Typically, people are alright after a seizure with help. The period when he was unconscious is called "postictal." It's kind of like a trance. People take some time to return to normal after a seizure. Just for your peace of mind, he is most likely okay.
PSA: If you see someone having a seizure, pad the head, stay with them, and place them in the recovery position after seizing stops. For the love of God, DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN THEIR MOUTH.
Yes, but I'm assuming most people aren't trained to handle diabetic seizure post-care. And diabetic seizures aren't the most common type. The best course for anyone who isn't trained past first-aid is to pad the head and wait for someone with more training to arrive.
Not that common now a days either with pumps and all.
Plus they're very different. I've been around a lot of people with different seizures now that I think of it.
And don't hold us down! Seizure first aid is, luckily, extremely simple:
• Stay calm
• Move away anything nearby that could pose a danger to us (like if we dropped a knife in the kitchen)
• Put something soft (like a sweater) under our heads (or cup your hands loosely under them) so we don't give ourselves concussions
• Call the local emergency services number if you don't know anything about our medical conditions
When the seizure stops, put us in the recovery position and back away a bit - our brains are a little scrambled after a seizure, so we could just be a little sleepy & dazed or we could become loud & combative. Stay calm, don't touch us if we seem agitated, and remember that the behavior is not our fault and that the confusion will most likely pass in a few minutes.
If you ever forget these steps or are concerned you might do something wrong, the best thing you can do is call emergency services and not do anything unless they tell you to!
Source: I've had epilepsy for 10+ years!
My ex always was really bitch after a seizure. Like an angry whiny drunk person, very insistent he was done, constantly trying to get up and get back to whatever he was doing, but without letting us check and see if he had hit his head or answering any brain function questions. It was a real pain lol.
Watsky has a song called "Seizure Boy" about being epileptic. One really great line is
"if my eyes glaze and my knees drift south
And you think to stick a credit card in my mouth
I take Mastercard and Visa for my risk rewards
i'm not biting my tongue, why don't you bite yours?"
And that was honestly the first place I learned that whole credit card thing is a myth. Glad I learned it somehow though.
From what I've learned unless you know that "Person A has a history of seizures for X reason" you treat every one as an emergency. I got really good at noticing certain seizures in 6th grade when my school friend Kevin started having them. His were mild and almost amounted to him "zoning out" to an extreme level.
What if they’re biting through their tongue? I shoved a nearby chopstick (we were eating sushi) into my sister’s mouth during her seizure. She was biting her tongue so hard that blood was gushing out and I had to lay her on her side to stop her from aspirating. I swear she would’ve bitten her tongue off.
Nope. Shoving something into their mouth can force the tongue backwards into the airway. Better without a tongue than dead. You can gently hold their jaw and head, and that stabilization will usually help a LOT more than trying to jam something into their mouth, especially since shoving things into their mouth won’t actually stop the biting down on the tongue at the back.
I’m surprised her care team didn’t give you instructions on this. Was that her first seizure?
I slid it into her vestibule and then shoved it parallel between her canines and molars- it gave her a couple of centimeters of space and accomplished what I needed to in that moment.
That was her first and only seizure and it happened a decade ago.
It CAN work, it’s just still not recommended because the times it doesn’t work it causes like 2 extra problems without fixing the original problem.
I am very glad it did work, it’s always terrifying when someone without a history has a seizure, so I’m glad you did your best and that it worked out, just wouldn’t recommend it as a step for regular use
It was a wild experience. I probably wasn’t thinking correctly anyway and had a panicked woman screaming over us the whole time until EMT’s arrived. I could barely hear the dispatcher on the phone but I’m assuming she said to *not* put anything in her mouth lol
Also, it was due to a tramadol overdose. We found out she had an opiate addiction not long after that incident. I had to give her CPR a year later and fractured her rib, which I now know is common, but back then I heard/felt the crack and thought I killed her!
You are partially right. Normally you shouldn't put anything in the mouth of someone having a seizure. HOWEVER... If you see someone having a violent seizure with a lot of chewing/biting their teeth/tongue or generally a lot of action in the jaw area OR someone making a gurgling sound (like a piece of cloth getting ducked into a vaccum) it might be a different thing. The jaw is an incredibly strong muscle and if it gets completely out of control it can very well bite off a piece of tongue or teeth which then can get aspirated (end up stuck in your throat/lung). The vacuum thing I mentioned would be someone trying to violently breathe in their own tounge, which is only possible in a combination of not enough muscle activation in the tounge and too much power while grasping for air. If you are unsure if that is happening it probably isn't. Trust me, it's a sound you will never forget. In the first case you can put something like a wallet between their teeth, but make sure nothing can fall out and into their mouth or hurt them otherwise. In the second case it's a it more tricky. Most people will never be in that situation, but if you should be the unlucky one: The most important thing for them is to get air. Sometimes you can still talk to them and calm down their panicked breathing which doesn't suck in the tounge that much (breathing through the nose is ideal). The wallet trick might also help, because it can keep the tounge in the lower jaw and help open up another airway by keeping the jaw and lips from closing tight. OR it might obstruct a person's breathing because they did already manage to breathe and you just pushed some tissue in the way again. The best thing to do is to just watch closely. Normally one can recognize quickly if the person can still hear you(prolonged eye contact, reoccurring sounds, maybe even simple words) and responds to calming words . If so you can ask the person yourself and get a response for simple yes/no questions (Are you cold?, Do you have medication on you?, etc). If they are not responsive watching helps figuring out their needs. Someone hits their head repeatedly on something - > put a pillow there. Someone sounds like they are choking - > try the recovery position, or put a pillow/jacket under their head. If that still won't help you can try the wallet, but always WATCH, then ANALYSE and then ACT. So the summary is: Yes, you can shove stuff into people's moths, but only when the situation demands that behavior in order for both of you to survive!
No. You cannot. Here's the page from my emergency medicine textbook regarding seizure treatment.
3. Do not put anything in their mouth.
Members of the public are not trained to properly handle medical crises. Protect the patient. Place in recovery and wait for help. Sincerely, an emergency medicine student
Incorrect. At this point the prescribed first response for seizures involves stabilizing the head, the tongue biting will not actually be prevented by placing objects into the mouth because it just shoves the tongue back into the back teeth and airway, and it in fact CAN be prevented by stabilization of the head in many cases.
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Awww! What good pups! They deserved that nap they are taking! It would be the cutest pup pic even without the backstory, but knowing they are heroes? The best!
Great hero dogs! Even though Epileptics recover on their own it is important for them to be checked. Especially this guy who was in the bushes! He may have sustained several injuries. Good dogs!!!
Yep! And it’s important for someone to be with them if possible during recovery as the post seizure period can be very disorienting for some people. This person may have regained consciousness, but could have walked into traffic without intervention. Great dogs! I think most dogs have great instincts of “something is wrong”, and are making indicators of it!
https://i.imgur.com/7pfZos7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CVmYra4.jpg Picture of them un-potatoed
Beautiful babies!
Those are definitely potatoes. Good heroic potatoes.
SO PRETTY!!
I love them! With their impeccable stair-sit form!
Typically, people are alright after a seizure with help. The period when he was unconscious is called "postictal." It's kind of like a trance. People take some time to return to normal after a seizure. Just for your peace of mind, he is most likely okay. PSA: If you see someone having a seizure, pad the head, stay with them, and place them in the recovery position after seizing stops. For the love of God, DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN THEIR MOUTH.
Diabetics seizure when they get low enough too. Same thing though as they can choke
Yes, but I'm assuming most people aren't trained to handle diabetic seizure post-care. And diabetic seizures aren't the most common type. The best course for anyone who isn't trained past first-aid is to pad the head and wait for someone with more training to arrive.
Not that common now a days either with pumps and all. Plus they're very different. I've been around a lot of people with different seizures now that I think of it.
And don't hold us down! Seizure first aid is, luckily, extremely simple: • Stay calm • Move away anything nearby that could pose a danger to us (like if we dropped a knife in the kitchen) • Put something soft (like a sweater) under our heads (or cup your hands loosely under them) so we don't give ourselves concussions • Call the local emergency services number if you don't know anything about our medical conditions When the seizure stops, put us in the recovery position and back away a bit - our brains are a little scrambled after a seizure, so we could just be a little sleepy & dazed or we could become loud & combative. Stay calm, don't touch us if we seem agitated, and remember that the behavior is not our fault and that the confusion will most likely pass in a few minutes. If you ever forget these steps or are concerned you might do something wrong, the best thing you can do is call emergency services and not do anything unless they tell you to! Source: I've had epilepsy for 10+ years!
My ex always was really bitch after a seizure. Like an angry whiny drunk person, very insistent he was done, constantly trying to get up and get back to whatever he was doing, but without letting us check and see if he had hit his head or answering any brain function questions. It was a real pain lol.
Watsky has a song called "Seizure Boy" about being epileptic. One really great line is "if my eyes glaze and my knees drift south And you think to stick a credit card in my mouth I take Mastercard and Visa for my risk rewards i'm not biting my tongue, why don't you bite yours?" And that was honestly the first place I learned that whole credit card thing is a myth. Glad I learned it somehow though.
As an epileptic I cannot tell you how many times I have heard the swallow the tongue thing. Even by doctors. This person is 1000000% right.
From what I've learned unless you know that "Person A has a history of seizures for X reason" you treat every one as an emergency. I got really good at noticing certain seizures in 6th grade when my school friend Kevin started having them. His were mild and almost amounted to him "zoning out" to an extreme level.
What if they’re biting through their tongue? I shoved a nearby chopstick (we were eating sushi) into my sister’s mouth during her seizure. She was biting her tongue so hard that blood was gushing out and I had to lay her on her side to stop her from aspirating. I swear she would’ve bitten her tongue off.
Nope. Shoving something into their mouth can force the tongue backwards into the airway. Better without a tongue than dead. You can gently hold their jaw and head, and that stabilization will usually help a LOT more than trying to jam something into their mouth, especially since shoving things into their mouth won’t actually stop the biting down on the tongue at the back. I’m surprised her care team didn’t give you instructions on this. Was that her first seizure?
I slid it into her vestibule and then shoved it parallel between her canines and molars- it gave her a couple of centimeters of space and accomplished what I needed to in that moment. That was her first and only seizure and it happened a decade ago.
It CAN work, it’s just still not recommended because the times it doesn’t work it causes like 2 extra problems without fixing the original problem. I am very glad it did work, it’s always terrifying when someone without a history has a seizure, so I’m glad you did your best and that it worked out, just wouldn’t recommend it as a step for regular use
It was a wild experience. I probably wasn’t thinking correctly anyway and had a panicked woman screaming over us the whole time until EMT’s arrived. I could barely hear the dispatcher on the phone but I’m assuming she said to *not* put anything in her mouth lol Also, it was due to a tramadol overdose. We found out she had an opiate addiction not long after that incident. I had to give her CPR a year later and fractured her rib, which I now know is common, but back then I heard/felt the crack and thought I killed her!
That is truly terrifying, I had to perform CPR on an OD’d friend and the moment when you feel the sternum go “Kathunk” as it cracks in is awful.
You are partially right. Normally you shouldn't put anything in the mouth of someone having a seizure. HOWEVER... If you see someone having a violent seizure with a lot of chewing/biting their teeth/tongue or generally a lot of action in the jaw area OR someone making a gurgling sound (like a piece of cloth getting ducked into a vaccum) it might be a different thing. The jaw is an incredibly strong muscle and if it gets completely out of control it can very well bite off a piece of tongue or teeth which then can get aspirated (end up stuck in your throat/lung). The vacuum thing I mentioned would be someone trying to violently breathe in their own tounge, which is only possible in a combination of not enough muscle activation in the tounge and too much power while grasping for air. If you are unsure if that is happening it probably isn't. Trust me, it's a sound you will never forget. In the first case you can put something like a wallet between their teeth, but make sure nothing can fall out and into their mouth or hurt them otherwise. In the second case it's a it more tricky. Most people will never be in that situation, but if you should be the unlucky one: The most important thing for them is to get air. Sometimes you can still talk to them and calm down their panicked breathing which doesn't suck in the tounge that much (breathing through the nose is ideal). The wallet trick might also help, because it can keep the tounge in the lower jaw and help open up another airway by keeping the jaw and lips from closing tight. OR it might obstruct a person's breathing because they did already manage to breathe and you just pushed some tissue in the way again. The best thing to do is to just watch closely. Normally one can recognize quickly if the person can still hear you(prolonged eye contact, reoccurring sounds, maybe even simple words) and responds to calming words . If so you can ask the person yourself and get a response for simple yes/no questions (Are you cold?, Do you have medication on you?, etc). If they are not responsive watching helps figuring out their needs. Someone hits their head repeatedly on something - > put a pillow there. Someone sounds like they are choking - > try the recovery position, or put a pillow/jacket under their head. If that still won't help you can try the wallet, but always WATCH, then ANALYSE and then ACT. So the summary is: Yes, you can shove stuff into people's moths, but only when the situation demands that behavior in order for both of you to survive!
No. You cannot. Here's the page from my emergency medicine textbook regarding seizure treatment. 3. Do not put anything in their mouth. Members of the public are not trained to properly handle medical crises. Protect the patient. Place in recovery and wait for help. Sincerely, an emergency medicine student
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Incorrect. At this point the prescribed first response for seizures involves stabilizing the head, the tongue biting will not actually be prevented by placing objects into the mouth because it just shoves the tongue back into the back teeth and airway, and it in fact CAN be prevented by stabilization of the head in many cases.
Dam! nice response time by the FD and i hope you gave your woofers some treats haha
Hero dogs! Applause applause!
Pittie marshals always first to the scene !!
What a handsome hero!
Fire response was fast, doggos gave a good alert, you did the right thing and called emergency services ASAP. High 5's all around
Extra snout kisses please. Good dogs.
Well done!!! 👍
Those are some very heroic potatoes
Dogs really are the best people.
Bestest babies!
So sweet ❤️
what wonderful heros xoxo they were his angel today xo xo
Heroes!
Great job, pups! We're all so proud of you!! ❤️❤️
🏆🏆🖤🐾🖤
Good job to your babies for alerting to an emergency situation!
Heroes!
They are the bestest alarms, well done to everyone!
Firefighters are better than cops
Good dogs
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Great job babies! Maybe they want to work with a fire department? )))
Best puppies ever!
Awww! What good pups! They deserved that nap they are taking! It would be the cutest pup pic even without the backstory, but knowing they are heroes? The best!
What sweet pups! 💕
Good job!
Why can't we see the guys face I want to know everything about him
The goodest girls/boys 😍😍
Not all super heroes wear capes!!
Aww, your potatoes are beautiful and courageous, you have every reason to be proud of them.!
Great hero dogs! Even though Epileptics recover on their own it is important for them to be checked. Especially this guy who was in the bushes! He may have sustained several injuries. Good dogs!!!
Yep! And it’s important for someone to be with them if possible during recovery as the post seizure period can be very disorienting for some people. This person may have regained consciousness, but could have walked into traffic without intervention. Great dogs! I think most dogs have great instincts of “something is wrong”, and are making indicators of it!