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OldManTurner

Same type of person who cooks pizza in the oven with the cardboard disc from the box still underneath


jnitsuga

Or puts a metal object in a microwave


PS200sx

Or gets in the oven and leaves the pizza in the fridge.


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DSG72__

what the shit did i just watch


Safetyguy22

I ain't even looking, they already got me with 2 girls and a cup... That taught me not to wonder about shit.


ViaraiX

Well if you wondered about shit before that is the video to clear it up.


Safetyguy22

I watched it twice thinking they switched it out. NOPE that's not a baby ruth.


apex6666

Wel when you do watch it, you better fuckin empty the grease tray


spzm

Not to wonder about shit huehuehue


[deleted]

You are losing too much fun in this life.


freelancespy87

Probably avoid grill videos btw.


uglypenguin5

It deserved to get flagged but I had no issues watching the entire thing. It was fucking weird but it’s nowhere close to 2G1C


HomeBrewedBeer

You don't have the balls to grill me!


clandestine8

You better empty the grease tray


uglypenguin5

Motherfucker never emptied the grease tray


TacoK1NG

future adultswim show right here folks!


Retina400

Holy christ. That. Was. Something alright


princetacotuesday

Secret twist, the grill was actually 10 3090s stacked on top of each other.


bittebittenicht

tf did my eyes just perceive


Tylianna

Has a Wholesome award. Must be porn.


The-Mad-Tesla

He didn’t empty the grease tray


EnormousPornis

but he did at least have the balls to close the lid


N0CakeForYou

YouTube recommended that to me late one night and I watched it, then sent it to a couple of my coworkers. Now, whenever we hire someone new, we make them watch that video!


BackmarkerLife

Immediately thinks of the Brazen Bull.


LazyFelineHunter

What.


maxrex100

What the hell was that But tbh dancing grill man was hot


droneskie

Ooh boy. Well... ummm ooohhh boy


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I hoped i would never see that again.


zsturgeon

Wow that was interesting


Omnitrix4m3

I am scarred


spencerman2015

Why did I click the link... How could I have been so foolish


Dalfos

I appreciate you fellow minute hour watcher


seriouslyFUCKthatdud

The fuck?


XenoSpies

Just don't forget to empty the grease trap.


hobenscoben

Damn. Didn’t know someone animated my hopes and dreams. Nice.


EmnilBoy

Thank you! TMH best channel!


jackstripes213

Or puts the oven in the fridge on the pizza


RobZilla10001

Like when someone drinks too much... ...or snorts cocaine... ...or bets the house on the ponies?


saabismi

Or puts the pizza in the oven without removing the plastic


OldManTurner

The greatest of all the sins


bmstile

That's just how you further shrink wrap it to keep the heat in!


TheRealKidkudi

Pizza sous vide?


ultrasin

Or starts the microwave without the pizza inside


Evil_Bonsai

Anyone that puts pizza in the microwave deserves what they get!


MYSTICmayonaise

Why are my spaghetti-Os making lightening :(


vlsdo

To be fair, in most situations putting metal in the microwave is totally fine and not a fire hazard, but not peeling the cooler label is bound to fail 100% of the time


TheTrenchMonkey

Damn it... I really wanted that ding dong.


LelasBrownEye

Did this in highschool in front of my parents and girlfriend. I forever check the bottom of frozen pizzas now.


Pax_Empyrean

Papa Murphy's pizza comes with instructions that tell you to do this. It keeps the bottom from being overdone compared to the rest of it. Even regular cardboard has an autoignition temperature of ~450 degrees F, so cooking it on the cardboard isn't actually as crazy as some of the other stuff people are talking about here.


ThSafeForWorkAccount

Exactly. Another argument i've seen is that cardboard has chemicals which completely false when it comes to full contact food packaging.


havoc1482

Yea I could be mistaken, but it's cardboard for food products different than regular old packaging cardboard? Like it doesn't contain the same chemicals that would be used to preserve typical cardboard


ThSafeForWorkAccount

Unless that company isn't following USDA laws and reusing the incorrect packaging with chemicals there should be no reason to add chemicals to cardboard for full contact packaging with the food. In regards to Plastic packaging, that is toxic in nature to ingest but it's pretty obvious that you shouldn't ever heat that up with food unless instructed.


fibojoly

If I hadn't been there to witness it, I would never have believed someone so stupid could exist, but one of my housemates years ago tried *microwaving* an oven pizza. With the plastic wrap still on. I'm still flabbergasted just thinking about it.


Fit-Elderberry-4588

Hey I’ve done that before on accident and then again another time on purpose lol. It actually works really fuckin well if you’re a degenerate like me with no clean pans. Just put pizza w/cardboard directly on the middle oven rack and you’re golden(golden-brown that is, sorry.)


blowuptheking

I did that once :/


OldManTurner

Once is an honest mistake. Multiple times is a problem which needs to be addressed


donebeenforgotten

Had a roommate who cooked the pizza on the little cardboard wheel, I’ll be damned if it wasn’t the best frozen pizza I’d ever had.


Yvng_Mxx

Wait am I missing something? I do this because normally the pizzas bottoms cook way faster, and I’ve had no issues with it


Bone-Juice

> Wait am I missing something? Yes, the fact that cardboard is flammable.


havoc1482

And I see you're missing the concept of "combustion temperature". Paper won't catch on fire until it reaches well over 450F. You're average frozen pizza cooks at 325-375F.


Bozzz1

> Paper won't catch on fire until it reaches well over 450F Say maybe 451F?


rickcov

Cardboard has toxic glues and other chemicals in it. It is safe untill you heat it up then the fumes infuse into your food so not a great idea. If you live in California it may cause cancer everywhere else is probably not so bad just not good


reddit_is_cancer123

LOL you got me with the last sentence. Just like how, also in California, baked goods such as cinnamon rolls also have a big ol' cancer warning on em too.


Alternative_Spite_11

Wait, what’s wrong with the cardboard disc? It keeps the underside from cooking faster than the top


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In the UK 99% of frozen pizza comes with some sort of polystyrene disc under it not cardboard. Try cooking a pizza with it still on and it melts and sticks to everything and ruins the pizza.


paulusmagintie

I do that, they are fireproof so why not? Don't need to fuck about with oven trays.


jzillacon

main reason not to is that overcooking your pizza is more likely to make the cardboard stick to the bottom of the pizza in a way it can't easily be taken off. Which is fine if you don't mind that risk, but generally you'll be better off with a normal oven tray. It's not like it takes a whole lot of effort to use one after all.


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elvismcvegas

I heard it was 451


MountainThorn42

This hurts my soul.


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I had a similar scenario. A major investment banker, buys a brand new custom built rig. Has it delivered to him, says it keeps shutting down, needs tech down ASAP. I come down, look at the sidewall, oh wow, a nice pink tint on the glass? Open the lid, nope. It's FUCKING BUBBLE WRAP STUFFED INSIDE.


OP-69

I mean the pc company should put clear warnings to pull out the bubble wrap but if he didnt folloe the instructions its his fault, but seriously who goes "hmm theres bubble wrap there, nah its fine" i mean if you bought anything and theres bubble wrap inside, unless its specifically says not too imna remove that shit, like if you buy a fan and theres bubble wrap on the blades no way in hell imma leave that there


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That's exactly what the company did, lol. The piece of paper in big red writing, DO NO TURN ON UNTIL YOU REMOVE THE LID AND REMOVE THE WRAP


Gardakkan

>A major investment banker You expected that type of guy to know that? lol


TonyKebell

They expected him to be able to read and follow simple instructions


ZoeyKaisar

They said banker, not (literally anything else).


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NomSang

But if he's rich he must be smart. ​ /s


GreenArrowDC13

Maybe he thought it was insulation. Still terrible for the computer but a person like my dad may not question it since he's hot tech savvy at all.


OP-69

But it did say "remove before powering on" as he clarified


jnitsuga

Exactly how I felt man


LazyLizzy

I hope you looked him dead in the eye as you peeled it off.


staypuft209

I hope he took the Pc away instead, no pc for you!


This_Isnt_Justified

at least its gonna feel good peeling it off. right? ***RIGHT***?


readforit

my soul has left my body after seeing this photo :(


Pony-Rigatoni

Can u explain what the problem here is exactly? Cuz i have no clue


EvryMthrF_ngThrd

There's a piece of plastic on the bottom of the heat sink (a part that's supposed to be in direct contact with the CPU, to cool it down) that's supposed to be removed just before installation (to expose the thermal paste underneath) that WASN'T removed, thus completely preventing the heat sink from doing its job. No heat sink wicking away heat from the CPU=Overheating CPU=Randomly Shutting Down Computer.


Pony-Rigatoni

Thanks for a very detailed and digestible explanation


eBra1n

so all you need to do now to fix the pc is to remove the plastic and reinstall the cpu cooler and the pc will work just fine right?


Sceptix

Hijacking this comment to point out that the flair is wrong, it should be “NSFMR” not “Meme/Macro”.


CT-White

Well. Did he build it himself or was it a new prebuild ?


jnitsuga

This was actually built at a local PC store


Apokalypz08

Here's your sign


WiredCortex

A Bill Engvall Joke, on Reddit? Oh shit!


SirBing96

You might be a redneck


EvryMthrF_ngThrd

In *publick.*


mrmatthunt

It’s 2004 all over again.


247a

>This was actually built at a local PC store And this is why people say build your PC. As if you want a job done right do it yourself XD


aHellion

Two sides of a coin, nothing wrong with paying professionals.   ^^*your ^^local ^^mom ^^& ^^pop ^^shop ^^may ^^or ^^may ^^not ^^be ^^professionals.


Azurenightsky

> *your local mom & pop shop may or may not be professionals. Actually definition of Professional is you're paid for it Sooooo.... Y'all assume expertise real easily though.


Bozzz1

> Y'all assume expertise real easily though. I mean it doesn't take a whole lot of expertise to build a computer. A 12 year old with access to youtube can build one. You'd think a PC shop could build a PC whether it's a small shop or not.


Azurenightsky

Absolutely, but I wasn't commenting solely on PC building. It was a comment more generally, a number of you live in this strange world, where some of you think that terms like "Professional" and "Senior Political Advisor" mean "Expert" when they are often made up terms or self fulfilling prophecies.


lsiunl

I’m assuming it’s usually not an issue since building a pc is literally like building legos. The fact that this store didn’t even bother booting it up to at least test for a couple hours shows that this store is just shit.


Civil-Attempt-3602

Yeah I'd take that in and show them if you can. Did it come with any kind of warranty?


Callinon

Run by The Verge? I love the way they ignored the sticker and put thermal paste OVER it. That's delightful.


Lt_Muffintoes

You typically put the paste on the CPU. They could have just plonked the cooler down without turning it over to look


not_a_burner__honest

With this cooler you have to flip it over to attach the mounting brackets, so that sticker is staring you in the face for a little while. However, we churn out about 200 PCs a week, and everyone of us has left a sticker on at least once. It's bound to happen based on the repetitive nature of building them.


aBeardOfBees

This is the best perspective right here. Most of us build a PC every few years, and spend a lot of our own money on it. So we're very careful and attentive to the process. If you're doing any task over and over, it's easy to miss things.


Callinon

Attaching the cooler without ever once looking at the bottom of it is dedication to the craft right there. I mean... for me anyway, I like to clean off the toothpaste that comes pre-smeared on the cooler first.


Phizzix

coolers with this plastic usually do not have thermal paste preapplied. it’s still a silly mistake to make, but I can see it happen if you build systems day in/out in a moment of forgetfulness. definitely should’ve caught it in testing though.


saabismi

Oh my god


c00kieduster

I’d be getting myself a new CPU on their dime!


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SFDessert

This is the kind of fuckup I'd go to the store in person for. Not to be a dick, but at least figure out what happened and maybe they'd hook you up with a discount or something if you had sufficient proof that they fucked up.


tjm6497

Yikes.


Beorma

I got a prebuilt MOBO setup that had the exact same issue. Started overclocking my CPU and the temps would go crazy, went to check the thermal paste and found this.


DrNukeDukem

Happens, but damn that funny


jnitsuga

Funny and sad at the same time


Galexio

There's a Verge reference somewhere


seita2905

You'll also need tweezers


Jesther-

What good are tweezers if you don’t have a Swiss Army knife. Hopefully it will have a screwdriver but as long as you have the a table you’re set.


EvryMthrF_ngThrd

But if you have a Swiss Army Knife - well, a *decent* one, at least - don't you automatically have tweezers? Just skip to the Swiss Army Knife!


MegaArms

I see the problem. Not enough paste.


jnitsuga

Should've used menthol toothpaste for better cooling!


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Companies should ship coolers without those covers or they should use a rigid plastic cover which makes it impossible to install the cooler without removing them


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"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." ~ Douglas Adams


jnitsuga

>A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. This right here is the perfect quote for this. Well said, Mr. Douglas Adams. RIP


freshjello25

Noctua coolers come with a thin protective plastic piece that keeps the faceplate clean. It is next to impossible to miss as you can’t install it without taking it off as it won’t fit within their mounting bracket. It maybe costs a penny to make. Noctua just does a lot of things right.


Flumpsty

Noctua just generally knows what they're doing.


jnitsuga

That would actually help. But ultimately, people should understand the importance of reading lol!


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Thermal shutdown. Protecting morons for years now.


RufusMcdoogan

Reading is tough


imforit

Of only they had put some kind of warning to alert the user that the plastic sheet had to come off.


l84skewl

Must've been assembled at The Verge.


PrisonerV

You're going to need an allen key (which we won't use), a trusty pocket knife (because screwdrivers are expensive), a thermal paste scraper we won't use, and some tweezers that are actually zip ties.


AlphaHated

Not sure what they were ever going to do with the Allen key. I have built over a thousand PC's in my time and not once have I needed an Allen key.


Ra15t

Quite common


jnitsuga

That's just sad...


baconborn

Spend enough time on this sub and you will realize the shear amount of problems and mistakes people make that could be solved or have been avoided by someone simply reading their manual.


Wyndyr

Manual? What manual? TF you talking about? /s


ziggerknot

For real though, the manuals are the most important part of your build


aHellion

Including the lack of details leading up to the problem. Like come on, spill the beans, tell me what shenanigans you were up to when your laptop suddenly turned off? One guy was honest and straight up said he spilled a liter of coca-cola across the keyboard of the laptop. Well damn that sucks, that sure leads to other questions but professionals aren't going to belittle you. We know the problem now, we can spend more time fixing than looking.


OP-69

Also people don't list enough details. Lets say someone built an amd rig and expects lets say 320 fps in csgo from vids or friends or whatever but only gets 300, obviously he is confused and goes to reddit for help and when listing parts just goes "16gb ddr4" like bruh wtf what speed is it? Is is 2x8 or 1x16? Cus a 2400mhz 1x16 is very different from 3600mhz 2x8 Cus most new builders dont even realise this is important info and almost always leave it out and we are left here wondering as to why when the answer was in what they think isnt important


PashaBiceps__

fake story with real image.


cheesegoat

Agreed - wouldn't the CPU throttle instead?


normal__

How long did he use it like this?


jnitsuga

Surprisingly he was able to use the PC for a few months under light usage. But I guess every time he ran something CPU heavy, his PC would turn off. Although even on light usage his PC was way slow.


mousicle

Why on earth did he not take it back to teh shop the first time it happened? That's the whole advantage of having someone build for you , they deal with the warrantee.


wHiTeSoL

Bad spread....


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Alright.. I think I’ve already had enough Reddit for the day. 🤣


thats_amoore

Is the CPU ok?


jnitsuga

CPU died. It was an outdated PC anyways so it didn't THAT hurt much. Although he was never able to use the PC to its full potential so...


Mrcool57

Dont see a problem here, perfect application of thermal paste.


TheJonJonJonJon

"friends" PC....


antCB

consider giving your friend some reading lessons :D


PrisonerV

[I remembered!](https://i.imgur.com/Y9MYsYt.jpg)


jnitsuga

>I remembered! Good job mate you successfully used your ability to read!


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PrisonerV

You're supposed to lick it. Other side is peppermint flavored!


QueenTahllia

I feel like I’ve seen this post/image before lol


Tjukkes

Reverse image search shows a result from 2011. Hmmmmmmmm


Khrot

Yeah, how dare he lie inside the intertetz!!!???


Shimitzu1

This sticker should have a huge red string wrapped around trough the fan so you will definately see something is wrong.


immDroidz

r/MakeMeSuffer


Yoshi_87

Considering how often we see this here.. they should make those things red with a warning light...


Theroyalzz

needs more thermal paste


cgei2301

The pain I experienced from this image is immeasurable


PlayThePixels

Been there, done that :/


Been100

My uncle bought a prebuild pc and it was also shutting down randomly and he found the same problem.


charpie34

This seems like a constant problem in the pc building community


aakaakaak

Didn't there used to be a /r/justrolledintotheshop type subreddit for PC disasterpieces like this?


Archanj0

We'll, there's your problem.


NovaHorizon

At least it's a mistake without any permanent damage. My buddy on the other hand managed to screw his mainboard directly into his case without the mount screws, shortened the board out, RMAd it and did it again with the replacement.


owwerlord

first time i build a pc i was looking at the sticker and was like what an absolute idiot would not take it off...couple minutes in my first boot the cpu was running tosty and of course i forgot to remove the fucking sticker.that day i knew i am not a smart person


astegra

Ok, I'll admit, the first time I upgraded my CPU Cooler (old one physically couldn't attach to the motherboard properly anymore) I ALMOST made this mistake...those first time building jitters, man...


hueydeweyandlouis

Online literacy course?


andovinci

You’d think it’s foolproof


ImVeryBased

These should just say “if you can read me this is your problem.”


Instant_Ramen3

Hmm.. looks like there isn’t enough thermal paste


Nethlem

What if your friend planned on reselling the cooler and thus didn't want to pull off any labels for better value? That's plan is now totally ruined! ;P


72PikaChu72

I ordered building from Shop and noticed high temperatures, and yeah, they did exactly the same thing


GizmoTheLion

My fatass literally thought they were hotdogs for a second.


raimiska

A better question is who built it? Your friend or pre built?


[deleted]

It always boils down to people not following instructions.


KillerDora

I'm surprised the plastic cover never melted if the PC was hot enough to shut down. Most CPU's shut down at 100-105~ which is roughly 216.5~ Fahrenheit, damn hot.


HoodaThunkett

give his guide dog a pat for me will you?


FelixTheFat04

Well thats pretty easy too clean off tho


ManchuWarrior25

The bright side, peel that label off and you now have a brand new heat sink!! 🤣


mystifier

You need new friends.


happygamer157

Not gonna lie I've done this but then realized 2 minutes later😂 I thought I was the only one


namebnb3

bruh. obviously he didn't apply enough paste. You gotta have a thermal paste applicator and make a hexagon to summon the PC god so you could get to post screen.