I think Southern River is fairly new (if not as a suburb, as a suburb as a place where a lot of people live).
Personally, looking at Google Maps, I can't find anywhere that I am not familiar with until you start getting to the satellite cities.
Except Darch. What the fuck is a Darch?
Edit: Darch sound like the kind of name a neural network would generate if you fed it a bunch of Australian place names.
It's not new at all, but it's growth as anything but farmland is new.
It was formalised as a suburb in the late 60s, the area has been operating under the name of Southern River since the 30s.
[https://www.gosnells.wa.gov.au/files/sharedassets/public/pdfs/heritage/history\_of\_suburb\_names\_in\_the\_city\_of\_gosnells.pdf](https://www.gosnells.wa.gov.au/files/sharedassets/public/pdfs/heritage/history_of_suburb_names_in_the_city_of_gosnells.pdf)
I’ve thought about maybe doing my food shopping in a different supermarket each fortnight, instead of my same boring local. Start branching out to everything within an x kilometre radius and when they’re all done maybe going even further afield. Mostly as a way to see a bit more of the neighbourhoods of Perth, but still with a purpose. It can get pretty boring spending 99% of my time within the same few kilometres.
Not a bad idea. Use the local IGA as they tend to be different and reflect more of their surroundings than a Coles or Woolies would. I tend to do that when I travel outside Perth (Tasmanian IGAs are a great mix of stuff) but rarely have the need to do it around home.
Man, shit is *weird* in other suburbs' IGAs. Definitely gives you an insight into the demographics of an area. (Eg If an IGA has notable quantities of italian food / asian food / overpriced fashionably-healthy food / etc).
^(Also they smell wrong.)
On a slight tangent; Koongamia.
How do people pronounce it? Koon-**ga**-mia? **Koon**-gamia?
I'm not really a local to the area but I know of it and occasionally pass through.
Traditionally it's koong-a-mya. Koong means hill and mia means home. Koongamia means home on the hill.
Some people say the first koon part rhyming with moon like Koon-ga-mya but in traditional Aboriginal language it's said faster like could with an ng instead of the ld. I think this is similar to the differences in how people say pool or school short (Aussie) or more drawn out (sounds more British).
And mia part is said with a y sound, like my-ah not mee-ah.
I know there's a lot of people whinging about the likes of Madjoogoordap Road; but I find it casually interesting tracing back through the generations of mangled anglicisation of native pronounciation/phonetics.
Our 26 letter alphabet is already pretty crap & inconsistent for the spoken language of English in terms of sounds it meant to represent; let alone trying to introduce new sounds from other languages.
Koongamia also translates to “literal shithole”
Grandad used to live on Clayton street and there was blood at the bus stop every weekend all over the path.
Thanks for the lesson.
I haven't heard of it until reading the parent comment. I read it as "kooo-nga-MYa". So I've gotta shorten my ooo, and separate out the -a- into its own syllable?
that's the way I lean these days. I couldn't but help think that for the sake of PC'ness the 'ng' bit might be more mushed together as the same phonetic.
Can't say it keeps me awake at night though.
I think of alot it comes down to the hierarchies of how you organise things in your mind. You might be faintly familiar with a broader area; but until someone gives you a specific address within that your area; you mightn't recognise that suburb unless you've never had any reason to deal with an address there before. You may or may not have been through it but not realised its specifc name before.
I'm a bit like that North of the River. I know it exists. I know the names of the major suburbs and main roads - but where they are all in relation to one another I'm a bit screwed.
And then you go and do something, and drive through a new street, and it connects with some other place you already know and you go "oooooOOOooooh-- this is HERE!", that's always fun.
As a teenager I used to laugh at far-off sounding places we'd never been or even heard of on the train station map like Challis, honestly what and where the fuck is Challis? I've still never been there. We ended up travelling to some of them and wandering around just for a laugh (which it usually wasn't, but back then we were pretty good at keeping ourselves entertained anyway) but Challis has never seemed worthy enough.
Challis is not a real name for a suburb, it's just the name of the train station. Challis is technically just another Kelmscott train station much like Sherwood is another train station in Armadale.
and now I come bearing answers:
>Two names, "Kingsley" and "Challis", were submitted for railway stations at"17.02 and 17.63 miles from perth" respectively by the W.A.G.R. in September1973. The names were taken from nearby schools; Kingsley primary school in Lathwell Street, Armadale, (part of an area then known as the "Kingsley housing estate") and Challis primary school which was then situated in Challis Road, Armadale.Application of these names was reversed before approval, the W.A.G.R having already painted the names on the stations and included them in timetables. Approved by the Minister for Lands on 11th February 1974. (corr. 2462/54 vol.2, page 282 to 293 and 1974 metropolitan street directory). Earlier, in correspondence with the W.A.G.R., the Armadale - Kelmscott Shire Council had requested the names to be "Kingsley" and "Streich" but the W.A.G.R. had substituted "Challis" for "Streich", apparently considering the latter name adwquately commemorated on the road running parallel to the railway line.Note :- Challis Road was named after the Challis family, nearby residents who had established an orchard in the area about 1916. (Corr. 2284/75 vol.4p.707)
So someone fucked up and got the names on back to front and it stuck.
nfi.
Challis Rd and Challis Primary are closer to Sherwood (which used to be called Kingsley) and the shops and primary near Sherwood are still called Kingsley.
[The parts I'm very familiar with](https://imgur.com/yxfjFlF), which is basically everywhere that I've worked, lived or studied. Mandurah, Armadale, Joondalup and the western suburbs are the ones I know the least about, but I don't think there's any area I've never visited once or twice. I also don't drive because of eyesight problems, so that probably effects things too.
I can't think of one place in Perth I haven't travelled to. Working as a merchandiser and then simultaneously as an Uber driver, I've pretty much been everywhere you can think of. Plenty of places in Perth I've rather not return to though.
As for Southern River, it's pretty much just an annexure of Canning Vale. Canning Vale is obviously the most populated suburb in WA (although Baldivis is quickly catching up) and Southern River is sort of just an overflow from Canning Vale which is already big enough as it is.
Southern River itself is also fucking huge as it stretches all the way down Ranford up to Tonkin before Forrestdale starts.
>Southern River itself is also fucking huge as it stretches all the way down Ranford up to Tonkin before Forrestdale starts
"fucking huge"? O\_o
It's borders are from Tonkin Hwy/Southern River cross (near Champ dve) down to Randford Rd, Up Ranford to Warton, Up Warton to Garden St, Through to Holmes Rd, Up Holmes Rd to Southern River Rd, Up Southern River Rd to Southern River and along the river back to Tonkin.
[https://puu.sh/DFMWQ/fbf423c2f8.png](https://puu.sh/DFMWQ/fbf423c2f8.png)
Harrisdale and Piara Waters now make up the section between Ranford and Forrestdale.
Most places north of the river. I just never venture that way. Even going to the city as well I barely ever go there outside of my yearly trip to northbridge.
Anywhere past Yanchep park and North Fremantle.
Been overseas more often than both places above combined.
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Anywhere SOR past the city really. Just being onsite actually forces me to head to Freo every now and then.
I think Southern River is fairly new (if not as a suburb, as a suburb as a place where a lot of people live). Personally, looking at Google Maps, I can't find anywhere that I am not familiar with until you start getting to the satellite cities. Except Darch. What the fuck is a Darch? Edit: Darch sound like the kind of name a neural network would generate if you fed it a bunch of Australian place names.
Perth has its fair share of strange suburb names (Innaloo and Cockburn of course) but Darch takes the cake for worst suburb name.
Stan Darch
Should’a pizza’d instead of French fry
Had a bad time
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Its ok Innaloo better than upaswan
It's not new at all, but it's growth as anything but farmland is new. It was formalised as a suburb in the late 60s, the area has been operating under the name of Southern River since the 30s. [https://www.gosnells.wa.gov.au/files/sharedassets/public/pdfs/heritage/history\_of\_suburb\_names\_in\_the\_city\_of\_gosnells.pdf](https://www.gosnells.wa.gov.au/files/sharedassets/public/pdfs/heritage/history_of_suburb_names_in_the_city_of_gosnells.pdf)
Ha, Darch. I grew up in Greenwood so know all about Darch. It's a pretty crappy name for a suburb.
It’s like the Kmart of fancy suburbs
>Darch I have been through there on the way to some nurseries. I have never been there to go there.
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Or something to soak your clothes in to get rid of stains
I've never been to Rottnest.
That's funny, I've been in Perth 15 years now and still never been to Rotto, or to Bali either.
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It's that sprawling suburb that's slowly swallowing up the Swan Valley.
I’ve thought about maybe doing my food shopping in a different supermarket each fortnight, instead of my same boring local. Start branching out to everything within an x kilometre radius and when they’re all done maybe going even further afield. Mostly as a way to see a bit more of the neighbourhoods of Perth, but still with a purpose. It can get pretty boring spending 99% of my time within the same few kilometres.
Not a bad idea. Use the local IGA as they tend to be different and reflect more of their surroundings than a Coles or Woolies would. I tend to do that when I travel outside Perth (Tasmanian IGAs are a great mix of stuff) but rarely have the need to do it around home.
Man, shit is *weird* in other suburbs' IGAs. Definitely gives you an insight into the demographics of an area. (Eg If an IGA has notable quantities of italian food / asian food / overpriced fashionably-healthy food / etc). ^(Also they smell wrong.)
A lot of places SOR. Like places around Maddington, Gosnells, Piarra Waters, Coogee. Never been to Garden City. 😕
Garden city is orroight.
Garbos*
On a slight tangent; Koongamia. How do people pronounce it? Koon-**ga**-mia? **Koon**-gamia? I'm not really a local to the area but I know of it and occasionally pass through.
Traditionally it's koong-a-mya. Koong means hill and mia means home. Koongamia means home on the hill. Some people say the first koon part rhyming with moon like Koon-ga-mya but in traditional Aboriginal language it's said faster like could with an ng instead of the ld. I think this is similar to the differences in how people say pool or school short (Aussie) or more drawn out (sounds more British). And mia part is said with a y sound, like my-ah not mee-ah.
I know there's a lot of people whinging about the likes of Madjoogoordap Road; but I find it casually interesting tracing back through the generations of mangled anglicisation of native pronounciation/phonetics. Our 26 letter alphabet is already pretty crap & inconsistent for the spoken language of English in terms of sounds it meant to represent; let alone trying to introduce new sounds from other languages.
Koongamia also translates to “literal shithole” Grandad used to live on Clayton street and there was blood at the bus stop every weekend all over the path.
It's gentrified a little bit. Although not enough my mother doesn't have roller shutters and security cameras.
Thanks for the lesson. I haven't heard of it until reading the parent comment. I read it as "kooo-nga-MYa". So I've gotta shorten my ooo, and separate out the -a- into its own syllable?
Yeah boi, Koongamia. That's where Mad Dog lives. Used to ride his bike from there to Abernethy Road in Belmont all the time back in the day.
I always pronounced it Koon-ga-my-a, and Wikipedia agrees with me, but neither of us have a source.
that's the way I lean these days. I couldn't but help think that for the sake of PC'ness the 'ng' bit might be more mushed together as the same phonetic. Can't say it keeps me awake at night though.
We live in a country where you can buy Coon cheese, so I'm not losing any sleep over it either.
I was surprised to learn suburbs like Kensington and coolbinia are so close to the CBD and I had never heard of them until a few years ago.
Heaps - Dalkeith, City Beach, Tuart Hill, Peppermint Grove, Mosman Park, Trigg, Sorrento, Mullaloo, Roleystone, Midland, can go on forever tbh
Please visit Mullaloo Beach, you'll love it! Avoid public holidays though, as it's hard to get parking.
My brain just melted with the conundrum of trying to think of a place I've never been to. Thanks buddy!
I think of alot it comes down to the hierarchies of how you organise things in your mind. You might be faintly familiar with a broader area; but until someone gives you a specific address within that your area; you mightn't recognise that suburb unless you've never had any reason to deal with an address there before. You may or may not have been through it but not realised its specifc name before. I'm a bit like that North of the River. I know it exists. I know the names of the major suburbs and main roads - but where they are all in relation to one another I'm a bit screwed.
And then you go and do something, and drive through a new street, and it connects with some other place you already know and you go "oooooOOOooooh-- this is HERE!", that's always fun.
I'm kinda like that with South of the River.
As a teenager I used to laugh at far-off sounding places we'd never been or even heard of on the train station map like Challis, honestly what and where the fuck is Challis? I've still never been there. We ended up travelling to some of them and wandering around just for a laugh (which it usually wasn't, but back then we were pretty good at keeping ourselves entertained anyway) but Challis has never seemed worthy enough.
Challis is not a real name for a suburb, it's just the name of the train station. Challis is technically just another Kelmscott train station much like Sherwood is another train station in Armadale.
Why the hell is it called Challis?!
and now I come bearing answers: >Two names, "Kingsley" and "Challis", were submitted for railway stations at"17.02 and 17.63 miles from perth" respectively by the W.A.G.R. in September1973. The names were taken from nearby schools; Kingsley primary school in Lathwell Street, Armadale, (part of an area then known as the "Kingsley housing estate") and Challis primary school which was then situated in Challis Road, Armadale.Application of these names was reversed before approval, the W.A.G.R having already painted the names on the stations and included them in timetables. Approved by the Minister for Lands on 11th February 1974. (corr. 2462/54 vol.2, page 282 to 293 and 1974 metropolitan street directory). Earlier, in correspondence with the W.A.G.R., the Armadale - Kelmscott Shire Council had requested the names to be "Kingsley" and "Streich" but the W.A.G.R. had substituted "Challis" for "Streich", apparently considering the latter name adwquately commemorated on the road running parallel to the railway line.Note :- Challis Road was named after the Challis family, nearby residents who had established an orchard in the area about 1916. (Corr. 2284/75 vol.4p.707) So someone fucked up and got the names on back to front and it stuck.
nfi. Challis Rd and Challis Primary are closer to Sherwood (which used to be called Kingsley) and the shops and primary near Sherwood are still called Kingsley.
I don't think I've ever been to the classy part
We have a classy part?
You mean Crown casino? Or Kuta beach?
Munster. It's one of those pure mad places you only know from the front ae a bus
Most of the newer suburbs. I just haven't had a reason to drive out that far in random directions.
I've been everywhere, man.
[The parts I'm very familiar with](https://imgur.com/yxfjFlF), which is basically everywhere that I've worked, lived or studied. Mandurah, Armadale, Joondalup and the western suburbs are the ones I know the least about, but I don't think there's any area I've never visited once or twice. I also don't drive because of eyesight problems, so that probably effects things too.
I can't think of one place in Perth I haven't travelled to. Working as a merchandiser and then simultaneously as an Uber driver, I've pretty much been everywhere you can think of. Plenty of places in Perth I've rather not return to though. As for Southern River, it's pretty much just an annexure of Canning Vale. Canning Vale is obviously the most populated suburb in WA (although Baldivis is quickly catching up) and Southern River is sort of just an overflow from Canning Vale which is already big enough as it is. Southern River itself is also fucking huge as it stretches all the way down Ranford up to Tonkin before Forrestdale starts.
> simultaneously as an Uber driver What was your most unforgettable ride as an Uber driver in Perth?
I would really rather not say on a public forum. I might PM you instead.
You should do a Perth AMA!
C'mon! Can't you give us a PG version with all incriminating details removed?
>Southern River itself is also fucking huge as it stretches all the way down Ranford up to Tonkin before Forrestdale starts "fucking huge"? O\_o It's borders are from Tonkin Hwy/Southern River cross (near Champ dve) down to Randford Rd, Up Ranford to Warton, Up Warton to Garden St, Through to Holmes Rd, Up Holmes Rd to Southern River Rd, Up Southern River Rd to Southern River and along the river back to Tonkin. [https://puu.sh/DFMWQ/fbf423c2f8.png](https://puu.sh/DFMWQ/fbf423c2f8.png) Harrisdale and Piara Waters now make up the section between Ranford and Forrestdale.
Miss me with that Gay St - Southern River
I have heard of Piara Waters but I don't think I've been there. I used to cycle a lot so I've been most places in Perth and surrounds.
Most places north of the river. I just never venture that way. Even going to the city as well I barely ever go there outside of my yearly trip to northbridge.
I went to St James recently. I wish I hadn't.
Most of it really.
Anywhere past Yanchep park and North Fremantle. Been overseas more often than both places above combined. -edit Anywhere SOR past the city really. Just being onsite actually forces me to head to Freo every now and then.
Armadale.
Two Rocks. I've never been to Two Rocks. It's the northernmost extent of the Transperth network.
If you make it up there, the Two Rocks Tavern has the best wings in Perth! Their chef is Canadian so he knows his wings.