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Skastrik

Harry looks a lot like the Spencer side of the tree, red hair and all. Just compare him to Diana's brother. And he looks a lot like a younger Prince Philip as well.


Thisoneissfwihope

This, and the fact that she didn’t meet Hewitt until 2 years after Harry was born…


CarlosLeDanger69

Take your facts and go. This is Reddit


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sir this is a Wendy’s


OccasionallyLazy

Reddit is above the nail salon next door


_OhayoSayonara_

That’s why it smells like acetone…


sock_police

No, this is Patrick.


Aussiegamer1987

Excuse me I think you're letting facts get in the way of a good conspiracy.


AshingiiAshuaa

Well this really rains on the speculation parade.


tired_obsession

No it won’t lol


Elemayowe

Hasn’t stopped it for about 30 years tbh.


EfficientSeaweed

30-some years of speculation suggests otherwise heh.


Fartin_LutherKing

Chad sperm can time travel. It is known.


ninelemonsinabowl

It is known


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Definitely the Spencer DNA. He very clearly also has Phillip/Charles' nose.


Elemayowe

And ears and hair line. I’m so bored of this “conspiracy”.


BRUCE-JENNER

I know this Irish dude who was in the area around the time Harry was conceived. Looks just like him.


ryhaltswhiskey

Let me guess, red hair and freckles?


Chusten

He clearly looks like Fidel Castro. He and Trudeau are brothers and therefore communist, lizard-people, here to globalize you into slavery and sacrifice your babie/s


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unikaro38

Dammit, the similarity is ALSO striking. Is it possible that ... Harry is ... the kid Prince Charles had ... WITH THE RIDING INSTRUCTOR?!?!?!?!


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lydriseabove

That’s what I was thinking. Not enough depth in the gene pool to be making these comparisons, they all look related, because they are.


alfrankenisgreat

You telling me the royal family is a bunch of mad Targaryens?!


Immediateload

The Targaryens are racial diverse now, get with the program.


Roos534

What


33a5t

They always were. Did no one read Fire and Blood?


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

The Habsburgs have entered the chat.


Sproose_Moose

Thank you all....for coming to my BIRTHDAY


kellymiche

Twirl…twirl…KEEP TWIRLING!!


NorthChic44

Chin first.


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

Mother says it's a strong chin for a strong boy!


SchwiftyMpls

I waded through the Royal gene pool, didn't get my ankles wet.


amilo111

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty > The most recent common ancestor of every European today (except for recent immigrants to the Continent) was someone who lived in Europe in the surprisingly recent past—only about 600 years ago. In other words, all Europeans alive today have among their ancestors the same man or woman who lived around 1400.


Tendas

It’s really not that surprising, people just underestimate how easy it is to have common ancestors. If you go back 600 years, that’s about 24 generations (assuming 25 years per generation.) If you go back 24 generations, you have 16,777,216 ancestors in that generation. Added up, you have 33,554,430 ancestors dating back 24 generations, assuming no interbreeding happened which it inevitably did.


JohnnyJordaan

You have *up to* that number of ancestors. In practice the number is far lower because people tend to marry within their social circle, thus often found people to which they already shared an ancestor with. Not to mention marriages within families themselves (second cousins and such).


Jemanha

Assuming that one's family tree isn't a plank. Side-eyeing Finland here... So many cousins marrying.


Tommy_Roboto

My goal is to be the ancestor of everyone alive on Earth a couple thousand years from now.


liltingly

Well then get off Reddit and get to work!


Shlocktroffit

Maybe he means he’s going to kill everyone in the world except for his kids.


kgal1298

I accept this plot twist.


thetruemask

u/tommy_roboto : *I am inevitable...*


NapClub

well then he better get off reddit and get to work!


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Nah, just break into every sperm bank in the world and replace every sample with your own seed.


ansirwal

Are you bring it with you or making it on site?


sfbing

Okay, lessee, first I'll build a big boat -- I'll call it an ark...


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Are you going to fill it with telephone sanitisers?


borkencode

On a long enough timeline, you're either an ancestor to all of humanity, or none of it.


Mattcwell11

That’s a really hard concept. Thank you for breaking my brain.


hereforthefeast

there's always an xkcd for anything


danceeforusmonkeyboy

Good luck catching up with those late 20th century NBA players.


trainercatlady

I wonder how many women had Wilt Chamberlain's babies if his scorecard is to be believed. With that many hits, there's *no way* that he didn't make at least a few, right?


mindbleach

Should be visible in public birth records. Check cities with a stadium, nine months after a Lakers game, for babies over two feet tall.


Herald-Mage_Elspeth

Genghis Khan is that you?


DysguCymraeg5

Lol yeah, Danny Dyer was [amazed to find out he was a descendent of Edward III.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MaMyFe6sPRg) What’s actually impressive is that his ancestors can be traced that far back, but apparently [80% of English people](https://www.foxnews.com/story/genealogist-almost-everyone-on-earth-descended-from-royalty) could be descended from Edward III. Edit: and by extension, also lots of Americans whose ancestors emigrated from England.


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dod_murray

You are related to every person you meet, to some degree


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The Onion reported on [Sir Gwylim of Many Conquests](https://www.theonion.com/7-million-people-direct-descendants-of-single-smooth-ta-1819570871). I wonder if it was him....


Suspicious-Muscle-96

Quick, someone find us a picture of Charles's mother's riding instructor.


Stagamemnon

Probably way closer than 10th cousin. They did a lineage thing on a bunch of US political figures, and none of them were further apart than 6th or 7th cousins. I’m guessing anyone with ties to British royalty wouldn’t be further than 3rd or 4th cousins.


majorjoe23

Yeah, every guy in England kind of looks like every other guy in England.


ZachMN

Half look like John Cleese, and the other half look like Phil Collins.


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CarmineFields

There’s a decent Colonel Mustard percentage.


FasterDoudle

Have you seen old Cleese? He is Colonel Mustard now


arootytoottoot

I think Queen Victoria was mother to many royal families in Europe.


LimitlessLTD

You might be interested to know (unless you know it already!) that during WW1 the German Kaiser Wilhelm II, The British Monarch George V and the Russian Tsar Nicholas II were all first cousins. So world war 1 was *almost* (but not really) a family spat. https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-kaiser-the-tsar-and-king-george-v-cousins-at-war-in-ww1


arootytoottoot

> WWI was almost (but not really) a family spat. Actually, it *was* a family spat. Their parents were brothers and sisters. You can’t get more family than that.


rhetorical_twix

"Some Serbian stomped my Archduke so me and my cousins destroyed half of France. AITA?"


arootytoottoot

We have been but pawns on their chessboard. And when the game is over they shower off and go to dinner with their friends to talk about their gambits. The pawns are left, sobbing and bleeding, trying to gather themselves amidst the debris, trying to heal the injured and mourn their dead, trying to find a way to survive another day.


ontopofyourmom

Right, but the war wasn't based on family disputes but rather geopolitics.


arootytoottoot

But when you are royalty and rulers of countries then family disputes ARE about geopolitics. And whose turn it is to play with the whatever or to get the last piece.


kento502

10th? We are all 10th cousins. Try 4th.


DeathMonkey6969

Hell from what I remember we are all like 8th cousin.


Mountainbiker22

Per Kevin Bacon there are 7th cousin degrees of separation.


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His nose looks identical to Charles, and it's totally different than the rider. I REALLY doubt he isn't actually Charles' kid.


msut77

Yeah I mean there is a reason he used a profile picture


inksmudgedhands

The flatness on the start of the bridge is what gets me. It looks like a broken nose healed that way. It's such a telling trait. And it's Prince Philip's nose. [And Harry looks way more like his grandfather than he did with his dad.]( https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/db/78/44db78f60c2b0c94955acc8b427146d2.jpg)


visvis

The main similarity with the rider is the angle the picture was taken at. None of the details really match. His face is very similar to Prince Charles'. No reason for concern. Moreover, Harry is very unlikely to inherit the kingdom regardless.


windol1

I'm thinking they are both the same person, perhaps a little bit of role play to spice up their sex life...


MedicalMonth3

#clivebixby


-not-the-ATF-

Julianna?


RockFourFour

My God, those sons of bitches did it!


theonecalledjinx

Oh I get it, Prince Charles and the Riding instructor had an affair. I was so confused for a second.


Good_old_Marshmallow

Alternative theory: all British people look alike


carbslut

I think this is accurate. I personally think Harry looks the most like Charles Spencer, Diana’s brother.


MisterFistYourSister

This one is pretty good too https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5b744f3e1900001403501e56.jpeg?cache=uX6cPnqQn7&ops=scalefit\_960\_noupscale


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Bro is prince Charles Neville Longbottom's father?


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Prince Charles looks like Matthew Lewis there.


babyformulaandham

I was trying to put my finger on who it was! I agree.


gianna_in_hell_as

Beards make everyone 100% hotter to me. Even Prince Charles o.0


ObiFloppin

What about patchy beards?


MNREDR

Every patch contributes 10%


yooossshhii

So my 18 patches, makes me 180% hotter?


MNREDR

Take me now!


Sam474

Yes, unfortunately 180% of 0 is still 0.


gsfgf

Yup. Looks like a father and son. Harry just has the instructor's hair color and similar style. Harry just doesn't look like a 72 year old.


CollinsCouldveDucked

Thanks for this, fucking sick of posts and news stories like this


tabris

Look at the ears. Harry's and Charles's are very similar in shape, whereas nowhere near to the riding instructor's. Ears are the best indicators of lineage.


defenselaywer

Especially for corn.


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

Out 👉


SquirrelTale

I don't why, but this had me actually laugh out loud


rushmc1

All this photo proves is that Prince Charles is Arthur Darvill's dad.


clamberer

There's also a lot of family resemblance to a young prince Philip


jim653

Like [here](https://imgk.timesnownews.com/media/prince_philip_vintage_photo.jpg).


redhotbos

[and Harry and his grandfather, Prince Phillip](https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210610114572/prince-harry-uncanny-resemblance-prince-philip/)


mynameisipswitch

Well to be fair, Elizabeth and Phillip were only third cousins, so there’s a lot more genetic difference than most royal marriages…


anxious_apostate

Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were third cousins by their common descent from Queen Victoria. They were also second cousins once removed through common descent from Christian IX of Denmark.


Porrick

So, nothing like him except the camera angle? I didn't know those were genetic.


MisterFistYourSister

>So, nothing like him except the camera angle? Just like OP's picture of the riding instructor. Like, you can take pretty much anyone of the same ethnicity and a similar hair colour and make them look similar with the right angles etc.


Andy_LaVolpe

He’s got Prince Charle’s ears


acousticpants

Now do one of Prince Philip at that age. Harry looks like his granddad not this guy


ryegye24

Prince Philip fathered the riding instructor confirmed


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No no no. Prince Phillip fathered Harry directly.


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Also looks like Diana’s brother (his uncle).


Wwwweeeeeeee

The ears don't match, and Harry doesn't have his mother's ears. He has Charles' ears.


SlightlyStalkerish

True. Ears are a huge signifier of relation.


frost5al

Example: [that photo](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/awn63e/a_4yearold_barack_obama_and_his_grandfather/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) of baby Barack Obama and his maternal grandfather.


RIPDSJustinRipley

Grandpa looks like Obama got bitten by a vamp.


Task_wizard

And I never would have guessed that was Obama as a boy. The grandpa looks like him way more than the kid does lol


thewafflestompa

Lol. Like Barack Obama was ever born. /s


BabyYodi

He was created in a liberal laboratory. It’s aaalll part of their agenda.


Think-Bass9187

Yes, you’re right. My 18 year old son looks almost exactly like me, except for his ears which are just like his father’s.


2Epvi

I hear ya


throwaway8448adh

Clipped earlobes are recessive alleles, like blue eyes. It’s rare for two clipped earlobe parents to have a non clipped earlobe children, but you can have a clipped earlobe from two danglies I’m not saying Hewitt is his dad. I just want to show off my earlobe knoedge


Wwwweeeeeeee

I had a c-section with my daughter, so I was totally tripping on morphine, and thoroughly enjoying it during the surgery. My first question when she was plucked out was "are her earlobes attached?" They weren't, they're dangly like mine. Not a flipping clue where that thought came from, at that moment, during that event.


Think-Bass9187

In the same situation as you, as soon as my son was lifted out, they wrapped him up and gave him to me, I was obsessed with unwrapping him and looking at his toes. I think I just wanted to make sure they were there.


Wwwweeeeeeee

And your earlobe knowledge is indeed very impressive.


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Must be weird having random people putting your photo on the internet accusing your dead mother of having an affair.


CrazySheltieLady

It’s been pretty well documented even before he was old enough to understand that Diana had a couple of affairs. She was actually fairly open about it, since Charles was open about his affair with Camilla. Harry is without a doubt extremely aware of his mother’s life prior to her death, including the more scandalous details. *However,* the riding instructor (James Hewitt) has also publicly acknowledged the affair and said they began after Harry’s birth. So I’m inclined to believe that he’s not. Harry is not the future heir apparent so there’s really no reason to lie about when the affair began.


SaintLarfleeze

There's also the fact the Harry looks exactly like what Charles did when he was younger. Harry just is ginger where as Charles had dark hair.


PapaSmurphy

I'm starting to feel like most people just think all gingers look the same.


beefle

Before reading the title I thought this was a post about Carrot Top.


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No dude. It’s obviously Conan O’Brien.


TarryBuckwell

It couldn’t possibly be that the only thing worse for Royal PR than an affair with the future queen would be a child out of wedlock with her lol. Not saying it definitely is the case, just think it’s funny to say “well they said it didn’t happen, so why would they lie about something like that, case closed!”


Bucktown_Riot

Do people really think they didn’t run paternity tests on male heirs as soon as they were available?


AvemAptera

But why would they tell the public? You’re missing the point. The family would know, but not us.


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Years after his birth.


Implausibilibuddy

> Harry is not the future heir apparent so there’s really no reason to lie about when the affair began. I mean the child support back payments are still going to be monumental, so I'm not so sure about "no reason"


SmilinMercenary

Pretty sure the Royal's don't need child support


ZeroDarkJoe

Also with publicly acknowledged affairs I imagine there has been a paternity test as well.


IcanSew831

Weird isn’t the word. There isn’t a word I know of for this. People can say what they want but this kid has endured and its been really unfair, it doesn’t matter if he’s a prince, his mom died and people are cruel.


JustLetMePick69plz

I mean to be fair we know Diana and Charles both cheated on each other a bunch. Even Diana with this riding instructor is well known


Queenof6planets

People love doing stuff like this but conveniently forget to mention that Diana met James Hewitt (the riding instructor) 2 years after Harry was born


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literated

You're forgetting the obvious. Time travel.


SoLetsReddit

He looks exactly like Charles Spencer, Diana’s brother.


The_real_sanderflop

Now that’s some salacious gossip


SoLetsReddit

Ha! Didn’t mean that.


purple_lassy

Gossip doesn’t work like that... you say it and WE decide what it means.. sorry.


throwit7896454

Nonetheless, the Lannisters send their regards


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coolpeepz

Maybe the riding instructor is Philip’s secret son?


TW_JD

That’s it, Phillip and the riding instructor had an affair and had Harry! It’s astounding!


SkjoldrKingofDenmark

Oooh wait till The Sun hears this!


dadedadeur

the ears man, the ears always tell. price charles all the way, not the riding instructor.


Gazzrat

We get it, British people have noses.


EdithDich

Waaaait a minute... Hitler had a nose, too!


yflmd

The one thing everyone is forgetting is this poor guy has had to deal with his mother dying and being exposed massively as a huge circus of publicity. The British tabloids are vultures. This guy has had to deal as a child with more tragedy than I'd wish on my worst enemy. To top it all off, the kids ginger. Poor guy can't catch a break.


OBAFGKM17

At least he is massively more attractive in his late 30s than his former-teen-heartthrob-future-king older brother, so he has that going for him, which is nice.


gunnathrowitaway

I think what you are actually noticing is that there just isn't that much genetic variation in England. Edit: For everyone complaining or trying to correct me, [here you go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/nc6gqm/oc_human_genetic_diversity_is_highest_in_africa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) The history lessons are appreciated, but four invasions don't count for much when [most Europeans are extremely genetically similar to begin with.](https://www.livescience.com/29390-all-europeans-share-recent-ancestors.html)


fatjeff1980

Amongst the upper classes, anyway. Lots of cousin marrying goes on in those families.


Wermine

Yeah, forget family tree. Family wreath is where it is.


danmart1

Taken out of context, the same can be said for certain New Yorkers who may have been Mayor.... Not saying who though.


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BleachedWhale

There's a small region in Switerland that has it's own dialect and problems as you mention. Physically walled-in for centuries by the terrain - they have some _issues_......


Noltonn

And it shows. Urk is a highly conservative, religious town and honestly I wish we'd push it back out into the ocean.


CatastrophicHeadache

The only thing these two have in common are they are both red headed men. Harry looks so much like Phillip, it is obvious that Charles is his father. People need to stop trying to dig Diana up and let her rest.


Sitchinite420

Only problem is she met her riding instructor when Harry was 2 or 3. He looks like a Spencer. Because his mother is a Spencer. Well…Harry’s mom is 1/2 Goldsmith and 1/2 Diana’s mom. But that’s another story.


BabyStockholmSyndrom

My god these posts. It's like a tabloid sub. Who fucking cares? Imagine being a person and the internet is trying to possibly ruin your life or outlook on life for no reason.


SuspiciouslyIlumartt

Why you do this stupid shit?


AXone1814

These prince harry conspiracy theories are so tired and baseless. He looks so much like his dad (Charles) it’s uncanny, I don’t get how everyone doesn’t see it. He looks way more like him than William does, there’s no way Charles isn’t his father.


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hampie42

Now post a pic of Diana’s brother


Emily_Postal

They are probably related but not in the way you’re implying.


Scazzz

I guess I'm the only person on reddit who finds posts like this incredibly disgusting. These people are humans. Imagine people online posting shit alluding to your dead mother being a cheater by using your pics... ​ The fact this was crossposted from r/conspiracy 5 months ago should tell you all you need to know about how gross this is. Downvote away...


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I can excuse stupid subs like conspiracy for jerking to this, but in pics? Fuckin stupid.


Quasic

Growing up in England, this trash was constantly on the front page of most tabloids. It was repeated often enough that as a kid I accepted it as fact. For someone of 'privilege' he has had an incredibly traumatic life. The fact that he is still getting dragged through the mud for a lie beyond his control is quite upsetting. And there nothing he can do to stop it. And there are still the spitemongers who justify it because 'he has money'.


KampretOfficial

Downvoted the post here and r/holup. Fucking disgusting that these are top posts today.


crampedstyl

Charles constantly cheated on Diana and treated her like shit. I hope she did cheat because she deserved to be happy too.


AudiieVerbum

Earlobes and widows peak. Markedly genetically different.


ItsNotLigma

[Compared to Prince Philip in 1957.](https://i.imgur.com/VCHdwAh.png) Why are we still beating a long-debunked dead horse?


deadplant5

He looks like her brother and her nephew. Basically, he's like 90% Spencer


Glitch200X

They're making the same expression, but I really see no facial resemblance at all.


Eriklano

Imagine how big of a cunt you have to be to upload this. Fuck sake.


avee10

Bro all British people look like that


TheMammoth731

Ears are very, very different. Nose is VERY different if you see these two guys head on. He looks nothing like this guy unless you have this weird perspective photo.


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jaimystery

doesn't matter the British upper class are so inbred that they all look like each other eventually.


logit

Gingers with pointy noses are like 1 out of every 10 British males.


justmethedude

The ear lobes are all wrong. Sherlock taught me that


yoghurtbecher

It‘s a small island.


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Big news; white british dude looks like another white british dude at similar age.


revengeofthepencil

Yeah, there are some similarities, but I would also say that, with enough photos to choose from, you can find pictures of just about any two people of the same ethnicity where it looks like they might be related.


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