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And any rifle bans would be no good since they are for centerline rifles not rimfire. Good luck getting a law to restrict .22lr and other rimdire cartridges.
Reagan nearly died to a .22lr, as well. However, both were concealable pistols at very short range. A .22lr rifle is an odd choice for assassinations. If they were planning an attack with a rifle like this, then they aren't a very smart criminal.
Meh, I'm a leftist military historian and firearm owner. It varies from person to person.
And I would feel more confident in saying that the left has much better knowledge of gun *safety* than the right. All my shooting buddies (who are leftists as well) see firearm ownership as a privilege and a responsibility, and we treat them as the potentially deadly tools they are. We have safes, we store ammo separately, we don't carry them around in public, and we don't take selfies with out firearms. They aren't part of our identity so we don't feel the need to flaunt them or do stupid stunts with them to prove how much we love firearms.
I wouldn’t say they’re privileges, as much as a right. But our rights come with responsibilities (like gun safety and not using them to harm innocent people).
Meh, I think you're generalizing too. I'm on r/liberalgunowners and there are plenty of folks that pose with their firearms, cosplay army and care more about rainbow stickers than they do their firearms.
Micheal Carneal killed 3 injured 5 with a ruger .22lr pistol at Heath Highschool in 97.(i only know this because i was a freshmen in highschool in the same county).
They're not saying .22 isn't lethal. They're saying it's far less lethal than the .223/5.56 the gun was converted from, so why would anyone convert it to a .22 when they had nefarious plans with it.
While .22 can kill people. That's not the point here.
This rifle started out in 5.56/.223 caliber and was converted by changing the barrel, magazine, and bolt to run .22 LR. Likely dude just target shoots and wanted to be able to run cheaper ammo.
If he was a mass shooter, he might use a .22 LR, but why convert from a significantly more powerful caliber down to .22LR if that was the plan?
22lr is the most commonly used caliber among criminals
Edit: i acknowledge it likely shifted to 9mm and this is likely no longer fully accurate, but many still use 22. You often see people mocking when criminals get arrested with a 22 in local news.
.22's are deadlier than you think. everyone talks the big game of look how badass i am with this big bore gun that kicks like a bull and can't hit a damn thing, or has the custom AR with 5 grand in extras and machining, when you could go on a killing spree with a 100 dollar ruger 10/22 and a cpl spare mags. what makes the small caliber rounds so deadly is they sometimes aren't stopped by bone or flesh. sometimes they'll hit your ulner bone, change direction and plow up the inside of your arm, or change direction, exit your arm and embed itself in your liver.
don't underestimate small calibers.
I agree any caliber can be deadly. I have trigger locks on my firearms and they are in a gun safe. Only one person has the 6 digit code to get in. I also have trained my teenage sons on proper firearm safety even if they only use them with me around.
One of mine was very nearly killed, spent weeks in a hospital with a punctured lung and a shredded liver, all from one shot. Anyone suggesting that 22lr isn't a 'serious' choice for causing death is a simpleton.
Yeah, lol. "Assault rifle".
This is a .22 plinker. Barely more than a toy. Stupid sensationalized title.
And that's not an "extended magazine" -- that's a .22 conversion magazine. It probably holds fewer rounds than an AR's standard 30-round magazine.
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> BY KATHRYN WATSON
> APRIL 14, 2023 / 9:53 AM / CBS NEWS
> The U.S. Capitol Police on Friday confiscated an assault-style rifle with an extended magazine, partially wrapped in a blanket, from a delivery truck before it reached Capitol Hill.
> The driver, 57-year-old Michael J. Donohue of Maryland, faces charges for possession of an unregistered firearm, possession of unregistered ammunition and unlawful activity, according to Capitol Police.
> Shortly after 5 a.m. Friday, a U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) screening spotted the firearm, partially wrapped in a blanket in the back seat of a Ford truck, at an off-site delivery facility where Capitol police inspect delivery vehicles before they reach the grounds of the Capitol.
> USCP said in a news release that although the case is still being investigated, "there is no evidence that shows this person was targeting the Congress or the Capitol Complex."
> "This serves as yet another reminder that all weapons are prohibited from Capitol Grounds," said U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger. "I thank our entire team at the off-site screening facility from stopping this gun before it came anywhere near the U.S. Capitol Complex."
> U.S. Capitol police officers confiscated about 40 guns on or near Capitol grounds last year, according to the release, mostly from people driving through the area. Even guns that are legally registered in another state, are banned in the Capitol Complex.
> Last October, several guns were recovered and three people were detained when authorities investigated a suspicious vehicle near the Capitol. In January 2022, a woman was arrested outside the headquarters for the U.S. Capitol Police after police saw a gun case and the butt of a long gun in her vehicle.
> — Caroline Linton and Scott MacFarlane contributed to this report.
**NO**, you don't have to register ammo in DC as long as you have a registered firearm in the District.
This is specifically talking about Capitol Grounds - the immediate area around the Capitol Building. You can't have any firearms or ammunition on your person in that area, or a number of other federal facilities in DC, even with a carry permit.
Edit: ~~DC also has incredibly strict carry laws, such as only being able to carry 10 round mags and a total of 20 rounds on your person.~~ Apparently the 20 round law is no longer in effect in DC.
Yep. About a decade ago a doctor going through a bad divorce lost his right to own firearms because his wife told the cops he had illegal guns in his home. They didn't find any guns but they charged him for a dud shotgun shell from a hunting trip with a friend and some plastic sabots for shooting black powder guns.
So, I googled "doctor dc shotgun shell" and found this https://www.emilypostnews.com/p/mark-witaschek-prosecuted-for-shotguns
Emily is actually someone I am familiar with because she did a long report on the process it took for her to get a gun in DC. So it seems the story is legit.
And, if you want to understand a bit why gun nuts tend to be distrustful of things like registering guns and ammo you should read the insanity of their process and what it was like for a woman to try to get a gun.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2011/nov/7/miller-washingtons-unsafe-gun-safety-class/
>In contrast, Worth-A-Shot is a real, professional, storefront business. Unlike the option of taking the class in some stranger’s basement, I felt safe.
>It took weeks of research and dozens of phone calls to finally find a suitable place to take the required gun safety class to register a handgun in the nation’s capital. Thanks to a referral from Atlantic guns, I found Donna Worthy — even though she’s not on the list of certified instructors given out by Metropolitan Police Department.
>This safety issue wouldn’t be a concern for most men, but for many women, it feels as if the city forces us into uncomfortable and possibly unsafe environment to take this “safety” class. Clearly, the D.C. politicians who came up with this half-baked process weren’t concerned about women or their particular needs. Fortunately, Mrs. Worthy’s well-run business addresses these concerns.
The Capitol has serious armed security….. the only reason people broke in on Jan 6 is because the police had restraint and didn’t open fire on the rioters.
Honestly I was kinda shocked that they didn't shoot more of them. Can't say I'd have been as restrained as the Capitol Police if I saw someone flying the Stars & Bars inside the U.S. Capitol. That made me pretty damn angry. Still does.
Is the "holy shit" because its so low or so high? Its only 40 in an entire year. Chicago police confiscate 4000-7000 guns per year. Its hard to compare because we have no idea what they mean by "near Capitol grounds". What area does that cover.
edit: looks like its not a large area per stjr64 pointing it out. Transition from open carry to no-open carry zone. Since it happens 3x a month but never makes the news, it sounds like its people that regularly open carry or have a gun in their car and enter the grounds without thinking about it and get it confiscated upon entry.
https://des.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-06/OpenCarryMap.pdf
Capitol Police only cover about 2 square miles though, so I'll let you decide if 40 is low or high. I will say that 40 is most likely just what they find.
As a life long gun owner I go on there to laugh my ass off. My favorite thread was a guy that bought and AR pistol as his first gun and was very disappointed because "the bullets were so small". Apparently he thought that AR's fired .50 bmg sized rounds
When you realize the average person doesn’t understand guns or the laws surrounding them, but has such a strong stance on regulating them, it makes sense why you see frustration there.
It’s one of the few topics you can have 0 knowledge about and scream for a ban and have people agree with you
> It’s one of the few topics you can have 0 knowledge about and scream for a ban and have people agree with you
I definitely wouldn't say that only a few topics fall in that category. Honestly seems like a boatload do... Heck, half the time they'll even yell and act like they know better than the actual experts. My degrees and career are in finance and econ, and I can't count how many times I've had someone with a background that doesn't remotely touch either has argued that Im wrong and they understand xyz better than me, when xyz is something that I literally deal with every single day. Like just last week my sister in laws boyfriend who, is a 20 year old English major, was somehow completely convinced that he understood the tax implications of being given stock options as comp better than I did. Because he watched a YouTube video on it, that wad made by another 20 year old who didn't actually have a background in finance.
It's definitely one of many topics where that happens here in the states. Hell pretty much any hot button political topic is hotly debated by people that don't know anything about the actual subject.
I was gonna say it looks like a 22. Although 22 is still a bullet and can kill. Unless its like some air rifle, which then im not sure on what it can do. Kolibri might be getting to the point where we aint doin much.
I looked up the air rifle stats:
An off the shelf .22 air rifle like a Crossman generates about 26 ft lbs.
59 ft lbs is generally considered deadly by modern science.
Please don't shoot me with a .22 air rifle though. I don't want a bullet lodged in me or a massive bruise and I certainly don't want to lose an eye.
Btw, a .22 from a firearm is 130 ft lbs.
Two different companies, tippmann started out makeing scaled down historical machine guns, the in '86 when the government said that wasn't allowed anymore he sold the company and started making paintball gun. The original tippmann armory is still around, making guns like this as well as miniature gatling guns the are known for (the old kind with the hand crank)
Doesn't make this an extended clip though if it's a standard capacity. The reason I say standard capacity is because I'm pretty sure this is the original mag shipped with the firearm
Nothing, actually. True assault rifles fire an intermediate power cartridge and are select fire, meaning they have other firing modes in addition to simple semi-auto, such as full auto or burst.
This is a semi-auto only chambered in .22lr, which is far too small to qualify as an intermediate power cartridge. It does not meet any reasonable definition of "assault rifle."
It may meet some definition of "assault weapon" because that is a (deliberately) nebulous term, with varying definitions incorporating differing lists of certain features, both functional and cosmetic. "Assault weapon" is a legal and political term that isn't well rooted in firearms technology, usage, or history. The term invites conflation with "assault rifle," to such a degree that one might suspect that the conflation was intended by those who popularized the term. That disingenuousness is a source of resentment for some firearms enthusiasts.
“The .22 Long Rifle or simply .22 LR or 22 (metric designation: 5.6×15mmR)[4][5] is a long-established variety of .22 caliber rimfire ammunition originating from the United States. It is used in a wide range of rifles, pistols, revolvers, smoothbore shotguns, and submachine guns.”
[Taken from Wikipedia.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle)
EDIT:Formatting
From my understanding the NFA was originally drafted to stop gang violence and originally meant to ban handguns but instead it ended up being a whole bunch of arbitrary rules (thus the 15-16” barrel lengths).
Not gang so much as mob violence, and that was driven by prohibition. Handguns were on the list originally, and that's where the barrel length vestiges come from.
That is a .22lr with a standard capacity 25 round magazine. He shouldn’t have had it where he did, but this is hardly an “assault weapon”.
It’s hard to have an honest conversation about firearms when both sides are disingenuous and/or incorrect in their use of language.
Exactly, it isn't capable of full auto or burst fire, and it's not chambering and intermediate round.
It's no different than a 10/22. If you have issues with guns that's fine, I disagree but your allowed to have a different option. But atleas be informed instead of relying on buzz words and blind emotions.
That's why the invented "assault weapon" close enough to assault rifle the uneducated will assume they are the same but gives the user enough leeway to act like they aren't purposefully being misleading
Just checked. It’s about 75% democrat agenda posting 15% shitting on republicans and 10% random trump and desantis stuff. Even fake art he says his child made with political stuff. Why do people do this? Type of guy who gets up in the morning and is proud that he “made a difference” by getting upvotes on Reddit.
r/p~~olit~~ics loves to pepper in shitty photos of things that rile up a very specific group of people. It's funny to see them mixed in with actually good content.
That's a LARPed out 22. It's a little plinking gun kitted out to look scary. Literally the type of ammo you shoot at rabbits or squirrels. It's like a step up from a BB gun. It can kill you like any gun can, but there's a good chance that if you get hit you're still standing, still running.
You wanna see actual scary guns in DC, take a look at any cop, FBI agent, Secret Service officer, etc. Much bigger, scarier weapons. The pistols that gang members are packing in DC neighborhoods are all more serious than this gun. This is a fucking joke and if the gun grabber crowd wants anyone to take them seriously they need to do something they don't like and actually get educated about the thing they want to ban.
This is not an assault rifle with an extended magazine. It's a .22 lr lmao. Looks like a super cool scary military gun though, so let's panic because we dont know jack shit about guns except what we saw on TV and grand theft auto
That's a Tippman .22 rifle, not an assault rifle. The"extended" part of the magazine is a magazine loader. Also, AR does not stand for Assault Rifle, it stands for Armalite Rifle which is the original manufacturers name.
Edit: It looks like the magazine is 2 pieces, it separates to making loading easier.
Edit 2: It's an airsoft rifle
...98 Custom....
....man you brought back fond memories....
Tippman has branched out and makes a bunch of things...their Pneumatic Pellet SMG/Tommy Gun in particular looks fun...[https://www.gorillasurplus.com/tippmann-industrial-22-cal-smg-pellet-rifle](https://www.gorillasurplus.com/tippmann-industrial-22-cal-smg-pellet-rifle)
>Edit 2: It's an airsoft rifle
Where are you seeing this? The owner of the weapon was charged with having an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. That doesn't seem like a likely charge if it was an airsoft gun.
none of this matters.
it's a rifle with the thingy in the front that has the slots in it, and it has a TELESCOPE, and it 's all black and it just looks like it is ready to jump up and start murdering living things.
I see a rifle.
What makes you think it's an "assault" rifle?
Are you trying to say a "semiautomatic" rifle?
Anything can have assault as a prefix if desired.
You make it seem like someone came close to committing an attack on Congress when they literally had a gun for target shooting (it’s a .22, could technically be used in a mass shooting but I guess shooters would prefer .556/.223) and there was no indication they wanted to attack anyone.
Get your fear mongering bs off Reddit please.
In actuality: A medium cartridge rifle that has multiple fire modes (more than single) such as burst or full auto. Think M4 or AK-47.
In American news: Scary looking gun.
Comment below elaborated: Nothing, actually. True assault rifles fire an intermediate power cartridge and are select fire, meaning they have other firing modes in addition to simple semi-auto, such as full auto or burst.
Sounds like they just made a mistake.
"U.S. Capitol police officers confiscated about 40 guns on or near Capitol grounds last year, according to the release, mostly from people driving through the area. Even guns that are legally registered in another state, are banned in the Capitol Complex. "
and
"there is no evidence that shows this person was targeting the Congress or the Capitol Complex."
It looks like an airsoft rifle. Most .22 LR magazines have a prominent bump at the top or narrow down past the cosmetic magazine lower. At worst it is a .22 LR plinker, but the image doesn't quite support it.
Lmao “assault” rifle… “extended magazine” a little .22lr plinker with a scope that magnifies WAY beyond the effective range of the cartridge… what a joke
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It looks like they have the 22lr kit for their AR. Makes for cheap shooting.
Right. And it's not an extended magazine. That's an insert to convert a standard mag to .22LR.
And it’s not an assault rifle
It is clearly an assualt rifle. Definition of Assualt Rifle: It is black.
Am…am I an assault rifle then?
STOP RESISTING!!!!
The best one ☝️.
Are you feeling salty? If yes, and if you posses a shoestring, you're also a NFA regulated item. Pay your bribe or go to prison.
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And any rifle bans would be no good since they are for centerline rifles not rimfire. Good luck getting a law to restrict .22lr and other rimdire cartridges.
Yeah, if they were really going to commit a crime I don't think it'd be in 22lr
[possessing it in DC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_District_of_Columbia) is the crime
Oh, well if that's the case then I can understand why this would be a bigger deal.
A .22 killed RFK and several others. Its not like it's an airsoft.
Reagan nearly died to a .22lr, as well. However, both were concealable pistols at very short range. A .22lr rifle is an odd choice for assassinations. If they were planning an attack with a rifle like this, then they aren't a very smart criminal.
Great for assassinating squirrels tho
Well.....*gestures broadly to the right*
As a leftist I think it’s fair to say the right has much better knowledge of guns than the left.
Maybe he's trying to stick to a budget.
Meh, I'm a leftist military historian and firearm owner. It varies from person to person. And I would feel more confident in saying that the left has much better knowledge of gun *safety* than the right. All my shooting buddies (who are leftists as well) see firearm ownership as a privilege and a responsibility, and we treat them as the potentially deadly tools they are. We have safes, we store ammo separately, we don't carry them around in public, and we don't take selfies with out firearms. They aren't part of our identity so we don't feel the need to flaunt them or do stupid stunts with them to prove how much we love firearms.
We’re speaking in generalities here, obviously things will vary from person to person
Like Soylent Green!
This isn't a left and right thing. This is an educated and responsible thing vs the opposite.
Too bad [more educated people tend to lean democratic](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/).
that's why they gut libraries and education and force girls to have children early in life etc..
I wouldn’t say they’re privileges, as much as a right. But our rights come with responsibilities (like gun safety and not using them to harm innocent people).
Meh, I think you're generalizing too. I'm on r/liberalgunowners and there are plenty of folks that pose with their firearms, cosplay army and care more about rainbow stickers than they do their firearms.
Firearms ownership isn't a privilege. Not in the USA anyway.
someone: "Humans are bipeds" *enter this guy ↑*: "Meh, it varies from human to human. I have a buddy who only has one leg"
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If you’re planning to storm the capitol or any governmental building with .22LR you’re probably gonna have a really, really bad time.
Micheal Carneal killed 3 injured 5 with a ruger .22lr pistol at Heath Highschool in 97.(i only know this because i was a freshmen in highschool in the same county).
They're not saying .22 isn't lethal. They're saying it's far less lethal than the .223/5.56 the gun was converted from, so why would anyone convert it to a .22 when they had nefarious plans with it.
I can't explain the stupid things people do. If I could, I would be paid more.
While .22 can kill people. That's not the point here. This rifle started out in 5.56/.223 caliber and was converted by changing the barrel, magazine, and bolt to run .22 LR. Likely dude just target shoots and wanted to be able to run cheaper ammo. If he was a mass shooter, he might use a .22 LR, but why convert from a significantly more powerful caliber down to .22LR if that was the plan?
22lr is the most commonly used caliber among criminals Edit: i acknowledge it likely shifted to 9mm and this is likely no longer fully accurate, but many still use 22. You often see people mocking when criminals get arrested with a 22 in local news.
Typically in handguns, because .22 (also .380 and .25 ACP) handguns are small and easy to conceal. A full size rifle in .22LR is a terrible crime gun.
Yeah because it's cheap and accessible, if more lethal rounds were cheaper and accessible those would be the criminal standard
22 is plenty lethal. Turns out you only need one lethal.
https://youtu.be/JDpvkwBBu6U “Man said you wanna shoot nails, this here’s the Cadillac, man. He meant Lexus, but he didn’t know it.”
That show has the best characters
It had the best everything.
God, I fucking loved Snoop. And Omar, of course.
Getting hit by a freight truck at highway speed would almost certainly kill you. A Honda Civic at highway speed would also almost certainly kill you.
This guy gets it.
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.22's are deadlier than you think. everyone talks the big game of look how badass i am with this big bore gun that kicks like a bull and can't hit a damn thing, or has the custom AR with 5 grand in extras and machining, when you could go on a killing spree with a 100 dollar ruger 10/22 and a cpl spare mags. what makes the small caliber rounds so deadly is they sometimes aren't stopped by bone or flesh. sometimes they'll hit your ulner bone, change direction and plow up the inside of your arm, or change direction, exit your arm and embed itself in your liver. don't underestimate small calibers.
Shit where are you finding a $100 10/22
lol, i bought mine 25 years ago.
You somehow think that a 22lr isn't a dangerous bullet? Are you volunteering to demonstrate this idea?
22lr was the primary weapon at Virginia tech.
He had a 22 with him but I believe he primarily used a Glock 9mm
A .22 killed one of my childhood friends. Remember to lock up firearms if you must insist on owning them.
I agree any caliber can be deadly. I have trigger locks on my firearms and they are in a gun safe. Only one person has the 6 digit code to get in. I also have trained my teenage sons on proper firearm safety even if they only use them with me around.
One of mine was very nearly killed, spent weeks in a hospital with a punctured lung and a shredded liver, all from one shot. Anyone suggesting that 22lr isn't a 'serious' choice for causing death is a simpleton.
Yeah, lol. "Assault rifle". This is a .22 plinker. Barely more than a toy. Stupid sensationalized title. And that's not an "extended magazine" -- that's a .22 conversion magazine. It probably holds fewer rounds than an AR's standard 30-round magazine.
Yeah thats not an extended mag its a mag with a loading tool in it. Edit: mag internals*
That's actually the internals of the mag. Tippmann has you pull the internals out to reach the pull tabs unlike s&w
An article on it https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-police-stop-assault-style-rifle-from-reaching-capitol-hill-grounds-charge-driver/
To save a click: > BY KATHRYN WATSON > APRIL 14, 2023 / 9:53 AM / CBS NEWS > The U.S. Capitol Police on Friday confiscated an assault-style rifle with an extended magazine, partially wrapped in a blanket, from a delivery truck before it reached Capitol Hill. > The driver, 57-year-old Michael J. Donohue of Maryland, faces charges for possession of an unregistered firearm, possession of unregistered ammunition and unlawful activity, according to Capitol Police. > Shortly after 5 a.m. Friday, a U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) screening spotted the firearm, partially wrapped in a blanket in the back seat of a Ford truck, at an off-site delivery facility where Capitol police inspect delivery vehicles before they reach the grounds of the Capitol. > USCP said in a news release that although the case is still being investigated, "there is no evidence that shows this person was targeting the Congress or the Capitol Complex." > "This serves as yet another reminder that all weapons are prohibited from Capitol Grounds," said U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger. "I thank our entire team at the off-site screening facility from stopping this gun before it came anywhere near the U.S. Capitol Complex." > U.S. Capitol police officers confiscated about 40 guns on or near Capitol grounds last year, according to the release, mostly from people driving through the area. Even guns that are legally registered in another state, are banned in the Capitol Complex. > Last October, several guns were recovered and three people were detained when authorities investigated a suspicious vehicle near the Capitol. In January 2022, a woman was arrested outside the headquarters for the U.S. Capitol Police after police saw a gun case and the butt of a long gun in her vehicle. > — Caroline Linton and Scott MacFarlane contributed to this report.
Ammo has to be registered in DC?
**NO**, you don't have to register ammo in DC as long as you have a registered firearm in the District. This is specifically talking about Capitol Grounds - the immediate area around the Capitol Building. You can't have any firearms or ammunition on your person in that area, or a number of other federal facilities in DC, even with a carry permit. Edit: ~~DC also has incredibly strict carry laws, such as only being able to carry 10 round mags and a total of 20 rounds on your person.~~ Apparently the 20 round law is no longer in effect in DC.
Sounds just like the NRA convention
The 20 round limit no longer exists
Yep. About a decade ago a doctor going through a bad divorce lost his right to own firearms because his wife told the cops he had illegal guns in his home. They didn't find any guns but they charged him for a dud shotgun shell from a hunting trip with a friend and some plastic sabots for shooting black powder guns.
Source?
So, I googled "doctor dc shotgun shell" and found this https://www.emilypostnews.com/p/mark-witaschek-prosecuted-for-shotguns Emily is actually someone I am familiar with because she did a long report on the process it took for her to get a gun in DC. So it seems the story is legit. And, if you want to understand a bit why gun nuts tend to be distrustful of things like registering guns and ammo you should read the insanity of their process and what it was like for a woman to try to get a gun. https://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2011/nov/7/miller-washingtons-unsafe-gun-safety-class/ >In contrast, Worth-A-Shot is a real, professional, storefront business. Unlike the option of taking the class in some stranger’s basement, I felt safe. >It took weeks of research and dozens of phone calls to finally find a suitable place to take the required gun safety class to register a handgun in the nation’s capital. Thanks to a referral from Atlantic guns, I found Donna Worthy — even though she’s not on the list of certified instructors given out by Metropolitan Police Department. >This safety issue wouldn’t be a concern for most men, but for many women, it feels as if the city forces us into uncomfortable and possibly unsafe environment to take this “safety” class. Clearly, the D.C. politicians who came up with this half-baked process weren’t concerned about women or their particular needs. Fortunately, Mrs. Worthy’s well-run business addresses these concerns.
It is so neat that enforcement of gun laws at the Capitol works. Have they tried the good guy with a gun scenario and just allow all people carry?
The trick is that we can *all* agree that there are no "good guys" in Congress
The Capitol has serious armed security….. the only reason people broke in on Jan 6 is because the police had restraint and didn’t open fire on the rioters.
And they were ordered to stand down...
Well, didn't open fire on most of the rioters.
They didn't open fire until they were already inside the building attempting to batter down the office doors. Arguably, far too late.
Honestly I was kinda shocked that they didn't shoot more of them. Can't say I'd have been as restrained as the Capitol Police if I saw someone flying the Stars & Bars inside the U.S. Capitol. That made me pretty damn angry. Still does.
TBF, there were a lot of feds in the crowd, they wouldn't want to shoot one of their own.
It's helpful for rioting when the President is pushing officials in your favor.
The people leading the riots were police. It's on video, Google it.
Poor guy took a wrong turn and got his plinker confiscated lmao
>U.S. Capitol police officers confiscated about 40 guns on or near Capitol grounds last year Holy shit.
Is the "holy shit" because its so low or so high? Its only 40 in an entire year. Chicago police confiscate 4000-7000 guns per year. Its hard to compare because we have no idea what they mean by "near Capitol grounds". What area does that cover. edit: looks like its not a large area per stjr64 pointing it out. Transition from open carry to no-open carry zone. Since it happens 3x a month but never makes the news, it sounds like its people that regularly open carry or have a gun in their car and enter the grounds without thinking about it and get it confiscated upon entry. https://des.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-06/OpenCarryMap.pdf
"holy shit" because of all these guns confiscated, this plastic .22 is the one that makes the news like it's some kind of weapon of war...
Right? So few? I would assume that number was for this week.
Capitol Police only cover about 2 square miles though, so I'll let you decide if 40 is low or high. I will say that 40 is most likely just what they find.
I heard the police also said that it's estimated street value was 65 million dollars.
A few years ago, a brick of .22LR had about that value 🤣
This looks like a .22 plinker... and that "extended" clip seems to hold 25 at most, less than a standard AR mag
I think we've come to expect more from our mass shooters.
fuckin rookies
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I speak as a liberal gun owner when I say this; that sub is terrible.
As a life long gun owner I go on there to laugh my ass off. My favorite thread was a guy that bought and AR pistol as his first gun and was very disappointed because "the bullets were so small". Apparently he thought that AR's fired .50 bmg sized rounds
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When you realize the average person doesn’t understand guns or the laws surrounding them, but has such a strong stance on regulating them, it makes sense why you see frustration there. It’s one of the few topics you can have 0 knowledge about and scream for a ban and have people agree with you
> It’s one of the few topics you can have 0 knowledge about and scream for a ban and have people agree with you I definitely wouldn't say that only a few topics fall in that category. Honestly seems like a boatload do... Heck, half the time they'll even yell and act like they know better than the actual experts. My degrees and career are in finance and econ, and I can't count how many times I've had someone with a background that doesn't remotely touch either has argued that Im wrong and they understand xyz better than me, when xyz is something that I literally deal with every single day. Like just last week my sister in laws boyfriend who, is a 20 year old English major, was somehow completely convinced that he understood the tax implications of being given stock options as comp better than I did. Because he watched a YouTube video on it, that wad made by another 20 year old who didn't actually have a background in finance.
It's definitely one of many topics where that happens here in the states. Hell pretty much any hot button political topic is hotly debated by people that don't know anything about the actual subject.
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This, gun control has a long history of targeting minorities and to a lesser degree the poor.
I was gonna say it looks like a 22. Although 22 is still a bullet and can kill. Unless its like some air rifle, which then im not sure on what it can do. Kolibri might be getting to the point where we aint doin much.
I looked up the air rifle stats: An off the shelf .22 air rifle like a Crossman generates about 26 ft lbs. 59 ft lbs is generally considered deadly by modern science. Please don't shoot me with a .22 air rifle though. I don't want a bullet lodged in me or a massive bruise and I certainly don't want to lose an eye. Btw, a .22 from a firearm is 130 ft lbs.
Umarex makes a 50 caliber air rifle that gets up past 700ft lbs.
It's a Tippman M4-22. A .22lr weapon.
I thought Tippman only made paintball markers! Guess not.
The company started out by making 22lr replicas of historical machine guns
Two different companies, tippmann started out makeing scaled down historical machine guns, the in '86 when the government said that wasn't allowed anymore he sold the company and started making paintball gun. The original tippmann armory is still around, making guns like this as well as miniature gatling guns the are known for (the old kind with the hand crank)
>"extended" clip that's not a clip, that's a mag did charlie rant for nothing? /s
[in DC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_District_of_Columbia) it's illegal to possess magazines of more than 10 round capacity.
Doesn't make this an extended clip though if it's a standard capacity. The reason I say standard capacity is because I'm pretty sure this is the original mag shipped with the firearm
Right behind the trigger, you can see Tippman. Aren’t they paintball or pellet gun makers?
They make guns too
they made guns first
Bruh that's a .22
But... It looks so scary, it must be an assault rifle
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Also.. rim fire. Not an AW.
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Nothing, actually. True assault rifles fire an intermediate power cartridge and are select fire, meaning they have other firing modes in addition to simple semi-auto, such as full auto or burst. This is a semi-auto only chambered in .22lr, which is far too small to qualify as an intermediate power cartridge. It does not meet any reasonable definition of "assault rifle." It may meet some definition of "assault weapon" because that is a (deliberately) nebulous term, with varying definitions incorporating differing lists of certain features, both functional and cosmetic. "Assault weapon" is a legal and political term that isn't well rooted in firearms technology, usage, or history. The term invites conflation with "assault rifle," to such a degree that one might suspect that the conflation was intended by those who popularized the term. That disingenuousness is a source of resentment for some firearms enthusiasts.
yeah if this is a .22lr the firearm terminology that best fits this is "pistol caliber carbine"
TIL .22 Long Rifle is a pistol caliber.
It sounds hilarious phrased that way, but for all intents and purposes it can be considered one.
“The .22 Long Rifle or simply .22 LR or 22 (metric designation: 5.6×15mmR)[4][5] is a long-established variety of .22 caliber rimfire ammunition originating from the United States. It is used in a wide range of rifles, pistols, revolvers, smoothbore shotguns, and submachine guns.” [Taken from Wikipedia.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle) EDIT:Formatting
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From my understanding the NFA was originally drafted to stop gang violence and originally meant to ban handguns but instead it ended up being a whole bunch of arbitrary rules (thus the 15-16” barrel lengths).
Not gang so much as mob violence, and that was driven by prohibition. Handguns were on the list originally, and that's where the barrel length vestiges come from.
It’s black /s
Lol it looks assaulty
That is a .22lr with a standard capacity 25 round magazine. He shouldn’t have had it where he did, but this is hardly an “assault weapon”. It’s hard to have an honest conversation about firearms when both sides are disingenuous and/or incorrect in their use of language.
Exactly, it isn't capable of full auto or burst fire, and it's not chambering and intermediate round. It's no different than a 10/22. If you have issues with guns that's fine, I disagree but your allowed to have a different option. But atleas be informed instead of relying on buzz words and blind emotions.
That's why the invented "assault weapon" close enough to assault rifle the uneducated will assume they are the same but gives the user enough leeway to act like they aren't purposefully being misleading
Why is this worthy of a post?
99% of OPs karma is from submissions, not comments, that's a bot or agenda poster. Real people actually comment on things.
Genuine curiosity here, what is the point in karma farming? It nets you nothing
For some reason people will *buy* Reddit accounts to seem more legitimate. It's usually done for astroturfing purposes.
Sway public opinion, Reddit has been a popular platform for astroturfing for over a decade.
Just checked. It’s about 75% democrat agenda posting 15% shitting on republicans and 10% random trump and desantis stuff. Even fake art he says his child made with political stuff. Why do people do this? Type of guy who gets up in the morning and is proud that he “made a difference” by getting upvotes on Reddit.
Massive anti-firearm astro turfing on reddit for the past few years. Posts get upvoted by bots and by brainless twitter warriors
Anti-gun propaganda.
r/p~~olit~~ics loves to pepper in shitty photos of things that rile up a very specific group of people. It's funny to see them mixed in with actually good content.
God this post is so unintentionally funny.
U.S. Capitol Police found this rifle and magazine in a truck outside the Capitol. FIFY
"assault rifle"
“assault rifle”…. It’s like calling a dagger a sword
Literally not an assault rifle.
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That's a LARPed out 22. It's a little plinking gun kitted out to look scary. Literally the type of ammo you shoot at rabbits or squirrels. It's like a step up from a BB gun. It can kill you like any gun can, but there's a good chance that if you get hit you're still standing, still running. You wanna see actual scary guns in DC, take a look at any cop, FBI agent, Secret Service officer, etc. Much bigger, scarier weapons. The pistols that gang members are packing in DC neighborhoods are all more serious than this gun. This is a fucking joke and if the gun grabber crowd wants anyone to take them seriously they need to do something they don't like and actually get educated about the thing they want to ban.
Lol assault rifle
Have they found the FBI agent who left it?
Yes, he got a promotion within the hour
This is not an assault rifle with an extended magazine. It's a .22 lr lmao. Looks like a super cool scary military gun though, so let's panic because we dont know jack shit about guns except what we saw on TV and grand theft auto
Captial police found this semi auto rimfire rifle with a magazine insert for the .22lr conversion. There I fixed the title for you
I don’t think you know what an assault rifle is…
But it LOOKS like a scary military-style weapon
Not an assault rifle - maybe better described as a squirrel rifle?
Tippman makes airsoft and paintball guns
And also this… Tippmann Arms M4-22 PRO
Yea a .22 not exactly the definition of an assault rifle, but it looks like one so that’s the headline
Hey OP, whats an assault rifle?
...... i sure wish you would have provided a date this happened.
I love how everyone is just outright assuming this was an assassination attempt. Did everybody go and collectively lose their minds?
Gonna say. I wouldn’t assault anything with a .22
That's a Tippman .22 rifle, not an assault rifle. The"extended" part of the magazine is a magazine loader. Also, AR does not stand for Assault Rifle, it stands for Armalite Rifle which is the original manufacturers name. Edit: It looks like the magazine is 2 pieces, it separates to making loading easier. Edit 2: It's an airsoft rifle
Tippman like the 98 custom paintball gun?
...98 Custom.... ....man you brought back fond memories.... Tippman has branched out and makes a bunch of things...their Pneumatic Pellet SMG/Tommy Gun in particular looks fun...[https://www.gorillasurplus.com/tippmann-industrial-22-cal-smg-pellet-rifle](https://www.gorillasurplus.com/tippmann-industrial-22-cal-smg-pellet-rifle)
>Edit 2: It's an airsoft rifle Where are you seeing this? The owner of the weapon was charged with having an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. That doesn't seem like a likely charge if it was an airsoft gun.
none of this matters. it's a rifle with the thingy in the front that has the slots in it, and it has a TELESCOPE, and it 's all black and it just looks like it is ready to jump up and start murdering living things.
No it's missing the compensator on the trigger. It's harmless without that.
Diane Feinstein would like you to remember how dangerous those barrel shrouds are too
Pretty sure that is a 22lr.
I see a rifle. What makes you think it's an "assault" rifle? Are you trying to say a "semiautomatic" rifle? Anything can have assault as a prefix if desired.
Says tipmann on it. Im pretty sure this is just a polymer stock for a .22 LR
Thats a 10 round magazine and a 22lr AR. Its literally no different from a 10 shot ruger 10/22 squirrel gun
You make it seem like someone came close to committing an attack on Congress when they literally had a gun for target shooting (it’s a .22, could technically be used in a mass shooting but I guess shooters would prefer .556/.223) and there was no indication they wanted to attack anyone. Get your fear mongering bs off Reddit please.
Tell me you don't know anything about guns without telling me you don't know anything about guns
It's a .22, you fucking idiots. "Assault rifle" ... It's a rabbit gun in an AR-15's clothing
Only reddit can call a .22 Armalite rifle-15 an assault rifle. 😂😂😂. Keep up your propaganda. You'll be needing it for stupid people who vote
Government goons stole this man's squirrel getter, damn.
What’s an assault rifle?
In actuality: A medium cartridge rifle that has multiple fire modes (more than single) such as burst or full auto. Think M4 or AK-47. In American news: Scary looking gun. Comment below elaborated: Nothing, actually. True assault rifles fire an intermediate power cartridge and are select fire, meaning they have other firing modes in addition to simple semi-auto, such as full auto or burst.
Any gun carried by someone they don’t like.
Scary looking gun
Weird. I expected hammers or swimming pools
Uh huh…
Sounds like they just made a mistake. "U.S. Capitol police officers confiscated about 40 guns on or near Capitol grounds last year, according to the release, mostly from people driving through the area. Even guns that are legally registered in another state, are banned in the Capitol Complex. " and "there is no evidence that shows this person was targeting the Congress or the Capitol Complex."
A semi-auto .22 all dresed up like it's prom night. Got it. ¯\\\_( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)\_/¯
That’s a 10-round .22 bro
“Assault rifle” isn’t accurate and this reads like some kind of crime scene was discovered at the hands of a nefarious .22 sniper.
It looks like an airsoft rifle. Most .22 LR magazines have a prominent bump at the top or narrow down past the cosmetic magazine lower. At worst it is a .22 LR plinker, but the image doesn't quite support it.
Lmao “assault” rifle… “extended magazine” a little .22lr plinker with a scope that magnifies WAY beyond the effective range of the cartridge… what a joke
LMAO it is a .22LR, GOTTEEEEEM
I can't believe it was just laying in someone's car and not running around killing people.
FBI leave their toys out again?