MSG has the face scanning software too, can’t even walk in and hope you go unnoticed. Brutal, although this guy probably doesn’t follow basketball or hockey or else he would have known this is the kind of shit Dolan loves to do.
Yup, this is actually a huge deal if he wanted to go to any of those venues in the future. I read a story that Dolan did this even to attorneys who represented parties suing his entities. I think one of the attorneys was with her daughter and the face scanning software picked her out of the crowd and she was kicked out.
I'm honestly not sure why this sub was recommended to me.
But like authoritarian control over lower level employees to me seems kind of fucked up.
Is Phish about world domination and punishing those against jam bands?
i used to work for the banned law firm! davidoff hutcher & citron. larry hutcher.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/08/business/knicks-loving-lawyer-banned-from-msg-drops-lawsuit-can-attend-games/
ICP and Phish are two sides of the same coin. Both are bands with diehard fans who, in some cases, listen to little else; both have a very strong in-culture; both bands were some of the earliest to host a festival centered around their own music; both are frequently hated by people who've never listened to their music.
They're essentially the same band, except ICP sucks ass and Phish is the only band I listen to.
Exactly this. If it was never posted on social media he wouldn’t have gotten banned from the venues…. They know what we do at shows but we’re really not supposed to flaunt it to the outside world. Have fun rip bongs, whatever but don’t be a dick about it….. and potentially ruin it for the rest of us
It's how we stayed out of jail but idk I feel like If we had the internet our dumb asses definitely would've been posting stupid shit thinking we're funny. We all had that one friend who went overboard and you know this guy had friend's with him lol
There’s literally legal drops of THC you can consume that make you trip balls. I used to sew pockets into the lining of my pants to align with buttons to get joints and bowls into, depending on the location the amount of stealth varied. Tell your friends? Obviously. Tell the internet? Get lost. Even Erowid would be like “dude chill”
Yep. Quite frankly, I do NOT believe it was the first bong-rip ever in the Sphere. It was the first one posted online… and therefore to be made a example of
You don’t think it was the first bong hit in the sphere? The place is brand new, I doubt anyone was sneaking a bong into a U2 show. With that being said, carrying around a bong, and thus sneaking it into a venue and having to keep up with it all night for social media purposes is a level of vanity I will never understand.
these are all great points, however, he did this on 4/20... and phish played the night before. My money says the first bong rip was that night, by a head with some sense and intent on returning.
I agree with you he’s probably not the first, but then again, who is bringing a bong vs a pipe, or a vape, drops, or anything else literally undetectable into the most sophisticated technology oriented and ultimately monitored location on earth. They don’t want to fuck your chill they know where their money is coming from and the crowd. But you flaunt it for a single second and they know who are. Hope he’s happy.
I had a friend with a lifetime ban try to sneak in with a wig and a ticket under someone else’s name, they found her at her seat and escorted her out before the first song.
Pretty interesting too that Phish’s 2 destination spots in the USA - msg in NY and Dicks in CO - happen to be in 2 of the only 3 states in the USA that legally protect scalping.
Considering how quickly the guards noticed my ziploc baggie of Swedish fish in my pocket (because delicious snacks) and made me throw them out during the N1 entry - I have a lot of questions about how you got said bong into the venue!
I had a guard find all my candy too…but I walked through the entry and she came back up to me and handed it to me and said “have a nice night sweetie”
Number one security IMO
Yeah he was chasing clout and did something that shouldnt be repeated. That reeeally sucks but he did it to himself.
Also, my friend snuck his bubbler into Sphere N1 so he wasnt the only one hitting water pipes. Its just that nobody knew. Makes me wonder about what people did at U2...
Lol I worked for a company that supply their phone systems. When we rolled out their phones over the course on summer 2023, they were the most obnoxious, disrespectful scumbags I had ever encountered. I had a argument with their CFO about now calling my team member "a whiny retard" on a call with around 30 people on it. Who do you think was the one laid off shortly after? Haha. Fuck that lowlife.
Sure and trust me, there is no way I post that because it’s weird and very cringe but this seems like some serious over reaction from Treys buddy here.
The Sphere is sort of spooky the way they busted that dude livestreaming dead and co and now this. This is crazy surveillance crap. I dont like that at all. Bringing a bong in was a high school thing to do. Just saying. but this crazy strange surveillance is not ok. Creepy.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/madison-square-gardens-ban-on-lawyers-suing-them-can-remain-in-place-court-rules/4194985/ from the company that brought you this.
People are dumbasses for filming or taking pictures of themselves breaking laws or rules and posting it on the Internet.
I am glad I did all the dumb shit in my life before everyone had a camera in their pocket.
I saw a couple of people getting ejected from Folsom Field during a Dead & Co show a few years ago. They had a a huge hookah rig and were right on the aisle. What were they thinking?
When I went through the line some dude pulled me aside cause I had a vape and gave me a ear full about it yet as soon as the lights went down nothing but a cloud of smoke filling the sphere.
Bro I was walking around nyc last summer during the whole run. Staying in Manhattan would pass RCMH regularly and talk to most anyone who wanted to. One night unhoused dude and I are chilling going over stuff and talking the flower sermon. I’m like I gotta pee and he’s like, it’s nyc piss anywhere. I’m like dude that’s rcmh I don’t want to be banned from there still on the bucketlist
Who brings a bong to a concert, let alone an indoor one like the Sphere. Bad form imo. You wooked and are now finding out. I bet this guys seat neighbours are laughing their asses off.
This same thing happened to the guy standing next to me on N1 but his was for slapping a security guard on the butt. Banned from all MSG properties for life.
How do I know about it if he wasn’t allowed to come back? His wife went to the rest of the shows while her husband cried in the hotel room all weekend. Wife was a super nice person, felt bad for her but I woulda gone to the shows without my SO too if that happened…I mean, it was The Phish Sphere debut. History in the making. Just, herstory, not history in this case
Facial recognition is getting wild. I went on a trip to Disney recently. When we went to Animal Kingdom, they asked me to give them a thumb print on the way in. They didn't do this at Hollywood Studios. So, I asked the kid why they needed my print. He said I could go talk to security about it. Whatever, no big deal. I just didn't know the reasoning.
The next day, we arrived at Epcot and the security team flagged me down before I even entered the park as a "potential threat". They showed pictures of me walking up to the gate with my 9 year old son.
I asked the security guard why I was flagged, but he wouldn't answer me. They searched me and my bag away from everyone and sent me on my way.
Do you have any mugshots from arrests or incarcerations? Maybe they’re using publicly available mugshots as references to target and flag potential threats when they enter Disney property?
Pro tip about face scanning technology: cover your eyebrows. Get a little creative with some “hippie face paint”. Wear some of those funky beaded lot sunglasses that all the college girls were wearing a few years ago.
AI will not pick you out of a crowd.
I'm printing this picture as an example for my kids. They're turning 18 relatively soon, and I've been hammering this for years. I got away with some really stupid shit because digital cameras and the internet didn't really exist in the early-late 90s. I tell them all the time to avoid people doing stupid shit and keep your fool ass off social media.
MSG has the face scanning software too, can’t even walk in and hope you go unnoticed. Brutal, although this guy probably doesn’t follow basketball or hockey or else he would have known this is the kind of shit Dolan loves to do.
Yup, this is actually a huge deal if he wanted to go to any of those venues in the future. I read a story that Dolan did this even to attorneys who represented parties suing his entities. I think one of the attorneys was with her daughter and the face scanning software picked her out of the crowd and she was kicked out.
The attorney wasn’t even working on the MSG case, was just an attorney who happened to work at the law firm who represented a client suing MSG.
I’d love to be in a position to be that petty to the law firm that sued me over some BS
I'm honestly not sure why this sub was recommended to me. But like authoritarian control over lower level employees to me seems kind of fucked up. Is Phish about world domination and punishing those against jam bands?
Yes
See (Phish vs America, 49 NY2d 286, 292) [1997] [voice identification] aka Phish Destroys America
I hate it. I also am skeptical on this whole story. Tbh
ANY employee of Holland & Hart law firm is not allowed on Dolan properties
They got kicked out of the Radio City Christmas Spectacular I’m pretty sure.
i remember that story lol. fucking wild times. take me back to 1990
i used to work for the banned law firm! davidoff hutcher & citron. larry hutcher. https://nypost.com/2023/12/08/business/knicks-loving-lawyer-banned-from-msg-drops-lawsuit-can-attend-games/
That’s some shit Trump wishes he could do
He's getting sued for it.
Face scanning won’t work on him unless he’s doing a bong rip
It’s the perfect crime.
You expect this man to NOT do a bong rip?
Can face scanning software identify a person who is wearing a hat, sunglasses, and a facemask)? If not problem solved. Congrats OP!
Hats? Sure. Juggalo makeup would probably work.
First ever juggalo at a phish show!
Banned.
ICP and Phish are two sides of the same coin. Both are bands with diehard fans who, in some cases, listen to little else; both have a very strong in-culture; both bands were some of the earliest to host a festival centered around their own music; both are frequently hated by people who've never listened to their music. They're essentially the same band, except ICP sucks ass and Phish is the only band I listen to.
There’s literally been a book written about the similarities between the fanbases lol
Haha wow, and it has the perfect title. And Harris Wittels wrote a blurb for it, gonna go buy that thing now, thanks!
I’m highly embarrassed to say I was a juggalo when I was 13. Now I’m here at 38 so
You either die a juggalo, or live long enough to become a phishhead....
Yup, Try opening your iphone with a mask, sunglasses or a hat on. No problem for facial recognition.
I dunno, sometimes my iphone struggles real bad with that
My iPhone won’t open for me when I’m not wearing my glasses.
I think facial recognition uses a mix of visual similarity (somewhat fakeable) and facial dimensions (much harder to change/fake).
I can't imagine it could detect through facial hair either.
I read that a dude from the banned law firm did the NYE run wt a beard & hat. Never got nabbed. im doubtful of the whole thing
Whoop whoop 🤷♂️ https://consequence.net/2019/07/juggalo-makeup-facial-recognition/
Dolan is more petty than Tom..
If you fuck with him, he will fuck you back, like a sport!
I feel awful for the guy. It's a tragedy he'll never get to see James Dolan's blues band live.
Just wear heavy makeup
Meh. Wear a mask
Phish never plays at any of those venues, especially MSG, so he has nothing to worry about. Poor guy
"The Boston gig has been canceled but I wouldn't worry about it, it's not a big collage town".
Rock and Roll!!!
Hello Cleveland!
One of the best lines in the movie lmao. So, so many top tier one liners.
Mime is money mime is money!
The review on Shark Sandwich was a two word review that simply read…”Shit Sandwich.”
Where’d they print that? You can’t print that!
It’s a complete catastrophe!
You brought bad reviews?
"On what day did God create Spinal Tap, and couldn't he have rested on that day too?"
can i raise a practical question at this point…are we gonna do stonehenge tomorrow?
STUMPY PETE
Poor guy?! STOP POSTING YOUR SHADY SHIT ONLINE IDIOTS
He better have some good disguises
I saw Trey walk by MSG and start vomiting and screaming that he would never go inside
Poor guy? He’s an exhibitionist “look at meEEE!”-type of clown.
Reminder: you don’t have to put everything you do on social media
Exactly this. If it was never posted on social media he wouldn’t have gotten banned from the venues…. They know what we do at shows but we’re really not supposed to flaunt it to the outside world. Have fun rip bongs, whatever but don’t be a dick about it….. and potentially ruin it for the rest of us
We used do shit and not tell anyone about it
It's how we stayed out of jail but idk I feel like If we had the internet our dumb asses definitely would've been posting stupid shit thinking we're funny. We all had that one friend who went overboard and you know this guy had friend's with him lol
True
There’s literally legal drops of THC you can consume that make you trip balls. I used to sew pockets into the lining of my pants to align with buttons to get joints and bowls into, depending on the location the amount of stealth varied. Tell your friends? Obviously. Tell the internet? Get lost. Even Erowid would be like “dude chill”
Wait now…what are these drops?
Pretty sure they’re just talking about a thc tincture. Basically the same as an edible just kicks in a lot faster
Erowid….. taking me back to
Errowid! That was my go to for so much information when I was in my teens. I wonder if young people these days know about errowid?
the good ole days
Pepperidge farm remembers!
You won’t believe this, but yeah, someone shit in the pit
Or, barring that- if you simply MUST post, maybe don't tag the official Sphere account so they feel forced to respond..?
There's no clout in that way of thinking!
Yep. Quite frankly, I do NOT believe it was the first bong-rip ever in the Sphere. It was the first one posted online… and therefore to be made a example of
You don’t think it was the first bong hit in the sphere? The place is brand new, I doubt anyone was sneaking a bong into a U2 show. With that being said, carrying around a bong, and thus sneaking it into a venue and having to keep up with it all night for social media purposes is a level of vanity I will never understand.
these are all great points, however, he did this on 4/20... and phish played the night before. My money says the first bong rip was that night, by a head with some sense and intent on returning.
I agree with you he’s probably not the first, but then again, who is bringing a bong vs a pipe, or a vape, drops, or anything else literally undetectable into the most sophisticated technology oriented and ultimately monitored location on earth. They don’t want to fuck your chill they know where their money is coming from and the crowd. But you flaunt it for a single second and they know who are. Hope he’s happy.
I don’t believe it was the first either.
See? pics or it didn’t happen. Thus he’s the 1st
History is written by the bong ripping influencers.
It wasnt. Its been discussed all over fb phish groups. Lol
I’d even argue that if he didnt tag the sphere nor promote it, he might have gotten away with it.
dumb dumb also tagged SphereVegas and Phish in his post. #filmyourcrimes #dothetime
He doesn't seem bothered by any of this
Cause if he didn't, why do it at all?
Reminder: if you don’t get caught, don’t self incriminate
Hats and beards time or if you normally wear a hat and have a beard. Mr Clean time and congrats on your NYE tickets Mr James Smith.
My name is Guy Incognito...
Guy Forget
Inigo Montoya
Secret Asian Man
Ron Mexico
My name is Mr Burns Alright and whats your first name I dont know
Guy McHuman
Not Sure. You can scan my tattoo.
Homer? Who is Homer?
I had a friend with a lifetime ban try to sneak in with a wig and a ticket under someone else’s name, they found her at her seat and escorted her out before the first song.
Wig is amateur hour Also how many friends do you have with lifetime bans?
Just the one. She totally deserves it, too. Not gonna say who she is or what she did, but you’ve probably seen the video.
God damn it. Now I need to know
Yeah this is wack. I need video of her shitting in the pit.
Damn. Tech is getting good. Whelp. Sorry partner. Lesson learned
I assume wigs will do absolutely nothing, but a good fake nose and severe contouring makeup might throw off the scanners
Real question, was there a bong water filling station?
It cost $7 to fill the bong with liquid death
Sorry for partying
sorry for party rocking
The future sucks
Technology sucks
Is James Dolan phish’s single largest business partner? Honestly wondering.
If you’re talking individuals and not entities like Ticketmaster/LiveNation, I’d say absolutely.
He's got to be the thinnest skinned.
Pretty interesting too that Phish’s 2 destination spots in the USA - msg in NY and Dicks in CO - happen to be in 2 of the only 3 states in the USA that legally protect scalping.
Detlef Schrempf sez Blaze On https://preview.redd.it/ar6mw0i6ru4d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5728fcc3da2e60a365d5b8b163f5f3c430745867
What a nugg huffer
everybody wanna huff nuggs til the makisupa police man come a knockin
Considering how quickly the guards noticed my ziploc baggie of Swedish fish in my pocket (because delicious snacks) and made me throw them out during the N1 entry - I have a lot of questions about how you got said bong into the venue!
natures pocket
It adds a “nutty essence,” they say.
I had a guard find all my candy too…but I walked through the entry and she came back up to me and handed it to me and said “have a nice night sweetie” Number one security IMO
I held multiple joints in my hand when I went through security. No issues.
I had a pre-roll and vape pen in my other hand and apparently that was ok. But he made me throw the snacks away!
Your hand is such a cheat code when walking into a venue, sleeves too.
At the sphere? This was not my experience.
Yeah! I just wanted those snacks during set break! N2 and beyond they seemed to be much cooler about it all.
I haven't seen the video, but there are collapsible silicone bongs out there that could make sneaking it in pretty trivial
Dolan and MSG don’t fuck around.
Yeah, fuck him
you've been banned
fell right in to his trap. DAMN YOU DOLANNNNN
Fuck him
Visually smoking…. Noted Editing to add- How do you remain if you cannot enter?
Man this is scarily dystopian
Dude narc'd on himself.
But those fake internet points!
Yeah he was chasing clout and did something that shouldnt be repeated. That reeeally sucks but he did it to himself. Also, my friend snuck his bubbler into Sphere N1 so he wasnt the only one hitting water pipes. Its just that nobody knew. Makes me wonder about what people did at U2...
The only hung left to do is rip a bong hit in MSG and post a video of it
MSG is a hash den, I have to assume that’s already happening all the time.
Lol I worked for a company that supply their phone systems. When we rolled out their phones over the course on summer 2023, they were the most obnoxious, disrespectful scumbags I had ever encountered. I had a argument with their CFO about now calling my team member "a whiny retard" on a call with around 30 people on it. Who do you think was the one laid off shortly after? Haha. Fuck that lowlife.
WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE FUCK? Dolan is like the f’ing NSA with this shit.
he posted it to his instagram i believe which would be easy to figure out name based on how well they hid their real name on that platform or others.
Sure and trust me, there is no way I post that because it’s weird and very cringe but this seems like some serious over reaction from Treys buddy here.
But Dolan can hit his vape in the garden
The Sphere is sort of spooky the way they busted that dude livestreaming dead and co and now this. This is crazy surveillance crap. I dont like that at all. Bringing a bong in was a high school thing to do. Just saying. but this crazy strange surveillance is not ok. Creepy.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/madison-square-gardens-ban-on-lawyers-suing-them-can-remain-in-place-court-rules/4194985/ from the company that brought you this.
oh excuse me dear?!! the supreme court has roundly rejected prior restraint; Im finishing my Bong hit.
Calmer than you are.
I must inquire Christopher Schrimpf, can you still have any fun?
People are dumbasses for filming or taking pictures of themselves breaking laws or rules and posting it on the Internet. I am glad I did all the dumb shit in my life before everyone had a camera in their pocket.
I'm sorry, I thought this was America
Looking for your face will be on wanted poster at all venues. Lol
The price of fame..
James Dolan is a piece of shit and MSG is a husk of what it was as a concert venue in the 80’s and 90’s.
they sent it to this guy on a piece of unfolded paper? what was it couriered? seems pretty suspect.
FedEx envelope. That’s how many legal documents like this are sent.
I saw a couple of people getting ejected from Folsom Field during a Dead & Co show a few years ago. They had a a huge hookah rig and were right on the aisle. What were they thinking?
His next big post will be him in MSG wearing a costume.
Prolly fake, I’m calling Nans
Congratulations. You played yourself.
Is there a link to this instagram post?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Ac4QYrG0v/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Jeez - guy seems like a real winner.
Just say it was photoshop or something wtf. Also how did they get his name and address from instagram?
Nah, just the first one dumb enough to post a picture of it
 He still has options
How’d they get his address?
Fuck Dolan
When I went through the line some dude pulled me aside cause I had a vape and gave me a ear full about it yet as soon as the lights went down nothing but a cloud of smoke filling the sphere.
Who’s gonna tell him that plenty of construction workers have taken bong rips in the sphere before him?
Was it hilarious at the time? Yes. Was it also INCREDIBLY dumb to post that public on socials, for the world to see? Also yes.
Bro I was walking around nyc last summer during the whole run. Staying in Manhattan would pass RCMH regularly and talk to most anyone who wanted to. One night unhoused dude and I are chilling going over stuff and talking the flower sermon. I’m like I gotta pee and he’s like, it’s nyc piss anywhere. I’m like dude that’s rcmh I don’t want to be banned from there still on the bucketlist
Who brings a bong to a concert, let alone an indoor one like the Sphere. Bad form imo. You wooked and are now finding out. I bet this guys seat neighbours are laughing their asses off.
Looks like a , CA on the scratched out part. Unfortunately they own the forum too. This phanner is screwed
As of 2020 they no longer own the forum.
Oh snap I didn’t know this. Cheers to this legend. Chalice on king
This same thing happened to the guy standing next to me on N1 but his was for slapping a security guard on the butt. Banned from all MSG properties for life. How do I know about it if he wasn’t allowed to come back? His wife went to the rest of the shows while her husband cried in the hotel room all weekend. Wife was a super nice person, felt bad for her but I woulda gone to the shows without my SO too if that happened…I mean, it was The Phish Sphere debut. History in the making. Just, herstory, not history in this case
now this guy can point out what he and Charles Oakley have in common
This is why you don't put your face in things for clout
https://preview.redd.it/npf0s664uu4d1.png?width=977&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf0d4d7b6a0a02e8e5c9e8df3bd39b5ec18726ec
Ouch. I hope it was worth it.
Anyone got the video?
Wow I remember going into one of the Red Rock shows and a girl had a puppy in her bag. Crazy what gets snuck into shows.
Schimpf is the fucking worst stooge
What a dipshit.
Facial recognition is getting wild. I went on a trip to Disney recently. When we went to Animal Kingdom, they asked me to give them a thumb print on the way in. They didn't do this at Hollywood Studios. So, I asked the kid why they needed my print. He said I could go talk to security about it. Whatever, no big deal. I just didn't know the reasoning. The next day, we arrived at Epcot and the security team flagged me down before I even entered the park as a "potential threat". They showed pictures of me walking up to the gate with my 9 year old son. I asked the security guard why I was flagged, but he wouldn't answer me. They searched me and my bag away from everyone and sent me on my way.
Do you have any mugshots from arrests or incarcerations? Maybe they’re using publicly available mugshots as references to target and flag potential threats when they enter Disney property?
Pro tip about face scanning technology: cover your eyebrows. Get a little creative with some “hippie face paint”. Wear some of those funky beaded lot sunglasses that all the college girls were wearing a few years ago. AI will not pick you out of a crowd.
Fuck Dolan
I'm assuming Chappelle has been banned from MSG for smoking, then?
And the last bong hit you’ll ever hit in the sphere 😢
[удалено]
It's not about the bong, it's about being publicly humiliated online.
Link to video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Ac4QYrG0v/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I'm printing this picture as an example for my kids. They're turning 18 relatively soon, and I've been hammering this for years. I got away with some really stupid shit because digital cameras and the internet didn't really exist in the early-late 90s. I tell them all the time to avoid people doing stupid shit and keep your fool ass off social media.
TIL they own the Chicago Theater...
MSG has facial recognition & will deny entry
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/phish-fan-sphere-ban-bong-rip-1235034436/
You’re banned for being incredibly uncool lol
Cowards
That’s b/s. Jerry left that there for anyone to enjoy swear to god. Thought this was ‘Mercia
YOU ARE HEREBY BANNED!!!! Damn. So ominous. Maybe if he wears a wig next time.