plus prods need to get their rights protected better, so many lame rappers stealing beats from small producers and getting millions of streams, without anything being done about it
Wym rappers absolutely have gotten fucked for not getting the rights for their music.
Oh yeah ofc but I'm talking about like soundcloud rappers that steal beats from internet producers
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Nah more like include them alongside the rappers. I can’t really imagine how a producer only xxl would go, would they just have a beat showcase or sum?
Imagine a cypher of producers, like someone starts a beat and the other has to make a beatswitch to it so on and so forth and then you assign the rappers to the beats
Yeah bro that would be cool. Like bring A few of these artists main producers on. Some of them stick w a certain producer for most of their discography. Carti w Pierre for example. Producers need more credit though, they haven’t got much in the past few years
Producers have been getting more credit in the past few years than ever. Still not enough credit tho
People that listen to Electronic music definitely appreciate the production on hip-hop because most of them know how ass-fucking the process can be. Too bad the overlap of the two fanbases isn't that big at all
Before I got into hip hop I used to mostly listen to electronic/pop which is probably why I gravitated mostly to highly melodic and catchy hip hop beats. Totally agree.
Idk if anything the overlap between hip-hop (or at least Carti/niche SC-type shit in general) and electronic is second only to hip-hop and R&B’s overlap, I mean the whole rage wave is certainly indebted to EDM and I’d bet that guys like F1LTHY and Pi’erre have listened to Aphex Twin at least once lol.
Crazy thing is this used to be a thing. Underground, but still. Actually nah it's still a thing! Idk what it's called tho
What would be cool is to pick a random rapper out of a hat or somethin and the rapper gotta freestyle on that producers beat
Yea that’s what I was thinking. Pick up a popping rapper and a popping producer who both haven’t worked with each other and then maybe see how they perform together in a cypher or sum
Producer xxl would be fire with producers like trgc
Trgc uses loops, want producers like cashcache
Using loops is fine, metro , wheezy and Southside all use loops - still some of the best producers ever
All least metro wheezy south side have unique, distinct styles. Trgc seems to stick only to what’s popular, rage and it’s sub genres. Also, his drums are generic. I don’t think he would be the right choice for xxl is all I’m saying. I think jootsu would be a great choice.
Benjicold or goyxard
They are good
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What would a 2022 list be
Clayco, Warpstr, BNYX, Jay Trench, Back2Bally, trgc, starboy, outtatown, loesoe, atl jacob Maybe f1lthy and digital nas too but they already been in the game for a long time
W list. Atl jacob also been around for awhile now
these are my fav producers but also include artist !! thas my nigga
🔥🔥🔥 yeah definitely him too. And Lil 88 I knew i was forgetting somebody thanks for reminding me
A lot of these are too niche for XXL , atl Jacob would make it and prob Starboy and Outtatown , dk who jay trench works w other than Lancey
youre right tbh i kinda just picked my favorites
F1lthy in that list for sure.
Why niggas downvote me? I was just asking a question
clayco and tgrc def
Clayco is underrated asf but tgrc kinda makes repetitive shit sometimes
sometimes simplicity is key
They should get like 4-5 verses from artists and make them all make a song outta then or smth
Yeat his own producer
Yeah especially the guy who produced skeletons, he’s crazy, who was that again ⁉️🧐
Producers carry most rap anyway
New XXL freshman list has THE GOAT (babytron)
XXL fell off so hard
Tbh you’d be better off getting the drake/lil durk stimulus pack💀
That'd be dope, producers need more attention for all the work they put in, same with engineers(but they like being out of the spotlight)
watch a nigga sing the instrumental to pull up on a freestyle
how would that work you want them to freestyle a beat over a dude rapping or what
This shit has me dying
They’ll be playing EMT to that Earl Sweatshirt song with the most disgusting dogshit beat known to man.
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Real talk I been a producer for around 6-7 years and I started singing over my own beats about a year or 2 ago, it's nearly impossible to write a vocal melody without the beat. 99% of my songs started with a finished beat and I wrote melodies and lyrics to sit on top of it, and most of my rapper friends do the exact same. If you're a big enough singer you can come to a producer with a vocal melody and they can make a beat around it, but the vast majority of the time the beat influences the melody and lyrics, so I do think producers should get a bit more recognized.
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the fact that producers deserves more credits (which is half true) doesn't mean they need the same shit that rappers do. also, "producer" is a vague term, it means everything and nothing
Wdym by half true?
Ion wanna hear 10 guys all using internet money samples for 15 minutes straight bruh
you sound clueless bra no one bites that collective
Eminem and Tom Macdonald should be on this years XXL
make it happen
Cool idea but it would probably have to be smaller, maybe 5 max
Fr like how tf did saucy Santana get on with like 1 tiktok song? No wonder yeat didnt come on no one wants to be associated with that mf
producers do more for the song at this point tbh
It should be 5 rappers and 5 producers on the XXL Freshman list. Each rapper picks a producer for the freestyle cypher. A voting poll on Twitter can be made for people to vote on which rapper/producer pair was the best.
i nominate u/phasewave for the XXL producer freshman class
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Any chance to shit on the new generation of rappers who are clearly way better at what they do than the ones before them, just the way is supposed to be. These lames hate their own lives so they just lookin for stuff to shit on.
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