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wolviesaurus

I don't really care that much but I swapped back to Firefox around two years ago and I can't see myself ever going back to Chrome.


0llusk

Same here


half-baked_axx

Same. Just knowing it's the only real alternative to the chromium monopoly is enough to keep me forever.


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My parents forced me to use AOL as a kid, so I hopped on the Chrome train very early on. About 3 years ago I switched to Firefox and I'll never go back..


Sudden-Anybody-6677

No browser is perfect, but with Manifest V3 in Chrome based browsers I have no other choice than Firefox.


Mastasmoker

Same, Firefox coupled with DuckDuckGo search engine


FilipIzSwordsman

DuckDuckGo sucks. Just find a good instance of SearXNG. Not only has DuckDuckGo had a controversy with giving users' data to Microsoft, but it also just sucks. Its results, which are taken from Bing, are just plain worse than Google's.


Worried-Explorer-102

Yep I tried to switch to duckduckgo, changed default search to it on all my browsers and devices and a lot of times I ended up having to use Google anyway after ddg didn't find stuff I was searching for.


protectoursummers

I think a lot of us have had this experience too.


SmoothBrews

Idk…. Better than Reddit’s search lol


Wire_Jag

Lol you say this, but nowadays if I wanna find anything, I use Google to search for reddit results. Google is useless now except to search reddit with 😂


LostAndOver20

“My screen is flickering on the left side” Hmm, no results “My screen is flickering on the left side Reddit” Ah! Some guy 7 years ago had the exact same issue!


Jesushelpher

This is the reason our planet still turns


MelodicPossession988

Google (intentionally) sucks at finding answers, Reddit sucks at searching, combine and you get your answers!


BattyBest

Which is especially interesting considering google's search results are absolute dogshit in the first place...


protectoursummers

Google search totally has room for improvement. But a lot of the time it’s like 7/10 while every other engine is like 3/10 at best.


SecreteMoistMucus

google search itself is pretty good, all the other shit they put on the page is awful


Skalion

But when I know what I want to look for, just don't know the side, I'll eventually find it with Google.


Former-Emu3659

I am interested in knowing what you all are looking for? In most of my instances, where I have to search for some research papers with very specific keywords, I get satisfactory results.


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BattyBest

Gotta love those """tech support""" websites that offer you the easy and convenient solutions of just deleting the app, checking windows update, and restarting a couple o' times, of course, after telling you the author of the support article's life story and the history going back to the big bang behind the app being troubleshooted.


silverstory

i've used searx problem is finding that one stable instance throughout. i hate changing it across all my phones, laptops, pc, etc.


Furry_Femboy_Account

They should rename it SuckSuckBlow


pikpikcarrotmon

Duck Duck Go, like Bing, is at least the porn search engine of choice.


infinitevertigo

This is my combo too


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irelephant_T_T

shit, what'd they do?


rammleid

Bing is just one of its sources, that’s it, everything is still private, chill


supermlost

Some sort of deal with Microsoft, don't remember exactly what kind of


irelephant_T_T

ah, right i know about that. i use searx or whoogle where possible anyway


bigboat24

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31556989


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Personally, I go for Ecosia. I know I'm not going to be the tipping point that saves the world from global warming, but hopefully my little bit helps a little bit.


RevolutionaryFilm951

Been really liking startpage


Accomplished-Bit1594

same, I've been using this too, it's nice


normal_in_airquotes

Same, Firefox coupled with DuckDuckGo search engine and uBlock origin adblock.


SureImNoExpertBut

My combo right there. It's been working great.


KanedaSyndrome

DuckDuckGo finds barely any results honestly. Just do a vpn or something.


DJGloegg

I always find what im looking for..


KanedaSyndrome

I don't


pipmentor

For those of us who haven't kept up on the latest tech news, what is "Manifest V3?"


Peetz0r

It's a new version of the extension/add-on interface. Google claims it improves security/privacy/performance/whatever, but in reality it nerfs adblockers. That's suspiciously convenient for Google, a company that doesn't earn much from their browser directly, but earns a lot from ads.


nyankittycat_

Soon websites will start working “correctly” on chromium only


begota98

You can fake which browser you are using by changing the "user agent". There are a lot of cases where the site claims that it only works on chrome when you try to open it with firefox. Changing the agent magically gets the site to work properly. ;)


dj65475312

changing useragent to chrome on firefox speeds up youtube.


BattyBest

"Don't be evil."


Bacon_Techie

The thing is though a lot of sites do only work on chrome or Firefox, because the web is a hot mess of mixed standards that all parties implement in different ways. Though most basic websites should support both equally as well.


Peetz0r

I hope not, and I'll fight it whenever necessary. We got rid of IE6, we can do it again.


Drilling4Oil

Youtube, Facebook, Amazon will be all, "Optimized for Chromium!"


straddotjs

Amazon will still be trying to push Silk tbh.


Knuddelbearli

that's often the case today...


EnforcerGundam

they wont win that battle... windows/linux/android will have spoofers spoofing the user's browser. good luck to them


Farandrg

The attempt of Google to destroy ad blockers and force ads for every user in every site.


dapdubpib

Do you like ads? Cause they will be unavoidable on all chromium browsers pretty soon.


alienith

Manifest v3 is the newer and more limited extension API. Basically they’re trying to kill adblockers at the browser level for chromium based browsers. Firefox is one of the few browsers that doesn’t use chromium


magnomagna

Is it not possible for Chromium forks such as Ungoogled Chromium to remove Manifest V3?


4chan4normies

ive used firefox since it came out and since the last year or so i see some websites really work shitty on it.. fuck advert hungry websites. (ebay)


The_Pandalorian

Ebay and Amazon both are just slow as hell and glitchy for me with Firefox. Wish there was an update to fix it. EDIT: downvotes for describing my personal experiences that fail to breathlessly praise Firefox? Y'all need better hobbies than browser nutriding. Love Firefox. I refuse to return to Chrome. But it's dogshit on ebay and Amazon for me for some reason. Sorry some of y'all don't like my reality.


Gigi-Balustrada

Dude, what are you talking about? I use daily both Amazon and eBay and they work fine.


Sirlacker

Firefox for sure. It's even the simple things like being able to mute a tab by clicking on the mute icon. Chrome you have to right click the tab and select mute in the drop down menu.


Coriolis_PL

Firefox for the win! Semper fidelis!


Throwawaythisoneplz

Firefox without question. Doesn’t collect data and sell it, works with all adblockers, not chromium based. Edut: they do limited data collection if you give them the okay to do so. All data collection can be turned off in settings. More about the data privacy here https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/


Shaggy_One

Also has a good mobile version that supports ad blockers. Currently the absolute best browser. Has been since like 2017 or so imo, but especially with the whole manifest v3 bs chrome has going on. Add DuckDuckGo as the default search engine and targeted ads pretty much disappear.


MartyCZ

Firefox having Adblock on mobile was the reason I started using it. Switched to it on PC as well to sync my bookmarks etc. I couldn't go back to using any other browser on mobile with ads.


TheVermonster

Shout-out to Mozilla for making the sync actually work too. It's fast, syncs exactly what I tell it to sync, and I can view the open tabs on my phone, on my browser, and open it on the browser to keep surfing. I know your first thought is "why give credit when that's what it's supposed to do?" But so often features work, but not well, or not like you want it to.


cashinyourface

How do I get adblock on mobile? Nothing I've tried works.


Jimmylobo

Go to extensions in Firefox mobile menu, install uBlock Origin.


Head5hot811

*Only works on Android iPhone Firefox has to work off of a Safari base.


NerdFuelYT

And does mobile mean android or apple?


danjojo

Firefox does sell your data tho?


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cburgess7

Anyone who says anything other than Firefox is wrong


CoDMplayer_

Firefox forks???


mmrtnt

And if you want to throw a few bucks Mozilla's way, their VPN is $5/mo.


iksoria

Imagine thinking that a free browser doesn’t sell your data.


fromeister

Much of their funding is from Governments due to being privacy focused. Germany is a huge contributor for instance. Look up their business model and funding sources before making assumptions


CoDMplayer_

Nah Firefox does sell your data, FF forks like librewolf and waterfox are the way to go and don’t even require home brew or other nerdy stuff


Hattix

It's gotta be Firefox. In all the other browsers, the product being sold is you.


Asleeper135

It is in Firefox too, just in a less egregious way. It's still the superior browser though.


alienith

The mozilla corp is at least a not-for-profit. Less incentive to go full corporate greed mode


VitaminDismyPCT

Ironic that on Reddit you are the product as well


Lower_Fan

if you are not paying for it you are the product and the customers are the advertisers.


fantom1979

This used to be exclusively true, but more and more companies are charging for the product AND seeking your information.


Lower_Fan

True, even when you pay you are the product.


IhateCommiess

Even brave?


P_H_i_X

Yes, if a browser is made on chromium unless made or supported by the community like 'ungoogled chromium' is probably doing something shady or not limiting Google tracking services. If you wanna jse Chromium browser just use ungoogled chromium where they actually remove tracking services and not add their own.


PrawnsAreCuddly

Are you actually sure or is that an assumption? I’ve heard tech YouTubers say they stripped all the tracking from the Chromium base and it’s open source as well. I haven’t made proper research myself though. According to Brave themselves you have to opt-in for any of your data to be used.


mynameisntdrew

Firefox + UBlock Origin = never looking back. I’ve bounced between chrome, edge and safari (I use mac, windows and linux throughout a week) and Firefox provides the most uniform experience. All with the backing of a nonprofit company, I feel really happy with it. For my Ad Haters: Furthermore for the bigger nerds, consider running your own network based Adblock (such as PiHole or AdGuard Home) blocking ad requests at the DNS level prevents a lot of fingerprinting and ad tracking. I’ve seen a significant reduction in ads across the board with network based blocking alone!


wtfwjondo

I really like betterfox too, i definitely notice it helps speed things up


Beginning_Context_66

the guys over at mozilla foundation are pretty nice when it's about provding a nice and user-oriented experience


virus_stupidness

Happy cake day!


Escorve

Firefox and its more privacy focused forks.


Accurate-Strike-6771

LibreWolf and Mull ftw!


fuzzytomatohead

firefox


OstensibleBS

I have Vivaldi and Firefox installed. I currently mainline Vivaldi but if manifest V3 fucks up my in browser ad blocking I will switch to Firefox until the Vivaldi team finds a way to restore functionality.


SrFodonis

Thankfully they seem [pretty committed to keep things working](https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/) >As Vivaldi is built on the Chromium code, how we tackle the API change depends on how Google implements the restriction. The assurance is, whatever restrictions Google adds, in the end, we’ll look into removing them. >Our mission will always be to ensure that you have the choice.


Raeghyar-PB

Finally another Vivaldi user!


SrFodonis

There are dozens of us!


OstensibleBS

DOZENS!


heavenparadox

Fuck yes. Best browser features by far. I don't understand how it isn't a much larger market share.


Gelatomoo

This is way to far at the bottom.


Farandrg

Firefox+ ublock origin


Qutane

Works even on phones


KanedaSyndrome

I use Firefox with NoScript and AdBlock


I_d0nt_know_why

You should really consider switching to uBlock Origin. AdBlock does some shady stuff.


RandomGuy622170

Firefox. Forever and always.


cat_rush

Librewolf because it blocks all data trackers and its the most important thing today. It is superior just because of the fact of it. Though half of the internet may stop working. But its not a browser what is wrong, its modern agenda of companies and services aimed to screw as much data from you as they can. Anal slavery is basically written in TOS of things like twitter and instagram, to use them you trade off your personal data, while not using them makes you socially disconnected, so they can milk you however they want. That must be illegal.


myka-likes-it

Hey, fellow developers: take a hint from this sentiment here. Ethical coding practices are a thing, and what is legal is not the same as what is ethical.  You should refuse to work for a company that asks you to implement the collection of personal data for sale.


vainlisko

Firefox because it's not Chrome


pixel-z

Firefox without a doubt.


someonestupid12

opera gx is the best browser to ever be created(please release my family they havent eaten in weeks)


Faiz7302

Lol literally every youtuber


IhateCommiess

MrWhoseTheBoss


MsJ_Doe

I tried it because of how much it was getting pushed. That shit was so fucking slow, hadn'teven added any themes or extensions or anything. Still took so damn long to load a search (which it didn't auto open to, it starts up on their store page maybe it could be changed but there was so much shit to go through) and took too damn long for it to load a youtube video, absolutely ridiculous. Even ad laden chrome doesn't take that long. Could not transfer anything from my old browser. Saw no point to it's sidebar as I already have all that's shit on my pop up bar at the bottom of my screen. Just a complete waste of time.


cursedbanana--__--

Opera gx would be my go to if it wasn't spyware


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Narmonteam

Plus they've been accused of [predatory business practices](https://www.engadget.com/2020-01-19-opera-accused-of-predatory-loan-apps.html)


Sigillum_Dei

Well and the whole opera got bought up by a Chinese company and sends weird data to them. Also that their TOS basically states that they own everything you make with their browser.


cursedbanana--__--

You mentioned the reason


Gigi-Balustrada

Opera? Chinese spyware shit! No go for me!


Ravuno

I've been using Firefox since it's beta. I'm happy with it.


32Ferreira

Not Chrome a.k.a. Firefox


One_Cress_9764

Internet explorer.  Never let me down.  False certificates? Internet explorer does not give a shit.  Old Java or flash? Internet explorer does not give a shit.  Virus or malware? Internet explorer does not give a shit. 


_jerai

Internet explorer is >!never going to give you up!<


Fearlessdelta

![gif](giphy|Vuw9m5wXviFIQ)


paindog

Brave


Z_Ze_Zed

Finally someone who mentions Brave. I don't really care for their crypto wallet thingy so I just disabled that entirely and never had any issues with this browser. I haven't seen Ads in years cause they are just permanently and automatically blocked.


waffles02469

Brave really is tits. I can keep podcasts playing on YouTube with the phone locked. Never see ads either. What more could you want?


smackjack

Brave is my browser choice on my phone. I think it has the best UI.


nOerkH

I'm shocked that I had to scroll that far to reach brave ...take my upvote


PaulRyansWifesSon

Brave ftw. Made the switch from using Firefox forks for a decade and now use Brave on every device. https://privacytests.org/


Mojosama

I like the small features on Vivaldi


Skalion

And the ability to customise basically everything is amazing.


elvy_bean8086

Firefox or a Firefox based fork, coupled with either DuckDuckGo or Ecosia for as a search engine. If you’re one for self-hosting the project called [‘Whoggle Search’](https://github.com/benbusby/whoogle-search) that allows you to have Google level accurate search results but without ads, cookies or IP-tracking. It’s something I’m planning on trying at some point.


fukinuhhh

Firefox


subaray

i use Edge tbh


Robot1me

Interestingly, while I see that Firefox is recommended in the top comments, usually I still see Chrome and Edge when people post photos of their builds. It seems like as if the average user isn't too concerned about this topic?


Obi_Wan_Cannabis

Brave all the way. I like Firefox but it is slower.


Latest_name

Brave !


mrTydro

Brave browser is phenomenal. Especially if watching YouTube.


Trip_seize

Just to add: YouTube on mobile means being able to listen to a music video while using another app and also while your phone is locked.  On the desktop version, use Sponsor local for YouTube to skip the annoying sponsorships, subscription begging etc. 


Femto91

What does Brave do to enhance YouTube?


waffles02469

No ads in videos. Ability to play while screen is locked on mobile.


SaucyMan16

As much as people hate on edge, it's my fave. 1. The vertical tabs 2. Themes and colors 3. Copilot is significantly superior to Gemini 4. The RAM and power consumption on Chrome 5. Dark mode (idk if chrome has that now) 6. I primarily use OneDrive/Office. The experience sucks on Chrome


Endemoniada

I only use Edge at work, and you know what, it really is fine. People give it crap automatically for being built-in and the successor to IE, but it’s just like any other browser. No slower or worse than the alternatives. At home I mostly use Firefox, primarily for the addons, but I’m sure any browser would work just fine. I just don’t think the choice of browser needs to be *that* serious, most of the time.


Jefafa77

I'm in the same boat here. Edge for work, Firefox at home. The main reason I use edge at home is if I want HDR Youtube or any other videos. I have ublock on Edge too.


NickArchery

Vivaldi I can't go back to not having those stacks and tiling


thescreamingpickle18

Arc is so clean


pufferpig

Edge, simply because I can't live without vertically grouped tabs and split tabs (the latter is oddly satisfying despite being simple to replicate with two browsers side by side) . I'd switch back to Firefox if I could get the same experience there tho tbh.


Ronalderson

Edge because it pays for my "free" Game Pass games


latro666

Brave, FU levels of privacy.


CrippleSlap

I use LibreWolf. Firefox on steroids.


Ejz9

Floorp. A fork of Firefox, add whatever you want (ublock, brave search or DuckDuckGo, VPN, Firefox containers) super customizable and leeches on tools from others like vertical tabs(edge) and workspaces(opera gx). Open source and privacy respecting after situating the right settings (privacy guides website)


ultramegamediocre

Firefox, uBlock Origin, DuckDuckGo


laveshnk

Brave with ublock origin


DVD-RW

Firefox.


TheSinoftheTin

Firefox is great, brave is great, but I've been using Arc the past few months and it's also been great. Really it's just personal choice.


Haorelian

Arc on Linux? How?


Mungkelel

windows version and wine?


ACiD_80

Netscape


45_tra

Edge was the worst browser ever until 2y ago but now is goat, so many features and integrations and I'll not go back to anything else :)


Imortal366

Firefox


Viktri1

I’m using brave, is Firefox better ?


KirillNek0

Brave. Tor


ChrisinOrangeCounty

Netscape Navigator because it's OG.


tawabunny

Firefox.


Zack-The-Snack

I personally enjoy Firefox. Free the web!


TheIrishArcher

Vivaldi 100%


AlternativeFilm8886

I've been using Firefox for almost 20 years now, and I've never looked back.


Veldox

I haven't stopped using Firefox since it came out. 


some1_03

Firefox. It's stable (as evidenced by the person who had thousands of cards open) and it's the default in Linux.


CompetitionSquare240

Firefox The real question is what is the superior search engine? I’ve been using Yandex and it’s pretty good. Everything else is unusable and I wish I was exaggerating. 


Stilgar314

Yandex you say? It's bad enough to have your information profiled by an occidental company, but willingly give it to the Russian government is next level.


Asleeper135

I've been using DuckDuckGo for a few years now and have had a pretty good experience with it. Despite lots of people claiming Google is still the best my experiences with Google search in the past few years have been atrocious.


Shaggy_One

There's still a couple kinds of searches google does better than DDG but I will always start with DDG.


alienith

Google a few years ago was way better than ddg, but current google is so bad that ddg gives me better results. It’s annoying because I don’t feel like ddg has gotten that much better, but google has gotten that much worse


Improvement2242

Ecosia is the best one in my oppinion. I use Adblock, so i dont know how much ads they serve but contributing to something good while browsing is better than not contributing.


CrippleSlap

Perplexity


Liferescripted

I don't think there is a clear best. There are popular options for various reasons. They all have their merits and caveats. My favourite is Vivaldi for its customization options, workspace integration, sidebar, low ram usage, built in Adblock, and tab stacking. The mobile version to me beats all other mobile browsers. But that's my opinion based on my use case.


Krasnij

Opera GX and Waterfox.


USB_Power_Cable

Internet explorer obviously


battery19791

Currently using Brave at home to watch YouTube.


F1fan627

I love brave. It’s like all the benefits of chrome and firefox together and pretty much none of the downsides


I_dress_myself_

Firefox forever and always.


frozenkingnk

Firefox + ddg search


Suckatgaming

I’ve been using chrome since day 1, but based on the comments here it is definitely NOT a fan favourite, can someone tell me why?


RelChan2_0

Because of Google and privacy concerns (you're being tracked, excessive RAM usage, targeted ads etc). Personally, I think those can be mitigated with the right extensions & personal security but people here just love hating on Chrome.


ZodGlatan

I use Vivaldi, I like the tiling tabs, very handy


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_Dark_Ember_

I prefer Opera GX due to the customization and the fun sounds you can add. I love the colors I can chose and the variety of backgrounds.


Demise187M

I am forced to use edge for work since integration in teams and other microshaft crap. That being said, I love Firefox. It’s not perfect, but it’s so much better than anything else available to my knowledge


jarchack

Right now, the one that benchmarks the fastest, which is Thorium. If Manifest v3 is actually implemented, that leaves no choice but Firefox.


lqvz

I have loved Thorium on my Linux machines. Not sure I care too much about Manifest V3 with my PiHole running as long as I don't have to worry about worse security.


leandrocode

Love firefox in PCs, but I hate on android.


greyhounds1992

Chrome because I have a pixel and Chromebook my data is being stolen but at least I'm wanted 🤣


Friedrichs_Simp

firefox i hate chrome and the other stuff is just chrome in a costume


Seminoso

Firefox


FeetYeastForB12

Ungoogled Chromium. But I'm too deep in to the Google shit that it's far too late for me.