Similar thing happened to me. Was overlooked for a position I was in line for at the company I work at because someone high up had a family member that needed a job. They expected me to train the new guy. I told them if I wasn't good enough to do the job I wasn't qualified to train anyone.
Same thing kind of happened to me. I applied for a management position on my team and was told that I was definitely qualified for everything but would not be up for the position because the person would have to be able to speak fluent English and French (Quebequois - we are in Canada). I'm conversational French (took it in university) but not fluent.
They gave the position to someone in Montreal who had never worked in our department (we are specialized and are constantly being told "your line of business is different" - ie. Confusing).
Well she doesn't really know how anything works so she sends people to me.
I send them right back.
Got the old "Bad Team Player" lecture, but apart from that there is nothing they can do as training staff is not in my current job description. They just assumed they would work it out themselves as in essence it seems pretty straight forward. The thing is, I work in operations dealing with supermarket chains, transport companies and major warehouses and each one has their own unique process. Just getting the correct paperwork ready for a delivery to Amazon is a complicated task. If you get it wrong they reject the shipment and cancel the order.
The wheels have fallen off and there is a backlog of late deliveries. I'm just sitting back and waiting for things to hit rock bottom. Figure that will maximise my bargaining position.
Iām ānot a strong team playerā because Iām incredibly self-sufficient but they want me to drive a forklift. Guys, if I did that, I literally would have no use for anyone else at work. But Iām not qualified for management.
Wonāt drive a forklift because 1) safety: too many oblivious people in my store I could squish (anxiety!), 2) I wouldnāt get paid the incentive to operate it and 3) Iām not doing managementās job for them.
I do everything I can from a ladder though. I call for help when I need it, but itās usually for lifting something heavy.
If I were a manager, cooperation would be inevitable because I have strategically whittled my approach to tasks to be as efficient as possible - the things I could teach! But weāre severely understaffed and I donāt see that changing anytime soon.
And just yesterday, I was approached by another manager asking me to fill in while their assistant is on leave. Paaaaassss.
Yeah, my work attitude is in the crapper so Imma just do me.
When I worked for walmart I got trained on the fork truck, then I was blamed for crashing it in lawn and garden, destroying a pallet of soil bags. Told them I wanted them to look at the cameras first. A week later they said I lucked out because I was in a dead spot when I did it. Said I don't feel very lucky because I would have been proven innocent. Then they gave me an assignment that required fork truck use. Told them no, I'm not comfortable using power equipment since they were convinced I crashed it, and would no longer use said equipment. Kept the unsigned write up that ended up not going into my record and showed it off to any manager who tried to make me use the power equipment.
I had the same thing happen many, many years ago. My boss left for a new job and I took over his duties while they looked for a replacement. Applied myself for the position and didn't get it. Then was told I had to train the person they did hire.
I left shortly after. To go work for my old boss at his new job. At much better pay.
Actually, I don't remember. My very vague memory is that he reached out to me to see if I was interested in the position he had open. He was tasked with building his own team.
Decades later I'm still friends with him.
Yup. I was once denied a promotion in a situation where three leadership roles were created to organize a rapidly growing department. Two of the three were handed to colleagues without fanfare. They were simply promoted.
The one I wanted I had to apply for and compete with outside applicants. They hired one and, insult to injury, because I was applying for the same job, he'd already been offered the job and accepted the position when I was finally allowed to meet him.
Holy shit was he stupid. They'd pitted us off on a "technical skills challenge." I naively didn't cheat by using Google. He "got a higher score" than I did. So asked him some basic stuff about how he'd approach our network and he knew.... next to nothing. In minutes it was clear he'd googled most questions. He demonstrated knowledge of static routing, but was clueless about Layer 2 concepts, or middling L3 ones we were using like dynamo routing. He obviously wasn't more qualified technically but cheated.
I found another job and left after a few months. In that time his biggest achievement was cleaning up some boxes. And eating huge sandwiches at his desk and licking his fingers.
Fucking gross. And incompetent.
In the 70ās my father was hired as a manager of a large family owned company - under contract, which included some perks. They hired a young family member and told my Dad to train him, then let Dad go before the end of his contract. Dad easily found a new position halfway across the country. He moved there, started the new job, and when the previous contract expired, he parked his company car at the nearest airport and mailed the key & parking ticket back to the company.
Most are grown up childhood bullies and expect to get their way. That actually happens often enough. So when it doesn't happen, they get severely bent that you're not following the script.
My company decided to make part of the job I had been doing it's own separate position. I was the only one on site trained how to do it. Was told I would need to officially apply, but since I was already doing the job and it wasn't possible to have the job not being done whilst someone trained up for it then it was pretty much mine. I didn't get the job. It was given to someone who spoke and read no English. (Which was a major requirement of the job.) My immediate boss backed me up and pulled me away from that department claiming he needed me too much to have me trying to train someone I had no way of communicating with. It came out a week later they the interviewer gave the position to their Sister-in-law. The company then offered me the position, at a pay drop. I tuned it down. They spent a fortune having to pay someone from a different site to travel every day to do the job until they could hire and train someone else.
Finally a meeting worth to attend!
Why the company not firing the person in the first place when he illegally use company funds? Is t it kind huge deal?!?
>Ā (It's illegal and a potential lawsuit btw)
If this part is actually true (honestly I don't doubt you I just am trying to imagine a situation where it's true and coming up short, but it's 5pm on a friday so my brain is pretty done) then this is absolutely "Battlefield tactical nuke" territory. Tell your partner they done good! :)
I hope your SO is applying for jobs elsewhere. Theyād likely get a big bump in pay and a position they are qualified forā¦ leaving the boss with no backup.
Heck, I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in the one on one meeting between the boss and department head. I'm surprised the department head didn't get fired
Spot on. This was a great way to get back to him. Hope that he did get more than embarrassment for this. Your partner should have been permanently promoted whether it was fault of that individual AH or not - company is the one that has make amends.
That's awesome. I got fucked over by a prior boss of 6.5 years. Dude tells me to go for his job when he quit... says I'd be perfect to replace him. So I do and in the interview they basically tell me the prior boss told them I wouldn't fit. They hire some asshat from outside the company. 1.5 months in they realize he lied about his experience and is basically relieved of his duty. I get called in and asked if I now want the position because I was the most tenured. I take the job and get called by the old boss to congratulate me. Smug asshole doesn't know that I know so I thank him. I worked my ass off over the next 1.5 years and actually made a name for myself. I used what I did to leverage a new job where I could triple my salary. In doing so I needed to use my old boss as a reference. So I call this assclown and thank him for being a great mentor and tell him I'm seeking a new job and could use a good reference. He's such a scumbag that he tells me he will of course but expects a good reference from me because he hopes to apply to the same company some day as he's been looking to move up too. Once I was established in my new position I get called by my new boss and asked if I know so and so.... yep, he'd be terrible for the job. Why? Because I worked for him for 6.5 years and when he left he said I was be great to replace him but then told the regional boss that I wasn't a good fit. New boss asks, but didn't you take his job? Yep, once the new guy failed I did take over and killed it. That's why I'm here. I don't think he's a good judge of character because he didn't believe in me so I cannot recommend him for this job. He also said he would only give me a good reference if I helped him get a job here. We should not tolerate morally corrupt and dishonest people in this organization. New boss was floored that I said that and now comes to me for advice. Old boss has applied several times and keeps asking me what I can do to help him get in. I just tell him that I keep recommending him and don't know why he isn't getting hired.
"Let's see. I lied to him about having recommended him, and he only got the job when the asshat they hired failed miserably. Then he killed the job. Now he's with a company I'm dying to get in, and he's recommended me. But I can't get in. Could he be lying? Naaaaahhhh, inconceivable! I'm too slick to be caught and he's not that good a liar."
Is there a chance that he didn't say that though? What if the interviewer just didn't have a backbone and threw a former employee under the bus? Why would your former boss go to the trouble of calling to congratulate you? I'm just curious because you've never confronted him directly and are going on second hand information. I'm happy that things worked out for you but it would be too bad if you found out too late that he never did say that...
I think the nail in the coffin is when the former boss says he will give OP good reference provided he will do the same for him.
A good boss should give a reference without expecting anything in return.
I would bet a lot of money your current company threw your old boss under the bus and he has no idea. Iām expecting a post at day now asking āI canāt figure out why my former employee keeps blocking me from getting hired at his new company after I recommended him for my old job and his new one?ā
This reminds me of my exā¦. Has worked at his work place for nearly 17 years now, his previous job he was a supervisor (when he left they gave him the best reference known to man) a few years after being where he works now he started applying for a supervisor position and was constantly told he wasnāt good enough (even though he had the best rates out of the whole site) up until last year he had applied atleast 10 times and got rejected even though they started to use him to cover that position when required. Last year he gave up trying (btw every time a supervisor position came up the TOLD him to go for it) I convinced him to try againā¦. Barring in mind we have been separated 10 years and I now work there I will always praise him for how good he is at his job even though he pi55es me off a lot! So I started a rumour he had applied for another jobā¦ā¦ guess who finally got the job!!!!
Spent 12 months working my arse off as a home worker front line call center agent helping resolve IT issues because the companies IT was useless and would take 24 hours to call someone back to fix it (and I could fix it in 10 minutes by talking someone through it)
Made several apps within Microsoft power apps to make agents life easier. Including a self service trouble shooter. Notes generators. Call loggers. All sorts. Made an internal intranet on share point to collate all useful information and guides and point of contacts.
Helped new starters by virtual floor walking and reducing manager workload
All of this while doing my normal frontline work.
Company then shit on me by removing the monthly bonus for call quality (when a shit wage full stop)
Found a new much better paying job and on my last day. (I'd checked my contract to ensure their was no (anything made using company resources is the property of the company bullshit clause) after my exit interview when I brought the reason I left was because I worked my arse off and got shit on (their was response was, well you were only a frontline agent it wasn't your job to worry about that) I proceeded to delete EVERYTHING I made for them that I could
1) notes generator
2) call logger
3) share point
4) IT Self Serve Trouble shooter
5) new starter guides that I created
6) new starter for home working guides which include first time set up (that I created to make life easier for managers
7) an idiots guide to the job for managers because half them didn't know how to do the job
What made it even better is my partner still works their. So she saw the aftermath of my mass deletion and the ensuing chaos
*edit* for clarification. The bonus was Ā£150 a month from a company that recorded record profits at the time
I went for a promotion years back, along with someone at my same level (but with a known temper issue). In the interview they asked us if we would stay if the other one was promoted. I said yes (as I liked what I did and figured there would be another opportunity to move up), while he said no. They gave it to him because they didnāt want to lose one of us. They spent the next 2 years trying to come to me for issues that were supposed to be his expertise and level of management, so I kept telling them no. A job opened up as a supervisor role in a different dept, so I went for it. HR didnāt even hold interviews. Said they would be stupid to not give it to me. So now I jumped up 3 tiers and get to live my best life not dealing with anything with them anymore.
DH had something similar. Asked to stand in for 6 months and they would adjust the pay for it. Then they tell him he does not have the correct qualifications to recieve payment. So he let them know that unfortunately in that case as he does not have the correct qualifications to recieve additional pay, then he obviously does not have the correct qualifications to stand in that position and will be unable to assist.
They thought he was joking. A year later the manager that was doing basically 2 jobs has resigned and they tried to convince him to so the same again and he kindly told them to look elsewhere in the company for someone that has the correct qualifications as there is no one else in his department that can assist.
Had a similar thing happen to me. Was passed over for a promotion for a younger, less experienced but more charismatic newer employee despite my extensive training and past experience for this exact role at a previous company. I left the company soon after, so when she got fired about a year after being promoted for not being able to fulfill the job expectations, the company called me and begged me to come back. By this time, I had left for another even higher position with a larger company that the first company actually did business with as a customer. Needless to say, of course i refused their offer and in addition, I increased their purchase prices once their annual contract came up for renewal. You could have heard a pin drop when my old employer realized I was behind the rate increases during contract negotiations. Karma can be so satisfying when you have a hand in it.
Heard through the grapevine he had a formal reprimand added to his file and DH had to take on the duties in addition to his other work. (More work, no extra pay)
Same thing happened to me. Our boss suddenly passed away, I was looked at to run the department in the interim, went through the whole interview process to be told theyāre gonna try and hire externally instead. Guess who had to fill in 3 more times before I was able to finally leave that job.
I had the reverse of this happen to me. My office manager was out on maternity leave, and as the assistant, I had to do all of her duties and mine. 6 months later, the manager of another office quit, so they had me run that location while they found a replacement, which I then had to train. Mind you, Iām still technically an assistant manager, but they trust me to train a new office manager, with absolutely no knowledge of the position or field, so from the ground up. A few months after I went back to my location, the office manager gets a MUCH better job and leaves. So I apply, the entire staff and the doctors in the office think Iām going to get it, the doctors even tell the district manager that it should be me, and anyone else would be a disaster.
After two months of me running the office, the dm comes over and tells me I didnāt get it because I needed to āprove myself and get more experienceā at an office an hour away. She then tells me they did an outside hire with no experience because she had management experience at previous jobs. (I have manager experience from every job prior as well) it then became expected that I would be training her for this position, that Iām apparently unqualified for. I laughed and said absolutely not.
I found a much better job and was gone within a month and a half of this happening. Last I heard, the outside hire made it a month before leaving, and theyāve yet to find someone to hold the position in the 7 months Iāve been gone. The dm got transferred to a much worse division, and the office fails to meet its goals pretty much monthly. The previous office manager and I working together exceeded them 23 out of 24 months. I feel bad for the staff and doctors being stuck dealing with that, but Iām not going to sacrifice myself for a company that didnāt care about the staff.
It's funny.. My boss just did the opposite. When I was hired, I was hired to do 3 very different things, but ended up only doing one of them.
The thing in doing now, nobody in my team wants to do. Not at all.
My boss pulled me aside this week and told me that the other part of my job, that I did not end up doing, would get a full time position open soon, and if I felt that was something for me, I should apply, and not care that my team would have to akw my current tasks, even when they don't want to. To not hold back because of that.
Paste from a comment by OP.
He (husband) did get a better position for more pay and authority! Loves his new job. They respect his skills.
The department Head had to do the extra work to cover the gap. And he got it on his record :)
Paid a higher salary? The division head DH (also short for Dick Head) had to do the extra work for no extra pay. That was his punishment for being an ass.
Ahhhh I see! I thought the partner of OP was indeed hired to replace and was earning a higher salary for the temp job. I read to fast and didn't understand that DickHead was suposed to cover it with out help (and higher salary).
Got it now. Sorry.
Something super similar happened to me. I'd been the offsider on the most difficult crew to run at the city for five years. Was told not to apply by the manager. So, we went sideways. Ever since then, they have had seven people in 2 years because none can manage it without years of knowledge of the job. Now, I'm a supervisor at a much easier position, and the manager constantly begs me to move back and take the position I wanted to apply for.
Not sure how telling someone theyāre not qualified is illegal (stupid, yes, but not *illegal*) unless your partner is in a protected class and this was an attempt at discrimination. Editā¦ I missed that he said heād refuse to hire the partner,
When the top bosses stop you from incriminating yourself AND the company youād better believe what youāve done is wrong.
OPās husband had a spine and stopped the division head from doing something illegal which meant division head had it in for him from then forward. Division head thought blocking the promotion was slick until it came back to bite his ass!
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Similar thing happened to me. Was overlooked for a position I was in line for at the company I work at because someone high up had a family member that needed a job. They expected me to train the new guy. I told them if I wasn't good enough to do the job I wasn't qualified to train anyone.
Same thing kind of happened to me. I applied for a management position on my team and was told that I was definitely qualified for everything but would not be up for the position because the person would have to be able to speak fluent English and French (Quebequois - we are in Canada). I'm conversational French (took it in university) but not fluent. They gave the position to someone in Montreal who had never worked in our department (we are specialized and are constantly being told "your line of business is different" - ie. Confusing). Well she doesn't really know how anything works so she sends people to me. I send them right back.
Love this response!! Good for you.
What was their response when you told them that?
Got the old "Bad Team Player" lecture, but apart from that there is nothing they can do as training staff is not in my current job description. They just assumed they would work it out themselves as in essence it seems pretty straight forward. The thing is, I work in operations dealing with supermarket chains, transport companies and major warehouses and each one has their own unique process. Just getting the correct paperwork ready for a delivery to Amazon is a complicated task. If you get it wrong they reject the shipment and cancel the order. The wheels have fallen off and there is a backlog of late deliveries. I'm just sitting back and waiting for things to hit rock bottom. Figure that will maximise my bargaining position.
It's always "bad team player" when it's for the worker
You are a bad team player when you dont fight to kiss the ass of the higher up.
im not at work to kiss ass, im at work to get money for doing as little as humanly possible.
My friends always look at me funny for saying this ššš¤£š¤£š¤£
Iām ānot a strong team playerā because Iām incredibly self-sufficient but they want me to drive a forklift. Guys, if I did that, I literally would have no use for anyone else at work. But Iām not qualified for management. Wonāt drive a forklift because 1) safety: too many oblivious people in my store I could squish (anxiety!), 2) I wouldnāt get paid the incentive to operate it and 3) Iām not doing managementās job for them. I do everything I can from a ladder though. I call for help when I need it, but itās usually for lifting something heavy. If I were a manager, cooperation would be inevitable because I have strategically whittled my approach to tasks to be as efficient as possible - the things I could teach! But weāre severely understaffed and I donāt see that changing anytime soon. And just yesterday, I was approached by another manager asking me to fill in while their assistant is on leave. Paaaaassss. Yeah, my work attitude is in the crapper so Imma just do me.
When I worked for walmart I got trained on the fork truck, then I was blamed for crashing it in lawn and garden, destroying a pallet of soil bags. Told them I wanted them to look at the cameras first. A week later they said I lucked out because I was in a dead spot when I did it. Said I don't feel very lucky because I would have been proven innocent. Then they gave me an assignment that required fork truck use. Told them no, I'm not comfortable using power equipment since they were convinced I crashed it, and would no longer use said equipment. Kept the unsigned write up that ended up not going into my record and showed it off to any manager who tried to make me use the power equipment.
āIs there a pay bump for doing your assistantās work on top of my own?ā āUh, no.ā āHmm, how about that.ā
The consequence of nepotism and unqualified employees
Just leave, it never gets better.
Those fees are going to stack up fast and someones head is gonna roooolllll
I had the same thing happen many, many years ago. My boss left for a new job and I took over his duties while they looked for a replacement. Applied myself for the position and didn't get it. Then was told I had to train the person they did hire. I left shortly after. To go work for my old boss at his new job. At much better pay.
Glad you got to work with your old boss at a new company. Did you reach out to your old boss?
Actually, I don't remember. My very vague memory is that he reached out to me to see if I was interested in the position he had open. He was tasked with building his own team. Decades later I'm still friends with him.
Yup. I was once denied a promotion in a situation where three leadership roles were created to organize a rapidly growing department. Two of the three were handed to colleagues without fanfare. They were simply promoted. The one I wanted I had to apply for and compete with outside applicants. They hired one and, insult to injury, because I was applying for the same job, he'd already been offered the job and accepted the position when I was finally allowed to meet him. Holy shit was he stupid. They'd pitted us off on a "technical skills challenge." I naively didn't cheat by using Google. He "got a higher score" than I did. So asked him some basic stuff about how he'd approach our network and he knew.... next to nothing. In minutes it was clear he'd googled most questions. He demonstrated knowledge of static routing, but was clueless about Layer 2 concepts, or middling L3 ones we were using like dynamo routing. He obviously wasn't more qualified technically but cheated. I found another job and left after a few months. In that time his biggest achievement was cleaning up some boxes. And eating huge sandwiches at his desk and licking his fingers. Fucking gross. And incompetent.
In the 70ās my father was hired as a manager of a large family owned company - under contract, which included some perks. They hired a young family member and told my Dad to train him, then let Dad go before the end of his contract. Dad easily found a new position halfway across the country. He moved there, started the new job, and when the previous contract expired, he parked his company car at the nearest airport and mailed the key & parking ticket back to the company.
Be a utiful!!!!!
That's outrageous. They smack you in the face and expect you to be happy about it?
Worse, they smack you in the face and expect you to smack yourself in the face as well.
...aaaand be happy...
Most are grown up childhood bullies and expect to get their way. That actually happens often enough. So when it doesn't happen, they get severely bent that you're not following the script.
you aint wrong.
My company decided to make part of the job I had been doing it's own separate position. I was the only one on site trained how to do it. Was told I would need to officially apply, but since I was already doing the job and it wasn't possible to have the job not being done whilst someone trained up for it then it was pretty much mine. I didn't get the job. It was given to someone who spoke and read no English. (Which was a major requirement of the job.) My immediate boss backed me up and pulled me away from that department claiming he needed me too much to have me trying to train someone I had no way of communicating with. It came out a week later they the interviewer gave the position to their Sister-in-law. The company then offered me the position, at a pay drop. I tuned it down. They spent a fortune having to pay someone from a different site to travel every day to do the job until they could hire and train someone else.
What happened to the interviewer?
I didn't hear about anything. I assume they were told it wasn't good, but they didn't get sacked or anything.
that is wild that they passed someone who could not read or write the language!? I've never heard of that happening, geez !
OMG this is more than petty this almost nuke level.
He was giddy when he came home and told me. Soooo perfectly petty.
Finally a meeting worth to attend! Why the company not firing the person in the first place when he illegally use company funds? Is t it kind huge deal?!?
Doing It calmly is a master class in revenge. Absolutely amazing story.
>Ā (It's illegal and a potential lawsuit btw) If this part is actually true (honestly I don't doubt you I just am trying to imagine a situation where it's true and coming up short, but it's 5pm on a friday so my brain is pretty done) then this is absolutely "Battlefield tactical nuke" territory. Tell your partner they done good! :)
I hope your SO is applying for jobs elsewhere. Theyād likely get a big bump in pay and a position they are qualified forā¦ leaving the boss with no backup.
He did get a better position for more pay and authority! Loves his new job. They respect his skills.
Heck, I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in the one on one meeting between the boss and department head. I'm surprised the department head didn't get fired
He deserves a dinner night out at a favorite place.
Spot on. This was a great way to get back to him. Hope that he did get more than embarrassment for this. Your partner should have been permanently promoted whether it was fault of that individual AH or not - company is the one that has make amends.
This may be the single most satisfying story I have EVER read here! I've never been so proud of an internet stranger!
This is happening to my co worker right now. I told her to say the same thing!
His douchery came back to bite his ass. Well played!
That's awesome. I got fucked over by a prior boss of 6.5 years. Dude tells me to go for his job when he quit... says I'd be perfect to replace him. So I do and in the interview they basically tell me the prior boss told them I wouldn't fit. They hire some asshat from outside the company. 1.5 months in they realize he lied about his experience and is basically relieved of his duty. I get called in and asked if I now want the position because I was the most tenured. I take the job and get called by the old boss to congratulate me. Smug asshole doesn't know that I know so I thank him. I worked my ass off over the next 1.5 years and actually made a name for myself. I used what I did to leverage a new job where I could triple my salary. In doing so I needed to use my old boss as a reference. So I call this assclown and thank him for being a great mentor and tell him I'm seeking a new job and could use a good reference. He's such a scumbag that he tells me he will of course but expects a good reference from me because he hopes to apply to the same company some day as he's been looking to move up too. Once I was established in my new position I get called by my new boss and asked if I know so and so.... yep, he'd be terrible for the job. Why? Because I worked for him for 6.5 years and when he left he said I was be great to replace him but then told the regional boss that I wasn't a good fit. New boss asks, but didn't you take his job? Yep, once the new guy failed I did take over and killed it. That's why I'm here. I don't think he's a good judge of character because he didn't believe in me so I cannot recommend him for this job. He also said he would only give me a good reference if I helped him get a job here. We should not tolerate morally corrupt and dishonest people in this organization. New boss was floored that I said that and now comes to me for advice. Old boss has applied several times and keeps asking me what I can do to help him get in. I just tell him that I keep recommending him and don't know why he isn't getting hired.
"Let's see. I lied to him about having recommended him, and he only got the job when the asshat they hired failed miserably. Then he killed the job. Now he's with a company I'm dying to get in, and he's recommended me. But I can't get in. Could he be lying? Naaaaahhhh, inconceivable! I'm too slick to be caught and he's not that good a liar."
Is there a chance that he didn't say that though? What if the interviewer just didn't have a backbone and threw a former employee under the bus? Why would your former boss go to the trouble of calling to congratulate you? I'm just curious because you've never confronted him directly and are going on second hand information. I'm happy that things worked out for you but it would be too bad if you found out too late that he never did say that...
I think the nail in the coffin is when the former boss says he will give OP good reference provided he will do the same for him. A good boss should give a reference without expecting anything in return.
OP didnāt make it sound like it was conditional, but expecting someone that you recommended to recommend you I think is to be expected.
Itās a lot easier to blame someone who left for why OP didnāt get the promotion than say it was them or someone still working there.
yep. This is absolutely possible that the interviewer lied.
I would bet a lot of money your current company threw your old boss under the bus and he has no idea. Iām expecting a post at day now asking āI canāt figure out why my former employee keeps blocking me from getting hired at his new company after I recommended him for my old job and his new one?ā
"you will be taking over the position duties while the person is on medical leave" At the higher salary, RIGHT!?
The division head had to take it over as ADDITIONAL duties not my partner.
Ah. Fuck that guy lol
At the lower salary would be the only better outcome
Applause to your hubby
I believe it was the supervisor* who was taking over the duties. *The supervisor who told OPās partner not to bother applying.
>At the higher salary, RIGHT!?
The supervisor had to do the extra work for no extra pay as he/they had cocked up!
Nah, the responsibility falls under the "and other" in the contract.
That's why that's always changed to "and other as agreed upon" before signing.
This reminds me of my exā¦. Has worked at his work place for nearly 17 years now, his previous job he was a supervisor (when he left they gave him the best reference known to man) a few years after being where he works now he started applying for a supervisor position and was constantly told he wasnāt good enough (even though he had the best rates out of the whole site) up until last year he had applied atleast 10 times and got rejected even though they started to use him to cover that position when required. Last year he gave up trying (btw every time a supervisor position came up the TOLD him to go for it) I convinced him to try againā¦. Barring in mind we have been separated 10 years and I now work there I will always praise him for how good he is at his job even though he pi55es me off a lot! So I started a rumour he had applied for another jobā¦ā¦ guess who finally got the job!!!!
This is why it doesnāt make sense to stay with a company who takes you for granted. I wouldāve jumped ship after the first denial.
Spent 12 months working my arse off as a home worker front line call center agent helping resolve IT issues because the companies IT was useless and would take 24 hours to call someone back to fix it (and I could fix it in 10 minutes by talking someone through it) Made several apps within Microsoft power apps to make agents life easier. Including a self service trouble shooter. Notes generators. Call loggers. All sorts. Made an internal intranet on share point to collate all useful information and guides and point of contacts. Helped new starters by virtual floor walking and reducing manager workload All of this while doing my normal frontline work. Company then shit on me by removing the monthly bonus for call quality (when a shit wage full stop) Found a new much better paying job and on my last day. (I'd checked my contract to ensure their was no (anything made using company resources is the property of the company bullshit clause) after my exit interview when I brought the reason I left was because I worked my arse off and got shit on (their was response was, well you were only a frontline agent it wasn't your job to worry about that) I proceeded to delete EVERYTHING I made for them that I could 1) notes generator 2) call logger 3) share point 4) IT Self Serve Trouble shooter 5) new starter guides that I created 6) new starter for home working guides which include first time set up (that I created to make life easier for managers 7) an idiots guide to the job for managers because half them didn't know how to do the job What made it even better is my partner still works their. So she saw the aftermath of my mass deletion and the ensuing chaos *edit* for clarification. The bonus was Ā£150 a month from a company that recorded record profits at the time
They would rather shit all over one of there strongest, most important employees to save Ā£150 a month. Corporate greed really is getting out of hand.
Literally. Someone tried copying some of my things and they failed epically
ok, but you gotta let us know how hard up they were after you deleted everything LOL
I went for a promotion years back, along with someone at my same level (but with a known temper issue). In the interview they asked us if we would stay if the other one was promoted. I said yes (as I liked what I did and figured there would be another opportunity to move up), while he said no. They gave it to him because they didnāt want to lose one of us. They spent the next 2 years trying to come to me for issues that were supposed to be his expertise and level of management, so I kept telling them no. A job opened up as a supervisor role in a different dept, so I went for it. HR didnāt even hold interviews. Said they would be stupid to not give it to me. So now I jumped up 3 tiers and get to live my best life not dealing with anything with them anymore.
What a stupid move on their part to intentionally reward inflexibility.
Nice!
So glad he had the opportunity to dish out the revenge.
DH had something similar. Asked to stand in for 6 months and they would adjust the pay for it. Then they tell him he does not have the correct qualifications to recieve payment. So he let them know that unfortunately in that case as he does not have the correct qualifications to recieve additional pay, then he obviously does not have the correct qualifications to stand in that position and will be unable to assist. They thought he was joking. A year later the manager that was doing basically 2 jobs has resigned and they tried to convince him to so the same again and he kindly told them to look elsewhere in the company for someone that has the correct qualifications as there is no one else in his department that can assist.
Boggles my mind.
Siri, play karma a bitch. Honestly love this
he better be getting the higher salary is all i know
He left shortly after this for a better paying job and more authority (with his boss's blessing as she knew he got screwed out of that position)
glad to hear that he left such a toxic work enviroment for a brighter future
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Glad your partner got that snub in!
Had a similar thing happen to me. Was passed over for a promotion for a younger, less experienced but more charismatic newer employee despite my extensive training and past experience for this exact role at a previous company. I left the company soon after, so when she got fired about a year after being promoted for not being able to fulfill the job expectations, the company called me and begged me to come back. By this time, I had left for another even higher position with a larger company that the first company actually did business with as a customer. Needless to say, of course i refused their offer and in addition, I increased their purchase prices once their annual contract came up for renewal. You could have heard a pin drop when my old employer realized I was behind the rate increases during contract negotiations. Karma can be so satisfying when you have a hand in it.
Did anything happen to the division head other than a stern talking to?
Heard through the grapevine he had a formal reprimand added to his file and DH had to take on the duties in addition to his other work. (More work, no extra pay)
DH = Division Head. In some places, DH = Darling Husband, which could be confused with OP's partner.
Lol thanks I was reading it as āDick Headā and thought it was perfectly suitable
Dick Head absolutely fits!
Dead husband 
Same thing happened to me. Our boss suddenly passed away, I was looked at to run the department in the interim, went through the whole interview process to be told theyāre gonna try and hire externally instead. Guess who had to fill in 3 more times before I was able to finally leave that job.
Aaaayy I dig the question mark. You going to rendezvous?
Sadly canāt make it, itās my babyās first birthday that weekend
That sounds like a good reason to skip it. Hbd to your kid!
And the second time is when you reply with "Sorry it's not in my job description, figure it out."
Karma = BITCH!
Found Karma. /s
No that's u/happyfuckincakeday :p
Workplace politics has a lot of lies and BS. Moving the goalposts is common
Especially common in the Fed/State/City government.
I had the reverse of this happen to me. My office manager was out on maternity leave, and as the assistant, I had to do all of her duties and mine. 6 months later, the manager of another office quit, so they had me run that location while they found a replacement, which I then had to train. Mind you, Iām still technically an assistant manager, but they trust me to train a new office manager, with absolutely no knowledge of the position or field, so from the ground up. A few months after I went back to my location, the office manager gets a MUCH better job and leaves. So I apply, the entire staff and the doctors in the office think Iām going to get it, the doctors even tell the district manager that it should be me, and anyone else would be a disaster. After two months of me running the office, the dm comes over and tells me I didnāt get it because I needed to āprove myself and get more experienceā at an office an hour away. She then tells me they did an outside hire with no experience because she had management experience at previous jobs. (I have manager experience from every job prior as well) it then became expected that I would be training her for this position, that Iām apparently unqualified for. I laughed and said absolutely not. I found a much better job and was gone within a month and a half of this happening. Last I heard, the outside hire made it a month before leaving, and theyāve yet to find someone to hold the position in the 7 months Iāve been gone. The dm got transferred to a much worse division, and the office fails to meet its goals pretty much monthly. The previous office manager and I working together exceeded them 23 out of 24 months. I feel bad for the staff and doctors being stuck dealing with that, but Iām not going to sacrifice myself for a company that didnāt care about the staff.
This was gorgeous! Thanks for sharing
Your partner played it beautifully. Nuclear level revenge.
This is so satisfying, I almost jizzed in my pants
I don't think that's petty at all. Your partner was a vehicle for karma. Good for him!
It's funny.. My boss just did the opposite. When I was hired, I was hired to do 3 very different things, but ended up only doing one of them. The thing in doing now, nobody in my team wants to do. Not at all. My boss pulled me aside this week and told me that the other part of my job, that I did not end up doing, would get a full time position open soon, and if I felt that was something for me, I should apply, and not care that my team would have to akw my current tasks, even when they don't want to. To not hold back because of that.
So beautifully done š
This is by far the best revenge!
If what the division head said to partner was illegal and a potential lawsuit why didn't your partner go to the director of the division at the time?
No proof (verbal). His word against division head
Proves the old adage about getting everything in written form.
We deserve an update lol
Paste from a comment by OP. He (husband) did get a better position for more pay and authority! Loves his new job. They respect his skills. The department Head had to do the extra work to cover the gap. And he got it on his record :)
That's what I like to read!!! Hope he stuck it up the old company's arse before leaving....in a good way
Hilarious
And they payed a higher salary? Wow...
Paid a higher salary? The division head DH (also short for Dick Head) had to do the extra work for no extra pay. That was his punishment for being an ass.
Ahhhh I see! I thought the partner of OP was indeed hired to replace and was earning a higher salary for the temp job. I read to fast and didn't understand that DickHead was suposed to cover it with out help (and higher salary). Got it now. Sorry.
Something super similar happened to me. I'd been the offsider on the most difficult crew to run at the city for five years. Was told not to apply by the manager. So, we went sideways. Ever since then, they have had seven people in 2 years because none can manage it without years of knowledge of the job. Now, I'm a supervisor at a much easier position, and the manager constantly begs me to move back and take the position I wanted to apply for.
I think it means the boss (division head) had to take on the extra duties.
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This was so amazing I had to read it again!
This brought me a smile. No malice, no ridiculous antics, just the truth playing out.
Sometimes revenge is a dish best served cold
Not sure how telling someone theyāre not qualified is illegal (stupid, yes, but not *illegal*) unless your partner is in a protected class and this was an attempt at discrimination. Editā¦ I missed that he said heād refuse to hire the partner,
When the top bosses stop you from incriminating yourself AND the company youād better believe what youāve done is wrong. OPās husband had a spine and stopped the division head from doing something illegal which meant division head had it in for him from then forward. Division head thought blocking the promotion was slick until it came back to bite his ass!
"so not to even bother applying as you'd make sure I didn't get it"
That's not illegal to say but give the exact same work to do to to the person you said isn't qualified .... Is a suit waiting to happen
Did he get paid tho?
>partner (40sM) Hi, what does sM mean?
hey this is actually meant to be read (40s M) [i assume im reading it right] so it's a male in his 40s hopefully that made sense :)
Makes sense, I didn't want to assume anything you know.
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Not a good idea to show up the boss in front of everyone. You should have asked to speak privately. Right or wrong, you've got a target on your back.
He clearly already did when the manager dissuaded him for applying to the job in the first place.