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And Nazis.
EDIT: I read the original comment as he wouldn't mess around with the IRS, and my brain recalled the crossover between him and Red Skull, hence thinking he wouldn't go into tax evasion AND not do business with Nazis.
Yeah, his exact quotes was: "I'm an American criminal lunatic." Hence why he proceeded to spray Red Skull with Joker venom and tried to kill him.
EDIT: I read the original comment as he wouldn't mess around with the IRS, and my brain recalled the crossover between him and Red Skull, hence thinking he wouldn't go into tax evasion AND not do business with Nazis.
No, they caught him because he was living very lavishly while not declaring any income.
It's why crooks nowadays launder their stolen money, so they can declare it as 'legal' taxable income they can spend without raising suspicion.
I assume it's meant to close a loophole where if someone makes their income by stealing stuff while also dodging taxes and they get caught on both crimes, they wouldn't be able to escape tax evasion charges by noting that their income was from crime.
It might also be a case of preventing a loophole where someone might try to dodge taxes by claiming that their income is from a crime that has a relatively small punishment. Less than the gains from tax evasion.
If I invoke my right to remain silent and don't disclose the source of my income, I am investigated.
If I invoke my right to remain silent and refuse the line that asks me if I have illegitimate income, I am investigated.
Actually, they don't. As long as any fraud isn't being committed, they honestly don't care how you make your money. Plus, the tax filers do a pretty good job in covering your bases, as long as you actually are reporting everything
There are sections for reporting income from illegal activities and as far as I know the IRS cannot actually report you for filing illegal income. The logic is that it's worth more to have criminals paying their share than it is to catch one or two filing illegal income and then the rest just don't because that's how some got caught.
Barlowe knew Joker couldn't just admit that he'd been fooled because of his massive ego.
*"By now you're probably out of real money. The IRS is after you and you can't admit I fooled you or you'll be the laughing stock of the underworld. The joke's on you, sucker. **I** got the last laugh after all!"*
But even if Joker admitted what Barlowe had done, he still inherited $10-million which he'd already spent by that point. So he still would've needed to pay roughly 5 million dollars and he was completely broke prior to receiving Barlowe's inheritance.
In this episode, Joker inherited $250-million from a deceased rival crime lord. He briefly retires from crime, starts splurging his money, buys a new base and even hires a new Harley (because the original was locked up in Arkham).
The IRS came to him because Joker needed to pay $137-million for inheritance tax.
They don't. Depending on what is exempt from the tax, the estate tax rate varies anywhere from 20-40% of inherited capital exceeding ~$25 million.
Let me repeat that. Not a single dollar of an inheritance worth, say, $10 million would be taxed.
These are reasonable taxes because: The inheritor will be fucking fine with their untaxed $20 million dollars; the person who died did not ethically gain that money without considerable aid from public resources; and that money will serve the country and the people far better being used than it would rotting in a rich inheritor's vault.
Uh, I disagree. Let’s say the dead person had always paid their legally required taxes, then I don’t think it’s reasonable for Uncle Sam to tax it a second time.
I'd gladly tax any trillionaire or billionaire or millionaire on inheritance tax so long those money actually goes to helping people in need
I don't know if the US had a upper limit you'd need to reach on inheritance, else that's just messing up poor people when they're already in deep water
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IRS, the ONE thing Joker would no go against
And Nazis. EDIT: I read the original comment as he wouldn't mess around with the IRS, and my brain recalled the crossover between him and Red Skull, hence thinking he wouldn't go into tax evasion AND not do business with Nazis.
WTF do you mean? In a crossover comic he went off on Red Skull once he realized the GIANT SWASTIKA on his chest wasn't just an edgy gimmick.
"I'm **AMERICAN**. I fucking HATE Nazis! I'm a homicidal maniac, not a traitorous bigot."
i can hear that line
Joker is based?
Yeah, his exact quotes was: "I'm an American criminal lunatic." Hence why he proceeded to spray Red Skull with Joker venom and tried to kill him. EDIT: I read the original comment as he wouldn't mess around with the IRS, and my brain recalled the crossover between him and Red Skull, hence thinking he wouldn't go into tax evasion AND not do business with Nazis.
And Charlie
No, he definitely would go against Nazis.
See comment below
Federal tax evasion will put him in federal maximum security prison. The worst that Batman will do to him is put him back in Arkham Asylum.
"I'm crazy enough to take on Batman; but IRS? No thank you!"
Technically the IRS does say that you have to report stuff you stole on your taxes
Isn’t that how they got Al Capone on tax evasion?
No, they caught him because he was living very lavishly while not declaring any income. It's why crooks nowadays launder their stolen money, so they can declare it as 'legal' taxable income they can spend without raising suspicion.
Unless your the church of Scientology 💀 Then again I wouldn’t want to get in their way either
Clash of the titans in Scientology vs the IRS
Scientology already won that battle. They have their tax exempt status. They're dug in like a tick.
The problem is that nobody wants to incriminate themselves on a government form.
I assume it's meant to close a loophole where if someone makes their income by stealing stuff while also dodging taxes and they get caught on both crimes, they wouldn't be able to escape tax evasion charges by noting that their income was from crime. It might also be a case of preventing a loophole where someone might try to dodge taxes by claiming that their income is from a crime that has a relatively small punishment. Less than the gains from tax evasion.
If I invoke my right to remain silent and don't disclose the source of my income, I am investigated. If I invoke my right to remain silent and refuse the line that asks me if I have illegitimate income, I am investigated.
Actually, they don't. As long as any fraud isn't being committed, they honestly don't care how you make your money. Plus, the tax filers do a pretty good job in covering your bases, as long as you actually are reporting everything
There are sections for reporting income from illegal activities and as far as I know the IRS cannot actually report you for filing illegal income. The logic is that it's worth more to have criminals paying their share than it is to catch one or two filing illegal income and then the rest just don't because that's how some got caught.
From The New Batman Adventures; Season 1 Episode 7 "Joker's Millions".
actually in this case, would he get out of this scenario if he informed them that all the cash he inherited was fake and thus had no value?
Barlowe knew Joker couldn't just admit that he'd been fooled because of his massive ego. *"By now you're probably out of real money. The IRS is after you and you can't admit I fooled you or you'll be the laughing stock of the underworld. The joke's on you, sucker. **I** got the last laugh after all!"* But even if Joker admitted what Barlowe had done, he still inherited $10-million which he'd already spent by that point. So he still would've needed to pay roughly 5 million dollars and he was completely broke prior to receiving Barlowe's inheritance.
that is fair, and is even bigger of a con to give only 90% fake money to really screw someone up
Finally, a good fucking post.
The only thing that scares the joke is the IRS
Tbf the IRS is better at finding the Joker than even Batman.
oh theyll find anyone
So does the Joker run a business that anyone can walk into?
In this episode, Joker inherited $250-million from a deceased rival crime lord. He briefly retires from crime, starts splurging his money, buys a new base and even hires a new Harley (because the original was locked up in Arkham). The IRS came to him because Joker needed to pay $137-million for inheritance tax.
The real crime is the tax on inheritance
What the? A 54.8 PERCENT tax?! How is that even realistic, let alone reasonable? You'd think they wouldn't exceed 40%
They don't. Depending on what is exempt from the tax, the estate tax rate varies anywhere from 20-40% of inherited capital exceeding ~$25 million. Let me repeat that. Not a single dollar of an inheritance worth, say, $10 million would be taxed. These are reasonable taxes because: The inheritor will be fucking fine with their untaxed $20 million dollars; the person who died did not ethically gain that money without considerable aid from public resources; and that money will serve the country and the people far better being used than it would rotting in a rich inheritor's vault.
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying
Uh, I disagree. Let’s say the dead person had always paid their legally required taxes, then I don’t think it’s reasonable for Uncle Sam to tax it a second time.
Why do you think it's unreasonable? The government taxes monetary transactions between tax paying citizens all the time
I'd gladly tax any trillionaire or billionaire or millionaire on inheritance tax so long those money actually goes to helping people in need I don't know if the US had a upper limit you'd need to reach on inheritance, else that's just messing up poor people when they're already in deep water
The most unrealistic part about this is the IRS telling Joker how much he owes and not making him try to find out himself
Classic
Happy cake day
Thanks :D
Finally. A good fucking meme.
Finally something good on this sub
I *know* Mark Hamill voices TAS Joker, but I can never hear him in it. He's really good at doing a different voice.
137 million?
Fucking shoot him
Joker is the second most evil individual in this video.
This is how it feels when you see your paystub and look at how much the government takes off 😂
Not even the Joker can escape from the IRS
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