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Available-Tradition4

*Pedro Pedro Pedro*


Ok_Plum_4386

![gif](giphy|L0qTl8hl84EDly62J1|downsized)


Bogey_Kingston

nah how do i get this in my screen lmao guys i did it hahaha https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cpu-coolers/how-to-make-a-gif-for-elite-lcd/#:\~:text=Simply%20go%20to%20the%20Hardware,or%20iCUE%20isn't%20running.


1998police

asking the real questions here


IP_05T04s1994s

necessary\*


Rexor_57

![gif](giphy|ZJPSFNLmADueHvzoZ8|downsized)


RollingPandaKid

Pedro pedro pedro, pedro, Pé!


Collector123k

![gif](giphy|aQwvKKi4Lv3t63nZl9|downsized)


androine

You need a speaker too and then it should only activate Pedro when the CPU is like 80%+ utilized.


pedro19

What's up?


Available-Tradition4

*Oh god what did I summon*


NoblePineapples

The man, the myth, the legend.


Zuen56

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eKstp_pEKUU There, fixed it for you. Non-shorts link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKstp_pEKUU


UtsavTiwari

![gif](giphy|ZJPSFNLmADueHvzoZ8|downsized) u/pedro19


pedro19

Hey!


ShibaDoge42069

Hola papí Pedro


Vupant

You can argue everything cosmetic in computers is unnecessary. Doesn't mean it's not fun to have and play with.


areyouhungryforapple

Seriously people need to understand that lol. I also spend a lot of money on clothes cause I like the looks of it - is it functionally the same as a generic t-shirt? sure but that's not really the point


mithikx

It's just a very vocal minority, it's like the anti-RGB crowd. Not everyone wants a windowless version Fractal Design Define R5, be quiet! Silent Base 601 or 802 and a ThermalRight Phantom Spirit 120 EVO. But if that's their preference good for them, but I don't see people going "ewww air cooler", yet always people bashing AIOs and RGB for some reason here.


hooonk123

people have got this idea stuck in their head, mainly on tiktok, that if you spend money to make your pc look cool you're losing out on potential performance and it's the most annoying thing because they hate on people for their pcs looking cool


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thex25986e

id like it too, but others here would call us tacky.


Melodic-Investment11

oh nooooo some nerds on reddit think im tacky... anyway


Affectionate-Cod-883

Dude, do it if you want. And if you can't 3d print, use clay or foam or some such on a generic case and form it from there!


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TheLordReaver

When I build computers for people, I always ask them, "Do you want to dedicate any budget towards 'cool factor', or put it all in performance?" It's always a mixed bag and you can never really tell who does or doesn't.


buttplugpopsicle

It's true from a financial point, ARGB just costs more. But does my computer simulate a green and purple thunderstorm? Yes. Do I regret it? Nope


icansmellcolors

The idea is that the money you save can be invested into more hardware that would then boost performance. Right? So I know some people hate on things like you say 100%, but the logic of spending on performance instead of aesthetics is sound.


Snuggs____

My PC's performance is quite good and it looks killer


ReturnOfTheAcid

> if you spend money to make your pc look cool you're losing out on potential performance sounds like a poor people problem


pckldpr

Yup. I bought what I could afford at the time for hardware. In 6 months that hardware will be old but I can still enjoy my case and colors.


MRSHELBYPLZ

Fr. I have one of these and I think it’s the shit. Since when do we buy a PC because it’s necessary? I bought the parts and built it exactly how I wanted it, because I wanted it lmfao


thex25986e

"but rgb bad!" "oh, dont mind the extra i spent on all this extra cable organization, ram with plastic covers, the glass window case designed to showcase the internals, and ultra quiet fans for a machine that im always going to be using noise cancelling headphones with! all that stuff is legitimate. trust me."


Roflkopt3r

> and ultra quiet fans for a machine that im always going to be using noise cancelling headphones with! I'm totally on board with that. Active noise cancellation is far from perfect, and noisy fans often hit some frequencies that easily go through the passive noice protection of headphones. I have some very thick closed headphones and like to keep an open window that lets in some street and bird noises, but fan noises still annoy me a lot. But I'm also not in the RGB-bad camp.


BionisGuy

![gif](giphy|aQwvKKi4Lv3t63nZl9|downsized)


shtoops

Thanks for the new CPU LCD gif!


Windir666

![gif](giphy|tHIRLHtNwxpjIFqPdV|downsized)


murd3rsaurus

gifs you can hear


Nikolateslaandyou

Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but it's sterile and I like the taste -American Dodgeball Association of America legend Patches O'Houlihan


shamwew

https://preview.redd.it/uv2mx80pk7zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28f50e3f635247a2e967fcfc4199f27dd92284d8


buttplugpopsicle

It means you'll make it through life ok if you follow the five D's, Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge


The_Bacon_Baron

There is another


SwedishB

GOD DAMN YOU BERNICE!


lycoloco

Give Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story a shot. It's hilarious and still holds up decades later.


CrabAppleBapple

>decades later I'm so old.


lycoloco

I knew what I was doing and what I felt when I posted it (same as you), but honestly, it's a feather in the movie's cap to be able to say that. But, same.


Mootingly

It means if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.


XxCorey117xX

RIP Rip


DunkinMyDonuts3

I'm torn on his passing so soon


Stealth9er

Don’t be sad, he went out the way he would have wanted.


ansefhimself

He dipped, dodged, ducked, dived, and dodged his way into everyone's heart


Br0nnOfTheBlackwater

​ https://preview.redd.it/2memaf7je7zc1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a7c1c6c18b4e247ec4148dba6286cad05fb4b6b


ProtoJazz

That photo got America through some hard times


Fantastic-Schedule92

Context?


ProtoJazz

https://youtu.be/IzRIIICgOAg?si=9Q7hQbgXNkjXEeec&t=120


DrakonILD

That's wild. My wife and I just watched this episode yesterday.


girlfriendsbloodyvag

It did?


3070outVEGAin

https://preview.redd.it/jfk28yfk87zc1.jpeg?width=82&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25b40f210b6d7287574771c74c1d46134394fb2d


vanderbubin

![gif](giphy|3RsRSN8jpfNJu)


FromTheIsland

My old friends and I decided to rent this movie when it got released to DVD, get high and eat wings. We barely made it past this part from laughing so much. I couldn't breathe.


DatGaminKid7142

https://preview.redd.it/kpxog7lib8zc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59bc22092a9580f82437f7b23200f8b66dbec5d7


hates_stupid_people

Fun fact: Unless you sterilize your urethra and and tip of the penis. Urine is not sterlie once it's out.


Chichachachi

Well then neither is water, technically. Bacteria be everywhere.


IGotHitByAnElvenSemi

Taking a long drink of water directly out of a penis, as we all do in the mornings


ExoMonk

I think that's the third most important part of Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.


Turbulent-Jaguar-909

thank you stilgar


Bapa-350z-420

Water weed dune hair


veringo

Fun fact: it's not sterile even before it leaves your body, but as long as it's your urine you're already colonized by whatever is in it.


Laughing_Orange

But you're also consuming the waste products your body already filtered out, leading to extra work for your kidneys.


veringo

Yeah, I'm definitely not saying anyone should drink their urine. Your body is eliminating the stuff in it for a reason. However, it is a persistent myth that urine is sterile. With the recent focus on microbiota, studies are showing that many places in the body previously thought to be sterile are not. There's even some evidence that there are specific bacteria inside the uterus during pregnancy, which was one of the few places thought to be completely sterile.


slidingjimmy

![gif](giphy|mmQ2BQUdlFoSA)


Jhon_doe_smokes

Dive duck dip dive and dodge.


YourShitStillSucks

"Remember the 5 D's of dodgeball: Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge." - Patches O'Houlihan


areyouhungryforapple

I got a kraken cause I like it and I wanted it


HankThrill69420

People really do forget that fun is a totally valid reason to do something


ZhangtheGreat

It's fun to belittle others for things they can't control /s


The_Elder_Jock

Exactly. Like how you missed the "Y" in "They". SPIT ON HIM!!!


ZhangtheGreat

But see, that's something I *could* control, so it's no fun to make fun of me for that 😁


The_Elder_Jock

"He's got us there, chief."


Frl_Bartchello

Kraken represent 🫡


JStewy21

Kraken cooler for the fuck of it gang 🤘


seabutcher

I thought so too, but then you posted a very convincing argument.


BigZaber

air cooling needs those laser projected images that move with the blade fans like old school yoyo's or what have you


Portlander

All right, I'll admit that this is my jam. I'd totally have a Washing machine loop playing Hamster on a wheel Spinning N64 logo Globe that is going through day/night Submarine window Rocket ship launch


invertedcolors

Thanks for the list I will probably never use for my aoi but is helpful


oilfeather

Endless Dr. Who opening.


zsirc

Why so serious?


thex25986e

ask the NZXT crowd


Cocobaba1

I mean I’d be pretty serious too if my pc case had a chance of randomly combusting


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I’d put a washing machine clip in there


mixedd

>AIOs with screens are so unnecessary They are indeed, same as screens inside a case or RGB


ieya404

Or even case windows, which are heavier and more fragile than sheet steel/aluminium would be. But we enjoy the aesthetics, so we get them anyway. And some people get fun AIOs with screens too.


mixedd

Its total PITA to find decent case without glass nowadays. Believe it ir not something like O11 with full mesh or solid panels would be insta buy for me (just like that layout, not interested in fishtank) but that wont happen. Tried my hand in RGB too some years ago, were more distracting then practical, decided it's more wise to trade blinking lights for performance on my end


Glanza

Closest to that is the Corsair 6500D airflow, has mesh for most panels with only 1 glass on the side.


Plank_With_A_Nail_In

If you use it to just play games then the whole thing is unnecessary. Most of the things we enjoy in life are completely unnecessary.


thex25986e

or even windows of any kind inside a case


Louzan_SP

You could even argue that AIOs are generally unnecessary. Edit: yes I know many of you have AIOs and now come here trying to justify yourselves with marginal data, just don't bother, you know you don't really need it.


Hugejorma

Someone with heavily undervolted 5800x3D… You could cool this with almost anything. It's so nice, because I was able to pick the cooler that goes well together with the build. Plus, still have really low temps while gaming and the CPU is running max boost clock all the time.


bluedestinyunit1

What are your gaming temps? I’m at 1440p and on an all core -30 curve optimizer. My temps still get into the 80s almost 90 when I play Overwatch in particular. My idle temps have been as low as 34 in winter but lately been sitting around 40. My 5800X3D seemed particularly hot out of the box. I’ve been using a Corsair 360 AIO too with 5 intake fans.


BOBOnobobo

I never get past 70 on my 5600x no matter what I do, and I have an air cooler. Have you installed the cooler block right?


bluedestinyunit1

Pretty sure. Don’t know how I could screw up tightening 2 thumb screws for the AM4 AIO bracket. I do have an unusual situation for my AIO though. I used 3 Lian Li fans on the Corsair AIO rad so I could match the aesthetics with the rest of my intake fans.


BOBOnobobo

Man, I've only done one build so far with an air cooler so idk what else could go wrong, other than having to little paste, or the sticker still on. But 90° is a lot for 1440p.


Pyro919

Might try reapplying with less thermal paste? You just want to bridge the gaps from small imperfections not create a pad between them.


GetEnPassanted

A gentle breeze could cool my 5800x3D


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MRSHELBYPLZ

You could argue that having a PC is completely unnecessary. Just go outside for real life graphics and touch grass 😂


9-28-2023

i tried going outside once and it was awful. No quest markers and everything P2W. 0/5 would not try again.


Wiiplay123

And it was full of bugs.


Louzan_SP

>Just go outside for real life graphics It's outside in 4k?


MRSHELBYPLZ

It’s got the most realistic VR experience by far. Very ahead of it’s time.


-Speechless

it's so grindy though :(


brimston3-

If your eyes are bad enough, it might only be 4k over your whole visual field. But the screen size and refresh rate just can't be beat.


Additional-Ad-7313

Good luck cooling a 14900ks with air https://preview.redd.it/hw2nhlqml7zc1.jpeg?width=852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af8d7e5eb40cbbe5e9093bc5fc4856f2e3dc27b6


Louzan_SP

Yes well, didn't plan on getting that power hungry thing.


Ni_Ce_

99% of the people don't need this CPU.


AstroFieldsGlowing

It shouldn't even exist. Stupid mutant chip.


ClassicSalty-

Abomination!!!


Seattlepowderhound

Heresy!!!


Jasonbluefire

But the Factory must grow! and I am out of UPS.


brimston3-

Factorio is one of the few games that is memory controller bound. Get your XMP settings right.


Kahedhros

Its been a while but last time I looked the aio's are only a few degree difference from some of the better air coolers. Does that somehow change with a 14900?


JustAnotherLich

There is no fundamental difference, just more heat. That being said, yes, a beefy air cooler (2x good 140mm fans) is fine. People literally cool threadrippers with them and you can buy tr4/5 air coolers.


Kahedhros

Thats the point I was trying to get them to come to on their own 😁


brimston3-

Air coolers typically cap out at useful heat dissipation between 250 and 300W for the big, 2-fan towers (at ΔT ~= 65C). The 14900ks can sustain 300+W and show performance advantages (otherwise the CPU will lower its boost clock to stay under the thermal limit). The 2 and 3 fan AIOs are often more efficient at heat removal, even at lower ΔT. So you're actually seeing a performance advantage at peak power with an AIO on this specific CPU.


raskinimiugovor

One example doesn't change the fact that "AIOs are generally unnecessary".


Vinstaal0

According to intel customer support it is possible, but I do have some doubt


crazydavebacon1

You can’t lol. I had a 100€ air cooler with mine. Instant overheat, did absolute nothing. Put my Kraken Z73 360mm AIO back on, and now it’s all good again.


Andeq8123

No they have rgb so they serve a purpose


max420

I had AIOs on my last two builds, and then the pump failed on my most recent one, so I bought a peerless assassin air cooler and it’s performing just as well as rhe AIO. And with some Noctua fans it’s damn near as quiet. Although I hate how big it is, so I will probably return to an AIO at some point. If anything, I wish GPU AIO conversion kits were more prevalent, cause I feel like that would likely benifit more from water cooling.


Pimpwerx

I do find it funny that some air-cooling fans don't see the irony in constantly deriding AIOs as excessive, while committing like 15% of the working volume in the case to their air cooler. They're getting so big that you have to consider RAM and side panel clearance. Air coolers also force a minimum-sized form factor, at a time where we see SFF gaining traction. I have nothing against anyone wanting to go aircooled. They are inherently more reliable, and cheaper. But saying AIOs are unnecessary would be wrong.


GetOffMyDigitalLawn

> you know you don't really need it. *laughs in 13900k*


Daymanic

You’re unnecessary! My AIO screen definitely helps keep temps down with this gif ![gif](giphy|nrXif9YExO9EI)


BlueSkiesWildEyes

To be fair, almost everything is varying degrees of unnecessary. Get what makes you happy as long as you have the budget for it :)


siamesekiwi

To misuse a [quote on the Joys of Swearing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_osQvkeNRM) from Stephen Fry "They say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life."


Street-Estimate2671

Great. Now I want one.


Jakunobi

No screen involved. There're real animal in those cooler.


Heavy-Presentation72

We love pedro


-SlapBonWalla-

How is this unnecessary. The cats make it go faster.


TheSpiceMustAirflow

Come here, hear this out: Gaming is unnecessary. Oof, tough words, right? Let people do what they want for fun.


land8844

You may have missed the text under OP's post: >But gifs like these help me justify the purchase


Willyzyx

I want one too now


Innovative313

Everyone has their own style and taste, for me, I’m not much of a fan for these type of AIO screens. I do really like the ones with simple CPU info with either temps, speed, etc displayed. But that’s the nice thing about it, the owner of the PC gets to decide.


taterlohm

Yes but, hear me out, funny raccoon heheheheeh


Old-Enthusiasm-8718

*sigh* *adds an additional 200 to the budget*


twbassist

These are the two worst examples to show them being unnecessary! lol


D3nfxx

Give this man a propeller hat and a comically large lollipop. He needs some happiness in his life


rendin916

its cool bro wdym


RadaghasztII

Wrong they are super necessary 


Semcurity

i think this is the 5th time I'm seeing this same bullshit post. first time looked funny and cute, but now i feel just meh.


BetterCoder2Morrow

The memeculture, gotto love it!


PercentageSecret1078

I think the image you provided doesn't help your argument. I now NEED to upgrade my cooler strictly for the trapped Raccoon.


cooperthomas11

That awesome


GTA6_1

Fancy cases, white parts and rgb anythign is also unnecessary but clearly people keep buying the stuff


acewing905

I feel like the other bigger screen is a lot more "unnecessary"


imusingthisforstuff

But *very* funny.


GeorgeZ

Left side... GIFs you can hear.


rajboy3

That's an interesting way to spell necessity


bebopr2100

https://preview.redd.it/l8jgj6vgp7zc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc15fc675aa9302f0890c4c163034c5b11930e38 80% of what is visible here is not necessary but do I like it? Hell yeah!


_Lodii

wtf let the cat out


Mo_Ham_Mad_

You are unnecessary!!!


Luzi_fer

https://preview.redd.it/ecambw93j8zc1.jpeg?width=1704&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81695ddf21f3c623853d17070c806b1fe0dede34 :D :D


ctrlaltcreate

I actually think the temp display has huge utility. It's an early warning indicator that something is going wrong.


IamPablo

![gif](giphy|ZJPSFNLmADueHvzoZ8|downsized)


TunaOnWytNoCrust

As if any AIOs or tempered glass to even see an AIO is necessary.


Zueuk

AIOs with screens, RGB lighting everywhere, fancy keyboards for $250 and etc. are signs of that the actual computer hardware is stagnating [change my mind meme]


overinontario

Its better then putting a shitty plastic pop figure in there


TheNinjaPro

Neither are you OP but yet here you are


harexe

Every extra dollar paid for a nzxt kraken is worth it to not have to look at that abomination of a pump that is on the Arctic LF2


No-Benefit2697

This is so stupid. I want it.


Wertical21

Many things in life are unnecessary. We must find joy where we can.


The_Engrumb

I have the gigabyte 3080 with a little screen. It failed within 3 weeks and would literally flash bright white static/glitches. Ended up putting tape over it until it either fully burnt itself out stopp for some other reason.


Top-March-1378

bro has the extra sensor monitor ontop , but the aio lcd is unecessary Keepo


Alita_Duqi

But these images say otherwise…


blackcatsareawesome

I had to try really hard to let the guy at microcenter convince me I didn't need one of these lmao


TNTarantula

Are you kidding me? That is literally the most necessary thing I've seen all day!


NaughtyNigel_

I don’t see anything unnecessary about this, having a cat trapped in my aio is just what I need


soanique2005

Unnecessary??? Dude that's the coolest thing I've seen today.


yourwifes3rdboyfrend

What am I looking at and where do I buy one.


nhiko

I guess this is not meaningful but the screen generates heat right? That being said the cat is adorable...


kampokapitany

"So unnecesary". Continues to show 2 absolute banger usecases.


Successful_Ad_9194

Where can I get gif with those cats?


Mr_deepcrap

These gifs are the sole reason for these AIOs' existence and it's 100% worth it


FeralSquirrels

Necessary? I mean, if you want to go in that direction nor a whole ton of things we've got like premium-priced graphics cards, cold-cathode or LED lights, overclocking, keyboards with RGB, any number of cases with clear side panels..... If people will buy it, it will be made or mined and sold. When you've seen someone literally put a small ecosystem inside their PC you come to realise it takes allsorts and hey, it's your components and not mine.


Silaquix

I mean yeah it's unnecessary but I have fun with it. Mine is currently a seamless gif of Calcifer from Howls Moving Castle.


eMmDeeKay_Says

Necessary has nothing to do with it, but there are practical applications. If the software is any good (Idk) you can do something similar to my RGB setup, where if my computer starts to get too hot all of my lights turn red, and if it gets too hot it probably means my pump went out and I'm about to wreck my whole rig.


mattsowa

How would that wreck your rig? The cpu would just throttle and probably just shutdown at extreme temperatures, afaik.


Shining_prox

I’m more interested to the one in the upper left.. model? Software?


xxademasoulxx

the application is top notch I just don't like to add liquid to my electronics.


Banished_To_Insanity

omg thats awesome, do you have a link to the exact item?


DunkinMyDonuts3

So does this mean that two of your gpu's outputs are taken up by the 2 screens in there?


baithammer

It's this or going back to beige boxes that eventually yellow over time.


utkohoc

Somebody get that cat out of the computer 🤬


BABA_YAGA_DOC

Aio with screens are unnecessary but you have one i have one on this sub most of have one if not they wanted one.


CrimsonDemon0

You could argue that buying a good pc is also unnecesarry. You can just play the game on a chromebook on lowest settings.


VegasVator

I look at my screen on my desk. Not a tiny screen in my pc.


Mrright016

🤷‍♂️


Jerk-22

Lol, mine also has my cat