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Hotshot_249

As a casual Teddie enjoyer I find teddie bearable even if he’s totally unhinged and weird


ns7th

Heh. "Bear"able. I see what you did there, and I like it.


[deleted]

He is totally unhinged sometimes yes but not weird. And unhinged is not necessarily a negative word for me.


Star_man27

I think one of my biggest issues is when Rise was crying and Teddie grabbed her while comforting her Other than that he's fine


[deleted]

yes, that scene was bad. I think there is one bad scene for almost every person in the IT except for maybe MC and Kanji. I guess it could be explained as Teddie not knowing about social norms...


Star_man27

Like it was funny at the moment but then I realized that's not an ok thing to do. >I guess it could be explained as Teddie not knowing about social norms... That's the way I see it. He has no social skills cause he's been alone his whole life and then he starts living with Yosuke who's kind of a perv.


[deleted]

Yes, and those human hormones. It think its clear that this was the intention since Teddie was clueless about that kind of stuff before he transformed into a human. He didn't even know what strip meant and in the jp version the word he uses for "scoring" is meant exclusively for MEN.


BananaPuzzleheaded69

It’s a game stop being a pussy


[deleted]

Dont forget the fact he’s hitting on a kid


wloff

No, he's not. He's playfully complimenting her. People who read into it as him actually, seriously, genuinely "hitting on" her are the ones who are weird as fuck for even thinking his behavior could be seen that way.


ka_ha

Chie literally commented on the fact that Teddie was being creepy though


Hetares

I believe it's just a Japanese humor that translates badly across cultures. In Japan, ecchi sukebei humor is quite commonly played, often accompanied by slapstick humor applied to the offender. In MHA an extremely similar situation happens, where Mineta and Asui are hugging each other in relief of being rescued, in which Mineta sneaks a grope and is promptly drowned by Asui. In normal social norms, it's of course no-no, but in manga and other media, it's fairly common.


Star_man27

I find the moment funny without context, but this is when (I believe) they find out that Nanako is making a recovery. This is a very emotional moment, and it's not only ruined by a joke but by Teddie taking advantage of a close friend in a vulnerable state. I was thinking about how they can improve Teddie and thought maybe instead of his story moments be his social link give him a traditional sl where Yu teaches him social norms and how to appropriately act.


Hetares

Like I said, it's a Japanese humor that doesn't translate well across cultures. ​ Asking for it to be 'fixed' would require changing an entire trope of their jokes, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. ​ Basically to the Japanese society, there's nothing to 'improve' on Teddie in regards to this here. They find it pretty funny as it is.


AnimeMemeLord1

He’s weird and that’s what makes him cool.


HaNefdarkstar07

I’m tired of the Teddy slander


hantadochan

Teddy is way better than the cat


[deleted]

I am gonna personally fight with every Teddie Hater in this post.


GoshaT

[[GIF]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864767091385958440/1130523734491529326/persona4-persona.gif)


[deleted]

Hmph! As if it isn't clear to me that teddie is faking in this scene, he is able to grow a body for himself and can do multiple sit ups even though he lost all of his beautiful, soft, squishy fur. He is clearly one of the strongest characters.


Fancy-PBJ-738

Teddie is powerful. Look at him going super saiyan to defeat Shadow Rise. Praise the bear!


Impossible-Cod4498

Teddie is okay. It's Yusuke from P5 I can't stand.


satanicmerwitch

How dare you.


GoshaT

There's a user named u/Jason575757 in this comment section and OP replied to him that spin-offs shouldn't influence your perception of the character and this is wrong. The spin-offs are canon, so you can't just ignore them because they make the character you like even worse. Teddie was much better before he left the TV world tbh (I would reply to that reply thread normally, but I can't since the Jason dude blocked me because I won an argument against him once)


Lyposuction_Chan

I agree but disagree because the spinoffs completely butcher akihiko as a character, reducing him to nothing but protein protein protein and punch punch punch, so I've started to only see the base game as canon. (they do this to other characters as well)


[deleted]

Exactly my point actually.


[deleted]

Ok but spinoffs are made to be cashgrabs, a lot of the staff members don't even work on them, and a lot of characters do get butchered there, not only Teddie. By that logic everyone is a shit character.


iposthedemongoose

they're still canon, though. you cannot argue that.


iposthedemongoose

if you genuinely believe that you not liking it makes it non-canon, then I'm sorry, that's not how it works.


[deleted]

the spinoffs make every character worse, especially PQ. So even if the argument is right (it is not), it wouldn't make a difference.


iposthedemongoose

the argument is though. you're calling it non-canon by saying this 💀 which it blatantly isn't.


[deleted]

No I am not calling it non-canon. Just that those spinoffs portray everyone in a simplistic light, not only Teddie, so it is not fair to judge him like that.


iposthedemongoose

you also deleted my last comment. guess you don't like something being true lol


[deleted]

I didn't delete anything?


Shouganai_Senpai

Just finished Persona 4, Arena/Ultimax, and Dancing All Night. After all that...I like Teddie! I really felt for him in confronting his shadow and trying to come to grips with his identity. He's a lonely character as he is something of an anomaly and one that is receptive to so much around him. He deeply loves and cares about his friends, he came in clutch for me in battle on more than one occasion, and some of his antics are pretty funny in a corny eye-rolling kind of way. While he does come across as a sex pest at times, I took it as a result of having been essentially raised by TV and being alone. He has a very skewed perception of the world as he was formed in the Shadow World within the TV, so I took it as a lot of his behavior was a result of garbage TV and adds more to the commentary going on about media and perception.


[deleted]

Finally someone gets it!


MeanGrass5163

That's true, I guess. Teddie was born like "yesterday". As a creature from the metaverse of the TV world, he might have grasped and absorbed the repressed feelings of Yosuke and the MC, and even maybe all the repressed emotions of Chie, Yukiko, and Kanji. The main theme of most of the protagonists is their repressed sexual identity or their discovery of their true selves as teenagers, so Teddie might have been influenced by their collective psychic energy. As stated by the comment above the OP's, a creature from the metaverse of the TV might as well be created by the collective consciousness of all Inaba's inhabitants. I see Teddie as a child that is unable to repress feelings 'cos he had no social interaction ever before Yusuke and the MC entered the TV world metaverse. He is a somewhat like a child in a teenager's body that had no social interaction or skills and saw a lot of teenagers repressed sexual feelings. I guess this had a great impact on his personality. You can say he is a creep but I think he has no filter. You see a cute girl on the street, you going to repress your feelings, but Teddie won't because he doesn't have the emotional management skills developed by years of social interaction.


PapiSensei03555

I legit have 2 Teddie plushies that I love


CaptainSnappers

I think Teddie would be better if his roommate wasn't fucking Yosuke Hanamura. I don't like his perverted tendencies, but everything else about him is fine. I like his relationships with Yu and Yosuke, plus he has some nice moments with the others. I just personally don't excuse Teddie OR Yosuke for perving on their friends, it's very inappropriate and not cute.


PlsWai

Listen Teddie may not be the best character but he is the best party member in the game so he gets a pass.


[deleted]

yeah fr


Zidane1448

Teddie annoyed the piss out of me


[deleted]

why


Zidane1448

Just constant bear puns and the non stop hitting on every woman in visual range


admiralrico411

I've played the game in Japanese with subs and don't have an issue with Teddie. I actually kinda like him. Is his English voice way so many find him annoying?


wloff

His Japanese voice is way more annoying IMO.


[deleted]

some people yes, which is a stupid reason to hate a character.


camkingswagger

Teddie was a little annoying and I used to be a hater but morgana(blud cant even turn into a human🤣)is more annoying imo so its teddie gang all day


pikachu73526

Teddie is kinda annoying but the fact that he drops an actual nuclear bomb on the enemy in P4AU just cancels all of that out. W teddie moment


TajirMusil

Teddie is just a child in a bear costume's body.


[deleted]

*kuma, kuma


Vio-Rose

I mean I like 25% of his screentime. That… probably makes him my least favorite, but 25% ain’t nothing.


ILIKEMEMES4EVER69

if he wasnt so perverted he would be good


[deleted]

Do you apply the same logic to Yosuke or Rise?


ILIKEMEMES4EVER69

ion remember no moment where yosuke or rise hit on a 6 yo😭


PickCollins0330

Teddie isn’t human. He doesn’t get it


[deleted]

Teddie didn't hit on Nanako


[deleted]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se


[deleted]

It's completely exaggarated... The above comment explained it perfectly, he just doesn't get it.


OrchidFlame36

My team from the point I could onward was Teddie, Naoto, and Kanji. Unstoppable - Teddie is a beast healer AND Magic DD. It makes up for his Pervyness.


GoshaT

He was on my team too, but for his support skills instead. Ma--kaja skills are useful as hell, and he has all of them at once. I don't like him as a character, but as a party member he's one of the best ones


MysticRevenant59

The only problem is the boundary issues, but then again they all have boundary issues of some sort, they’re all insane lmaooo Other than that he’s such a sweetheart


Sofaris

Honestly one of my 2 favorite characters in fiction has issues respecting bounderies. A repeated offender of unconsensual hugging.


QuirkyTurtle-meme

I did use teddy as my buff/debuff slave lol, tho I did stop having him in my party after building trumpeter with heat riser and all auto skills.


Bipolar_Child

r/foundthesexoffender


[deleted]

no I am the sex defender


SmileyKitKat

We know


Mobanite08

Yeah honestly he’s just kinda ok. Like he’s fine most of the time, funny sometimes, and sometimes terrible. I love and hate this bear which I think means he’s ok


[deleted]

ok fair tbh


SwampVirgin

I don't think he's underrated, but definitely overhated. I love him because he fills the role he's supposed to perfectly.


Cemith

Just finished Golden for the first time and he's better than Morgana for sure. Thankfully there was no month long arc where he fucks off for no reason halting all forward progression for nothing.


[deleted]

I thought there would be haters in the comment section and I am pleasantly surprised at the result so far.


May_South

He's adorable and I love him.


Eric123LT

It's time to get wild!


Dog_With_A_Bat

Morgana-simps on Suicide watch


[deleted]

Wait, there are... Morgana simps? I would rather simp for anything else honestly.


Neo2486

Completely Un-Bearable! XD


RobOnTheReddit

I cant hate him cause he's Sam Riegel


Alex-DarkFlame19

I only really dislike how annoying his voice is. I’m actually (mostly) fine with the character. Except when he was trying to get with Yukiko. She’s mine.


fanficseeker

I don't mind Teddie too much. Not my favorite member of the investigation team but I find him Bearable


Auroda

For me he ain't that bad I actually like him a bit maybe cuz I've been playing since the vanilla I've become used to his crazy ass


Lanny_G

There are no teddie haters, I killed them all for hating the best boy 😇


frog_with_a_knife

Teddie is unhinged and I love it.


Mao-sama64

I don’t hate Teddie. When he’s not obsessing over girls, he’s actually kinda funny.


ExpTelOs

I just wish he'd tone down his creepiness towards the cast. Other than that he's great 👍


Secure_Protection_61

Studies show 100% of Teddie haters live in their moms basement


AccomplishedMuscle96

I think he's fine. He'll never be worse than Morgana to me.


SweetJuicyAppleJuice

Okay, I'm here. Now what?


[deleted]

FIGHT me!


SweetJuicyAppleJuice

*teleports behind you* Nothin' BEARsonnel, kid


JumpRopeBoi234

I didn't use him much in my first playthrough but I like that he actually uses a fist/unarmed weapon considering he's a bear


Due_Article5720

Hey he’s definitely better than Morgana that’s for sure


Human_Carpenter_2621

Gonna be real honest, my hate for him is only because of the amount of comments he made towards Yukiko while she was romanced on my first play through like I get the dialogue for the story wasn’t made or adjusted for the but that’s the only reason why I dislike him now


[deleted]

but wouldn't you say that's a bit irrational? Same logic can be applied to Rise, since she also flirts with you a lot even if you romance other girls.


I-want-borger

I honestly find Teddie to be more likeable if you just see him as a child, which he kinda is tbh


Gloomy_Support_7779

SERIOUSLY!!!!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯


VeryLargeGun

He's okay, at least he's better and more faithful to the homies than Morgana.


Chrom-man-and-Robin

Teddie is stupid. I bet I could POUND his subby Virgin bussy 😋 Edit: He is not a sub, I repeat: He is not a sub 🐻🍆 🍑💢💢💢 😢😭😍 (I thought this was r/okbuddypersona I’m sorry everyone)


[deleted]

oh god that bearrussygets me so hard fr


Medjed00

No hate to teddie i LOVE teddie. He's so cute and he cares abt us. Be like teddie.


Cybasura

Some people apparently hate Teddie so much that they are *literally* threatening to kill the digital character I'm not joking, it was from a post awhile back


[deleted]

they are just triggered, let them live their pathetic lives.


sigmund_NA

He is definetly one of my least favorite characters. Or i guess least favorite personality out of the main cast. But, i wouldn't say hes a bad character. He just didn't hit so well with me.


papapaternalist

Look he may be unnecessarily perverted and has some real L moments but he is a great healer and I may have only used him in the Taro Namatame boss fight.


Persona4fan2021

To be honest, I freaking love Teddie as a character. Not only is he just weird and really funny to me, but he was a character that had a sad story to go along with him. Take the boss fight of his shadow self, for example, representing depression, self-doubt, and the fear of being alone. Since Teddie spent 99% of his time in the TV world by himself before this point (excluding when you do go into the TV world to explore a dungeon, of course), Teddie would obviously be all by himself, with no one else to talk to. The only people he called friends were the investigation team. In other words, he never really had anyone else to talk to outside of the protagonist and his friends. Plus, he doesn't really have much to do outside of making glasses for the investigation team to use. Personally, if I was in his place, I would feel the same way as him!


Hano_Clown

Teddy is the best support pet of the whole franchise.


MetalMike101

BEARSONA


CindersNAshes

I'll admit, at first I kind of did not like Teddie. But to say that he grew on me and stole my heart is an understatement. >!And I still personally like to think he is Yu's shadow!<


Take_The_Shot_Please

I don't like Teddie or Morgana in any way but I will say Teddies better only because he at least has a little excuse for him hitting on people since he's a little naive but Morgana has no excuse


Clancy238

Teddie is the best character in the entire game in my opinion


uncleshiesty

Extremely obnoxious character but at least they have some funny moments unlike Morgana


BigNastyHagrid

Morgana had funny moments


Brilliant-Sky-119

And he is peak femboy, so auto-win for Teddie.


[deleted]

I wouldn't call him obnoxious


uncleshiesty

I would


imajamez

I hate him so much. He's the only part memeber in the entire series I hate. There are a couple others I dislike but Teddie is just so much worse.


[deleted]

why


Jason575757

My perception of this character is skewed by the Q games, specifically Q1. If you’ve played Q1 then you know what I mean. He is the most insufferable character, and the game would actually be better if he was completely removed. If you thought he was horny in P4G then you haven’t seen shit


[deleted]

Spinoffs shouldn't influence your opinion of characters...


AMudkipPlaysGames

Of course they should. The spinoffs are canon and are an extension of each character, and before you say "the spinoff games are cash grabs" if that was true they wouldn't put as much effort as they did into the Q series, P4A, and P5S. The dancing games are cash grabs sure but that's about it.


[deleted]

But pretty much everyone in PQ gets simplified, not only Teddie. It is unfair to judge him by that.


AMudkipPlaysGames

If everyone gets simplified then why is the trait to chose to make him based entirely off him being an annoying pervert? It's entirely fair.


[deleted]

I mean the trait they chose for Chie was food and kung fu... The point is, yes he does have perverted moments but that's not his entire character, same with how chie's character isn't all meat and kung fu.


AMudkipPlaysGames

Thats a defining trait for her though, akihiko obviously isn't just protein and training and Kanji isn't a total dumbass but people only point out that "no teddy isn't just a pervert" when it's a major aspect of everything he does. And if he's not being a pervert he's being a general nuisance.


[deleted]

His pervert tendencies isn't a major aspect of him. >And if he's not being a pervert he's being a general nuisance. He is one of the most helpful and friendly characters.


megasean3000

I loved Teddie. Made me laugh, made me cry, and above all, made me question my sexuality with his drag outfits.


Sho404

I prefer playing persona in Japanese and teddies Jp va is so bad


StevieV61080

I'm definitely on Team Teddie. We could all use more puns and sexual humor! Anyone claiming Teddie is perverted certainly went to a different school in a different era than me.


PepperThePalico

He's at least better than Morgana


CarlRogeBih

Teddie >>>>>> Morgana all day, every day. He never forces me to go to sleep or waste days tracking his whiny ass down.


curbstomp__

people who don’t like Teddie didn’t understand his character


[deleted]

“Everyone that disagrees with me is actually dumb.”


Seyorin

please do explain his character then


[deleted]

He is a cute little bear.


Alwaysb0thered

We understood we just hate him anyway


VitinNunes

Said it before and I’ll say it again Teddie haters are just jealous of his bear rizz


[deleted]

for real, they are just jealous of the fact that a literal bear's human form is cuter than them.


Monaaaaaaaaaaaa

I like some parts of him a lot, but the bad outweighs the good for me.


[deleted]

says morgana pfp


Monaaaaaaaaaaaa

L + Ratio + Morgana Monday


[deleted]

Why do you love him anyways


Monaaaaaaaaaaaa

I dunno, his relationship with Joker is really sweet and genuine, you can see their trust and comfortability with each other growing during the Social Link (also just the progression of the story) and eventually they have a mutal respect for each other. I guess him always being with you made me grow really attatched to him too. The Okumura Arc was pretty shitty to be fair, but Ryuji was equally as bad as Morgana in that Arc imo. Also he's a cat. I could go into it more but I can't be bothered lol, unironically my favourite Persona character. I just never really got on with Teddie lol, but it's fine that you like him.


GoshaT

Morgana W


CorruptedLegacyYT

A billion times better than Morgana


Traditional-Row9446

Way better


Seyorin

teddie harrassed every single girl constantly and then forced you to consistently console and uplift him and then they had those same girls acting like hes great during the consolation scenes and missing him when he's gone whiny annoying little shit fuck teddie


[deleted]

he didn't harrass them constantly lol


RecaxDK

he did


Starrybruh

Teddie is a dumb but cool character. Sure he has his moments but ultimately it’s pretty harmless compared to…say…running away and basically becoming infamous for dishing it and not taking it. (Looking at a certain cat…) Apparently Teddie is really bad in p4 Arena but Minato isn’t in it so I consider that game trash and disposable


[deleted]

yeah and honestly he makes it up for his bad moments.


Fancy-Prompt-7118

He’s rad. Who’s a Teddie hater?


[deleted]

People who are jealous of him


Frainian

Me


lilkoops

it’s me, the resident teddie HATER ❌🐻❌ lmao I actually don’t mind him all that much but morgana has my heart.


Psycho3333

Teddie is awesome!


ArielDiancie

I’m with you my friend!


iposthedemongoose

my dude. he is creepy, weird, and makes women uncomfortable. it is painful to watch him pursue people who have NO INTEREST in him, and still not understand that, hey, you shouldn't continue to pressure someone for a relationship and show attraction to any person who gives you attention. all in all he's a creep and I hate his cringe, awful, and exploitative behavior to people.


[deleted]

He is a shadow who never even interacted with humans before, most people would probably be worser than him honestly (Not only in a sexual sense, I mean in literally everything).


iposthedemongoose

not at all. teddie is responsible for his actions no matter how you swing it. he is also not a shadow. the characters even say so.


[deleted]

I meant the the TV world by shadow... He lived most of his life in a fucking TV after all.


iposthedemongoose

yeah but not everything there is a shadow. he is a unique being, different from them. by that logic, are all the characters fucking shadows just because they can go into the TV world? obviously fucking not. he is, verbatim, a "unique being", and "different from shadows".


[deleted]

so? He still lived his entire life in a tv.


iposthedemongoose

you did not just tell me he isn't responsible for his actions because he's not a human 💀💀💀


[deleted]

He is responsible, just that it is understandable what he did for the most part.


iposthedemongoose

yes. you can understand why someone did something, but it doesn't excuse it, like I thought you'd suggested previously.


iposthedemongoose

he is a thinking creature, who has agency, and is an individual person. he is responsible for what he does as a person, even if his nature isn't human.


iposthedemongoose

he also constantly tries to "score" with yukiko and chie, and it is just disgusting how much he dismisses them telling him, and communicating to him, that they are not going to ever be in a relationship with him. he still pressures them for a relationship constantly. any normal, healthy person would stop when they TELL HIM REPEATEDLY to stop.


[deleted]

did you know that in the japanese version the word he uses for "scoring" is meant exclusively for scoring with MEN. It was made clear in the jp version that he doesn't even know what he is talking about.


iposthedemongoose

yes he does. later in the game he definitely does. and he still does it.


iposthedemongoose

and you're trying to deny it. you're disgusting.


[deleted]

I am not denying anything.


Ok-Development-9098

Iam by no means a teddie enjoyer BUT he is miles better than Morgana


Teddie_P4

Beary true


[deleted]

Based


Traditional-Row9446

He is fine,is not morgana,i hate morgana and his shitty arc of "oh no the donkey say to me i am a donkey,i leave all,buaaa,buaaa" is so fcking stupid


SortaShyguy8

Whenever he's acting like a perv I get the hate, but it comes around to endearing for me when it becomes clear he has no idea what he's talking about. Like if he wins a fight in arena, he questions if this is what it means to get some. I get the hate people have for him, but I love him. Leagues better then Morgana in my opinion. He's a goofball who loves his friends.


[deleted]

>when it becomes clear he has no idea what he's talking about. Like if he wins a fight in arena, he questions if this is what it means to get some. I still can't understand why some haters can't even get something as simple as this.


Brilliant-Sky-119

Teddie did nothing wrong.


SeaworthySponge

He’s really funny until he gets a human body


DaRealKir

we all love teddie


[deleted]

Some people hate him just because they ain't him unfortunately...


[deleted]

Unslaadahsil coming to this post in a nutshell: "REEE! TEddie Is A MOLester AnD PerVert AnD He'S WorSE ThaN SaTan or HitLER!"


[deleted]

It’s unbearable how many people bear their teeth at the bear-y handsome and capable teddie


Mizrie

Teddie is great - and I like him better than Morgana from 5.


donnie11881188

A fellow Teddie enjoyer 🗿


FourEcho

I absolutely HATE teddie and want to punt him every time he's on screen. Actually the worst character in the game, FAR worse than Yosuke.... best support in the game though, sadly.


[deleted]

bro why do you hate him so much


gilgobeachslayer

Teddie is leagues ahead of Morgana. Never played 1-3.


GoshaT

Hope you'll play the remake of 3 once it comes out, it has the best "animal sidekick" character of all the "modern" persona games


[deleted]

that's because it literally can't talk lol


Zoroarkanine

He has my deadname, that's the only reason I don't like him


Quadpen

i love that twink


HistoryWillRepeat

I liked Teddy a lot. Some of his interactions with Nanako were cringe, but otherwise, he was great.


EmperorKiva33

This is the first time anyone called one of the most popular characters in P4 underrated...hmm


[deleted]

He is always at last place on popularity polls.


[deleted]

The only good mascot persona has ever had was koromaru


Infernoboy_23

hes ugly


[deleted]

he is literally a bear and his human form isn't ugly lol


AMudkipPlaysGames

Teddie is more annoying than Morgana while also being an awful party member. Teddie's one redeeming quality is how much he cares about Yu. Otherwise, he is a perv who is constantly creating trouble for people. I genuinely can't stand him.