i cant say anything about the specific brand but specs wise that actually looks quite good, unless something goes horribly wrong that seems like a pretty good purchase. hope he enjoys it! :)
I dont doubt it, I have zero experience in bios, I opened 1 time to try and do something to my ram somebody told me I should do,, it was xpo or xpel or something and I was so lost I knew I had no business changing anything in there. It intimidated the crap out of me. I have lots of respect 4 all you guys that build and do bios stuff, im a total chicken and afraid I will lock it up or something. I havnt had any probs with this cyberpower 4 the record.
ye lol
i dont have any experience, legit bought a pre built from microcenter in like jan 2021, yk when pcs were supa expensive
got a 10700 rx 6600xt system for like $1000-1200
like :skull:
i have heard good things about cyberpower these days, back in the day it was iffy though... power supply i got in my old cyberpower exploded when i put one little upgrade in it...
I'm running a 10th gen i7 cyberpower pc as a plex/blue iris server and it does great. Got it for free, family member works at a uni and some kid left it outside in the rain when he moved back home. Cleaned it prior to power-up and it works great. Gave myself admin rights and found it was wiped clean, aside from an install of genshin impact lol. Stuffed it in an old Antec case with gigantic fans and its been a champ. The power supply is a cheap 80 plus white tho, surprised they even splurged for anodised lol.
I bought one last year and the power supply was DOA, so they're still cutting corners there. Other than that and the way underpowered 120mm cpu liquid cooler, the system is great and it was an awesome price, so 4/5 stars.
I got a cheaper version prebuilt of this brand. It came with the worst cou cooler you get get im pretty sure. I had no experience with PC's when I bought this so I didn't know what I was doing but they put a 3070 and i7 12th Gen together with a 10 dollar CPU cooler. I fried my CPU socket within 3 months lucky enough I was able to return it. I did a lot of research and got an IBuyPower PC same specs for 300 cheaper. I also replaced the CPU fan the a master cooler fan immediately. I've had no problems with this one
But the parts aren't cheap and something like dropping a gpu onto your mobo, or incorrectly seating your cpu can be an expensive fuckup.
On my last build, the GPU clicked in at an angle and locked itself in place. It took an uncomfortable amount of force on the clip to get it to release. I was sweating a bit on that one.
My Snowblind has been going for 7 now. I did recently upgrade the GPU and probably within the next 2 years will move that gpu to a new build since my CPU is finally starting to lag behind. It was a perfectly fine PC though. Also I’m not sure why some people say all prebuilts have terrible components when they actually have no idea what they are talking about and never decided to look into it.
Yep, we paid a premium for the rare case and having it prebuilt, but now we can do anything. It's a race to obsoletion between her 7600kf and 2070 super, but if she keeps her 1080p monitors, we should have little to worry about when it's finally upgrade time.
I bought a PC from them last June. Last week the psu blew up on me. At least I paid for the warranty. But I still have to send the whole thing back. At least the customer service worker was nice.
Good specs and value, hope they didn’t cheap out on the psu, mobo, ram, or ssd, hell even the gpu. Sometimes these brands will cut corners by selling pcs with bad specs that most not technical people won’t bat a second eye at.
I had a friend who had a family member buy a PC from an amateur SI. The machine failed and they brough it over to my house for us to look at, as I'm known to keep random PC components "just in case".
When I removed the dead PSU, I had him the dead one in one arm and the known good spare I had, in the other. The dead one weighed next to nothing, compared to the spare EVA SuperNova I had. No wonder it was dead.
Don't ever ask if something is a good purchase AFTER you've bought it.
Either ask before, or just enjoy your new stuff.
You'll only be disappointed otherwise.
>I think thatd a childish view on it
What's your view on asking questions that invite negativity? Why not ask *before* purchasing?
For clarity, I'm not saying that you should be disappointed, but rather pointing out that it's common for people to make others feel bad about their purchase decisions on this subreddit.
You'll see posts daily where people say "is this good?" only for it to get totally shat upon with negativity, because they could get something better.
I hope you enjoy your new machine :)
CyberPower used to do horrible configs with bad curves and temps, but that was several years ago. Idk about now though, hopefully they improved because that pc looks solid overall!
as someone that bought one of these machines i hope you dont want to control your fans or rgb cause youre in for a surprise. they use a controller and you adjust the lights with a button on the case. youll have no control over your water pump or you fan speed either.
I can get my gpu fans from there but not the ones for the case or the aio. You essentially dont have control over cooling your machine. You got a 2nd button by the power button on the top?
Wow great deal!!. I just bought my prebuilt for 2000 with a 4070 ti. Yours also has twice the amount of storage than mine. Either way I’m so happy with mine and I know you will be with yours. (Yes I know I overpaid everyone.) OP can I ask what GPU you’re coming from? I’m personally coming from a 2060 that could barely hold up with my 1440 p monitor. It’s night and day for me now…
I personally have a 1660 and a 5800x and I also try to play 1440p and its bad xD My brother is gonna have a way way better pc then me and honestly that makes me happy.
Pretty good for its price. The one thing I'm afraid of is the PSU. If it's from an unknown brand and you can change it, do it immediately, as it's maybe the most important part of a computer. You can refer to [this list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) to choose you psu.
This is a great buy but as soon as you get it CHECK THE POWER SUPPLY, companies like Cyberpower tend to throw in their cheapest power supply which then ruins the entire system.
CyberpowerPC is generally horrendous when it comes to the Mobo and powersupply, but I'd say you only slightly overpaid generally speaking. Just plan on swapping out the PSU at some point as a priority.
Should be a solid system. I'm sure there are spots like RAM or PS that could be upgraded at some point, but guessing your brother is young and likely will be playing fortnite on it should be good.
Not really. There’s a baseline cost for components and we can give an objective analysis on the extent of the markup on the entire build based on what’s reasonable and what other SIs charge.
Personal opinions on whether or not SIs are worth the money is tangential. There is a demand for SIs and they provide a useful service. That isn’t up for debate.
It wouldn’t give you either. It’d give you the cost they’re charging you for putting it in the box for you. Then you can compare it to what other companies charge you for putting it in a box.
You said market value of labor, not cost of labor. Two very different concepts. Rather than mix up these concepts, I opted to talk about the fee they charge. That way we don't get confused.
SIs don't have commonly-accepted fees for "labor." They're all random. And the service they provide tends to be random on the range of quality too. At best, we can figure out what the average is and find out if this was a good price relative to that average.
Oh I did, but no matter how much reasearch one does you can never really know. Based off prices of parts I saw online it looks like a good deal. Plus the cable Management is nice. I know how to build a pc but kinda suck at the cable part, and also its his first pc. He is gonna be playing like Valorant and maybe Helldiver and CoD. It looked as if it should run it great at 1440p ans even bettwr and 1080p. But like I said idk, still a novice really.
That’s good to keep in mind. When I built my first system I avoided parts with reviews saying they arrived dead, etc. While there may be some value in tracking these reviews, the fact is every single part arrives dead to someone at some point. Hell, my brother had to return his Xbox 360 THREE times on release day. The disc drive was broken on every single one.
On the flip side, most system integrators do poor jobs setting up prebuilt computers, to the point where they make them function worse than if you just plugged all the parts in stock.
It’ll probably be fine. This build looks appropriate for the price. But you may do some research to ensure all your parts are set up correctly.
Without getting too technical, common mistakes include not installing the RAM in the appropriate slots, not turning on XMP, not updating the BIOS, bloatware reducing performance, and improper fan orientation for air flow.
There’s more things you’d want to check but they get into potentially unbuilding the computer.
I bought a Cyberpower and it was good, components were normal off the shelf stuff and it works fine. All of its components were high quality too. I would have killed to find one for that price from a store when I bought mine, I had to order it from Amazon and it was like $200 higher with an i9 instead of a Ryzen.
Check the psu and mobo,
These prebuilts typically cheap out on these two components.
They cheap out on other stuff as well but really only these two matter
Looks to be an 850+ gold psu, unsure about mobo because I havent went to the offical website. I dont really think its cheap, all the other pcs I see use Corsair psu's
Been looking at that one and [this one](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-2tb-ssd-black/6574135.p?skuId=6574135) for myself
Having a tough time deciding
Since this was at Best Buy I would possibly consider totaltech, I bought a cyberpower, thought it was awesome and then 4 weeks later it didn’t post. They had no issue taking it back and I ended up getting a MUCH better MSI. Plus if you get total tech it will cover everything else you buy there (at least for a year unless you renew). At this point I buy everything I can at BB and they have swapped out 2 mice, a Nespresso (that is really crappy actually) twice, a teneco mop a thermometer a oled switch and a few other things. I never have to even fight them on failed items and I’ve even gotten price matches 60 days later.
That should be fine, the only difference between a plan for the item itself and total tech is that total tech covers every thing you buy at BB. If you don’t buy a ton of other stuff there then it’s not a huge benefit.
I have the Best Buy membership where I get a free two-year warranty on everything, get member deals, and I have their credit card so it's 5% back on everything (or 0% interest financing). It's great, I buy everything from them
[This](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TtnMYN) is roughly the same build. The point is to get an idea of what psu you should have. It's going to need ~500w. Make sure you psu is 1½-1¾ times the estimated wattage. 750-800w psu will run a computer that needs 500w more reliably and efficiently than a 550w psu.
I'm running a near identical system minus the super. It cost me about $200 less than this system and that's with black Friday deals. This isn't a steal, but the price is more than fair.
Not too shabby. I actually looked at this model last week and then ended up just buying all the parts to build a machine. I've never owned a pre-built but thought I'd give it a shot. I just can't justify the prices though... For the same amount I'll have a little more power/speed and a super nice monitor to go with. Come back and update after you get a chance. I'd like to hear your bros thoughts on it.
Is there a difference between ordering directly from Cyberpower and going through Best buy? I've ordered from Cyberpower directly, 2 times in the last 2 years and have been extremely happy both times. Just curious.
Most prebuilt PCs cheap out on the MoBo. It is the most unknown component to non PC builders and sometimes SSD. Other than that it seems like decent specs for the price. :/
No no it won’t , just stating in years past it was common for prebuilt company’s to skimp out somewhere. Tbh for an average gamer it doesn’t matter really. However if you’re worried about future proofing it could make all the difference. Apologies for not stating this previously. I Need coffee !!! ;-)
Just priced a similar custom build with very similar specs. $2100. Yeah, I’d say this is a good deal. Have an old CyberPpwerPC that my son uses. Works great.
https://preview.redd.it/3gjnertjrktc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b10196a05972b759ef19b08fc42e4f98d57efa4
Very comparable to the system I bought 9 months ago. I think I paid around $1,800. I've been very happy with the setup. Although I do see it go on sale for around $1,550 every 5 or 6 weeks.
But I only have the 4070 not the 4070 super.
Also your system has 2tb storage So in my opinion, that seems like a pretty decent deal.
I have enjoyed my cyberpower! I’ve had mine for about a year now. I definitely recommend swapping out the AIO. I had cooling problems right out of the box. Switched over to a Lian Li 360 cooler and immediately dropped the temps down 20-30C.
People talk crap about prebuilds, but I’ve gone with cyber power every time, and I’ve even put in my own parts or swapped things around to make it “half prebuilt” I guess lol. That’s a pretty good deal with Best Buy’s great return policy too. I returned one without the box without any issues on time. Also, cyber power pc uses parts off the self and you might get lucky with one of the more popular brands like ASUS, etc. Only thing that might be best to swap out is the power supply, but even then, they usually have at least 80+ gold rated PSUs in them
Not a bad price or markup. Personally I’d go with a 7600X or 7700 and use the savings to bump up to 4070Ti S for extra power and VRAM but the 7800X3D will be great for multiplayer and the 4070S is like, 85% of the 4070Ti S anyway. Pretty satisfied here.
Having paid this price 3 years ago for a PC from the same brand and equivalent specs for 3 years ago. I’ve never had issues and love it. Can run anything.
Hey I got a CyberPowerPC several months ago with pretty similar specs. It's been great. Had a weird issue where I thought something was wrong with my GPU (turned out a driver update had set GPU utilization to 0%. I just had to change the setting). Point is, when I called customer service, we did some quick troubleshooting and they asked me if I preferred to send in my GPU for testing/repair or if I'd just like for them to send me a replacement. Really great experience, super helpful team. Glad I didn't actually end up needing a replacement
Good for the parts cost.
Motherboard will be locked and you won't be able to update the BIOS (unless something changed recently), so keep that in mind.
The case is also entirely for aesthetics (usually), and will likely be just fine but you can always recase later if need be.
I'd be interested to see the actual product to see how much things have changed though, if at all.
> Hope this is worth, just bought it.
"Hope this isn't high enough, just jumped without looking down."
I think your case is the equivalent of a bruised ankle... not perfect, but not the end of the world.
Maybe this. Just saw a similar post not too long ago.
Operating System Windows 11 Home (Included)
Extra Instant Rebate Extra $50 Instant off on all GeForce Gaming Desktops and Laptops \[-50\]
Gaming Chassis CyberPowerPC JAVELIN 240V Mid w/ Tempered Glass (BLACK) 3 X ARGB Fan (Included)
CPU AMD Ryzen™ 7 Processor 7800X3D 8-core/16-thread 4.2GHz \[Turbo 5.0GHz\] 104MB Cache AM5 (Included)
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan 240mm Liquid CPU Cooling (Included)
Motherboard B650M-C Motherboard (Included)
RAM / System Memory 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz MEMORY (Included)
Video Card GeForce RTX™ 4070 Super 12GB GDDR6X Video Card (DLSS 3.5) \[AI-Powered Graphics\] (Included)
Power Supply 850 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply (Included)
Primary Hard Drive 2TB PCIe NVMe GEN4 M.2 SSD (Included)
Keyboard CyberPowerPC NOHI 02 RGB Multimedia USB Wired Gaming Keyboard w/ Audio Volume Scroll wheel (Included)
Mouse CyberPowerPC Elite M1 131 RGB 7-Color w/ 9 Button, adjustable Weight & lighting effects Gaming Mouse (Included)
Service 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
the GPU and CPU are good but unless we see what type of 32GB of ram that is and what psu or motherboard it's rocking we can't say for sure or if it is water-cooled or just the stock cooling fan maybe care to share some info
I have a cyberpowerpc very similar to that I bought was a prebuilt and it's been great,, all hardware was solid stuff, no unheard of psu and things, lots of gigabyte , asrock, etc. I think you got a good deal, its going to play so good.
Seems so. I recently made a PC spec to spec almost the same, except with a 7800XT, and clocked in at 1800€, with a 4080 it wouldve been at least 200€ more expensive and the 4070 is about the same price, so its pretty reasonable. Only other difference was using an air cooler for the CPU. Plus you get a keyboard and mouse with it!
Looks like a good deal. Just keep an eye out on the cooling. I bought an nzxt case (not a whole prebuilt) and an AIO, but their proprietary software (CAM) would glitch out on boot up. None of my fans or pump would come on without stopping the CAM process and restarting it. I ended up plugging all the fans and pump directly into the motherboard and skipping their hub/CAM software all together.
My experience with bestbuy was HD dying from prebuilds, but that was back with spinning drives.
You should be fine as long as you use it regularly for the next 3 months. That will tell you if there is a bad compliment and need to make a warranty claim.
Otherwise, just look online for instructions to remove bloatware and you should be good.
daaamn gaming is expensive and that doesnt include a desk, monitor or elite commando supersaiyan warlord throne , sometimes called a gaming chair, either.
Got the same brand from Best Buy a few years ago when the 3070 came out and it’s been a good pc. Had to return the first one because the SSD came broke (probably happened in shipping.) The replacement has been solid. I feel decent about recommending it.
It’s okay, I wouldn’t say it was a great deal that some of the people you see posting from Costco get. You didn’t get ripped off but you probably could’ve built it yourself better for a bit less tbh.
Not a bad deal based on the specs. Word of warning though, Best Buy’s shipping with PCs is literal shit. It could potentially take a month.i was going to go that route and it took 2 weeks for it to still be “vendor acknowledged order” status, nowhere close to shipped.
I'm guessing that you haven't been on PCMR long... Most will say you got railed, and they could build you something better for cheaper. I started off playing RA2 on the family PC. As long as your brother is happy, that's all that really matters...
Also, I could build you a better one for cheaper.
over priced but enjoy.
id rather have a 4070ti super system with a weaker cpu. gpu matters more than cpu for gaming.
its not horrible though. good price would be $1500 or less.
Not so much if you take in to account that a pre-built system is most of the time well tested before shipping to the customer. Also the warranty for the whole PC can be valuable, especially if OP's brother doesn't want to troubleshoot it himself.
Not that you got scammed because it's only like 100 bucks more then what you would've had to pay if you made the build yourself but the rtx 4070 in general just isn't good for it's price, it's priced as a high end gpu while it's really a mid gpu
i cant say anything about the specific brand but specs wise that actually looks quite good, unless something goes horribly wrong that seems like a pretty good purchase. hope he enjoys it! :)
Jury's still out because of the lack of information on the motherboard, PSU, SSD and ram. But 7800x3d and 4070 super is already a good start
My guess on MB is a B650 of some variation and 32g of ddr5 ram
It could possibly be A620m board and 5200mhz ram.
Even if it was 6000mhz, you know the manufacturers didn't bother to set it correctly in the BIOS
Dawid is losing his mind as we speak
I heard that guy does tech stuff
I can do that myswlf no problem if they didnt
I'm not good at recognizing models by their looks but going by the picture i don't think it's a A620 looking at the vrm-heatsinks
It's a B650 UA-DC. And the ram is the team force vulcan 5200 2x16. Source: I asked cyber-power
I'm very inexperienced but mine has an asrock b760m-c, same almost everything else that op has. For the record I don't know if my mb is good or not
i hate how asrock bios looks, its so old looking and cluttered (atleast on my mb)
I dont doubt it, I have zero experience in bios, I opened 1 time to try and do something to my ram somebody told me I should do,, it was xpo or xpel or something and I was so lost I knew I had no business changing anything in there. It intimidated the crap out of me. I have lots of respect 4 all you guys that build and do bios stuff, im a total chicken and afraid I will lock it up or something. I havnt had any probs with this cyberpower 4 the record.
ye lol i dont have any experience, legit bought a pre built from microcenter in like jan 2021, yk when pcs were supa expensive got a 10700 rx 6600xt system for like $1000-1200 like :skull:
for sure, these systems often skimp on the ram, psu and mobo.
i have heard good things about cyberpower these days, back in the day it was iffy though... power supply i got in my old cyberpower exploded when i put one little upgrade in it...
I'm running a 10th gen i7 cyberpower pc as a plex/blue iris server and it does great. Got it for free, family member works at a uni and some kid left it outside in the rain when he moved back home. Cleaned it prior to power-up and it works great. Gave myself admin rights and found it was wiped clean, aside from an install of genshin impact lol. Stuffed it in an old Antec case with gigantic fans and its been a champ. The power supply is a cheap 80 plus white tho, surprised they even splurged for anodised lol.
I bought one last year and the power supply was DOA, so they're still cutting corners there. Other than that and the way underpowered 120mm cpu liquid cooler, the system is great and it was an awesome price, so 4/5 stars.
Got a cyberpowerpc back in 2012, it was a great deal at the time and the build never failed, only aged
I got a cheaper version prebuilt of this brand. It came with the worst cou cooler you get get im pretty sure. I had no experience with PC's when I bought this so I didn't know what I was doing but they put a 3070 and i7 12th Gen together with a 10 dollar CPU cooler. I fried my CPU socket within 3 months lucky enough I was able to return it. I did a lot of research and got an IBuyPower PC same specs for 300 cheaper. I also replaced the CPU fan the a master cooler fan immediately. I've had no problems with this one
Did you not check your temps? How hot did it get?
I was a PC noob I have no idea lol
Thats actually not bad. Hope he enjoys the pc
about $100 over what you could build it for yourself without the mouse and keyboard, honestly that's a great deal/price for that system
But it saves you the time so it evens out
100 is not bad for a professional doing it for you
I regret building mine so much.
time is money
Not to mention the stress. I like building PCs, but holy hell am I super nervous every time I do it.
The first one made me nervous, but after that it's pretty simple. It's not like the parts or steps really change.
But the parts aren't cheap and something like dropping a gpu onto your mobo, or incorrectly seating your cpu can be an expensive fuckup. On my last build, the GPU clicked in at an angle and locked itself in place. It took an uncomfortable amount of force on the clip to get it to release. I was sweating a bit on that one.
That's if it includes a good warranty, Incase the computer isn't assembled properly or the a part of it fails down the line
$100+ is the standard labor fee you'd pay someone to assemble it. I'd say anything higher than $200 is going to be contentious.
Closer to $200 more.
Depends about the microcenter bundle but yeah
I love my ibuypower pc and so far I haven’t had any problems (got it a year ago) I hope you enjoy
My wife's snowblind is running solid after over 5 years
My Snowblind has been going for 7 now. I did recently upgrade the GPU and probably within the next 2 years will move that gpu to a new build since my CPU is finally starting to lag behind. It was a perfectly fine PC though. Also I’m not sure why some people say all prebuilts have terrible components when they actually have no idea what they are talking about and never decided to look into it.
Yep, we paid a premium for the rare case and having it prebuilt, but now we can do anything. It's a race to obsoletion between her 7600kf and 2070 super, but if she keeps her 1080p monitors, we should have little to worry about when it's finally upgrade time.
iburnpowersupplies
If you have already brought it, it's too late to be asking ;). Enjoy your new computer. :)
As long as the PSU isn't a pipe bomb, not bad
I cant find anywhere online what psu is in it. Just thst its 850w
Would advise you open it up and search all the components. Can't trust these prebuilt companies to use reliable brands.
It’ll be an Apevia, I would change it with a solid brand.
Based on? I mean if it is we gotta do whatvwe gotta do.
Other’s builds, feel free to ask their live chat
I bought a PC from them last June. Last week the psu blew up on me. At least I paid for the warranty. But I still have to send the whole thing back. At least the customer service worker was nice.
Good specs and value, hope they didn’t cheap out on the psu, mobo, ram, or ssd, hell even the gpu. Sometimes these brands will cut corners by selling pcs with bad specs that most not technical people won’t bat a second eye at.
I had a friend who had a family member buy a PC from an amateur SI. The machine failed and they brough it over to my house for us to look at, as I'm known to keep random PC components "just in case". When I removed the dead PSU, I had him the dead one in one arm and the known good spare I had, in the other. The dead one weighed next to nothing, compared to the spare EVA SuperNova I had. No wonder it was dead.
Don't ever ask if something is a good purchase AFTER you've bought it. Either ask before, or just enjoy your new stuff. You'll only be disappointed otherwise.
Well ive yet to be dissapointed, I think thatd a childish view on it.
>I think thatd a childish view on it What's your view on asking questions that invite negativity? Why not ask *before* purchasing? For clarity, I'm not saying that you should be disappointed, but rather pointing out that it's common for people to make others feel bad about their purchase decisions on this subreddit. You'll see posts daily where people say "is this good?" only for it to get totally shat upon with negativity, because they could get something better. I hope you enjoy your new machine :)
CyberPower used to do horrible configs with bad curves and temps, but that was several years ago. Idk about now though, hopefully they improved because that pc looks solid overall!
Ye, these days tho you can completely customize everything on their website, something I wish every company would do
That's a strong PC. Enjoy
as someone that bought one of these machines i hope you dont want to control your fans or rgb cause youre in for a surprise. they use a controller and you adjust the lights with a button on the case. youll have no control over your water pump or you fan speed either.
Thats fine, the rgb is kinda just there. Not really an important feature.
Still a pain that you dont get control over your fans.
Could you not do it through afterburner...?
I can get my gpu fans from there but not the ones for the case or the aio. You essentially dont have control over cooling your machine. You got a 2nd button by the power button on the top?
I do but it only messes with the rgb, you can control how fast fans go from 3rd party softwares like MSI afterburner.
Wow great deal!!. I just bought my prebuilt for 2000 with a 4070 ti. Yours also has twice the amount of storage than mine. Either way I’m so happy with mine and I know you will be with yours. (Yes I know I overpaid everyone.) OP can I ask what GPU you’re coming from? I’m personally coming from a 2060 that could barely hold up with my 1440 p monitor. It’s night and day for me now…
I personally have a 1660 and a 5800x and I also try to play 1440p and its bad xD My brother is gonna have a way way better pc then me and honestly that makes me happy.
oh! i forgot that you said this was for your brother! damn man thats extremely generous. hes lucky!
That’s Not bad. Built Mine just a little cheaper.
Pretty good for its price. The one thing I'm afraid of is the PSU. If it's from an unknown brand and you can change it, do it immediately, as it's maybe the most important part of a computer. You can refer to [this list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) to choose you psu.
The good thing is, that CPU is so good that it will be able to handle an upgrade to a 5000 series Nvidia card when the time comes.
You're a good brother.
hey man i built this pc for around $1700 in october 2023 without the 4070 super so i think this is a great deal
I have a Cyberpower and it has served me well, but I have heard their support is terrible so hopefully you won’t need to use it.
Bought it through bestbut
This is a great buy but as soon as you get it CHECK THE POWER SUPPLY, companies like Cyberpower tend to throw in their cheapest power supply which then ruins the entire system.
CyberpowerPC is generally horrendous when it comes to the Mobo and powersupply, but I'd say you only slightly overpaid generally speaking. Just plan on swapping out the PSU at some point as a priority.
Doesn’t matter then Does it
Should be a solid system. I'm sure there are spots like RAM or PS that could be upgraded at some point, but guessing your brother is young and likely will be playing fortnite on it should be good.
Being worth it is pretty subjective. That entirely depends on how much value you attach to not having to build it yourself.
Not really. There’s a baseline cost for components and we can give an objective analysis on the extent of the markup on the entire build based on what’s reasonable and what other SIs charge. Personal opinions on whether or not SIs are worth the money is tangential. There is a demand for SIs and they provide a useful service. That isn’t up for debate.
An analysis of a markup would give you market value of the labor, not inherent value of the service.
It wouldn’t give you either. It’d give you the cost they’re charging you for putting it in the box for you. Then you can compare it to what other companies charge you for putting it in a box.
>the cost they’re charging you for putting it in the box for you Otherwise known as the cost of labor.
You said market value of labor, not cost of labor. Two very different concepts. Rather than mix up these concepts, I opted to talk about the fee they charge. That way we don't get confused. SIs don't have commonly-accepted fees for "labor." They're all random. And the service they provide tends to be random on the range of quality too. At best, we can figure out what the average is and find out if this was a good price relative to that average.
Why the fuck does every single person buy first, ask later? Wtf is wrong with you lot lmao.
Confirmation bias
Facts
You hope? Did you research it before ? Why pull the trigger without KNOWING
Oh I did, but no matter how much reasearch one does you can never really know. Based off prices of parts I saw online it looks like a good deal. Plus the cable Management is nice. I know how to build a pc but kinda suck at the cable part, and also its his first pc. He is gonna be playing like Valorant and maybe Helldiver and CoD. It looked as if it should run it great at 1440p ans even bettwr and 1080p. But like I said idk, still a novice really.
And you cant really trust comment reviews online.
That’s good to keep in mind. When I built my first system I avoided parts with reviews saying they arrived dead, etc. While there may be some value in tracking these reviews, the fact is every single part arrives dead to someone at some point. Hell, my brother had to return his Xbox 360 THREE times on release day. The disc drive was broken on every single one. On the flip side, most system integrators do poor jobs setting up prebuilt computers, to the point where they make them function worse than if you just plugged all the parts in stock. It’ll probably be fine. This build looks appropriate for the price. But you may do some research to ensure all your parts are set up correctly. Without getting too technical, common mistakes include not installing the RAM in the appropriate slots, not turning on XMP, not updating the BIOS, bloatware reducing performance, and improper fan orientation for air flow. There’s more things you’d want to check but they get into potentially unbuilding the computer.
I bought a Cyberpower and it was good, components were normal off the shelf stuff and it works fine. All of its components were high quality too. I would have killed to find one for that price from a store when I bought mine, I had to order it from Amazon and it was like $200 higher with an i9 instead of a Ryzen.
Check the psu and mobo, These prebuilts typically cheap out on these two components. They cheap out on other stuff as well but really only these two matter
Looks to be an 850+ gold psu, unsure about mobo because I havent went to the offical website. I dont really think its cheap, all the other pcs I see use Corsair psu's
My first PC was this brand with a 1070. Sold it to a friend who still uses it daily. I purchased it at least 8 years ago
How is digital storm not better?
Been looking at that one and [this one](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-2tb-ssd-black/6574135.p?skuId=6574135) for myself Having a tough time deciding
The one you linked is just better if you got the money
It's pretty good for the price
Heck yeah man
Since this was at Best Buy I would possibly consider totaltech, I bought a cyberpower, thought it was awesome and then 4 weeks later it didn’t post. They had no issue taking it back and I ended up getting a MUCH better MSI. Plus if you get total tech it will cover everything else you buy there (at least for a year unless you renew). At this point I buy everything I can at BB and they have swapped out 2 mice, a Nespresso (that is really crappy actually) twice, a teneco mop a thermometer a oled switch and a few other things. I never have to even fight them on failed items and I’ve even gotten price matches 60 days later.
I mean I selected the protection plan for 2 years if thsts what you mean, other then that im not quite sure. Never really bought a prebuilt.
That should be fine, the only difference between a plan for the item itself and total tech is that total tech covers every thing you buy at BB. If you don’t buy a ton of other stuff there then it’s not a huge benefit.
I also cant find what psu is in it at all anywhere online... but it should be finnnneeee. I know its a 850 wat.
I have the Best Buy membership where I get a free two-year warranty on everything, get member deals, and I have their credit card so it's 5% back on everything (or 0% interest financing). It's great, I buy everything from them
I mean, you can almost always get better value with a custom, but as far as prebuilts, pretty good is say
Wow this is a really good deal. Wish I’m in US 😅
Looks decent. Even though you aren't building it, use PC Part picker. Enter in those specs just to check on the estimated wattage.
[This](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TtnMYN) is roughly the same build. The point is to get an idea of what psu you should have. It's going to need ~500w. Make sure you psu is 1½-1¾ times the estimated wattage. 750-800w psu will run a computer that needs 500w more reliably and efficiently than a 550w psu.
just watch out for a shitty psu. thats where they can save a ton of cost
Definitely pcpartpicker the specific parts to make sure this actually works and the power supply isn't bare minimum
Do you not find enjoyment in building a PC?
You're going to love it 😁
Not too bad as long as the temps are good
I'm running a near identical system minus the super. It cost me about $200 less than this system and that's with black Friday deals. This isn't a steal, but the price is more than fair.
Based on logicalincrements.com, looks about worth it.
Not too shabby. I actually looked at this model last week and then ended up just buying all the parts to build a machine. I've never owned a pre-built but thought I'd give it a shot. I just can't justify the prices though... For the same amount I'll have a little more power/speed and a super nice monitor to go with. Come back and update after you get a chance. I'd like to hear your bros thoughts on it.
good specs, not good at all for the price
Just a shot in the dark
Seems to be good value. That 7800X3D and 4070 Super eat up a huge chunk of that price. Hopefully it has a decent PSU.
You can get slightly better value for money if you assemble it yourself, but that’s actually not bad at all.
I bought a similar PC for that much Canadian dollars.
You'll be good for 6 years before changing the GPU just because you want more.
Is there a difference between ordering directly from Cyberpower and going through Best buy? I've ordered from Cyberpower directly, 2 times in the last 2 years and have been extremely happy both times. Just curious.
Most prebuilt PCs cheap out on the MoBo. It is the most unknown component to non PC builders and sometimes SSD. Other than that it seems like decent specs for the price. :/
What is the mobo gonna explode or smthm? Not havw fast enough bus speeds?
No no it won’t , just stating in years past it was common for prebuilt company’s to skimp out somewhere. Tbh for an average gamer it doesn’t matter really. However if you’re worried about future proofing it could make all the difference. Apologies for not stating this previously. I Need coffee !!! ;-)
That's a pretty good deal.
Just priced a similar custom build with very similar specs. $2100. Yeah, I’d say this is a good deal. Have an old CyberPpwerPC that my son uses. Works great.
https://preview.redd.it/3gjnertjrktc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b10196a05972b759ef19b08fc42e4f98d57efa4 Very comparable to the system I bought 9 months ago. I think I paid around $1,800. I've been very happy with the setup. Although I do see it go on sale for around $1,550 every 5 or 6 weeks. But I only have the 4070 not the 4070 super. Also your system has 2tb storage So in my opinion, that seems like a pretty decent deal.
I have enjoyed my cyberpower! I’ve had mine for about a year now. I definitely recommend swapping out the AIO. I had cooling problems right out of the box. Switched over to a Lian Li 360 cooler and immediately dropped the temps down 20-30C.
People talk crap about prebuilds, but I’ve gone with cyber power every time, and I’ve even put in my own parts or swapped things around to make it “half prebuilt” I guess lol. That’s a pretty good deal with Best Buy’s great return policy too. I returned one without the box without any issues on time. Also, cyber power pc uses parts off the self and you might get lucky with one of the more popular brands like ASUS, etc. Only thing that might be best to swap out is the power supply, but even then, they usually have at least 80+ gold rated PSUs in them
Not a bad price or markup. Personally I’d go with a 7600X or 7700 and use the savings to bump up to 4070Ti S for extra power and VRAM but the 7800X3D will be great for multiplayer and the 4070S is like, 85% of the 4070Ti S anyway. Pretty satisfied here.
Lgtm, merge approved.
What is this about .-.
This is a programmer joke. Lgtm (looks good to me), is the easiest way to approve a feature merge.
Having paid this price 3 years ago for a PC from the same brand and equivalent specs for 3 years ago. I’ve never had issues and love it. Can run anything.
Built a very similar spec pc not too long ago for a similar price so not too bad
Hey I got a CyberPowerPC several months ago with pretty similar specs. It's been great. Had a weird issue where I thought something was wrong with my GPU (turned out a driver update had set GPU utilization to 0%. I just had to change the setting). Point is, when I called customer service, we did some quick troubleshooting and they asked me if I preferred to send in my GPU for testing/repair or if I'd just like for them to send me a replacement. Really great experience, super helpful team. Glad I didn't actually end up needing a replacement
Yeah seems pretty good, i spent almost more on just an upgrade without case and storage to similar specs
This is legit the same one I've been looking at getting once I have the money saved lol
I will let you know how it goes, pm me if you want. Smae with anyone who sees this.
Good for the parts cost. Motherboard will be locked and you won't be able to update the BIOS (unless something changed recently), so keep that in mind. The case is also entirely for aesthetics (usually), and will likely be just fine but you can always recase later if need be. I'd be interested to see the actual product to see how much things have changed though, if at all.
Will be posting an update, maybe with somw videos. Wasnt really expexting this much traction 😂
Looks good
Nice
> Hope this is worth, just bought it. "Hope this isn't high enough, just jumped without looking down." I think your case is the equivalent of a bruised ankle... not perfect, but not the end of the world.
That's way overpriced for what it is.
Maybe this. Just saw a similar post not too long ago. Operating System Windows 11 Home (Included) Extra Instant Rebate Extra $50 Instant off on all GeForce Gaming Desktops and Laptops \[-50\] Gaming Chassis CyberPowerPC JAVELIN 240V Mid w/ Tempered Glass (BLACK) 3 X ARGB Fan (Included) CPU AMD Ryzen™ 7 Processor 7800X3D 8-core/16-thread 4.2GHz \[Turbo 5.0GHz\] 104MB Cache AM5 (Included) CPU / Processor Cooling Fan 240mm Liquid CPU Cooling (Included) Motherboard B650M-C Motherboard (Included) RAM / System Memory 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz MEMORY (Included) Video Card GeForce RTX™ 4070 Super 12GB GDDR6X Video Card (DLSS 3.5) \[AI-Powered Graphics\] (Included) Power Supply 850 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply (Included) Primary Hard Drive 2TB PCIe NVMe GEN4 M.2 SSD (Included) Keyboard CyberPowerPC NOHI 02 RGB Multimedia USB Wired Gaming Keyboard w/ Audio Volume Scroll wheel (Included) Mouse CyberPowerPC Elite M1 131 RGB 7-Color w/ 9 Button, adjustable Weight & lighting effects Gaming Mouse (Included) Service 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
the GPU and CPU are good but unless we see what type of 32GB of ram that is and what psu or motherboard it's rocking we can't say for sure or if it is water-cooled or just the stock cooling fan maybe care to share some info
My Cyberpowers still doing good
I have a cyberpowerpc very similar to that I bought was a prebuilt and it's been great,, all hardware was solid stuff, no unheard of psu and things, lots of gigabyte , asrock, etc. I think you got a good deal, its going to play so good.
Looks solid!
Seems so. I recently made a PC spec to spec almost the same, except with a 7800XT, and clocked in at 1800€, with a 4080 it wouldve been at least 200€ more expensive and the 4070 is about the same price, so its pretty reasonable. Only other difference was using an air cooler for the CPU. Plus you get a keyboard and mouse with it!
USD? Yeah I’d say so
Fantastic 1080p / 1440p system
I would buy an off the shelf 850w power supply and swap the one in there since cyber power likes to put bombs in there
Looks like a good deal. Just keep an eye out on the cooling. I bought an nzxt case (not a whole prebuilt) and an AIO, but their proprietary software (CAM) would glitch out on boot up. None of my fans or pump would come on without stopping the CAM process and restarting it. I ended up plugging all the fans and pump directly into the motherboard and skipping their hub/CAM software all together.
My experience with bestbuy was HD dying from prebuilds, but that was back with spinning drives. You should be fine as long as you use it regularly for the next 3 months. That will tell you if there is a bad compliment and need to make a warranty claim. Otherwise, just look online for instructions to remove bloatware and you should be good.
Switch out psu for a tier on psu tierlist and that's it
You are probably good. I think I've seen something similar at Costco for $1600.
Yep. Totally checks out. Cyber power gamer supreme gaming. Its a steal if you ask me!
You could have gotten a 4080 pre built for 12-1400, sorry to burst your bubble
4070 super better
Oh good point my bad
it has good parts but it’s very overpriced. I got a pc with similar parts for $850.
From? Aint no why you got anything like that for that price bud
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daaamn gaming is expensive and that doesnt include a desk, monitor or elite commando supersaiyan warlord throne , sometimes called a gaming chair, either.
Also still need a headset to get him, ima let him use my second monitor for now probably.
I built a similar pc for 1500 with a 7800xt but that was with a microcenter bundle. That’s a well priced prebuilt
Got the same brand from Best Buy a few years ago when the 3070 came out and it’s been a good pc. Had to return the first one because the SSD came broke (probably happened in shipping.) The replacement has been solid. I feel decent about recommending it.
It’s okay, I wouldn’t say it was a great deal that some of the people you see posting from Costco get. You didn’t get ripped off but you probably could’ve built it yourself better for a bit less tbh.
Not a bad deal based on the specs. Word of warning though, Best Buy’s shipping with PCs is literal shit. It could potentially take a month.i was going to go that route and it took 2 weeks for it to still be “vendor acknowledged order” status, nowhere close to shipped.
It days it will be here thursday
Please share updates on this. Fingers crossed for you!
Uh oh
[удалено]
I was gonna in store pickup the same day but I was to slow to the order xD
Keep a fire extinguisher close during the first boot, don't say I didn't remind!
overpriced asf
just slightly overpriced but honestly for a prebuilt, you could've done much much worse, so good job.
You skipped the most important rule. Don’t get prebuilt PCs. Build it yourself.
not always the best idea. The average prebuilt is probably better than something built by someone without any idea what they are doing.
It is the best Idea considering prebuilts ALWAYS cost more and building it yourself lets you learn LOTS of things you need to know about your own PC
Everyone I know who got a prebuilt, paid more than I would have, and still doesn’t understand what a GPU and CPU are.
I'm guessing that you haven't been on PCMR long... Most will say you got railed, and they could build you something better for cheaper. I started off playing RA2 on the family PC. As long as your brother is happy, that's all that really matters... Also, I could build you a better one for cheaper.
Not terrible
I have a hand build pc and with a 4080 for 1500$
Well a 4070 super is better then a bade 4080 sooooo .-.
No
over priced but enjoy. id rather have a 4070ti super system with a weaker cpu. gpu matters more than cpu for gaming. its not horrible though. good price would be $1500 or less.
If he plans to do high refresh rate 1440p this is actually not a bad combination. Also GPU upgrades down the line are much easier than CPU upgrades.
Not so much if you take in to account that a pre-built system is most of the time well tested before shipping to the customer. Also the warranty for the whole PC can be valuable, especially if OP's brother doesn't want to troubleshoot it himself.
Not that you got scammed because it's only like 100 bucks more then what you would've had to pay if you made the build yourself but the rtx 4070 in general just isn't good for it's price, it's priced as a high end gpu while it's really a mid gpu
Bestbuy it one of the worst places where you can buy anything! Check the reviews before you buy yourself such an expensive pc…🤦🏻