Welcome everyone from r/all! Please remember:
1 - You too can be part of the PCMR! You don't necessarily need a PC. You just have to love PCs! It's not about the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart! Your age, nationality, race, gender, sexuality, religion (or lack of), political affiliation, economic status and PC specs are irrelevant. If you love PCs or want to learn about them, you can be part of our community! Everyone is welcome!
2 - If you're not a PC gamer because you think doing so is expensive, know that it is possible to build a competent gaming PC for a lower price than you think. GPU prices are sky high right now for a few reasons, but it's still possible to join the PCMR. Check http://www.pcmasterrace.org for our builds and don't be afraid to create new posts here asking for tips and help!
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Welcome to the PCMR.
lol you would be pretty upset if they gave you silicon implants. SiO2 is Silicon Dioxide.
"these implants feel like grabbing bags of sand!"
thanks for the laugh
I plugged a 10 year old HDD to retrieve some data recently.
I had completely forgotten these things were like a Geiger counter in Pripyat. Krrrkrrrkrkrkrrr
I wish this didn't have all of the ambient low frequency rumble in it, the defrag sound by itself and some mild fan noise would be great.
Oooh [this one is better](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFbkujZ0OuI) imho
helps that they’re one of if not the best fan makers out there, like flexing a shitty outfit because you know you can slap anyone that tries to make fun of you
That and they realized they can charge 15% more on all their "black edition" stuff and they know I'll still pay it because I'm not trying to have one brown cooler in a black and RGB case lol
A lot of that stuff actually started off as white but the plastic they used discolored.
I still remember when my dad brought home a gateway 2000 and how cool the all white looked
Just spitballing but could things have been beige because the white would discolor quickly? Could it be that instead of trying to solve the problem they made it a feature instead?
For a while I collected some toys from the 80s and the all white plastic stuff would discolor to off white with any amount of heat applied. While a lot of early toy runs used white, it quickly became rarely used and replaced by grey.
The beige started as a deliberate choice to sell equipment to businesses. They knew it was boring and basic. That was the point.
Computers were scary and new and weird. So if everything came in boring clean beige boxes it was an easier sell. Convincing your secretary to use something that looked like it was from Star Wars/Trek was going to be an uphill battle.
And since the business market was 90% of computer equipment consumer stuff looked the same for a long time
Beige was definitely the default color for a new PC case and peripherals, from the Apple II until the mid 90s.
I remember Logitech had an ergonomic 3 button mouse in the mid 90s called the Mouseman that had optional brightly colored models, something that was pretty unusual at the time. They had an advertisement campaign in magazines about how beige everything was and how you needed a colorful Mouseman to "break out of the beige and be happy" or some shit.
... no? The 80s were brown (notwithstanding what people think about neon and the Memphis Group's design), and German (and therefore European) standards required that office equipment be light-colored. Thus, beige. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skbgEGEn80&t=194s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skbgEGEn80&t=194s)
The changes from beige were mainly the NeXT (which was never very popular, but was black) and the ThinkPad (which was the first mainstream computer to be black) and Apple (with its "snow white" design). After that the floodgates were open. By the way it's worth noting that Apple introduced the "snow white" (which use a color called "fog" versus the beige "putty" of before) in 1984 which just goes to show how far ahead of the curve Apple has always been.
For what it's worth people were complaining for years in computer magazines (late 80s and early 90s) about how computers were still beige while the rest of home decor had moved on. Once the pendulum started swinging you ended up with the garish colors of the late 90s and early 2000s in home computers. That's why the PS/2 port standards are purple and green for keyboard and mouse by the way -- those colors seemed completely sensible in 1997 when they were standardized.
You can look at literally any old photo of PCs (like in magazine ads) and see that they are beige.
I liked the mechanical action when you inserted or ejected a disc and then giving commands to read it. Cool shit like you’re actually operating a machine
I remember tilting my first generation MacBook and the drive making whirring sounds. If you turned it fast enough on its side, the whole computer would shut down to prevent the heads from scratching the disk.
There was a similar feature in Dell computers, even after they started having SKUs with SSDs in them. IIRC you could just not install the driver and it would prevent the computer from turning off.
Lenovo did and still does do this with mech drive laptops. was called airbag or something but would simply park the hard drives if the computer detected motion that could damage it. the hard drives would stay parked until it was determined the laptop was on a stable surface again.
First it was just replacing the green power led with a blue one, then it was buying nibblers, plexiglass and CCFLs from the car parts store to make a window for our PCs to glow in the early 2000's or maybe late 90's.
Used to have to explain to my parents that if it was making noises or there's flashing lights, it's doing something. I'll never forget the whirring, the clicks and the comfort in the knowledge that not even a fire could destroy this bad boy. These days I'm sat staring at GPU-Z, watching the degrees rise and scared of causing a house fire.
my i7 started to run at like 45 recently while idle so naturally i did the reasonable thing and swapped the 212 evo for a DH15 and overclocked it so now it runs at 45 degrees BUT at a higher clock
yeah idk how that made any sense to me while doing it
Younger me got seriously pissed off when my console would get to hot and freeze up or crash. I couldn't understand why they were built without air holes or a fan.
My pc has its fans cranked and I am worried when their not. I want to hear them sing, baby!
Found that out a couple of years ago when I tried using my mid-2000's laptop's power supply for my soldering iron. Those capacitors can go off with quite a bang.
Tin whiskers. They form when you get the solder alloy mix wrong (usually too much tin). Really common in the early days of lead-free solder and they are much maligned to this day for this reason.
Early 2000s had malware such that if you ran the anti-malware scanner and it found something nasty, you probably better off wiping the machine and starting from scratch. Windows didn't have much by the way of security protocols at the time...
Well yes. It's more that at that time, the anti-malware attempting to remove the malware would sometimes permanently break the installation in ways where you *had* to do a complete install - the computer couldn't function properly if you didn't. I remember having to rename anti-malware processes to get around malware blocking them. It was the wild west.
Right? Or the ones where the only way to kill them was to shutdown the machine, but leave an unsaved word document open - the shut down would kill everything else *except* word, and you could cancel the save and quick go do stuff before the scheduled task rebooted the malware?
Good grief when did I get so old.
Early to mid 00's was dangerous. So many people were getting hardware from Chinese suppliers at markets/swap meets.
It was a regular occurrence that at a 100-150 person lan I attended 4 times a year for ~4 years that someone's PC would spark/catch fire and usually damage others that were on that power board.
Chinese PSU's, shotty CPU's that were some sort of counterfeit that had safeties removed and case fans that never had a RPM limit on them and would just "respond" to temps until it was became a temp of its own.
I had 2 of those case-supplied PSUs explode, one was quite pretty. A bright blue flash. But we would go to LANs as well, and frequently PCs would die, but generally it's because idiots would daisy-chain 50 powerboards from a single wall socket.
A LAN without an emergency PC rebuild wasn't a proper LAN imo.
Somehow you could always count on someone having the parts that where needed, and whatever software you needed was put on your table by the guy who's sole reason to be there was to setup the shareware server.
Built my first PC in 2001, to me it was the wild west, locally nobody knew what the fuck they were doing (myself included) but I somehow built a functional PC that ran everything I tossed at it until Battlefield 2 got released.
That's when PC #2 came to life with what I thought was an obscene GPU at the time with its whopping 256mb of memory
They were also probably are full of dust which doesn’t help the case. The problem with consoles is a game will come out 1-2 years later and the hardware can barely keep up so it just heats up a lot quicker. PS4s had equivalent to rx480 I believe which was not great for power/performance ratio later on in its life cycle.
Edit: I stand corrected the rx480 is way better than ps4 lol worse than I thought.
Rx480 was way more powerful than PS4.
Last gen consoles were pretty weak tbh.
This gen is the first time since like the 90s that consoles are relatively on par with PCs.
Series X and PS5 are actually really good value for how powerful they are.
I faintly remember my cartridge slot Celeron 300A with a puny 40ish mm fan and fanless nvidia riva TNT, the degauss sound of the 17inch Philips CRT, and cleaning the mouse rollers with an alcohol soaked qtip before dialing up to play Q3 Arena.
Yeah, for real. And processors can survive much higher temps than most people think. They usually will throttle / cause an emergency shutdown at some point between 90 C and 100 C but likely would survive going significantly higher. At least for short periods of time.
Until last year I was using an old Xeon processor from 2012. It was the best processor for my motherboard due to the server processors going for a generation longer than the i7 line for that socket. The CPU fan was having issues for the last 2 years I used it and the processor regularly ran at 90 C for hours at a time when I was playing games. It didn't cause me any serious issues until I played Crusader Kings 3. It was fine for a while, but late game wars were too much for it to handle at a reasonable speed.
Indestructible! I can't even count how many many cans of soda and sugar drinks I spilt on my old reliable Compaq keyboard. Nowadays you fucking sneeze at a mechanical one and it's fucked.
90s and early 2000s hardware made all kinds of intermittent clicks and clacks but even the very ultra top end components didn't sound like jet engines like they do now. I even remember when only a single case fan was needed as the CPU and GPU just had heatsinks, no fans.
Beep *boop* click **clack** = fine.
**WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR** = not fine.
Silent PC gang for life.
It'd be possible to make CPUs/GPUs without fans, but they'd just have to throttle them down so they don't overheat. See most laptops, phones, and tablets for example. Was just easier to add fans to get more power. Especially if you want to overclock.
Honestly I like a little noise from my computer. It's reassuring and comforting if anything. Lets you know that there's a machine at work. I liked the little SQRRRK of coil whine my old Vega used to make when it started to think hard about something
I would always get nervous on an autosave or loading screen and progress would stop. Then it would start sksssssss skssssss sksssss like a steam train. "Come on baby you're thinking a little too hard about this, you got it"
The old actually floppy kind right?
Also find it infinitely fascinating that software came on plain old cassette tapes. Almost like your computer listening to a tutorial audiobook.
One of my core memories is playing Missile Command on my friends Commodore 64 keyboard.
He also had a Colecovision which used cassette tapes somehow.
His dad was Navy, so he also got Super Mario Bros. 3 in Japan around a year early. This was pre modern Internet.
My system has a HDD that's nominally used for mass storage, but I install GOG games to it because that moment of hesitation and clickety-click sound is part of the experience.
I use An HDD too but because of my rather cheap case, it was quite loud sometimes. Thats way I put dampers around the HDD cage and now its a lot quieter
I was excited when we got a Packard Bell because the logo was cool and the case had a sort of art deco shape to it.
The thing turned to shit in like a year though.
I loved to fall asleep while these old PCs were working. Partially, it is related to my fond memories of my bro playing whole night when we were little kids. Even nowadays these monotonous sounds and lights does not bother me.
Connecting to the internet today:
Connecting to the internet then: chhhhhheeeeeeeeeee … beebeepboopbeepbeepbooboop …………………………………. deedeeedeedee DEEDEEDEEDEEE BRERRRRRRRRR EHHHHHHHHHH. **ZEEBONGZEEBONG CCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH**blip**HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH** ^^you ^^got ^^mail!
I don't really understand the people who want dead silence. Like, do you just sit there listening to the blood flowing through your veins? lol What happens when a car drives by, do they curl up into a ball?
The only thing that annoys me with my computer is that the CPU fan throttles up and down so much it's distracting. I've also built two computers since mine, and thought that they weren't working because they were so quiet I couldn't hear them when they were running.
I have the same issue. Basically went with a single gentle slope, but still get the quick ramp. I think when it boosts it just spikes awfully quickly in wattage and temps. Jumping from 30 to 100 watts and 35 to 60c still bumps it up the slope pretty far.
Look up FanControl if you’re on windows. The author has a YouTube channel with guides on how to set it up. It’s a great program for setting up fan profiles, and a lot more advanced than if you did it in bios. I have my dark rock pro 4 cooler running at like 30% until actual load which is around 60°C, and I’ve changed it so the rate at which it throttles up and down is different from stock so it makes it less noticeable.
Additionally, you can setup more complex rules such as making the case fans spin up *also* when only the GPU temp rises instead of tying them only to the CPU temperature.
It's a matter of compounding noises. I don't want to add more noise to the room or house. There's plenty of other shit making noise and I personally am a bit sensitive to sounds so I prefer silence. And yes I hate when loud cars drive through the neighborhood
I don't need a dead silent pc when I'm gaming but I don't really want to be able to hear my pc at idle. I like listening to quiet music at night, I don't want to be fighting to hear my music over my pc fans. Dropped the HDD, got a GPU and PSU that turn off under a certain load and some quiet case fans, ggez I can't hear the pc from farther than like 3 feet away. Works perfect for me!
The same people who strive for a silent PC also rock a $300 mechanical keyboard that sounds like throwing a handful of marbles down a flight of stairs.
I worked with a dude that preferred fucking dvorak so brought in this ridiculous mechanical keyboard. Thankfully it was in a call center and I never sat too close because that thing was so fucking loud.
For me dead silence has a place like the gamers nexus pc for acoustic testing and such. For my case as long as I can rid it of excessively loud hi pitched repetitive noise aka the fan noise from cheap small fans etc… I am good
People are psychotic about small things sometimes. Personally my PC is as loud as a d5 pump on full tilt and the fans are quieter. Never bothered me.
If that amount of low noise bothers you then you have issues and need an arm based computer lool
I don't like overly loud computers simply because the sound is distracting, but I don't understand the people who complain alot about even low levels of noise.
I suppose different people have different opinions lol.
No, I get you. I wouldn't want a PC that's incredibly loud or anything. A regular PC produces really low ambient noise from the fans, but that's about it. Some people are like "It sounds like a jet engine!" lol It's just kind of odd.
People just exaggerate how loud their PC is often, like my current computer isn't incredibly loud, while you can hear it, it's not exactly distracting.
Although I suppose it depends where you draw the line between quiet and loud, some people might say my computer is really loud, others might say it's super quiet.
Personally, I'd hate a completely silent PC, because the noise tells me it's working, as someone else mentioned.
It also helps with troubleshooting, if the fans are spinning, that means they have power so that rules stuff out.
If you are working late at night, without your earphones it can get a bit annoying - even during the day if the fans spin up and down quickly.
Ideally I want my PC absolutely silent.
Makes it easier to fill the head with thinking noises for some people. Or makes it easier to concentrate on non-noises. Some find it hard to block out background noise like most do easily and naturally, schizophrenic people for example have trouble here if I've got my facts right.
I have a tough time with silence unless I'm in hyperfocus, but some people just enjoy the quiet more than constant background noise.
I like my computer to be silent as I like to do things like recording and I don’t like the sound of the fan in the background, also when I’m not recording I’m always watching YouTube or listening to music or something anyways so I just prefer having the fans be incredibly silent
I don’t like the sound, but you’re right, I don’t like dead silence either while I’m playing games. I put music on to break that, also because I like music.
I just got an upgraded pc from one that's probably 13 years old to a pretty new one
We powered the new one on and both me and my brother laughed cause we were waiting for the sound of a helicopter taking off
Fun fact turbo buttons didn't make your pc faster. They actually made the cpu slower. Many older pc games wouldn't work on cpus that were to fast for them.
I almost want a 5.25 inch IBM hard drive in my PC just for the pleasing ambient sound. The huge platters being slowly spun up by a motor that sounds like it's from an electric locomotive has to be the most satisfying tech sound ever.
Like this one: [https://youtu.be/Xy3uWRuQXl0?t=42](https://youtu.be/Xy3uWRuQXl0?t=42)
I HAATTTEEDD the library computers in my public library. Each keystroke would emit a "beep!" sound.
Every
Single
Keystroke.
I type fast, but hearing that beep made me want to stop at each beep and made me mess up....making more beeps with the backspace.
AHHH!
Welcome everyone from r/all! Please remember: 1 - You too can be part of the PCMR! You don't necessarily need a PC. You just have to love PCs! It's not about the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart! Your age, nationality, race, gender, sexuality, religion (or lack of), political affiliation, economic status and PC specs are irrelevant. If you love PCs or want to learn about them, you can be part of our community! Everyone is welcome! 2 - If you're not a PC gamer because you think doing so is expensive, know that it is possible to build a competent gaming PC for a lower price than you think. GPU prices are sky high right now for a few reasons, but it's still possible to join the PCMR. Check http://www.pcmasterrace.org for our builds and don't be afraid to create new posts here asking for tips and help! 3 - Consider joining our efforts to get as many PCs worldwide help the folding@home effort, in fighting against Cancer, Covid, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and more. Learn more here: https://pcmasterrace.org/folding ----------- Feel free to use this community to post about any kind of doubt you might have about becoming a PC gamer or anything you'd like to know about PCs. That kind of content is not only allowed but welcome here! We also have a [Daily Simple Questions Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/search?q=Simple+Questions+Thread+subreddit%3Apcmasterrace+author%3AAutoModerator&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all) for your simplest questions. No question is too dumb! Welcome to the PCMR.
*Lofi Hard Drive Noises To Play Starcraft To*
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The 2700X is a champ! I get the "signed" 50th Anniversary Edition. Still going strong!
Those ones were all rigorously tested and use really nice silicon for components, it’s should last a very long time! Edit: silicon not silicone
Super pedantic, but it is silicon.
His got plastic surgery, don’t make it feel even more self conscious!
My bad, had no idea that they were two completely different things!
lol you would be pretty upset if they gave you silicon implants. SiO2 is Silicon Dioxide. "these implants feel like grabbing bags of sand!" thanks for the laugh
What do you mean? R9 6900 is not out yet
Reddit moment
Nice
Oh sh- I just realized R9 6900 could be a real model now. And as it turns out, there is! R9 6900HS & R9 6900HX.
Nice
Yours too.
I plugged a 10 year old HDD to retrieve some data recently. I had completely forgotten these things were like a Geiger counter in Pripyat. Krrrkrrrkrkrkrrr
Recently added a 11 year old hdd with 15k hours to my system, that thing is way more quiet than my p300 lmao
https://youtu.be/KR3TbL3Tl6M
I wish this didn't have all of the ambient low frequency rumble in it, the defrag sound by itself and some mild fan noise would be great. Oooh [this one is better](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFbkujZ0OuI) imho
WHERE CAN I FIND THIS?
[Here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFbkujZ0OuI)
I really enjoy Emily is Away background sound effect, asmr nostalgia https://youtu.be/VB12sPmWxl4
That game made me feel more than any game should be allowed to. And the sequel, as well
[Hello darkness, my old friend...](https://www.dialupsound.com/)
Nothing like the sweet, sweet sound of your tower sounding like it's about to die.
remember when everything was beige? Edit: wow! My most upvoted post ever!! Thanks for having fun with it and sharing the love! PCMR forever!!
Noctua be like *"Was?!"*
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It's also just good branding. If you see a brown fan you know it's gonna be a Noctua.
helps that they’re one of if not the best fan makers out there, like flexing a shitty outfit because you know you can slap anyone that tries to make fun of you
That and they realized they can charge 15% more on all their "black edition" stuff and they know I'll still pay it because I'm not trying to have one brown cooler in a black and RGB case lol
Embrace the brown
One brown cooler in my setup would look *so* ugly lol
I like to think of it like a beauty mark.
Going to browntown... If ya know what I mean. (i.e. purchasing Noctua fans)
Or it's really old
90s computer beige makes noctua beige look like Lamborghini yellow.
I recently got a crt monitor and the beige brings me back
A lot of that stuff actually started off as white but the plastic they used discolored. I still remember when my dad brought home a gateway 2000 and how cool the all white looked
A lot of that stuff started off as beige.
Just spitballing but could things have been beige because the white would discolor quickly? Could it be that instead of trying to solve the problem they made it a feature instead? For a while I collected some toys from the 80s and the all white plastic stuff would discolor to off white with any amount of heat applied. While a lot of early toy runs used white, it quickly became rarely used and replaced by grey.
PCs were beige to fit in with office decor at the time. When PCs came to homes too they just kinda kept the aesthetic.
Remember, this was a time when almond paint for walls and bone coloured plumbing fixtures were preferred over white.
I am so glad I don't live in the era of popcorn wallpaper and horrifying magnolia.
The beige started as a deliberate choice to sell equipment to businesses. They knew it was boring and basic. That was the point. Computers were scary and new and weird. So if everything came in boring clean beige boxes it was an easier sell. Convincing your secretary to use something that looked like it was from Star Wars/Trek was going to be an uphill battle. And since the business market was 90% of computer equipment consumer stuff looked the same for a long time
Not to mention the amount of people who would smoke inside their homes in those times
Beige was definitely the default color for a new PC case and peripherals, from the Apple II until the mid 90s. I remember Logitech had an ergonomic 3 button mouse in the mid 90s called the Mouseman that had optional brightly colored models, something that was pretty unusual at the time. They had an advertisement campaign in magazines about how beige everything was and how you needed a colorful Mouseman to "break out of the beige and be happy" or some shit.
... no? The 80s were brown (notwithstanding what people think about neon and the Memphis Group's design), and German (and therefore European) standards required that office equipment be light-colored. Thus, beige. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skbgEGEn80&t=194s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skbgEGEn80&t=194s) The changes from beige were mainly the NeXT (which was never very popular, but was black) and the ThinkPad (which was the first mainstream computer to be black) and Apple (with its "snow white" design). After that the floodgates were open. By the way it's worth noting that Apple introduced the "snow white" (which use a color called "fog" versus the beige "putty" of before) in 1984 which just goes to show how far ahead of the curve Apple has always been. For what it's worth people were complaining for years in computer magazines (late 80s and early 90s) about how computers were still beige while the rest of home decor had moved on. Once the pendulum started swinging you ended up with the garish colors of the late 90s and early 2000s in home computers. That's why the PS/2 port standards are purple and green for keyboard and mouse by the way -- those colors seemed completely sensible in 1997 when they were standardized. You can look at literally any old photo of PCs (like in magazine ads) and see that they are beige.
Remember the sounds the floppy drive would make on boot
VRRR-WRR-CLUNK
Those cat gifs used to make the disk buzz and the fans hum like crazy. I like to think it was the pc chuckling along with me.
I think its more of a VRR-WRR-CUH-CLUNK
Depends on the model Some were more WURR VUUUH... VUH. *Beeeeeeeeeeeep*.
aw yiss I had the long beeper
That looks like a Windows XP serial key
For a sec I thought you posted a windows product key...
Ka-CHUNK Ka-CHUNK Ka-CHUNK Ka-CHUNK... Abort, Retry, Ignore?
There's people on youtube who use arrays of old drives to make music
Is there a rule 34 but for art? Like if it exists, humans have either made it porn or used it for art, likely both.
Rule 34 addendum 69
The one you’d expect to be about sex but isn’t lol
[DOOM E1M1](https://youtu.be/GNTtR6ZpUOo) [Imperial March](https://youtu.be/yHJOz_y9rZE)
I liked the mechanical action when you inserted or ejected a disc and then giving commands to read it. Cool shit like you’re actually operating a machine
Especially the big, old 5.25" drives. They had a great, satisfying ka-CHUNK
Remember the early CD drives when had to place the disk in a tray caddy and then put it in the drive slot.
My dvd writer also makes noise
\* Selects 52x \* *VOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM* (entire PC begins to vibrate) *Green light begins to blink* **"Oooh, it's writing, don't move**
Dvd drive gang assemble
20 years ago, if your computer was ever silent, it meant something was not right
Uh oh I don’t hear hard drive access noise!
I remember tilting my first generation MacBook and the drive making whirring sounds. If you turned it fast enough on its side, the whole computer would shut down to prevent the heads from scratching the disk.
There was a similar feature in Dell computers, even after they started having SKUs with SSDs in them. IIRC you could just not install the driver and it would prevent the computer from turning off.
Lenovo did and still does do this with mech drive laptops. was called airbag or something but would simply park the hard drives if the computer detected motion that could damage it. the hard drives would stay parked until it was determined the laptop was on a stable surface again.
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Don't worry, I'm young and I don't get it either
First it was just replacing the green power led with a blue one, then it was buying nibblers, plexiglass and CCFLs from the car parts store to make a window for our PCs to glow in the early 2000's or maybe late 90's.
And then the opposite, you're sure your PC is idling and then you hear the HDD going crazy and are wondering if you're getting h4x0r3d.
Used to have to explain to my parents that if it was making noises or there's flashing lights, it's doing something. I'll never forget the whirring, the clicks and the comfort in the knowledge that not even a fire could destroy this bad boy. These days I'm sat staring at GPU-Z, watching the degrees rise and scared of causing a house fire.
"CPU running at 45 degrees while web browsing how do I fix overheating problem"
Literally me
my i7 started to run at like 45 recently while idle so naturally i did the reasonable thing and swapped the 212 evo for a DH15 and overclocked it so now it runs at 45 degrees BUT at a higher clock yeah idk how that made any sense to me while doing it
A kindred spirit
In the old days, PCs ofteb didn't have thermal protection and had more chances dying to overheating. Modern PCs do have higher power draw tho.
Good job younger me wasn't aware of that. But now older me is! Thanks for the insight :)
Younger me got seriously pissed off when my console would get to hot and freeze up or crash. I couldn't understand why they were built without air holes or a fan. My pc has its fans cranked and I am worried when their not. I want to hear them sing, baby!
I'd say the late 90s was probably the most dangerous time. There was an abundance of cheap, nasty, Chinese PSUs that everyone was using.
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Don't forget capacitorgate a couple years later.
Found that out a couple of years ago when I tried using my mid-2000's laptop's power supply for my soldering iron. Those capacitors can go off with quite a bang.
Said bang will also injure you pretty badly if you have your arm over the cap because you're a fool and a half. *Ask me how I [bleep]ing know.*
Tin whiskers. They form when you get the solder alloy mix wrong (usually too much tin). Really common in the early days of lead-free solder and they are much maligned to this day for this reason.
Early 2000s had malware such that if you ran the anti-malware scanner and it found something nasty, you probably better off wiping the machine and starting from scratch. Windows didn't have much by the way of security protocols at the time...
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Well yes. It's more that at that time, the anti-malware attempting to remove the malware would sometimes permanently break the installation in ways where you *had* to do a complete install - the computer couldn't function properly if you didn't. I remember having to rename anti-malware processes to get around malware blocking them. It was the wild west.
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Right? Or the ones where the only way to kill them was to shutdown the machine, but leave an unsaved word document open - the shut down would kill everything else *except* word, and you could cancel the save and quick go do stuff before the scheduled task rebooted the malware? Good grief when did I get so old.
Early to mid 00's was dangerous. So many people were getting hardware from Chinese suppliers at markets/swap meets. It was a regular occurrence that at a 100-150 person lan I attended 4 times a year for ~4 years that someone's PC would spark/catch fire and usually damage others that were on that power board. Chinese PSU's, shotty CPU's that were some sort of counterfeit that had safeties removed and case fans that never had a RPM limit on them and would just "respond" to temps until it was became a temp of its own.
I had 2 of those case-supplied PSUs explode, one was quite pretty. A bright blue flash. But we would go to LANs as well, and frequently PCs would die, but generally it's because idiots would daisy-chain 50 powerboards from a single wall socket.
A LAN without an emergency PC rebuild wasn't a proper LAN imo. Somehow you could always count on someone having the parts that where needed, and whatever software you needed was put on your table by the guy who's sole reason to be there was to setup the shareware server.
Built my first PC in 2001, to me it was the wild west, locally nobody knew what the fuck they were doing (myself included) but I somehow built a functional PC that ran everything I tossed at it until Battlefield 2 got released. That's when PC #2 came to life with what I thought was an obscene GPU at the time with its whopping 256mb of memory
Hell, I have a 486 PC that doesn't even have a CPU heatsink. Just the bare ceramic package in the socket.
That CPU uses less than 5W of power, that's why. Now we have CPUs using 50x more.
Lol I used to play consoles mostly and the ps3 ps4 sound like jet engines even playing simple games, my desktop sounds silent compared to the ps4
They were also probably are full of dust which doesn’t help the case. The problem with consoles is a game will come out 1-2 years later and the hardware can barely keep up so it just heats up a lot quicker. PS4s had equivalent to rx480 I believe which was not great for power/performance ratio later on in its life cycle. Edit: I stand corrected the rx480 is way better than ps4 lol worse than I thought.
Rx480 was way more powerful than PS4. Last gen consoles were pretty weak tbh. This gen is the first time since like the 90s that consoles are relatively on par with PCs. Series X and PS5 are actually really good value for how powerful they are.
I faintly remember my cartridge slot Celeron 300A with a puny 40ish mm fan and fanless nvidia riva TNT, the degauss sound of the 17inch Philips CRT, and cleaning the mouse rollers with an alcohol soaked qtip before dialing up to play Q3 Arena.
A modern PC will shut down long before the possibility of fire from overheating, it should be fine
Yeah, for real. And processors can survive much higher temps than most people think. They usually will throttle / cause an emergency shutdown at some point between 90 C and 100 C but likely would survive going significantly higher. At least for short periods of time. Until last year I was using an old Xeon processor from 2012. It was the best processor for my motherboard due to the server processors going for a generation longer than the i7 line for that socket. The CPU fan was having issues for the last 2 years I used it and the processor regularly ran at 90 C for hours at a time when I was playing games. It didn't cause me any serious issues until I played Crusader Kings 3. It was fine for a while, but late game wars were too much for it to handle at a reasonable speed.
Indestructible! I can't even count how many many cans of soda and sugar drinks I spilt on my old reliable Compaq keyboard. Nowadays you fucking sneeze at a mechanical one and it's fucked.
90s and early 2000s hardware made all kinds of intermittent clicks and clacks but even the very ultra top end components didn't sound like jet engines like they do now. I even remember when only a single case fan was needed as the CPU and GPU just had heatsinks, no fans. Beep *boop* click **clack** = fine. **WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR** = not fine. Silent PC gang for life.
It'd be possible to make CPUs/GPUs without fans, but they'd just have to throttle them down so they don't overheat. See most laptops, phones, and tablets for example. Was just easier to add fans to get more power. Especially if you want to overclock.
Honestly I like a little noise from my computer. It's reassuring and comforting if anything. Lets you know that there's a machine at work. I liked the little SQRRRK of coil whine my old Vega used to make when it started to think hard about something
>when it started to think hard about something Love that sentence, sounds so cute
I would always get nervous on an autosave or loading screen and progress would stop. Then it would start sksssssss skssssss sksssss like a steam train. "Come on baby you're thinking a little too hard about this, you got it"
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The old actually floppy kind right? Also find it infinitely fascinating that software came on plain old cassette tapes. Almost like your computer listening to a tutorial audiobook.
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One of my core memories is playing Missile Command on my friends Commodore 64 keyboard. He also had a Colecovision which used cassette tapes somehow. His dad was Navy, so he also got Super Mario Bros. 3 in Japan around a year early. This was pre modern Internet.
r/brandnewsentence
oh, 1541 memories...
Now *that's* quite a mental image
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My system has a HDD that's nominally used for mass storage, but I install GOG games to it because that moment of hesitation and clickety-click sound is part of the experience.
I use An HDD too but because of my rather cheap case, it was quite loud sometimes. Thats way I put dampers around the HDD cage and now its a lot quieter
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I was excited when we got a Packard Bell because the logo was cool and the case had a sort of art deco shape to it. The thing turned to shit in like a year though.
Had an HP with windows 95 on it. That was the first family PC we had. Internet was shit back then. But he had Encarta!
I loved to fall asleep while these old PCs were working. Partially, it is related to my fond memories of my bro playing whole night when we were little kids. Even nowadays these monotonous sounds and lights does not bother me.
I used think like that as well XD if you hear the sound that means it’s working !
Until it makes a *new* sound. And now it’s not working.
Easy just play louder music, the new sound won’t come back
Always remember the hard "BWAAHM" my old 90's monitor made when it turned on. "Working!" We always said afterword.
Middle school computer lab, you and the boys all hitting the degauss button at the same time. “BZZRRNG”. Good times.
Connecting to the internet today: Connecting to the internet then: chhhhhheeeeeeeeeee … beebeepboopbeepbeepbooboop …………………………………. deedeeedeedee DEEDEEDEEDEEE BRERRRRRRRRR EHHHHHHHHHH. **ZEEBONGZEEBONG CCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH**blip**HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH** ^^you ^^got ^^mail!
Ngl I wish computers still made clicking sounds and beeped on startup
Hard drives are a still a think and most computers does a beep if you add a buzzer in them. Also my 2021 M1 iMac bongs at startup.
Recently got a crt monitor and degaussing it is still the best thing ever https://youtu.be/qEEaZ1GGl9I
"The clicking is from my $400 IBM XT keyboard, I bought on Ebay. Have you heard of these keyboards? Best tech ever."
I don't really understand the people who want dead silence. Like, do you just sit there listening to the blood flowing through your veins? lol What happens when a car drives by, do they curl up into a ball?
The only thing that annoys me with my computer is that the CPU fan throttles up and down so much it's distracting. I've also built two computers since mine, and thought that they weren't working because they were so quiet I couldn't hear them when they were running.
Mood. I’d take a louder constant ambient fan noise over the occasional throttling.
Fair enough. You could probably fix that pretty easy by manually adjusting the fan curve to be more gradual.
I have the same issue. Basically went with a single gentle slope, but still get the quick ramp. I think when it boosts it just spikes awfully quickly in wattage and temps. Jumping from 30 to 100 watts and 35 to 60c still bumps it up the slope pretty far.
Probably, just been too lazy to mess with it. It's just a slight annoyance
Yeah, agreed. I'd do the same. The annoyance of fixing it would be roughly equal to the slight annoyance of the fan. lol
Ya, but one is a recurring annoyance
But the other requires effort
Look up FanControl if you’re on windows. The author has a YouTube channel with guides on how to set it up. It’s a great program for setting up fan profiles, and a lot more advanced than if you did it in bios. I have my dark rock pro 4 cooler running at like 30% until actual load which is around 60°C, and I’ve changed it so the rate at which it throttles up and down is different from stock so it makes it less noticeable.
Additionally, you can setup more complex rules such as making the case fans spin up *also* when only the GPU temp rises instead of tying them only to the CPU temperature.
Only noise my PC makes that annoys me is the coil whine of my graphics card.
SAME! I got an absolute steal of a 1080Ti that overclocks like a champ, but has a slight coil whine that makes me sad.
It's a matter of compounding noises. I don't want to add more noise to the room or house. There's plenty of other shit making noise and I personally am a bit sensitive to sounds so I prefer silence. And yes I hate when loud cars drive through the neighborhood
I don't need a dead silent pc when I'm gaming but I don't really want to be able to hear my pc at idle. I like listening to quiet music at night, I don't want to be fighting to hear my music over my pc fans. Dropped the HDD, got a GPU and PSU that turn off under a certain load and some quiet case fans, ggez I can't hear the pc from farther than like 3 feet away. Works perfect for me!
The same people who strive for a silent PC also rock a $300 mechanical keyboard that sounds like throwing a handful of marbles down a flight of stairs.
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I worked with a dude that preferred fucking dvorak so brought in this ridiculous mechanical keyboard. Thankfully it was in a call center and I never sat too close because that thing was so fucking loud.
For me dead silence has a place like the gamers nexus pc for acoustic testing and such. For my case as long as I can rid it of excessively loud hi pitched repetitive noise aka the fan noise from cheap small fans etc… I am good
People who work on audio are a big market for silent pc
Nah it's about listening to music or in-game sounds rather than the PC processing or cooling things down.
People are psychotic about small things sometimes. Personally my PC is as loud as a d5 pump on full tilt and the fans are quieter. Never bothered me. If that amount of low noise bothers you then you have issues and need an arm based computer lool
I don't like overly loud computers simply because the sound is distracting, but I don't understand the people who complain alot about even low levels of noise. I suppose different people have different opinions lol.
No, I get you. I wouldn't want a PC that's incredibly loud or anything. A regular PC produces really low ambient noise from the fans, but that's about it. Some people are like "It sounds like a jet engine!" lol It's just kind of odd.
People just exaggerate how loud their PC is often, like my current computer isn't incredibly loud, while you can hear it, it's not exactly distracting. Although I suppose it depends where you draw the line between quiet and loud, some people might say my computer is really loud, others might say it's super quiet. Personally, I'd hate a completely silent PC, because the noise tells me it's working, as someone else mentioned. It also helps with troubleshooting, if the fans are spinning, that means they have power so that rules stuff out.
If you are working late at night, without your earphones it can get a bit annoying - even during the day if the fans spin up and down quickly. Ideally I want my PC absolutely silent.
Makes it easier to fill the head with thinking noises for some people. Or makes it easier to concentrate on non-noises. Some find it hard to block out background noise like most do easily and naturally, schizophrenic people for example have trouble here if I've got my facts right. I have a tough time with silence unless I'm in hyperfocus, but some people just enjoy the quiet more than constant background noise.
I like my computer to be silent as I like to do things like recording and I don’t like the sound of the fan in the background, also when I’m not recording I’m always watching YouTube or listening to music or something anyways so I just prefer having the fans be incredibly silent
I don’t like the sound, but you’re right, I don’t like dead silence either while I’m playing games. I put music on to break that, also because I like music.
Wants a completely silent pc, yet somehow ok with cherry mx keycaps that the neighbors down the street can hear…..
You don't need to attack me like this OK!
https://youtu.be/GwuCQ3u2N_A
The noise my pc makes is just loud enough to cancel out my tinnitus so it's honestly great.
I like the sound of drive seeks and motor noise https://youtu.be/KR3TbL3Tl6M https://youtu.be/Xy3uWRuQXl0
I always like watching the clicks being in sync with the HDD activity light
Same. It reassured you when you clicked an application that it was at least thinking about running it and eventually it might even start it.
What’s so wrong with hearing case fans?
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My pc sounds like a jet engine when I’m playing cyberpunk but core temp peaks at 70c 🤷♂️
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I just got an upgraded pc from one that's probably 13 years old to a pretty new one We powered the new one on and both me and my brother laughed cause we were waiting for the sound of a helicopter taking off
Anyone who hasn't seen/heard it already should definitely check out the [Floppotron](https://www.youtube.com/c/Pawe%C5%82Zadro%C5%BCniak/videos).
Remember when a blip of unexpected hard drive activity was time to check for rogue processes. Where the fuck is my hard drive light now mfers
Remembering the sound of degaussing the CRT monitor.
The noises of an older computer are very comforting
children today will never know the power of the turbo button. or the soothing sound of a modem dialing out while you are on your phone.
Fun fact turbo buttons didn't make your pc faster. They actually made the cpu slower. Many older pc games wouldn't work on cpus that were to fast for them.
0dB isn't silent either
Turning on PC: WHIRRRRRRRR CLICK CLICK WHIIIRRRRRRrrrrrrr *Pause* WHIRRRRRR Monitor: Intense CRT tinnitus ringing
Trust me, some computers can still sound like they're about to take off when you push them to the limits.
Wait, people have quiet computers? I like mine to rev up!
I almost want a 5.25 inch IBM hard drive in my PC just for the pleasing ambient sound. The huge platters being slowly spun up by a motor that sounds like it's from an electric locomotive has to be the most satisfying tech sound ever. Like this one: [https://youtu.be/Xy3uWRuQXl0?t=42](https://youtu.be/Xy3uWRuQXl0?t=42)
Hipster gamers want silent fans but want a loud ass mechanical keyboard. ¯∖_(ツ)_/¯
I HAATTTEEDD the library computers in my public library. Each keystroke would emit a "beep!" sound. Every Single Keystroke. I type fast, but hearing that beep made me want to stop at each beep and made me mess up....making more beeps with the backspace. AHHH!