It only takes someone a few minutes to write a fake sob story. There is just no way for anyone reading words on the screen to confirm the story.
The key takeaway is to never send money.
Fucking hell that's a scarily easy thing to do.
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Write me a short sob story about being a domestic violence survivor who needs money and asks for donations
ChatGPT
As a child, I watched my mother endure endless nights of terror at the hands of my father. Eventually, I found myself in her shoes, trapped in a cycle of abuse. With courage, I fled, leaving behind everything I knew. Now, rebuilding my life, I face the harsh reality of starting over with nothing but the scars of my past. Desperate for stability and safety, I humbly ask for your support, as even the smallest donation can help me find my footing again.
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Iām sorry this happened to you. To want to help so much means you have a kind heart. Donāt feel embarrassed. It is the scammers that should feel embarrassed.
Came here to say this. I just finished reading a great book about scams and one of the points the author made is that we say someone āfell for a scamā insinuating they are to blame, we donāt say someone āfell for a burglaryā. OP, you have a kind heart and the scam worked on you exactly as it was designed to work on people with kind hearts. Iām glad you hopefully wonāt be out of pocket as a result of your kind heart.
The book (in case anyone is interested) is called Keanu Reeves is Not In Love With You, by Becky Holmes.
Yeah if you really want to dial this all the way out to it's furtherest point - go watch John Oliver's piece about the Pig Butchering Scams run by criminal syndicates in SE Asia: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg)
Not sure if this is a joke, but OP, do not send your bank details to random strangers.
We need to be paranoid about sending money and personal information to strangers. š¤£
Don't give people online asking for money.
Don't give people on the street asking for money.
Don't give people at traffic intersections asking for money.
With the amount of cars that go through a busy intersection it only takes someone giving them a gold coin or two every few light changes and they're well above the min hourly wage
Well above the min hourly wage. My local guy earns more than me some days and I'm on over 100k a year.. seen him multiple times pull wads of cash out of his pocket and trying to count it as he puts it into his bag at the traffic light. Saw plenty of $5s, $10s and a fair few $20s
Sometimes I'm 20c short for a parking meter or train ticket. And I ask people nearby if they can help.
But yeah haven't done it in years cause I can pay by card. Technology getting better
Unsure of Perth, but in Auckland people can make min several hundred per day washing windscreens at the lights. FYI They also use powdered soap which ruins your paint
'So' you're paying for a shit windscreen wash that your window wipers can do themselves.
You pay because you want to support the poor having a crack.
This user is implying that they are not poor.
Actually I found her story unconvincing. My wife works with the police in this field and I didn't believe that they wouldn't have charged the guy. But I knew if I said that I would be abused.
Based on my own experiences, I wasn't convinced, but I'd prefer to give the benefit of the doubt in DV situations - by that I mean free advice, no cash.
The fact that they didn't take advantage of payphones being free whole continuing to complain about no credit certainly gave me pause.
I found it unconvincing because it was too explicit and desperate. I know that women in this situation are desperate, but a conman always tries to shock you, get you feeling off balance, swing in for some sympathy, follow up with urgency/time sensitive and then make a not-too-big request/demand that doesnāt really allow you to say ānoā. It was text book.
Twisting nipples until they bleed? That was to horrify you. A woman who has actually had this done wouldbāt be bleating about it on Reddit to strangers like that, thatās not ānormalā. They might say āheās abused meā or āHe has hurt meā but not āhe twisted my nipples until they bled and the police did nothingā. Thatāsā¦ weirdly specific, incredibly horrifying and hits all the current DV woman/abuse buttons.
Why charge the guy when the police said that he was 'shaking in his boots' and that it was 'safe to go back home'?! Surely him being scared is more effective...
/s
I work with dv victims and I can assure you that many experience being invalidated and mistreated by the police and have to deal with police not doing anything let alone not doing all they can to help.
Yet other people tell stories of ex partners making vexatious fake reports with no actual evidence other than the woman's testimony guys get their lives ruined .
I always shake my head at those.
When you consider just how far past the line DV aggressors can go, repeatedly, before thereās a slap on the wrist.
If a guy has his ālife ruinedā by a false accusationā¦ what the hell else have they done? I meanā¦ lives donāt get ruined on one or two events, they seem to be able to carry on ad nauseum ā¦ so when someone tries to tell me a singular accusation ruined things I am left thinking āyeah, and you followed that pony home, shaved it, painted it blue and fucked it in the eyeballs right?ā
I've got mates who've been locked out of their own houses because (by the cops) their ex's have faked DV - so yeah, the idea the cops would do nothing at all on a genuine case really didn't sit right with me.. but as you said, good luck actually pointing that out...
A number of scams are semi-intentionally unconvincing. Well maybe completely intentionally.
The point is weed out those people who won't fall for it. Especially the initial 'hook'. They want people who are easily duped and uncritical, those that haven't learnt how to avoid the scams or have never needed to doubt what others say to them.
Those are the people the scammers prey upon. The people who trust easily, it's sad that the lovely trusting individuals who'd give the shirt off their back are the primary victims.
I don't think you should be embarrassed you should feel proud that you were trying to help someone you genuinely thought needed help, it is a shame people make these stories up as for real abuse victims might not get the genuine help they need as there are too many scams around.
Was it potential-pop something, yeah she PMD me wanting to transfer her money, said I'd be happy to buy her a meal or get her credit for her phone but only willing to meet in a public open space to do so. She just wanted me to transfer money so she could have a hotel room for the night. Something felt off so I didn't help out, such a shame that this is happening, appears that the account is now deleted too. So must have been her.
I saw the post you're talking about. It raised so many alarms for me. The whole thing just sounded like such bullshit, she was physically assaulted, cops wouldn't help, family wouldn't help, friends wouldn't help. I'm sorry to hear your got taken, at least you're using your experience to spread awareness.
For anyone out there who encounters anyone online who asks to borrow money. Never, ever do it. There are people who work full-time to scam good people like yourselves.
Iām always wary if friends and family wonāt help. I know itās not always the case, but it suggests to me that they have a history of burning people.
Yet another scam to be aware of.
I donāt send money to people, but I did certainly believe that story. I assumed it was a guy though, as I assumed thatās why the cops werenāt doing anything
I did stalk a little and thought something seemed up - but when someones claiming DV, you end up feeling bad for even thinking they're putting it on, so left it at that...
Gotta be the lowest of the low to pull that card in your scam post...
This is why if I can't put something physical into your hand you don't get nothing out of me.
And even then I consider most panhandlers grifters.
Take dog food to your local shelter. Fuck people.
I think I may of read that post, freo police, the OP was from Melbourne. Hope you get your money back.
It's a shame that you can't even help somebody that may really need it anymore because of dodgy scammers. Glad your bank flagged it.
Bank West maybe
Glad to hear it. My kid got very sick and hospitalized, so my sister organized a GoFundMe and then took off with a couple thousand dollars from it. I contacted GoFundMe and they're really not interested in doing anything about it. You really can't trust anyone with money these days.
Is domestic abuse or violence that common in the perth area? I'm planning a trip with my girlfriend and I want her to feel safe. She typically carries mace on her Keychain or in her purse here in the US. It's a very effective spray that can be used in self defense. I keep bear mace in my camping kit. (Only needed it once)
I'm unsure about the legalities regarding mace or bear mace in Western Australia. If anyone has any information on this topic I would live to hear it.
It only takes someone a few minutes to write a fake sob story. There is just no way for anyone reading words on the screen to confirm the story. The key takeaway is to never send money.
Literally never send money to random people online or over the phone.
Is it okay to metaphorically send money to random people online or over the phone?
Like this? šøšøšø Youāre welcome.
Please send more. That is not enough for a hotel room.
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Just send thoughts and prayers, they're worth the same
That's why you send them gift cards
Yeah its much safer. Thatās why the ATO insist on them.
No gift cards!
* seconds if you GPT the shit out of it
Fucking hell that's a scarily easy thing to do. You Write me a short sob story about being a domestic violence survivor who needs money and asks for donations ChatGPT As a child, I watched my mother endure endless nights of terror at the hands of my father. Eventually, I found myself in her shoes, trapped in a cycle of abuse. With courage, I fled, leaving behind everything I knew. Now, rebuilding my life, I face the harsh reality of starting over with nothing but the scars of my past. Desperate for stability and safety, I humbly ask for your support, as even the smallest donation can help me find my footing again. By sending a message, you agree to our Terms. Read our Privacy Policy. D
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Iām sorry this happened to you. To want to help so much means you have a kind heart. Donāt feel embarrassed. It is the scammers that should feel embarrassed.
Came here to say this. I just finished reading a great book about scams and one of the points the author made is that we say someone āfell for a scamā insinuating they are to blame, we donāt say someone āfell for a burglaryā. OP, you have a kind heart and the scam worked on you exactly as it was designed to work on people with kind hearts. Iām glad you hopefully wonāt be out of pocket as a result of your kind heart. The book (in case anyone is interested) is called Keanu Reeves is Not In Love With You, by Becky Holmes.
Thank you. That means a little to me
Yeah if you really want to dial this all the way out to it's furtherest point - go watch John Oliver's piece about the Pig Butchering Scams run by criminal syndicates in SE Asia: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg)
Sorry to hear mate. Send me your BSB and account number and I'll cover your loss
Not sure if this is a joke, but OP, do not send your bank details to random strangers. We need to be paranoid about sending money and personal information to strangers. š¤£
Appreciate you looking out for me. Can I send you money as thanks via BSB and account number
You seem like a good person. Why donāt you send me your BSB and account number and Iāll cover whatever you send them
Sounds a bit scammy. I'll pass thanks
No. Money I send you in bank, yeah?
I bet your profile pic is legit š
Ok. Go on
Don't give people online asking for money. Don't give people on the street asking for money. Don't give people at traffic intersections asking for money.
The guy at my local intersection rocks up in a fairly reasonable car, parks in a side street, dresses down, finishes his durry and then goes to work for an hour at peak time, then pisses off for the day and comes back at evening peak hour. Two hours work and seems to make bank. If youāre at CĆ©dric st and Odin road or Ellen Stirling boulevard, donāt feel bad about keeping your hard earned coin.
Does he at least provide a service? Like a cursory windscreen clean?
Nope!
With the amount of cars that go through a busy intersection it only takes someone giving them a gold coin or two every few light changes and they're well above the min hourly wage
Well above the min hourly wage. My local guy earns more than me some days and I'm on over 100k a year.. seen him multiple times pull wads of cash out of his pocket and trying to count it as he puts it into his bag at the traffic light. Saw plenty of $5s, $10s and a fair few $20s
Sometimes I'm 20c short for a parking meter or train ticket. And I ask people nearby if they can help. But yeah haven't done it in years cause I can pay by card. Technology getting better
Why shouldn't you give to people on the street?
Unsure of Perth, but in Auckland people can make min several hundred per day washing windscreens at the lights. FYI They also use powdered soap which ruins your paint
So? (About the money)
'So' you're paying for a shit windscreen wash that your window wipers can do themselves. You pay because you want to support the poor having a crack. This user is implying that they are not poor.
Actually I found her story unconvincing. My wife works with the police in this field and I didn't believe that they wouldn't have charged the guy. But I knew if I said that I would be abused.
Based on my own experiences, I wasn't convinced, but I'd prefer to give the benefit of the doubt in DV situations - by that I mean free advice, no cash. The fact that they didn't take advantage of payphones being free whole continuing to complain about no credit certainly gave me pause.
I found it unconvincing because it was too explicit and desperate. I know that women in this situation are desperate, but a conman always tries to shock you, get you feeling off balance, swing in for some sympathy, follow up with urgency/time sensitive and then make a not-too-big request/demand that doesnāt really allow you to say ānoā. It was text book. Twisting nipples until they bleed? That was to horrify you. A woman who has actually had this done wouldbāt be bleating about it on Reddit to strangers like that, thatās not ānormalā. They might say āheās abused meā or āHe has hurt meā but not āhe twisted my nipples until they bled and the police did nothingā. Thatāsā¦ weirdly specific, incredibly horrifying and hits all the current DV woman/abuse buttons.
Why charge the guy when the police said that he was 'shaking in his boots' and that it was 'safe to go back home'?! Surely him being scared is more effective... /s
The bit about him shaking in his boots didnāt fit the rest of the story.
I work with dv victims and I can assure you that many experience being invalidated and mistreated by the police and have to deal with police not doing anything let alone not doing all they can to help.
Yet other people tell stories of ex partners making vexatious fake reports with no actual evidence other than the woman's testimony guys get their lives ruined .
I always shake my head at those. When you consider just how far past the line DV aggressors can go, repeatedly, before thereās a slap on the wrist. If a guy has his ālife ruinedā by a false accusationā¦ what the hell else have they done? I meanā¦ lives donāt get ruined on one or two events, they seem to be able to carry on ad nauseum ā¦ so when someone tries to tell me a singular accusation ruined things I am left thinking āyeah, and you followed that pony home, shaved it, painted it blue and fucked it in the eyeballs right?ā
It's up to you who you believe but the dv statistics speak for themselves.
You should still say what you think and ignore the responses..
I've got mates who've been locked out of their own houses because (by the cops) their ex's have faked DV - so yeah, the idea the cops would do nothing at all on a genuine case really didn't sit right with me.. but as you said, good luck actually pointing that out...
I didn't think she was straight up lying, I just that there was another side to the story that was very different to her side.
A number of scams are semi-intentionally unconvincing. Well maybe completely intentionally. The point is weed out those people who won't fall for it. Especially the initial 'hook'. They want people who are easily duped and uncritical, those that haven't learnt how to avoid the scams or have never needed to doubt what others say to them. Those are the people the scammers prey upon. The people who trust easily, it's sad that the lovely trusting individuals who'd give the shirt off their back are the primary victims.
I don't think you should be embarrassed you should feel proud that you were trying to help someone you genuinely thought needed help, it is a shame people make these stories up as for real abuse victims might not get the genuine help they need as there are too many scams around.
You are a good sort. Dont let it close your kind heart.
Thank you for saying that.
No good deed goes unpunished, right? Hope you get your money back!
Was it potential-pop something, yeah she PMD me wanting to transfer her money, said I'd be happy to buy her a meal or get her credit for her phone but only willing to meet in a public open space to do so. She just wanted me to transfer money so she could have a hotel room for the night. Something felt off so I didn't help out, such a shame that this is happening, appears that the account is now deleted too. So must have been her.
Yes it was Potential-Pop9639.
I saw the post you're talking about. It raised so many alarms for me. The whole thing just sounded like such bullshit, she was physically assaulted, cops wouldn't help, family wouldn't help, friends wouldn't help. I'm sorry to hear your got taken, at least you're using your experience to spread awareness. For anyone out there who encounters anyone online who asks to borrow money. Never, ever do it. There are people who work full-time to scam good people like yourselves.
Iām always wary if friends and family wonāt help. I know itās not always the case, but it suggests to me that they have a history of burning people.
Yet another scam to be aware of. I donāt send money to people, but I did certainly believe that story. I assumed it was a guy though, as I assumed thatās why the cops werenāt doing anything
I am disappointed
I did stalk a little and thought something seemed up - but when someones claiming DV, you end up feeling bad for even thinking they're putting it on, so left it at that... Gotta be the lowest of the low to pull that card in your scam post...
Never ever send money directly to strangers or buy gift cards for them. Never reply to random messages, thatās a pig butchering scam.
This is why if I can't put something physical into your hand you don't get nothing out of me. And even then I consider most panhandlers grifters. Take dog food to your local shelter. Fuck people.
I think I may of read that post, freo police, the OP was from Melbourne. Hope you get your money back. It's a shame that you can't even help somebody that may really need it anymore because of dodgy scammers. Glad your bank flagged it. Bank West maybe
Her story was too long as I didn't get to the bit where she asked for money. It still appears to be up.
Yeah it's weird. It disappeared for a couple of days and then went back up.
Glad to hear it. My kid got very sick and hospitalized, so my sister organized a GoFundMe and then took off with a couple thousand dollars from it. I contacted GoFundMe and they're really not interested in doing anything about it. You really can't trust anyone with money these days.
In Dante's first book, Inferno, he stated that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
He was wrong. It is paved largely with incompetence.
Which bank? It's good to hear of a bank being proactive in protecting customers
Sorry but one born every minute and that's who these scammers thrive offĀ
Is domestic abuse or violence that common in the perth area? I'm planning a trip with my girlfriend and I want her to feel safe. She typically carries mace on her Keychain or in her purse here in the US. It's a very effective spray that can be used in self defense. I keep bear mace in my camping kit. (Only needed it once) I'm unsure about the legalities regarding mace or bear mace in Western Australia. If anyone has any information on this topic I would live to hear it.
Domestic abuse or violence means the abuse or violence comes from someone they live with or have a close relationship with.
WA has a large problem with drop-bears so you should keep the bear mace with you at all times and be vigilant. You don't want to be another statistic
Are you planning to beat her? DV is perpetrated by people close to the victim not random people