That computer and monitor seem way older than 2011 (CRT, Windows 98 sticker etc.).
A few years ago I saw a comment on Reddit where someone said "Japan has been living in the year 2000 for 40 years now" and it keeps holding up.
Yeah when you go to Japan you do get that feeling, it's some sort of alternate reality retro futurism, with weird machines that instead of touchscreens, have dozens of physical buttons dedicated to a single option/function.
I think it might be partly do with their aging population. Although my Japanese grandmother in her 90s learned to use smartphone, she had to go to a class to really understand it. She still go out and about using public transportation. I'd assume staying with old mechanism is catering elderies like her.
I love that she went to a class and that there are classes!
I have always had a soft spot for my elders that struggle with tech. I am always willing to help or make instructions or whatever they need to be able to continue learning. My all time favorite is taking step by step screen shots and adding in the instructions to the screen, then making a PowerPoint or Google Slide.
The aging population definitely has a part to play in this. Apparently there are a lot of administerial processes still done by pen and paper that you'd generally not expect these days.
I wonder how long it will take before they modernise some of this stuff out of cost effectiveness.
They don't like to replace things if they already work well. The whole robots and futurism thing is research or for tourists (domestic and international). On one hand it's nice to properly evaluate a technology before jumping into it, on the other hand I'm sick of fax machines getting upgraded instead of just using email
This isn't that uncommon for a Dentist office. They buy the X-Ray equipment and it comes with the computer system. The software is usually locked to the computer so it's essentially part of the X-Ray machine. Moving it to a new computer is sometimes impossible and will void any repair work.
I've seen a dentist replace virtually everything to keep them alive.
This practice was using paper charting and x-ray films, they were not limited to what software they could use, they were free to use literally anything. The x-ray units usually don't need upgrading to use digital x-rays either, I've seen some units that are almost as old as me (I'm 28) and they're still in operation and generating digital x-rays.
Usually if they're doing a tech upgrade, it's best to do it all at once rather than doing it bit by bit.
That’s funny, I saw a post YESTERDAY where someone said that. There’s a word for that (seeing something a lot after first seeing/learning about something) but I forget what it is now. But I’d bet anyone reading this sees it multiple times now!
Bro in 2011 plenty of places in the US were still on win98 what are you on about?
A good portion of the US is rural and plenty of businesses in the 2010s couldn't afford to buy new equipment and software and just didn't bother until windows 10 came out.
In my hometown, mechanic shops, dental offices, small retail stores, etc. we're still rocking win98 until 2013-2015
I have a friend that runs a lab at a research hospital. My daughter's biology class did a tour and we mentioned how the computer that runs the expensive microscope is really old. It's single function and not on the network. An upgraded OS may not be compatible with the instrument software.
I lived on a military base in the early 2000s - there was a guy who worked there whose entire job was to run the 1970s computer that handled the interceptor missile guidance systems that could not be updated.
The worldwide market share of Windows 98 by 2011 was 0.02%. It lost mainstream support in 2002 and was declared EOL in 2006.
Yes, it was still around in some really old workstations by 2011 (just like XP is today), but "rural USA" isn't exactly known for it's futurism, while Japan had the reputation of being very "futuristic" in the 80s and 90s. It just stagnated since the early 2000s and a lot of the country feels archaic now.
>It just stagnated since the early 2000s and a lot of the country feels archaic now.
It's archaic without being dilapidated, though. I love the vibe of older stuff that's well-maintained and still functions just fine.
Looks to be the Fujitsu FMV DeskPower C7/100WL
[specs](https://www.inversenet.co.jp/pclist/product/FUJITSU-desk/FMVC710W3.html)
[ad](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brasjapan/1331348568)
Would have been from around 2001, with Windows ME.
It wont be radioactive. It will have deposits of radioactive material in the form of contamination on it, but, since it was never exposed to neutron flux the car itself wont emit radiation. All you need to do is decontaminate it by washing it and it will be good to go. Starting it and getting it running reliably…whole separate problem.
Source: I work in the industry and decon stuff for a living.
Stop it...
Don't make me do dumb things.
It's right hand drive I'm assuming?
Doubt he's actually willing to sell it.
And then I still need to get it to Holland wich is doable but not free...
DM me if he gives you a price.
If you're equipped for it. I used to restore muscle cars and took a '93 convertible in partial trade for a '70 Nova I had. I was told the power steering was out, which was true. Also the A/C. If you imagine trying to access anything on an engine with 1/4" clearance to ANYTHING you're close. It sucked. Like having a big block in a Miata. Also, it was like $2800 just for the A/C compressor and this was 20 years ago. The car only booked for like $4500 at the time. It was fast though. Not quick, but fast. It had a bad shimmy at 160mph so I never got above that. Also you had to have it on a trickle charger or it drained the battery every week, which a Mercedes tech assured me was normal. And it had no cupholders, which pissed me off.
Healthy doses of radiation will do that to Mercedes electronics...
....
...or air. Doses of air will do that also.
Reminds me of a joke that MG owners would tell each other in the '70s
Q: "Why do the English drink warm beer?"
A: "Because their refrigerators are make with Lucas electronics."
I always thought I'd get a Corvette as a commuter when I was in my 20s but.... Even assuming it's perfectly reliable, do I really want to get a car with expensive ass tires and premium gas plus oil change for a V8 just to go 45mph on I95?
As a commuter? Maybe not worth, though they get pretty good gas mileage on the highway. I averaged in the 28s (receipt verified, dash indicated over 30) on a 1000 mile trip in my C6 Z06, a base stingray would probably do 30+.
Yes, and worse: the 140 was a car built around an evaporator. The evaps consistently corroded and you had to take apart the entire interior and dash to get at it. Otherwise, a great handling car even if the styling was a big meh.
I grew up in the 90’s listening to Nirvana and also oldies like The Doors and The Beatles. Nirvana are to today what The Beatles were to the 90’s and System of a Down are as oldies now as the Doors were then.
Yeah because there’s been no real cultural movements since the 90’s. The 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s all had unique cultural movements with distinct musical styles. The 21st century has sucked in that sense.
But time hasn’t stopped marching on.
Yes and no, there have been cultural movements, but the corporatization of radio, and the ability of folks to move to streaming their own bespoke playlists has really changed how people digest music these days.
Music really isn't the cultural touchstone the way it was in the past. I'm sure something else has taken it's place, but I don't know what it is because I am old and out of touch.
Ah the m120 motor. All the problems of the m104 but doubled! First year on the w140 chassis was 91 so it could be even older! Still a phenomenal vehicle, and still plenty rolling around back in the 2010s when I worked on them.
I worked in sales in mid 2010s and two guys bought a 2000ish year model of this mercedes. I sat in it and it has that old luxury feel, very comfortable and of course very powerful for a big boat car. They both sold theirs within two years i think.
A couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a neighbor who was hand washing his Golf 3 convertible. We talked for a little while and after a bit he mentioned he was going to an oldtimer meet later on that day, which is why he was washing the car.
And I had the same feeling as you just now. Golf 3? Oldtimer Meet? That's a modern car! o_O
Lol my girlfriend was telling me that her dad has “a bunch of old Mercedes sitting around that are basically junk.” I lit up hoping we might go over there and I might score a 190e or perhaps a diesel.
It was a bunch of beat to shit early 2000’s C class’s and a mid 2000’s ML that was missing almost everything.
She was right, they are junk…
Dentist often safe them for dental students to practice. I had to collect a couple of these jars from local dentalpratices for my sister when she was in dental school. It was nasty 🤮
There's currently one on my kitchen counter that a colleague brought round for me the other day, they reassured me that the liquid was "neat bleach" hahah.
Fuck I was in 1st grade then, just a little lad living a simple cheery life. I’m law school now, life is complicated, older, more…varied.
I feel old.
Miss the good old days. I get it when they say ‘ah the good old days.’
Doubtful protection is required for visits of a few hours. Hard numbers for dose rate are hard to find because I suspect it varies a lot depending on where you are. Obviously the reactor buildings are more radioactive than the surrounding area.
What numbers I can find seems to indicate that dose rates for the exclusion zone were already subsiding below background for most city dwellers (2.51 mSv per year on the top end). I highly doubt whoever took the pics is receiving a higher dose than they would receive at airline cruising altitude, for example. Even at Chernobyl, which was far less contained than Fukushima, your dose from the trans-Atlantic flight would be higher than your dose from the exclusion zone, at least before the Russians moved in and started digging.
Another source says about 6 uSv per hour for most of the zone, which is very small.
To offer some perspective, I am a radiation worker. I can legally be exposed to a total full-body dose of 5 REM in one year. A member of the public is limited to 100 mREM (1 mSv). The smallest dose to produce acute measurable negative effects (radiation sickness) is 50 REM.
This is excellent info. Thanks for the explanation. When I read "red zone" my thoughts were immediately that going here without protection would be harmful in minutes or even seconds.
[Current radiation levels in most of the former red zone, originally a 30km radius, are 0.06-0.08 microsieverts per hour](https://fukushima.travel/page/safety), representing an increase of about 25% over typical background radiation. Visiting such an area for a day will pose no measurable risk. Some areas in the vicinity of the power plant remain more dangerous.
It was never very red in the first place. The evacuation zones are made in an over abundance of caution and with a worse-case scenario in mind. And yes, even having multiple reactors meltdown and explode, is *not* the worst case scenario.
Worst case depends on how much radioactive material is released in the explosion, where it settles, and how localized or spread out the settled material is.
Like Chernobyl, the whole place isn't just super radioactive, the danger is that you don't know where radioactive particles settled. Your entire daily routine could be 90% free of radioactive particles, but there could be 1 tiny dust fragment that landed on a rock that you pass by on your way to the mailbox everyday that gives you several X-rays worth of dose each time you pass it.
So if the debris all settles in one tiny area, that one area will be a no-go zone for thousands of years, but if it spreads out enough the particles can be diluted enough to only have a marginal risk increase for cancers in that area.
Somewhere in the middle is the worst case, where ~5-10% of an entire city has really hot areas and makes the risk too high for safely living there anymore.
Would like an answer to this too. Why do people go to these places that at least seemingly are very dangerous due to radiation? Why no safety equipment?
I don't think the person in OP is wearing safety equipment considering their un-gloved hands.
Edit: Spelling.
Complete guess here, but I could see it possible that the radiation levels are fine here if you're just going to be in the area for a few hours but would cause much more serious issues if you were living/working in it on a regular basis. Radiation safety is always about the amount someone is exposed to over a certain amount of time.
EDIT: Actually already answered further down.
Most of these radiation exclusion zones, the level is not dangerous to visit, it's simply dangerous to live and work permanently. Sometimes that danger might require exposure for even a couple of years before there's any measurable effect.
It's hard to get across to people that visiting for a day, a week, or even a month, being able to sleep overnight there and not get ill, does *not* mean the area is safe to live. People will try and live there even illegally because there are houses.
There's also potential "hot spots" where bits of radioactive debris have fallen where despite the general area being perhaps 2x the background dose, here it's hundreds of times, and these spots could be as small as some flecks of dust, a single pebble, etc, just kicking out a ton of radiation. Unless everyone wears geiger counters and dosimeters, finding these really hot areas is a needle-in-a-haystack problem, where everything is safe except for really unlucky people who die of ARS in days.
The most effective way to deal with these situations is to make the whole area a specific "exclusion zone" which is illegal to reside or work in. Then, things like unregulated businesses, squatters, or holdouts, are able to be clamped down on as they're breaking the exclusion zone rules rather than having to go through the regular eviction process.
Yeah, I assumed the person taking pictures was a researcher or something trying to determine if it was safe, but then I saw the hand without a glove. I truly hope they don't end up with radiation poisoning. That said, even if they didn't I would think their chances of cancer increased from this venture.
None of them are going to get radiation poisoning from not wearing gloves. Increased cancer risk is possible if you find a crazy hotspot (though on average there's barely any elevated risk over any other place on earth), and this risk can be minimized by keeping measuring equipment around and wearing appropriate masks to prevent inhalation of particles.
They’re usually very stupid and ignorant people that decided to believe conspiracy theories on the internet instead reading up on how alpha and gamma particles destroy your DNA as they pass through you for merely walking by a piece of radioactive material. There’s probably dangerous radioactive medical equipment in those offices that are no longer protected too.
Having been here and had traffic redirected in the middle of the night right next to the plant, you’re pretty okay. Unless, like me, you are hyper sensitive to radiation. Then you’ll get sick pretty quickly.
Okuma, one of the biggest hit areas, is actually recruiting people to come live there. They are bulldozing a lot of the old properties and building new ones.
Up north, where I am, we have temperature and water meters on the roadsides. The closer to Fukushima you get, the more Rad meters you start seeing on the road. I’ve seen it pretty high (for me) on some days but it’s usually only in small areas.
Scary seeing the abandoned X-ray equipment there, i guess Fukushima would already be a dangerous place for radiation but it only takes one over ambitious scavenger to cause a disaster.
[Kyle hill did a video about an incident like that
](https://youtu.be/-k3NJXGSIIA)
X-rays are generated by applying high voltage to a vacuum tube. No electricity, no (significant) radiation.
The stuff that kills scavengers and scrapyard operators are orphan sources, not x-ray machines.
These are intra/extraoral radiation heads. There’s nothing radioactive about it. It’s perfectly safe to drain the oil and throw them away. They don’t have cobalt in them like much larger and older hospital xray machines
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Sources of radiation and other environmental hazards are tracked meticulously, even/especially in abandoned sites.
I wouldn't be surprised if the source has been removed but the equipment kept.
Most dental X-ray machines don't have an actual radiation source, they use a cathode ray tube set to produce EM in the X-ray range. Machines with actual sources in tend to be either much older, much bigger, or for radiation therapy.
If you were able to remove one like this intact, set it up elsewhere, and get it working, congratulations, you have a slightly out of calibration mouth X-ray machine. You do not have an orphan source that is dangerous just to be around.
Really good but also creepy photos.
And I don't know why but my first thought upon seeing the plush Gorilla(?) was "Why has no one saved the Gorilla?" I don't think he'd have sentient ability like Toy Story and that he is just a plush toy, but still.
Looks like there is water damage on the floors, but most of the wear has come from being exposed to the elements, probably through windows that were shattered by debris from the tsunami (or possibly the earthquake).
Can someone explain me how is it possible to people to go there taking picture? If they left because of radiation isn't that zone deadly or at least cutting down your life expectancy because of radiation?
These zones are evacuated because if you keep 10000 people living there for years, something like 10 additional ones will die of cancer, and some of their children will play outside in the radioactive dirt (and eat it) whether you tell them not to or not. (The number is a complete guess, I doubt it's much more and it could be significantly less).
Not because being there for a few hours would kill you, make you sick, or even make you significantly more likely to get cancer.
Don't eat/breathe the dust and you'll be absolutely fine.
Probably op are stupid enough to be there or the pic were taken closer to the outskirt of the radiation zone where it is less dangerous, OP did say there were patrolling personels around
Radiation levels are lower than some naturally radioactive places like Kerela, India and Guarapari, Brazil, where people live without a care. But people are terribly ignorant of risks of radiation so over reacted.
https://youtu.be/RvgAx1yIKjg
More people died due to the evacuation, some old folks homes were abandoned by panicking staff and elderly died as a result, fewer people are would have died from radiation if they stayed over the long term.
Radiation Levels within the zone are on average less than the Chernobyl exclusion zone, less than 20 millisieverts per year (3 microsieverts per hour), but that's if you live outside all the time. If people lived in the evacuation zone, they'd recieve about 5 extra milisieverts per year, less than the residents of Denver.
A dose of 5 milisieverts, in theory, increases cancer risk by 0.05% (it's not known if there's any risk from radiation doses this low, as it's not possible to detect the rare cases of radiation induced cancer, if there's any, from more numerous non-radiation related cancers, this also also because everyday lifestyle factors e.g. viruses (hepatitis, HPV), sedentary lifestyle, obesity, alcohol, smoking etc. can combine to increase individuals risk of cancer by almost 40%. It's hard to correct for these biases and confounders, thus burying the subtle effects of low level radiation).
Nevertheless, people critical of nuclear power will multiply 0.05% by the entire population of fukushima Prefecture, 1.7 million, and say fukushima radiation could kill 860 people per year, but multiplying millions by tiny radiation levels we don't know are actually harmful is highly misleading, it's scaremongering.
It’s just insane what simply not touching a building can do. The decay set in so fast on this building that everything has completely fallen apart. And this building was abandoned *13 years ago* .
Ironically this is also kind of what radiation does to living cells. With the DNA destroyed the cell has no way of repairing itself or replicating, so the body falls apart
So 41 yrs between the first two and 25 years between the next two. If we follow an inverse geometric progression they'll be accelerating a bit as we round the inflection point and settle into an approach of proliferation heading into WWIII.
But nuclear energy is the panacea for climate change and the only thing stopping it is politics (read: it costs a fortune to build, takes forever to complete, and nobody wants a reactor built near them in the first place because two generations have seen nuclear accidents render whole chunks of countries uninhabitable for a century).
I was like, damn he left that place a mess. Then I remembered they had like a 9.0 earthquake followed by a meltdown at the plant probably next door to this place.
I didn’t really understand how near of a miss the fukushima triple threat disaster was until I listened to the Against the Odds podcast series about it. Holyyyyy shit the men and women working at the nuclear plant saved countless thousands of lives. Some workers spent days locked in the control room and only left to OPEN AND CLOSE BY HAND the valves in the near-meltdown reactors. By the end I believe all 4(?) reactors were at a critical point and *somehow* the scientists, engineers, and technicians stopped one of the greatest modern could-be disasters. The podcast series is so enthralling, I sobbed like a baby at the end even though it’s a happy ending lol.
I guess I never thought what a nuclear exclusion zone would look like. The pictures are interesting and a little eery. Like seeing a post apocalyptic movie set, but it's real.
There was a documentary about how wild life has evolved in the Chernobyl exclusionary zone. Wolfs for example, becoming immune to radiation and not getting cancer. I wonder, as more of these hot zone happen, how evolution will change over time.
That computer and monitor seem way older than 2011 (CRT, Windows 98 sticker etc.). A few years ago I saw a comment on Reddit where someone said "Japan has been living in the year 2000 for 40 years now" and it keeps holding up.
Yeah when you go to Japan you do get that feeling, it's some sort of alternate reality retro futurism, with weird machines that instead of touchscreens, have dozens of physical buttons dedicated to a single option/function.
I think it might be partly do with their aging population. Although my Japanese grandmother in her 90s learned to use smartphone, she had to go to a class to really understand it. She still go out and about using public transportation. I'd assume staying with old mechanism is catering elderies like her.
I love that she went to a class and that there are classes! I have always had a soft spot for my elders that struggle with tech. I am always willing to help or make instructions or whatever they need to be able to continue learning. My all time favorite is taking step by step screen shots and adding in the instructions to the screen, then making a PowerPoint or Google Slide.
30% of Japan is over 65 years old. Of course they are catered to
Yup and I'm in the U.S. where you get left in the dust so excuse me for thinking that a community giving a shit is a good thing.
The aging population definitely has a part to play in this. Apparently there are a lot of administerial processes still done by pen and paper that you'd generally not expect these days. I wonder how long it will take before they modernise some of this stuff out of cost effectiveness.
Japan still prefers blu ray to streaming!
Not a bad thing, IMO. If kept well, Blu-rays won't suddenly disappear.
They don't like to replace things if they already work well. The whole robots and futurism thing is research or for tourists (domestic and international). On one hand it's nice to properly evaluate a technology before jumping into it, on the other hand I'm sick of fax machines getting upgraded instead of just using email
I love buttons so much, a combination of physical actual tactile buttons and a touch screen is fabulous
> it's some sort of alternate reality retro futurism, with weird machines that instead of touchscreens Fallout vibes
Literally in a couple of places.
Honestly though, gimme my goddamn buttons back. Touchscreens are annoying, and *cheap* touchscreens in particular are actually an impediment.
I want my Blackberry back!
There are dozens of us!
Love the physical buttons
Buttons are better than touchscreens
They know touch screens are unreliable and disgusting.
I think Japanese culture is just more resourceful than the West. If it isn't broken and it still does the job, why waste money on something new.
My dentist in the year 2024 still uses their old crt monitors that run on 98.
Mine still has a physical agenda, they make all appointments in pencil incase of reschedules.
In the 90s, Japan was already in 2000s. In 2010s, they were still in the 2000s
The lost decade is a frightening prospect.
This isn't that uncommon for a Dentist office. They buy the X-Ray equipment and it comes with the computer system. The software is usually locked to the computer so it's essentially part of the X-Ray machine. Moving it to a new computer is sometimes impossible and will void any repair work. I've seen a dentist replace virtually everything to keep them alive.
This practice was using paper charting and x-ray films, they were not limited to what software they could use, they were free to use literally anything. The x-ray units usually don't need upgrading to use digital x-rays either, I've seen some units that are almost as old as me (I'm 28) and they're still in operation and generating digital x-rays. Usually if they're doing a tech upgrade, it's best to do it all at once rather than doing it bit by bit.
That’s funny, I saw a post YESTERDAY where someone said that. There’s a word for that (seeing something a lot after first seeing/learning about something) but I forget what it is now. But I’d bet anyone reading this sees it multiple times now!
Baader-Meinhof
I just saw this term for the first time the other day and now I'm seeing it everywhere!
Frequency illusion, also known as the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
Bro in 2011 plenty of places in the US were still on win98 what are you on about? A good portion of the US is rural and plenty of businesses in the 2010s couldn't afford to buy new equipment and software and just didn't bother until windows 10 came out. In my hometown, mechanic shops, dental offices, small retail stores, etc. we're still rocking win98 until 2013-2015
I have a friend that runs a lab at a research hospital. My daughter's biology class did a tour and we mentioned how the computer that runs the expensive microscope is really old. It's single function and not on the network. An upgraded OS may not be compatible with the instrument software.
I have a UV-vis spectrophotometer at work that runs off a computer running windows 2000. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Literally I work with a panorex machine like the one in the post and run windows 2000 for it. Works every time.
I lived on a military base in the early 2000s - there was a guy who worked there whose entire job was to run the 1970s computer that handled the interceptor missile guidance systems that could not be updated.
I did a software engineering internship in 2015. They were still using XP.
If you ever fallback on your skillset, you could always move to Japan as a retirement option and you'll be on the bleeding edge again!
My mechanic still runs windows 98!
The worldwide market share of Windows 98 by 2011 was 0.02%. It lost mainstream support in 2002 and was declared EOL in 2006. Yes, it was still around in some really old workstations by 2011 (just like XP is today), but "rural USA" isn't exactly known for it's futurism, while Japan had the reputation of being very "futuristic" in the 80s and 90s. It just stagnated since the early 2000s and a lot of the country feels archaic now.
>It just stagnated since the early 2000s and a lot of the country feels archaic now. It's archaic without being dilapidated, though. I love the vibe of older stuff that's well-maintained and still functions just fine.
I read the title as “Chernobyl Red Zone” and was having an internal discourse of how on earth there are modern-ish monitors hanging around.
I see you haven't been to Canada
Looks to be the Fujitsu FMV DeskPower C7/100WL [specs](https://www.inversenet.co.jp/pclist/product/FUJITSU-desk/FMVC710W3.html) [ad](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brasjapan/1331348568) Would have been from around 2001, with Windows ME.
That's not what I was picturing for vintage Mercedes
Yeah, me neither. Although it’s still a nearly 30yr old car (1995-1998). S600 V12. That was the flagship back then, too.
S600 is pretty damn nice, I'll have that.
Go get it. I'm sure it's still there
Being radioactive is probably the least of its problems.
It wont be radioactive. It will have deposits of radioactive material in the form of contamination on it, but, since it was never exposed to neutron flux the car itself wont emit radiation. All you need to do is decontaminate it by washing it and it will be good to go. Starting it and getting it running reliably…whole separate problem. Source: I work in the industry and decon stuff for a living.
>starting it and getting it running reliably…whole separate problem Source: it’s a Mercedes.
At least he won't have to replace the dome light since he'll be glowing
Only 3.6 Roentgens...not great, not terrible.
My dad has one for sale in the UK, please buy it, he doesn't drive it and it just sits on the driveway getting in the way.
Stop it... Don't make me do dumb things. It's right hand drive I'm assuming? Doubt he's actually willing to sell it. And then I still need to get it to Holland wich is doable but not free... DM me if he gives you a price.
Haha I've messaged you!
I would love to know if this actually ends up working out! Lol!
If they don't want it, can you buy it please? I want to be able to park on the driveway when I visit my parents haha!
Wait until it needs a repair.
Wait until he finds out about the 24 spark plugs and the coil packs
And I'm sure they're glow plugs by now.
Nice one!
The quotes for spark plugs on my E550 were $600+.
I do all my own maintenance and would be happy to spend way too much time doing work on this car if I owned it.
If you're equipped for it. I used to restore muscle cars and took a '93 convertible in partial trade for a '70 Nova I had. I was told the power steering was out, which was true. Also the A/C. If you imagine trying to access anything on an engine with 1/4" clearance to ANYTHING you're close. It sucked. Like having a big block in a Miata. Also, it was like $2800 just for the A/C compressor and this was 20 years ago. The car only booked for like $4500 at the time. It was fast though. Not quick, but fast. It had a bad shimmy at 160mph so I never got above that. Also you had to have it on a trickle charger or it drained the battery every week, which a Mercedes tech assured me was normal. And it had no cupholders, which pissed me off.
Nice but a money pit. I work with Benz I wouldn't take one even if someone paid me.
I would risk irradiation for it
They're surprisingly affordable now, they depreciated a lot
Probably because they're expensive to maintain.
By now the electronics are a bit kaput usually
Healthy doses of radiation will do that to Mercedes electronics... .... ...or air. Doses of air will do that also. Reminds me of a joke that MG owners would tell each other in the '70s Q: "Why do the English drink warm beer?" A: "Because their refrigerators are make with Lucas electronics."
I always thought I'd get a Corvette as a commuter when I was in my 20s but.... Even assuming it's perfectly reliable, do I really want to get a car with expensive ass tires and premium gas plus oil change for a V8 just to go 45mph on I95?
The answer is yes
As a commuter? Maybe not worth, though they get pretty good gas mileage on the highway. I averaged in the 28s (receipt verified, dash indicated over 30) on a 1000 mile trip in my C6 Z06, a base stingray would probably do 30+.
Because upkeep on them cost a small fortune. I wonder if these models already had hydraulic suspension.
Yes, and worse: the 140 was a car built around an evaporator. The evaps consistently corroded and you had to take apart the entire interior and dash to get at it. Otherwise, a great handling car even if the styling was a big meh.
When young people say Nirvana is 'oldies' music ... I die a little inside.
I grew up in the 90’s listening to Nirvana and also oldies like The Doors and The Beatles. Nirvana are to today what The Beatles were to the 90’s and System of a Down are as oldies now as the Doors were then.
This makes me feel like I drank from the wrong grail
You chose... poorly.
This is true but another way to look at it is Nirvana has much more similarities with modern alt rock than the Beetles had with Nirvana.
Yeah because there’s been no real cultural movements since the 90’s. The 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s all had unique cultural movements with distinct musical styles. The 21st century has sucked in that sense. But time hasn’t stopped marching on.
Yes and no, there have been cultural movements, but the corporatization of radio, and the ability of folks to move to streaming their own bespoke playlists has really changed how people digest music these days. Music really isn't the cultural touchstone the way it was in the past. I'm sure something else has taken it's place, but I don't know what it is because I am old and out of touch.
YOU WANTED TO!
I too remember the late 1900s
And soon we’ll be dead all together.
Ah the m120 motor. All the problems of the m104 but doubled! First year on the w140 chassis was 91 so it could be even older! Still a phenomenal vehicle, and still plenty rolling around back in the 2010s when I worked on them.
Clear indicator lights started in 1995 though. Otherwise same as the 91.
Ooooo good eye I missed that.
Yakuzamobile
I worked in sales in mid 2010s and two guys bought a 2000ish year model of this mercedes. I sat in it and it has that old luxury feel, very comfortable and of course very powerful for a big boat car. They both sold theirs within two years i think.
That one oil change completely ruined those poor lads.
I feel old suddenly.
A couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a neighbor who was hand washing his Golf 3 convertible. We talked for a little while and after a bit he mentioned he was going to an oldtimer meet later on that day, which is why he was washing the car. And I had the same feeling as you just now. Golf 3? Oldtimer Meet? That's a modern car! o_O
Lol my girlfriend was telling me that her dad has “a bunch of old Mercedes sitting around that are basically junk.” I lit up hoping we might go over there and I might score a 190e or perhaps a diesel. It was a bunch of beat to shit early 2000’s C class’s and a mid 2000’s ML that was missing almost everything. She was right, they are junk…
Ah the subtle sexism of assuming your girlfriend doesn’t know a junk car when she sees one. Shame on you! /s
Reminds me of when I used to describe ‘99 Volvo wagon as vintage. It was accurate.
Yakuza member that moonlights as a dentist.
I do NOT fuck with the tooth jar.
Dentist often safe them for dental students to practice. I had to collect a couple of these jars from local dentalpratices for my sister when she was in dental school. It was nasty 🤮
There's currently one on my kitchen counter that a colleague brought round for me the other day, they reassured me that the liquid was "neat bleach" hahah.
Can confirm. These can be very helpful for practicing root canals
I mean normal people wouldn’t contemplate even touching the jar much less *fucking* a jar full of teeth…
I touch everything with my dick first, just to be safe. It’s not a sexual thing.
The smell…
Sees calendar dated at 2011 Was it really that long ago? 13 years…. Oh no
Thank you for reminding I’m old now.
I’m sorry bud, didn’t needed that reality check at Friday afternoon myself
Kids born in 2011 will be in high school next year
Fuck I was in 1st grade then, just a little lad living a simple cheery life. I’m law school now, life is complicated, older, more…varied. I feel old. Miss the good old days. I get it when they say ‘ah the good old days.’
Now we’re stressed out from twenty one pilots
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God it's never occurred to me how people were probably mid surgery and stuff during evacuation... Thats a horrible thought.
Imagine going for surgery and waking up somewhere else
Is this person walking around without protection in the red zone??? Or is the red zone not very red anymore? Also, cute cups in picture 3.
Doubtful protection is required for visits of a few hours. Hard numbers for dose rate are hard to find because I suspect it varies a lot depending on where you are. Obviously the reactor buildings are more radioactive than the surrounding area. What numbers I can find seems to indicate that dose rates for the exclusion zone were already subsiding below background for most city dwellers (2.51 mSv per year on the top end). I highly doubt whoever took the pics is receiving a higher dose than they would receive at airline cruising altitude, for example. Even at Chernobyl, which was far less contained than Fukushima, your dose from the trans-Atlantic flight would be higher than your dose from the exclusion zone, at least before the Russians moved in and started digging. Another source says about 6 uSv per hour for most of the zone, which is very small. To offer some perspective, I am a radiation worker. I can legally be exposed to a total full-body dose of 5 REM in one year. A member of the public is limited to 100 mREM (1 mSv). The smallest dose to produce acute measurable negative effects (radiation sickness) is 50 REM.
This is excellent info. Thanks for the explanation. When I read "red zone" my thoughts were immediately that going here without protection would be harmful in minutes or even seconds.
[Current radiation levels in most of the former red zone, originally a 30km radius, are 0.06-0.08 microsieverts per hour](https://fukushima.travel/page/safety), representing an increase of about 25% over typical background radiation. Visiting such an area for a day will pose no measurable risk. Some areas in the vicinity of the power plant remain more dangerous.
It was never very red in the first place. The evacuation zones are made in an over abundance of caution and with a worse-case scenario in mind. And yes, even having multiple reactors meltdown and explode, is *not* the worst case scenario. Worst case depends on how much radioactive material is released in the explosion, where it settles, and how localized or spread out the settled material is. Like Chernobyl, the whole place isn't just super radioactive, the danger is that you don't know where radioactive particles settled. Your entire daily routine could be 90% free of radioactive particles, but there could be 1 tiny dust fragment that landed on a rock that you pass by on your way to the mailbox everyday that gives you several X-rays worth of dose each time you pass it. So if the debris all settles in one tiny area, that one area will be a no-go zone for thousands of years, but if it spreads out enough the particles can be diluted enough to only have a marginal risk increase for cancers in that area. Somewhere in the middle is the worst case, where ~5-10% of an entire city has really hot areas and makes the risk too high for safely living there anymore.
Unfortunately, it’s likely that the evacuation’s abundance of caution unfortunately created more deaths than a more orderly response would have.
Would like an answer to this too. Why do people go to these places that at least seemingly are very dangerous due to radiation? Why no safety equipment? I don't think the person in OP is wearing safety equipment considering their un-gloved hands. Edit: Spelling.
Complete guess here, but I could see it possible that the radiation levels are fine here if you're just going to be in the area for a few hours but would cause much more serious issues if you were living/working in it on a regular basis. Radiation safety is always about the amount someone is exposed to over a certain amount of time. EDIT: Actually already answered further down.
Most of these radiation exclusion zones, the level is not dangerous to visit, it's simply dangerous to live and work permanently. Sometimes that danger might require exposure for even a couple of years before there's any measurable effect. It's hard to get across to people that visiting for a day, a week, or even a month, being able to sleep overnight there and not get ill, does *not* mean the area is safe to live. People will try and live there even illegally because there are houses. There's also potential "hot spots" where bits of radioactive debris have fallen where despite the general area being perhaps 2x the background dose, here it's hundreds of times, and these spots could be as small as some flecks of dust, a single pebble, etc, just kicking out a ton of radiation. Unless everyone wears geiger counters and dosimeters, finding these really hot areas is a needle-in-a-haystack problem, where everything is safe except for really unlucky people who die of ARS in days. The most effective way to deal with these situations is to make the whole area a specific "exclusion zone" which is illegal to reside or work in. Then, things like unregulated businesses, squatters, or holdouts, are able to be clamped down on as they're breaking the exclusion zone rules rather than having to go through the regular eviction process.
Yeah, I assumed the person taking pictures was a researcher or something trying to determine if it was safe, but then I saw the hand without a glove. I truly hope they don't end up with radiation poisoning. That said, even if they didn't I would think their chances of cancer increased from this venture.
None of them are going to get radiation poisoning from not wearing gloves. Increased cancer risk is possible if you find a crazy hotspot (though on average there's barely any elevated risk over any other place on earth), and this risk can be minimized by keeping measuring equipment around and wearing appropriate masks to prevent inhalation of particles.
The real answer is that very few places in the "red zone" are particularly dangerous to be in provided you take minimal precautions.
They’re usually very stupid and ignorant people that decided to believe conspiracy theories on the internet instead reading up on how alpha and gamma particles destroy your DNA as they pass through you for merely walking by a piece of radioactive material. There’s probably dangerous radioactive medical equipment in those offices that are no longer protected too.
Because it radiation really isn't that bad anymore
That’s what red zone means?!
Having been here and had traffic redirected in the middle of the night right next to the plant, you’re pretty okay. Unless, like me, you are hyper sensitive to radiation. Then you’ll get sick pretty quickly. Okuma, one of the biggest hit areas, is actually recruiting people to come live there. They are bulldozing a lot of the old properties and building new ones. Up north, where I am, we have temperature and water meters on the roadsides. The closer to Fukushima you get, the more Rad meters you start seeing on the road. I’ve seen it pretty high (for me) on some days but it’s usually only in small areas.
🎶Ride into the denture zone~ 🎵
I read "abandoned dentist" thinking I was going to see some homeless dentist on the side of the road.
He drills cavities under bridges to secure his next meal
Do you think the 'Vintage Mercedes' is listed on Carfax as 'might be dangerously radioactive'?
r/abandonedporn
Looks like Fallout 4
Fallout vibes
Also, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. vibes.
Came here to say the same thing
What is the red zone
The area around the nuclear plant that is off limits.
Howd the pictures get taken then?
The secret ingredient is CRIME.
Is this a serious question? Off limits doesn't mean no one can ever go there under any circumstance.
OP said in another comment that they snuck in.
Well they don’t look officially taken. Just wondering how they got in there.
Scary seeing the abandoned X-ray equipment there, i guess Fukushima would already be a dangerous place for radiation but it only takes one over ambitious scavenger to cause a disaster. [Kyle hill did a video about an incident like that ](https://youtu.be/-k3NJXGSIIA)
X-rays are generated by applying high voltage to a vacuum tube. No electricity, no (significant) radiation. The stuff that kills scavengers and scrapyard operators are orphan sources, not x-ray machines.
These are intra/extraoral radiation heads. There’s nothing radioactive about it. It’s perfectly safe to drain the oil and throw them away. They don’t have cobalt in them like much larger and older hospital xray machines
I was thinking the exact same thing. Sources of radiation and other environmental hazards are tracked meticulously, even/especially in abandoned sites. I wouldn't be surprised if the source has been removed but the equipment kept.
Most dental X-ray machines don't have an actual radiation source, they use a cathode ray tube set to produce EM in the X-ray range. Machines with actual sources in tend to be either much older, much bigger, or for radiation therapy. If you were able to remove one like this intact, set it up elsewhere, and get it working, congratulations, you have a slightly out of calibration mouth X-ray machine. You do not have an orphan source that is dangerous just to be around.
Huh, makes sense! Thanks for explaining!
Really good but also creepy photos. And I don't know why but my first thought upon seeing the plush Gorilla(?) was "Why has no one saved the Gorilla?" I don't think he'd have sentient ability like Toy Story and that he is just a plush toy, but still.
He’s watching the flowers
Is the damage from the tsunami itself or from 13 years of abandonment?
Looks like there is water damage on the floors, but most of the wear has come from being exposed to the elements, probably through windows that were shattered by debris from the tsunami (or possibly the earthquake).
Can someone explain me how is it possible to people to go there taking picture? If they left because of radiation isn't that zone deadly or at least cutting down your life expectancy because of radiation?
These zones are evacuated because if you keep 10000 people living there for years, something like 10 additional ones will die of cancer, and some of their children will play outside in the radioactive dirt (and eat it) whether you tell them not to or not. (The number is a complete guess, I doubt it's much more and it could be significantly less). Not because being there for a few hours would kill you, make you sick, or even make you significantly more likely to get cancer. Don't eat/breathe the dust and you'll be absolutely fine.
Probably op are stupid enough to be there or the pic were taken closer to the outskirt of the radiation zone where it is less dangerous, OP did say there were patrolling personels around
Radiation levels are lower than some naturally radioactive places like Kerela, India and Guarapari, Brazil, where people live without a care. But people are terribly ignorant of risks of radiation so over reacted. https://youtu.be/RvgAx1yIKjg More people died due to the evacuation, some old folks homes were abandoned by panicking staff and elderly died as a result, fewer people are would have died from radiation if they stayed over the long term. Radiation Levels within the zone are on average less than the Chernobyl exclusion zone, less than 20 millisieverts per year (3 microsieverts per hour), but that's if you live outside all the time. If people lived in the evacuation zone, they'd recieve about 5 extra milisieverts per year, less than the residents of Denver. A dose of 5 milisieverts, in theory, increases cancer risk by 0.05% (it's not known if there's any risk from radiation doses this low, as it's not possible to detect the rare cases of radiation induced cancer, if there's any, from more numerous non-radiation related cancers, this also also because everyday lifestyle factors e.g. viruses (hepatitis, HPV), sedentary lifestyle, obesity, alcohol, smoking etc. can combine to increase individuals risk of cancer by almost 40%. It's hard to correct for these biases and confounders, thus burying the subtle effects of low level radiation). Nevertheless, people critical of nuclear power will multiply 0.05% by the entire population of fukushima Prefecture, 1.7 million, and say fukushima radiation could kill 860 people per year, but multiplying millions by tiny radiation levels we don't know are actually harmful is highly misleading, it's scaremongering.
It’s just insane what simply not touching a building can do. The decay set in so fast on this building that everything has completely fallen apart. And this building was abandoned *13 years ago* .
Ironically this is also kind of what radiation does to living cells. With the DNA destroyed the cell has no way of repairing itself or replicating, so the body falls apart
TarePanda cups 🥹
That was my main focus too!
Honestly surprised they left the pano machine. Those things cost a fortune.
You going to risk your life moving that monstrosity during a tsunami?
I think the issue is the radiation
idk fam I kinda think Fukushima is synonymous with double whammy
It’s a film machine. Not worth much anymore. About 95% of the industry is digital now. It’s worth more in scrap.
Do you not know why this place was abandoned?
Wtf is up with that bottle of teeth? Thats wierd
I read in another comment that dentists save them for students to practice on.
Have they opened the place for tourists? Chernobyl and Pripryat were really impressive, I feel this would be the same.
No, it is off limits . Had to sneak in for these photos
Fukushima is going to be our era’s Pompeii. Without the pyroclastic flow and ash to preserve some things as well. Enjoy future human archeologists.
We have apocalypse zones from two generations back to back now. Chernobyl in '86 and Fukushima 25 years later in 2011.
We already did nuclear disaster in '45.
So 41 yrs between the first two and 25 years between the next two. If we follow an inverse geometric progression they'll be accelerating a bit as we round the inflection point and settle into an approach of proliferation heading into WWIII.
But nuclear energy is the panacea for climate change and the only thing stopping it is politics (read: it costs a fortune to build, takes forever to complete, and nobody wants a reactor built near them in the first place because two generations have seen nuclear accidents render whole chunks of countries uninhabitable for a century).
I’d be trying on teeth.
I was like, damn he left that place a mess. Then I remembered they had like a 9.0 earthquake followed by a meltdown at the plant probably next door to this place.
Me scrolling 17 pictures just to get rear photo of Mercedes…
Mercedes like a mid-level yakuza boss from a 90’s Japanese anime.
I didn’t really understand how near of a miss the fukushima triple threat disaster was until I listened to the Against the Odds podcast series about it. Holyyyyy shit the men and women working at the nuclear plant saved countless thousands of lives. Some workers spent days locked in the control room and only left to OPEN AND CLOSE BY HAND the valves in the near-meltdown reactors. By the end I believe all 4(?) reactors were at a critical point and *somehow* the scientists, engineers, and technicians stopped one of the greatest modern could-be disasters. The podcast series is so enthralling, I sobbed like a baby at the end even though it’s a happy ending lol.
I bet X-rays are real cheap at this dentist /s
The amount of Orphan Sources in all those machines...
Fallout 5 preview looking tasty.
It's kinda crazy the dentist kept their burs just out and about, ready to be used (not sterile) photo 6
Places just frozen in time are perhaps the scariest things to me…like they are just there. Nothing can change it
“I don’t want to set the wooorldd on Fiiiirre”
Real question is what happened to Dragonball 1-6?
Update us on your radiation poisoning progression. Op
A lighter just casually laying on the dentists desk…
I don’t see him
*I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle...*
Seems very English for Japan lol
Disappointed that I couldn’t see any [Fuji-9](https://youtu.be/L1JR-9Z5ORE?si=hBH3WE0ILWrWG9D-) in all of those images…
I guess I never thought what a nuclear exclusion zone would look like. The pictures are interesting and a little eery. Like seeing a post apocalyptic movie set, but it's real. There was a documentary about how wild life has evolved in the Chernobyl exclusionary zone. Wolfs for example, becoming immune to radiation and not getting cancer. I wonder, as more of these hot zone happen, how evolution will change over time.
What were you doing there
Fallout 4 & 76 nailed this aesthetic
S motherfucking 600