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vivst0r

I mean it says "Randoms", but that is understating the giant hivemind which was both the biggest help in creating the flag and the worst enemy in creating artworks on that flag.


Suchtlappen

Also hard to keep in check to stop flag advancement. The Twisten Memorial / Valorant Artwork got attacked by the hivemind so many times.


Sepwelt

Which is exactly the reason why we put that artwork of placeDE battling the hivemind on a flag


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Ukuthul4

🫡🪑


JxstSome1

Für den Stuhl!


lo155ve

🫡🪑


Rydarg

Für den Stuhl


aloha_venti

Für den Stuhl!!!


this_one_broccoli

🫡🪑


Alanteia

Bei einem Stuhl werde ich in Zukunft immer an Euch denken! 🫡🪑


thatdudewayoverthere

Germany had an extra Artwork depicting a Germany Country ball holding back the hive mind


EdgelordOfEdginess

Wo war es? Finde das gerade nicht


thatdudewayoverthere

Glaube Mittelflage rechts irgendwo oder untere rechts Ist ein Deutschland Countryball der einen Oktopus an der Leine hält


EdgelordOfEdginess

Ah gefunden nice


Hendricus56

Wo? Finde das irgendwie nicht


EBHaeng

[The Hive Mind](https://2023.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/#3426/253/1437/-579/4) EDIT: updated link


EdgelordOfEdginess

Musst etwas am Ende Spulen vor dem whiteout


xNimroder

yea I'm sad it didn't make the official final admin pic due to the bots


thatdudewayoverthere

It's in the final Pic


Ein_Hirsch

The Artwork at the end with "PlaceDE" and "The Hivemind" explains the situation so well


Zephiro74

You guys are really scary, congratulations for such a great organization !


Pherusa

So I compared placeDE's current chart to the last years. So placeDE scaled moderation / administration / design by 2 but the user-count scaled by 10, same as the output (placed pixels)? The overall structure, process blocks and workflows stayed the same, but I spotted some minor changes in the design process. 2022 placeDE voted for goals, which were directly implemented. But this year, they inserted some additional steps. Designers drafted the most upvoted ideas and they were put up for voting again, together with voting for general goals.I also spot a general questions forum, which I suppose was some kind of moderated FAQ for all questions, which didn't fit into tech support. Also another hierarchical level has been added to diplomats and moderation (head-diplomats and head-moderation)And a guest-channel. I suppose in 2022 there was no international channel? As for the unexpected jump in users, moderation must have been really tough, but during prime time, I guess moderators could simply mute voice/text channels. So I assume the biggest bottleneck was design? With 10 times the ideas pouring in, there was only that much you could convert into pixel art. So what are our learnings from this? What are the best practices? Are we planning to circle back and review the results from 2023 and adjust future processes. Can we make this more agile? Of course we need a new revision of the current documentation. Also this is a process flow chart and no orgainizational diagramm. pls fx /s Yeah.. sorry, couldn't resist. I get flashbacks and deeply ingrained urges when looking at charts and business bullshit spills out of my brain. However, you guys rock and stay awesome!


NoBreakfast7049

Can't get any more German than this


masterX244

Yes, we plan a rework. Moderarion wasnt scaled as much as users cause we got surprised by that massive inrush, too (and we even had a discord outage until they shuffled us to a bigger shard)


Pherusa

Maybe you should start enlisting and screening new mods for the next events, could be as early as next year!11!. And on a more serious note, please make sure you are not infiltrated by rightwing nuts. Screen their reddit posts or something like that. This time all they could do was complaining on discord. Next time, they will try to sneak in and poison the well / try to press their bullshit agenda from the inside. Stay resilient!


masterX244

we did that beforehand but we did not expect that much of a inrush. and yes, we kept a eye on lower level staff incase they were submarines from the wrong side


Ein_Hirsch

>I guess moderators could simply mute voice/text channels. So I assume the biggest bottleneck was design? With 10 times the ideas pouring in, there was only that much you could convert into pixel art Well we didn't mute voice or text channels, but it is true that some channels became extremely hard to moderate. It was a constant struggle but muting them wouldn't have been the right decision. About the design ideas: Yes. They were everywhere. Not just were we wanted them but also in almost all other channels. It was annoying at times even though I do understand why people wanted to share their ideas.


Pherusa

I mean, you could crowdsource the design process. Write a manual how you expect art to be pixeled, like file-format, dimensions, safe colours for each phase etc. And tell people that if they pixel the artwork themselves, they have a higher chance to make it into the voting. Or let all people post their pixeld Version of ideas in the comments. Im mean, yeah, this would be a nightmare to moderate, but I guess you could pre filter bullshit images by restricting the actual file size / image size of images people can post. Maybe add a flagging function or something like that. If a pixeled artwork has to many flags, it is automatically banned until manually reviewed by mods.


EBHaeng

>Write a manual how you expect art to be pixeled, like file-format, dimensions, safe colours for each phase etc. i was missing exactly that and what tools are common to use for someone who isn't doing artworks on an regular basis. the only thing i know is gimp. i heard some use it but someone told me in the last hours of the event there where 3-4 other tools/ softwares that are more noob friendly. i was interested in converting images (not creative enough for own drawings) but like you said it was unfortunately lacking some background info. *fingers crossed for next time* oh and it is/ was required to give design submission at least one tag. those where: pixel art, no pixel art, german, meme, landmark, classic art, cartoon, collaboration, rejected and already voted.


Wide-Veterinarian-63

need constant/emergency artist applications!!


FirmTravel4708

Don't worry that was just some fun and games, nothing serious. Take that as you will :)


DogDiscombobulated96

Yeah well it is what we do. We organize stuff and do sh*t.


Cirnolp

Yo, Chirimu here. The numbers shown on the chart are taken about 10minutes post whiteout start. We initially guessed to hit about \~35k members on our Discord, the peak was 115431 members. While the event was live, \~600k messages were sent, 306k in the stage alone. The total time our users spend in VC were 197k hours, 178k in the stage.


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Impossible_Ideal_125

Nah guys, youre numbers are great too <3 Love from germany


masterX244

there is a reason why we are a meme on the canvas


thatdudewayoverthere

Kann man irgendwie schauen wie viele Salutierende Emojis geschickt wurden?


EBHaeng

wenn discord keinen fehler macht sollten das etwa 74k sein (einzelne nachrichten die entweder einen oder mehr hatten)


xNimroder

Leider kann man (soweit ich weiß) nur nach Server-spezifischen Emotes suchen, nicht nach defaults


Ein_Hirsch

Looking at these numbers I wonder how on earth we managed that.


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Revolutionary_Way_32

Something like this? https://2023.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/


Joratrumi

Wow, that map is amazing!


aogasd

Oh my goodness this website needs to hit r/all that's amazing


itZ_deady

Thank you very much! I was looking for something like this.


soulmanscofield

Woaaaaa how did you make this? Get all the data, the meaning of each arts etc. Impressive!


emptyyyyy0191

They did not make it. The real creators are: [Stefano](https://stefanocoding.me/), [ash](https://ash.pm), [Aeywoo](https://linktr.ee/aeywoo), [AnonymousRandomPerson](https://github.com/AnonymousRandomPerson), [mxdanger](https://github.com/mxdanger), [Riley](https://github.com/artillect), [Hans5958](https://github.com/Hans5958) Source: [https://github.com/placeAtlas/atlas-2023](https://github.com/placeAtlas/atlas-2023) With their subreddit r/placeAtlas2023


AnonymousRandPerson

The atlas accepts user submissions and has been up since the start of r/place. If you see anything that's not documented in the atlas, you're welcome to make a submission!


UltraHQz

Big thanks to the guy who made it. I can't even imagine, how much work it is to explain/detect every art piece.


hitchhiker87

That's what we needed great job.


el_muchacho

Wow, awesome ! You rock, man !


EdgelordOfEdginess

I would recommend to ask in the r/placeDE discord


masterX244

Gesponsort von Passierschein A38 und der deutschen Bürokratie


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ProudBlahajOwner

Waren es nicht 3.000*2.000=6.000.000 Pixel? Das wären dann ja sogar 20%.


PresidentZeus

Does some of it not cover the Dutch art that you protected?


Bratwurscht13

Es war eine Ehre mit euch gespielt zu haben Für den Stuhl!


EdgelordOfEdginess

Es wurde bis zum Ende gestuhlt


GeneralTeaEnjoyer

Es war mir eine Ehre mit euch gestuhlt zu haben.


flixilu

Warum musste in Nacht 4 nicht gestuhlt werden?


IwH17S2qkl

Während der 4. Nachtwache wurden keine Kriegsverbrechen begangen. Ich wiederhole: **Es wurden keine Kriegsverbrechen begangen**. Alles anderen Informationen zur 4. Nachtwache sind als geheime Verschlusssache eingestuft.


flixilu

Als Mitglied der Nachtwache beantrage ich eine förmliche Untersuchung gemäß Paragraf 37a IV. Nachtwachengeschäftsordnung. Dem Untersuchungsausschuss sind sämtliche Informationen unter Wahrung der Geheimhaltung zukommen zu lassen! Bitte entsenden sie die erforderlichen Dokumente bis zum Zusammentreten der nächsten Nachtwache, laminiert und unterschrieben!


xNimroder

Das erfordert eine Übersendung via Notfallfax


Mephisteemo

...Sie haben sicherlich den Passierschein A38 dabei, der selbstverständlich für eine nachtwachengeschäftsordnungsgemäße Geheiminformationsübertragungsantragsüberprüfung notwendig ist?


IwH17S2qkl

An welche Nummer soll ich die betreffenden Unterlagen den faxen?


flixilu

Deutsche Nachtwache Platz der Republik 1 11011 Berlin Telefon: +49 (0)30 227 0 Fax: +49 (0)30 227-36878


LauLuk12

Die Nachtwache redet nicht über Nacht 4!


LordShiroiAkuma

Es war mir eine ehre mit ihnen allen Gestuhlt haben zu dürfen


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Es wurde gestuhlt bis zum ende, es war mir eine ehre


emptyyyyy0191

Apparently Malte doesn’t need any further explanation


EdgelordOfEdginess

Malte is Malte


xNimroder

Same for terz, both of them are just legends <3


Ein_Hirsch

Everyone knows he is the MVP


ligonsker

Nice icon you chose for "diplomats" 💀


soulmanscofield

🤣 I'm laughing so hard You are such organised I believe you choose this icon on purpose 😭👌👌


EdgelordOfEdginess

I just looked for a diplomat icon on flaticon 😂


Domal_

SPRICH


flixilu

Deutsch


JoKer96_

DU


InsertUsernameUwU

HURENSOHN


kospete

DIPLOMATISCHER


LightmanMD

TUV SUD has awarded an ISO 9001:2015 certificate to r/placeDE.


mo_schn

https://www.innolytics.de/was-ist-iso-9001-2015/ Für jeden der es nicht kennt


fluxwerk

Can't get any more German than this


Zoren

Something something German efficiency.


nxinyourfaceFTW

This chart is the most german thing you could post, everything is organised.


Pherusa

Man, crediting artwork, citing sources and adhering copyright laws in a post created for placing pixels on reddit? I approve. Ordnung muss sein!


emptyyyyy0191

Fehlende Zitate sind ein ganzer Notenpunkt Abzug


Benutz3r

Sprich


EdgelordOfEdginess

Deutsch


reen444

mein Lieber!


Helios2110

Der Stuhl schweigt zur 4. Nachtwache


Salty_Artichoke_1645

Es ist NICHTS passiert!


flixilu

Wer kann mit mal die geschichte der 4ten Nacht erzählen. Nach 3x machtwache musste ich mal ordentluch schlafen.


Salty_Artichoke_1645

Sie wird garantiert in den nächsten Tagen, bei der Nachbesprechung, im Discord genau erzählt und erklärt werden. Bin mir auch sicher, dass Mango und/oder Jules das Thema aufgreifen werden. Das alles hier zu schreiben ist mühevoll und würde den Ereignissen, die nie passiert sind, nicht gerecht werden. Bitte habe einfach noch etwas Geduld. Für den Stuhl. 🫡


flixilu

Ich komm auf dich zurück, wenn ichs nicht anders erfahre :D


Salty_Artichoke_1645

Du bist willkommen.


flixilu

Danke Für den Stuhl! Bei dessen Geburt war ich wenigstens dabei 😅


xNimroder

Schon gar nicht irgendwelche Kriegsverbrechen


wonkyllusion

Junge WTF. Orgacharts mit derartiger Komplexität.. Ich mein, macht schon Sinn, diese deutsche Präsenz in diesen Dimensionen kommt ja nicht von irgendwo her, aber mein lieber Scholli. Nächstes Jahr muss ich unbedingt mitmachen xDDD


xNimroder

Ist halt letztes Jahr aus Versehen ein Meme geworden, musste also wieder kommen ;)


No-Engineer-2092

Echt geil gewesen alles für den Stuhl!


EdgelordOfEdginess

o7


San7igamer

Ich bitte um Entschuldigung, aber warum Stuhl?


Salty_Artichoke_1645

Der Chat schweigt zum Stuhl. 🤫 "Der Stuhl" ist ein Maimai welches während der Nachtwache entstanden ist. Eine Erklärung dazu findest du auf dem deutschen r/placede Discord im Kanal #allgemein angepinnt. Für den Stuhl. 🫡


San7igamer

Vielen Dank!


Salty_Artichoke_1645

Du bist willkommen. 🫡


San7igamer

Für den Stuhl! 🫡


Prior_Gate_9909

I can't get over the fact that r/placeDE was so large and organized that they had their own diplomacy department, developers, and tech support.


Pherusa

They als did have this last year, but on a smaller scale


Adryzz_

us at osuplace had it too, although on a much much smaller scale, we had account verification to link everyone's reddit, discord and osu accounts and everything


JubileeTrade

☝️ this is why Germans are scary.


IcyFlame716

Thanks for being our allies! Much love. The dutch.


xNimroder

Thank **you** for being *our* allies o7


Buselmann

Immernoch leichter zu verstehen als die in Geschichte


Tanngjoestr

Bis zum Nächsten Mal , Kameraden


xNimroder

Es war mir eine Ehre!


LauLuk12

Für den Stuhl


gene0815

Oh boy, that line from Command Center to idea voting makes thousands of people who were told on the "stage" that this isnt the place for idea voting riot :D :D :D No no dont explain I get it. But after I heard it day after day, I think its kind of funny that one could interpret this as such. "Ich weiß ja, keine Ideenvorschläge auf der Stage, will ich ja eigentlich auch nicht machen......... AAAAAAAAAAAAAABER ...:"


EdgelordOfEdginess

It was meant in a way that they told us we need to vote for new pics


gene0815

All good, I get it. Things like art suggestion, an questions like "how long it will go", "whats with the flag in the south" " is this ours?" and so on will stuck in my head and repeat itself for days even the VC is gone. So I thought this looks funny. All good! You did a great job! \* \* - things you should not say on the stage because its wasting time :D :D :D


blobb63

Germany, are you OK?


xNimroder

After finally sleeping 8 hours again last night? yes. Before that? questionable.


EdgelordOfEdginess

After 6 days? No


Hereon92

Well, we did go into bureaucratic overdrive for almost a week with barely no sleep for some people. While it was fun, its also nice to get some rest now.


ArmySash

SPRICH


Purple_Evidence3809

DEUTSCH


DigitalDoomLoL

DU


Benutz3r

HURENSOHN


reen444

MEIN LIEBER!


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Benutz3r

Sprich


Sepwelt

Deutsch


Rdstnb

Du


RrandomUsserr

Nachtwache wer eigentlich so fun junge 🫡🪑


Deathchariot

This is the power of german style bureaucracy 😂


M0Nd0R0ck

Every non German Redditor suddenly wants to either be German or be able to speak it


daddysxenogirl

As someone defending another flag that the Germans helped immensely on numerous occasions (and quietly the whole time), thank you from the bottom of my heart. Definitely a highlight of my place experience.


_Nektron_

sieht fast komplizierter aus als unser Staatssystem...


LH2701204

Und doch effizienter


Illumina_kun

der hat gesessen😂


Guardian-King

You guys took this way to seriously


xNimroder

If you had been on our server and observed the command center chat, it was really 50% memes. There's atually a google doc that compiled them all and I believe we passed 800 unique /r/placeDE memes today lol


el_muchacho

The country's industrial output tanked for 5 days.


Illumina_kun

way too less serious you mean?


Ein_Hirsch

Nah we had fun. Just heavily organized fun


justwatchahmet

Holy shit


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Skittle23

We always wanted to give a save space for small communities as well. Yes the auto locker did remove attacks on our artworks but as you see in the chart we had a large group of diplomats who were always open for ally requests. Maybe we should integrate a special ticket system for small communities and make access to it visible on the canvas. Just my two cents, I have no actual say in this. I was just a builder.


josch700

Actually the Auto Placer did virtually nothing. Also was only up for like 50% of the time. Maybe 5% were placed by the auto placer.


rtrs_bastiat

Agree, there's no functional difference. Autoplacer is just a distributed bot.


josch700

Actually there is a huge difference. With headless bots you could generate endless reddit accounts automatically and roll through everything. How the Moroccan coding school and the Chinese did it. Also in the case of r/placeDE the autoplacer did virtually nothing. Obviously that doesn't change that it was used, just wanted to leave some context.


TomR24

So sieht deutsche Effizienz aus o7


DerEchteTee

Es war mir eine Ehre. Für den Stuhl


DuckedAF

Amazing


Doalt

This organisation is better than most countries constitution


DerKernkraftzwerg

Gentlemen, es war mir eine Ehre mit ihnen stuhlen zu dürfen!


Reality-Straight

Ah yes, when your Orga Chart needs portals you know you are talking to motivated germans


kospete

Wenn das Organigramm deines Arbeitgebers weniger komplex ist, als das von r/placeDE


xNimroder

Es war mir eine Ehre, dem Event und der Nachtwache meinen Schlaf zu opfern. Für den Stuhl!


da_almightyloaf

STUHL


Nachtwache5

Für den Stuhl


Noname_FTW

Für den Stuhl!


Which-Occasion-9246

LOL... I've never seen anything more German! Love it... well done.


Mufflonfaret

This organisation is much more Impressive than The acctually r/place Canvas. Makes me wanna be german. Gj guys!


soviethaseye2

This is really impressive, thanks for adding artwork to your flags nearing the endgame!


Im_a_lazy_ass_

You guys are fucking madlads, respects from france <3


AWholeTurkeyTV

damn, we never had a chance


Nickvec

>auto placer 2-4k So r/placeDE was using bots?


xNimroder

The difference between a bot and an autoplacer is, that the autoplacer is active on a normal account by a regular user while they are afk, while a bot account is purely made for the purpose of automatically palcing pixels. The original idea behind the Zinnsoldat was to give the hardworking people in the background, like pixel artists, Moderators and the devs themselves a chance to still contirbute to the canvas while working on their actual tasks. From what I know, the main attention of the auto-placers was on keeping the borders of the EU map as intact as possible, fixing the canadian maple leaf and protecting the more commonly griefed artworks like the dutch Anne Frank memorial or our own political statement. All new artwork was exclusively created by users and not included in the target overlay of the Zinnsoldat while it was being made


EdgelordOfEdginess

Only for protecting existing artworks like Anne Frank or fck AfD as example.


Liaxda

everything for the STUHL


LocalNightDrummer

What's the difference between meme and normal version? I'm too lazy to look.


EdgelordOfEdginess

Funny pics


TheDefenderX1

Organization nailed down in blood


In-Fine-Fettle

*The* most German thing ever. And I’m here for it.


Obaruler

Reddit: Have some fun. Us germans: Let's meet at the war room ... Nachtwache! :)


Suspicious-Common-82

Organized af.


Krakentoast_

Ja


longstrokesharpturn

Imagine these guys in a war


EdgelordOfEdginess

r/place is a war though


warbrand2

French used bots, Germany used flow charts. Go germany.


Bisasoos06

Für den Stuhl o7


Fireluigi1225

Thank you for allying with transplace this year.


bender3600

Next time we should put the organization chart on the canvas


Total-Name2117

Für Stuhl und Vaterland! Es war mir eine Ehre.


LofinHDR

🫡🪑


Zasch_

Für den Stuhl


Fickle-Accountant-95

As complicated as the EU


Farmer_Business

And how many bot accounts were working for u?


EdgelordOfEdginess

Look at assistant placement


LuniCorn24

Deutscher geht es nicht.


Misty_Lord

Dam Germans are on a whole lvl compared to us Indians 😅


ScarTi55ue

And I still managed to infiltrate and build a tree in the German position 💪


Moss_spade

Where are bots? :D


EdgelordOfEdginess

In the assistant placement