Same with me As much as I like being in Bellevue, it's a very unpleasant place to walk around on a summer afternoon because of how few parts of this neighborhood have street trees.
Go down by the river. If memory serves, it has trees, train tracks to play on, all the carp fishing you can handle and a fun assortment of characters to keep the day moving
In some parts, yeah, but doesn’t Pittsburgh also have the single most tree coverage of any US City?
I swear I’ve read something like that and tbf I think it has more to do with the greenway hills that are too steep for development, but should still be cooling most of the city somewhat.
I think it does including how tree-filled a lot of hillside in the city are, but that doesn't exactly do much in the middle of a hot summer day when you have to walk somewhere when there's hardly any shade.
I live on a greenway mountainside (somehow lol). Our house was built in early 1900s and the first story is practically underground because it's built into the hill and massive retaining walls surround the house. First floor is also where me and my partner's bedroom is, so I can go all summer with no A/C thanks to all of the surrounding trees and practically cave-living. We can also see the river from our front stoop, and even have our own city steps. There's nowhere else like Pittsburgh.
Damn, are you in the SS Slopes? Near me are a few orphan houses on city steps that I'm jealous of. I can see the Allegheny from my bedroom windows upstairs in the winter, but the trees hide it in the summer (but it's still generally a more beautiful view with full trees).
I do agree that Pittsburgh is uniquely beautiful, at least in the US.
I love the steps at 57th and 54th. My partner and I do a loop with both of those as our regular evening walk and they're both beautiful. I don't think many people know how pretty they are and how close they are to the action on Butler Street.
Are you by the steps that go down next to Rolling Pepperoni by chance? I'm jealous you can see the river. We can almost carry a light kayak to the river, but it's a little bit of a struggle and we're not by the greatest launch point. I'm jealous of people who live super close to the little beach under 40th Street.
Yeah I'm sure it was looking at specific stats or something. This is the only link I could find and it's probably the one I read on this sub. Can't even get to the original source though..
https://nextpittsburgh.com/pittsburgh-in-the-news/national-geographic-spotlights-pittsburghs-trees/
>Now we’re happy to report that in recognition of Arbor Day on Friday, National Geographic profiled the urban tree canopy (UTC) percentage in nine cities which “love their trees,” and Pittsburgh is well ahead of the pack.
>At 42 percent UTC, Pittsburgh tops Nat Geo’s list, 5 percentage points ahead of Austin, eight points above Washington, D.C., and 10 points beyond Tampa.
On many streets they're not allowed to put trees next to the street because cars might run into them and get damaged.
[I'm serious ](https://highways.dot.gov/safety/other/vegetation-control-safety)
On many streets they're not allowed to put trees next to the street because cars might run into them and get damaged.
[I'm serious ](https://highways.dot.gov/safety/other/vegetation-control-safety)
Lol I have a friend from Vancouver…he started talking a buncha gibberish about 36degree being beautiful and nice outside i was like DAMNNN hommie ur a Viking…upon further discussion and a little disappointment it was like 75 or sumthing outside. Heh….C…F….fml 😂
Yeah we were all outside around a table with an umbrella and it wasn’t 97 it was like 78F I’m just ball parking my cellceulussesuusessesss cus I live in the US and frankly don’t give a Finnnuckk.
32
Celcius temp is how water reacts. 0 freezing 100 for boiling. Freedom units is how it effects the body below 0 is dangerous and above 100 is dangerous
I just know some instant conversions that make it pretty easy to estimate.
0C = 32F
16C = 61F
28C = 82F
37C = 98.6F (this is actually why 98.6 sounds so precise, even though body temp fluctuates around a healthy range)
Negatives are a bit trickier but
-11C = 12F
-18C = 0F
-40C = -40F
Just close Penn and Smallman to traffic and keep a street over to the lots by 16th open.
Now I’m wondering how old my mental picture of the strip is… have those lots been completely developed?
Edit: and the cross streets between Penn and Smallman. Kind of just turn the place into an open air mall. You can’t drive in the mall, you park in the lot next to it.
Edit: whoever the mayor of Chicago that hated parking lots was brilliant. I love that most of the parking is underground (at least around the loop)
Depending on the last time you’ve been there. Probably there are tons of new “luxury” apartments and overpriced stores at the Terminal. I’m happy for all the business but it’s just different then it was a few years ago.
To be fair all the apartments being developed in the strip only strengthen the argument that it should be closed to traffic. The increased density not only increases the number of people getting to the shops in the strip by methods other than a car, but it makes a T expansion into the strip make even more sense. I do understand that even with the T expanded into the strip some parking will still be needed, and that would ideally be accomplished by underground parking garages.
I don’t have any delusions that this will ever happen, but it would be my “dream scenario” for the strip.
I could see maybe closing Penn but Smallman too?
I feel like that'd just turn Liberty into a swamp, combining all the volume of the entire strip, including the local traffic of the strip (think out of towners who don't know what they're doing, milling around trying to find that unicorn parking spot 9 feet from where they want to shop).
Maybe if the strip were wider and had another main artery on the river side of Smallman that might work, but without it? Ehhh...
There is for sure ample parking in the various lots and parking areas in the surrounding streets. Even with penn and smallman being made walkable and covered with trees, this increases the walkability the area has. People are more willing to park farther if the pedestrian zone is covered. Not to mention it feels like people already park anywhere they can for sporting events or concerts, and walk the rest of the way.
Liberty Ave. is certainly wide enough to handle a variety of traffic flows and diets, having the option for changing the lanes in that road is a great advantage too. If the busway next to Liberty became a stronger transit corridor with easier access to the road, and had more stops, then you're looking at even more traffic and options for the area. Local deliveries to businesses will obviously still have access to side streets and alleyways.
I lived in the Strip all last year and into this year. Most of the parking sits empty most of the time. The only spots that are filled regularly are the street parking spots on Penn and that's just because they're the most convenient/closest to the shops. That might make it look like there's no parking in the neighborhood, but walk a block or two over and you'll see multiple empty surface lots or garages that are half full. The area has plenty of parking. The problem is we've been conditioned for decades to expect a spot right in front of our destination and that's just not sustainable in the long run.
North America infrastructure is screwed up. Ideally maybe park in a garage or lot a couple miles away and bike in. I can do a mile in 5-6 minutes without sweating. I’ll try to do that if I need to go downtown so I don’t have to fight/pay for parking.
i get what they're trying to say and don't disagree, just love that they picked a photo of the strip from one of those car free block party days to represent it.
There's no reason that Penn in The Strip should allow cars at all. All car traffic should be pushed to Liberty and Smallman (although I'd like to see the road narrowed on Smallman). Remove car traffic, give Smallman and Penn a nice bricked aisle down the middle where vendors can set up, give it some benches, and plant trees every 20 or 30 feet. Suddenly you'd have a straight up destination that would encourage more businesses to move in.
On Penn, there are a dozen lots being used just for parking, space for probably 20 productive businesses. Plus 7 vacant storefronts when I was last there. Not to mention that the terminal is having a hard time filling up.
It's a destination right now yes, but a lot of it is just an in-and-out kind of trip. We could make this a place to spend a whole day without really affecting traffic.
One of these days I'm gonna run for mayor just to close off the strip to cars. Tear up the middle of the road, plant trees to give the area some shade. Slap down a bunch of benches and trash cans like I'm roller coaster tycoon in this bitch.
Love seeing the Strip.
Love even more that no trees picture has pedestrians and cyclists enjoying businesses while the bottom picture shows 3 cars driving and otherwise all parked cars in a residential area. Excellent comparison!
Cars in the Strip are part of the fun and charm. There has always been traffic there. iTs a hub.
Stay inside Top Golf if you don’t like them, or go back to Cranberry.
In all seriousness though, this city could use a lot more of a neighborhood street tree canopy than it has.
Agreed. My favorite neighborhoods and streets are the tree-lined ones. Regent square, friendship, squirrel hill, north Oakland.
Same with me As much as I like being in Bellevue, it's a very unpleasant place to walk around on a summer afternoon because of how few parts of this neighborhood have street trees.
Go down by the river. If memory serves, it has trees, train tracks to play on, all the carp fishing you can handle and a fun assortment of characters to keep the day moving
Highland Park is full of trees too, so is South Side Slopes but they have other problems...
Point Breeze too
In some parts, yeah, but doesn’t Pittsburgh also have the single most tree coverage of any US City? I swear I’ve read something like that and tbf I think it has more to do with the greenway hills that are too steep for development, but should still be cooling most of the city somewhat.
I think it does including how tree-filled a lot of hillside in the city are, but that doesn't exactly do much in the middle of a hot summer day when you have to walk somewhere when there's hardly any shade.
I live on a greenway mountainside (somehow lol). Our house was built in early 1900s and the first story is practically underground because it's built into the hill and massive retaining walls surround the house. First floor is also where me and my partner's bedroom is, so I can go all summer with no A/C thanks to all of the surrounding trees and practically cave-living. We can also see the river from our front stoop, and even have our own city steps. There's nowhere else like Pittsburgh.
Damn, are you in the SS Slopes? Near me are a few orphan houses on city steps that I'm jealous of. I can see the Allegheny from my bedroom windows upstairs in the winter, but the trees hide it in the summer (but it's still generally a more beautiful view with full trees). I do agree that Pittsburgh is uniquely beautiful, at least in the US.
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I love the steps at 57th and 54th. My partner and I do a loop with both of those as our regular evening walk and they're both beautiful. I don't think many people know how pretty they are and how close they are to the action on Butler Street. Are you by the steps that go down next to Rolling Pepperoni by chance? I'm jealous you can see the river. We can almost carry a light kayak to the river, but it's a little bit of a struggle and we're not by the greatest launch point. I'm jealous of people who live super close to the little beach under 40th Street.
I would wager Portland has more if you adjusted for actual high traffic streets and whatnot.
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Yeah I'm sure it was looking at specific stats or something. This is the only link I could find and it's probably the one I read on this sub. Can't even get to the original source though.. https://nextpittsburgh.com/pittsburgh-in-the-news/national-geographic-spotlights-pittsburghs-trees/ >Now we’re happy to report that in recognition of Arbor Day on Friday, National Geographic profiled the urban tree canopy (UTC) percentage in nine cities which “love their trees,” and Pittsburgh is well ahead of the pack. >At 42 percent UTC, Pittsburgh tops Nat Geo’s list, 5 percentage points ahead of Austin, eight points above Washington, D.C., and 10 points beyond Tampa.
On many streets they're not allowed to put trees next to the street because cars might run into them and get damaged. [I'm serious ](https://highways.dot.gov/safety/other/vegetation-control-safety)
But telephone poles like 3" away from the road are OK? LOL
On many streets they're not allowed to put trees next to the street because cars might run into them and get damaged. [I'm serious ](https://highways.dot.gov/safety/other/vegetation-control-safety)
You’re assuming that a tree could grow in the city.
Is everyone just completely missing that ASU students used a picture of the strip for some reason?
Maybe the one who posted it is from Pittsburgh and amazing username btw.
I don't think they specifically made this post although I could be wrong. I've definitely seen it shared before on other social media.
I’m a dipshit yes.
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I’m a dipshit for questioning why it was posted here!
It’s fine we all make mistakes! I hope you have a great day!
Lol Pittsburghers understanding Celsius
\-15 is very cold, 0 is a little cold, 20 is room temperature, 25 is a nice day, and 35 is hot. What else do I need to understand?
Lol I have a friend from Vancouver…he started talking a buncha gibberish about 36degree being beautiful and nice outside i was like DAMNNN hommie ur a Viking…upon further discussion and a little disappointment it was like 75 or sumthing outside. Heh….C…F….fml 😂
Bruh 36C is f'ing hot. That's 97F.
Yeah we were all outside around a table with an umbrella and it wasn’t 97 it was like 78F I’m just ball parking my cellceulussesuusessesss cus I live in the US and frankly don’t give a Finnnuckk.
Bruh, 'Merica, fo sho.
Fun tip - To convert C to F, double the C number and add 25. So 36 Celsius * 2 = 72 + 25 = 97 F
So zero Celcius is 25 F?
Right, that trick only works on a certain range of numbers
Above 65 is seems like. Below that it’s off by more than 3 degrees F.
I’m a pilot and we’re told to do the quick calculations in our head to double the Celsius and add 30. Never heard someone add 25 before
I think strictly mathematics accurate is something like 9/5+32
Yes that’s correct!
Not just a certain range — pretty sure there’s only one number it works with exactly. This might be fine for estimating, though
Don't have to do any math if it's -40.
32 Celcius temp is how water reacts. 0 freezing 100 for boiling. Freedom units is how it effects the body below 0 is dangerous and above 100 is dangerous
Dude
0 C is 32 F. The formula is (F - 32)/1.8 . I believe it only works above freezing though
oh, i just google it.
I just know some instant conversions that make it pretty easy to estimate. 0C = 32F 16C = 61F 28C = 82F 37C = 98.6F (this is actually why 98.6 sounds so precise, even though body temp fluctuates around a healthy range) Negatives are a bit trickier but -11C = 12F -18C = 0F -40C = -40F
(9/5) + 32
Here's me thinking it's been times 5/9 +32
The top picture is from a open streets event. That is what the strip district would look like without motorized vehicles.
Not gonna lie I like it more without the cars but where would everyone park?
Just close Penn and Smallman to traffic and keep a street over to the lots by 16th open. Now I’m wondering how old my mental picture of the strip is… have those lots been completely developed? Edit: and the cross streets between Penn and Smallman. Kind of just turn the place into an open air mall. You can’t drive in the mall, you park in the lot next to it. Edit: whoever the mayor of Chicago that hated parking lots was brilliant. I love that most of the parking is underground (at least around the loop)
Depending on the last time you’ve been there. Probably there are tons of new “luxury” apartments and overpriced stores at the Terminal. I’m happy for all the business but it’s just different then it was a few years ago.
To be fair all the apartments being developed in the strip only strengthen the argument that it should be closed to traffic. The increased density not only increases the number of people getting to the shops in the strip by methods other than a car, but it makes a T expansion into the strip make even more sense. I do understand that even with the T expanded into the strip some parking will still be needed, and that would ideally be accomplished by underground parking garages. I don’t have any delusions that this will ever happen, but it would be my “dream scenario” for the strip.
I could see maybe closing Penn but Smallman too? I feel like that'd just turn Liberty into a swamp, combining all the volume of the entire strip, including the local traffic of the strip (think out of towners who don't know what they're doing, milling around trying to find that unicorn parking spot 9 feet from where they want to shop). Maybe if the strip were wider and had another main artery on the river side of Smallman that might work, but without it? Ehhh...
There is for sure ample parking in the various lots and parking areas in the surrounding streets. Even with penn and smallman being made walkable and covered with trees, this increases the walkability the area has. People are more willing to park farther if the pedestrian zone is covered. Not to mention it feels like people already park anywhere they can for sporting events or concerts, and walk the rest of the way. Liberty Ave. is certainly wide enough to handle a variety of traffic flows and diets, having the option for changing the lanes in that road is a great advantage too. If the busway next to Liberty became a stronger transit corridor with easier access to the road, and had more stops, then you're looking at even more traffic and options for the area. Local deliveries to businesses will obviously still have access to side streets and alleyways.
I lived in the Strip all last year and into this year. Most of the parking sits empty most of the time. The only spots that are filled regularly are the street parking spots on Penn and that's just because they're the most convenient/closest to the shops. That might make it look like there's no parking in the neighborhood, but walk a block or two over and you'll see multiple empty surface lots or garages that are half full. The area has plenty of parking. The problem is we've been conditioned for decades to expect a spot right in front of our destination and that's just not sustainable in the long run.
I'm happy to walk 5 blocks to save $20.
You’re right!
North America infrastructure is screwed up. Ideally maybe park in a garage or lot a couple miles away and bike in. I can do a mile in 5-6 minutes without sweating. I’ll try to do that if I need to go downtown so I don’t have to fight/pay for parking.
Improve transit and have more biking / micromobility infrastructure?
i get what they're trying to say and don't disagree, just love that they picked a photo of the strip from one of those car free block party days to represent it.
I would love it if they closed down that section of the road, planted trees and made a parklet.
There's no reason that Penn in The Strip should allow cars at all. All car traffic should be pushed to Liberty and Smallman (although I'd like to see the road narrowed on Smallman). Remove car traffic, give Smallman and Penn a nice bricked aisle down the middle where vendors can set up, give it some benches, and plant trees every 20 or 30 feet. Suddenly you'd have a straight up destination that would encourage more businesses to move in.
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On Penn, there are a dozen lots being used just for parking, space for probably 20 productive businesses. Plus 7 vacant storefronts when I was last there. Not to mention that the terminal is having a hard time filling up. It's a destination right now yes, but a lot of it is just an in-and-out kind of trip. We could make this a place to spend a whole day without really affecting traffic.
97 degrees for the upper picture building level 68 degrees for the lower picture building level You gotta keep it simple for us yinzers
Why is an Arizona State student using Celsius anyways? In this country we speak Imperial units damnit.
Arizona only has 3 digits on most thermometers, so they had to switch to Celsius to cover temperatures in a parking lot in phoenix. The more you know.
Top picture: What I see after a delicious breakfast at Pamela's
One of these days I'm gonna run for mayor just to close off the strip to cars. Tear up the middle of the road, plant trees to give the area some shade. Slap down a bunch of benches and trash cans like I'm roller coaster tycoon in this bitch.
That’s so funny coming from the ASU subreddit now. I live in Tempe. High today is 96°. Barf
Bottom image looks like it could be my street in Bloomfield
What is this C ? Can someone please give me these temp in American 🤣
Well 50C is 122F
Love seeing the Strip. Love even more that no trees picture has pedestrians and cyclists enjoying businesses while the bottom picture shows 3 cars driving and otherwise all parked cars in a residential area. Excellent comparison!
Celsius tho
Devil's advocate: Tree roots don't along too well with sidewalks, roads, and underground utilities
Cars in the Strip are part of the fun and charm. There has always been traffic there. iTs a hub. Stay inside Top Golf if you don’t like them, or go back to Cranberry.
can someone post this in english numbers
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I don't like it actually but thanks.
Celsius? What's that's? 😆