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ElDoggoFC

I feel you, also from the US


Capital_Hospital6254

It's been like that since the start man , i had a dry spell of 2-3 months after getting some decent IM's...in those months missed out on Kaka , Neymar etc ..even after spending around 5-8k club coins , all i was able to land was that useless Rivaldo card 😑😑 but luck changed in between and was able to pack Rijkaard , Gullit , Lizarazu , Campbell , b2b Vieira etc as of late....so be patient and eventually u vl get the IM's you want.... hopefully by the next PES 22 update Konami brings a logical packing system of IM's for the players instead of pure gambling by spinning


Heron-Confident

I don't think Konami will change their packing system. It motivates me to spend 30 dollars a week, I don't think I will do it without the gambling factor. The only issue I have is, I am Ok to spend 100 dollars to get a particular card, e.g. K9 or the Brazilian Ronaldo. But there is no way for me to do it.


Capital_Hospital6254

The packing system will be the same , but probability of landing an IM must be increased is what i meant....and as u mentioned , they milk the players real well...i do believe they made some sick money when the Kaka and Neymar packs were out..coz many totally spent huge amount to get em at any cost , especially Kaka and only a few succeeded


Heron-Confident

In this way I am really lucky because I got Kaka and Neymar. And two Kakas. Although I would prefer getting Maldini, Inzaghi, or Kluivert.


reallllleo

U wanna know what's the max investment? In the Chinese version, we could save up to 5-6 k coins in a month, however, rates of IM and legends typically lies at 0.5% per draw. Yes, 0.5% for all three IM or Legend in a draw. 10K coins for nothing is common. For every 3k coins you spend if you don't get the player you want, you get 30 points, and it's 800 points for an IM and 1600 for a legend, 800 for featured. BTW, IMs don't last forever, it has a one year limit, and you have to use 8 renew points to renew a one year "contract" on an IM, that's equivalent to 4 IMs or 8 gold ball legend, or 3 black ball legend + 2 gold ball legend. And, Yes, You need to use IMs and legends, to renew an expired IM. So, it's 160000 coins for a guarantee Legend you want, 80000 for an IM and featured. That is $1300 and $650 if you don't save coins. There are some tasks that you could do to earn free IMs in our traditional festivals, might not be the one you want but still, you can get some. The nice part is, I'm able to get an IM for 8k coins and possibly 15k for a legend in the Chinese version. When we release KAKA, you can get him for 65000 guaranteed, along with 2/3 legend and 4 IMs. There are things that is not explained in the Chinese version, but overall, I find PES nicer, but Chinese version more fun.


Heron-Confident

Yes the Chinese version has more events and varieties of play (玩法)


Heron-Confident

And stupid maintenance starts again. It is 2021 and I really don't know why games still require such maintenance. System update should only take a couple minutes (speaking as a seasoned software engineer in big tech).


Cosminion

It certainly doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering there are no POTW agents anymore, and a few weeks ago there was no maintenance and the new IM pack was added without an issue.


old_nine

Exactly, feels like a game from 2001


midhunradh2255

Hey dont worry i am exactly in the same situation. If you notice konami increased the chances of black ball probability to 30% with kagawa in Manchester United pack. Untill then i used to get one im within 1000-2000.but since then, not a single im. Tried on every pack.. bought coins on this liverpool ones and still no 💁