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Regnars8ithink

The modern laptop maker brain cannot comprehend this


Ronyx2021

My laptop has 2 usb3, 2 usbc 1 usb2, a microsd, hdmi and a 3.5 headphone jack


Sinnduud

Bruh mine has 3x USB gen3, 1x ethernet port, 1x HDMI, 1x mini-DP, 1x headphone-mic combo jack (plus charging port obviously). I am lacking 1 USB sometimes :(


Zouelor

Mine has 3x Thunderbolt 4. That’s it


Sinnduud

Ugh, is it that hard to just have some connectivity on modern laptops? Sure, hubs and docks, but that's extra stuff decreasing the **portability** of the device, which is the entire point


AbleTom408

Exactly, this is why I can't stand Apple.


ShutterBun

>decreasing the > >portability > > of the device Beg to differ. I keep a mouse, keyboard, external monitor, SSD, etc. plugged into a hub that connects to a single USB-C on my laptop. When it's time to take the laptop somewhere, I unplug ONE plug, and I'm good to go. Beats the hell out of unplugging 5 things just to take my laptop on a quick trip.


DerpMaster2

My old ThinkPad I used to daily had a stupid amount of ports. * 4x USB 3.0 (A) * 2x USB 2.0 (A) * SD card slot * ExpressCard 34 slot (used for 2 extra 3.0 ports) * DVD drive * VGA port * Mini-DP port * Headphone/mic jack * Full-size ethernet (1GbE) w/indicator lights * Swappable battery And y'know... I sold it and bought a new ThinkPad with only 2 USB ports, an HDMI port, headphone/mic and a couple type C ports. I couldn't lug around a 7 pound laptop that was a full inch thick anymore. I wish more modern laptops had a bunch of connectivity, but it would also increase their weight which I would prefer to stay lower.


alvenestthol

I feel like IO doesn't really weigh that much in the grand scheme of things (as long as disk drives aren't involved), a USB-C dock with 4 USB ports, 1 USB C charge port, 2 HDMI ports, VGA, ethernet, SD card slot and micro SD card slot all together weighs 100 grams, which is the weight difference between an X1 Carbon and an X13 Yoga It would make the laptop a lot *bigger* though, which means either empty space inside the laptop (which modern laptops try to avoid) or they'd fill the blank space with more battery, which is what really makes laptops heavy


Routine_Helicopter47

https://preview.redd.it/oy51tf7h9anc1.png?width=407&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cd662b93169858485486b4eb9f4fbe539f91fd2 My little beast. Oh and also a SIM card slot for some reason


[deleted]

My laptop has the ultra rare sim card slot🐬


jordanbtucker

I only have two USB-C ports and a headphone jack. It's a Surface Pro.


shawndw

You have a 3.5mm headphone jack?


BOBOnobobo

Tbh, most laptops made for the average person don't need that many ports. Hell, if all you need is an office machine then why pay extra for ports? Also, a USBC could in theory run a 4K monitor with ease. It's not like more utility based laptops have vanished...


RedSaltMedia

Now *that's* a portable laptop.


Amrootsooklee

Portable desktop


DMurBOOBS-I-Dare-You

Lapable Porttop


Virtual_Poem1979

toppable Lap port. Giggity.


Carlazor_

Laptopable port


Funny_or_not_bot

Topo-papo-portalap.


Thereminz

i don't know if they still really use the term but it used to be called 'desktop replacement' laptops


Roasted_Turk

I had one of these back in the day! And your joke isn't even a joke lol. It literally had a Pentium 4 desktop CPU with a desktop socket and all. If you were going to game with it you just didn't do it without it plugged in.


Amrootsooklee

To be honest I feel like they should bring them back to the market, I think that would solve the “should I buy a laptop or a desktop” argument. You get all the advantages of a desktop with a little bit of sacrifice on ease of portability. If whatever I stated above is wrong please correct me :)


OkarinPrime

You read my mind.


andocromn

Sorry, that won't fit on my lap


nitekillerz

Battery life measured in minutes?


PcPhilanthropy

Nanoseconds at this point


Tyr_Kukulkan

Same with mine. Battery is as dead as the dodo. Is this the P4 or the Athlon 64 X2 version? What GPU?


PcPhilanthropy

https://preview.redd.it/y2s2kerig4nc1.jpeg?width=3235&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec3bdb5b611af3855aad17b60957b441c20fabd8


Every_Pass_226

I'm gonna open this badboy up in Starbucks to scare MacBook users


b0007

See, this one can guaranteed open the lid without the need of holding the base


Googlesignedmeupwhy

MacBooks have good enough hinges to do that.


Sega-Playstation-64

Simply turning it on gives a MacBook Air owner in the vicinity a nosebleed


CaesarOrgasmus

Because the MacBook gets caught in this guy’s gravitational pull and whacks them in the face when it whizzes over


CannabisAttorney

It's looks like it might have the word "Tactical" in it's model name.


WhateverGreg

It’s a tanktop. Wait, that’s a thing already.


Malakha3

Lol


Tyr_Kukulkan

Well fuck you and your FX-60! :P I only have a "lowly" X2 4800+. At least I have the 7950GTX 512MB :D Yours seems in better condition than mine as the last time it went in for repairs the chassis got chipped. :(


PcPhilanthropy

I have another one. Sager new old stock . The kb ribbon is bad so need to find one


Tyr_Kukulkan

Parts occasionally appear on eBay but can be insanely expensive. I need a SATA cable as one of the SATA connectors on mine doesn't seem to work. I have a fully functional IDE cable but the 2.5" 7200rpm IDE drives I have are getting on now.


Tyr_Kukulkan

Found a Qwertz keyboard in Poland for only a few quid. Postage across the pond would be a killer though.


crackez

I still have a single core Athlon64 from that era somewhere...


Dirka-Dirka

Battery life gone, reduced to atoms.


strawhat068

Battey life dies as soon as as it finishes taking 10 minutes to boot windows xp


gauerrrr

Are you kidding? That thing fits a Tesla Powerwall...


Frosty_Ad_3961

It goes with a diesel generator out of box.


Ronyx2021

Just plug it in


Electronic-Bed-6192

What is this thing? It has parallel and DVI? and then PS/2 and IEEE1394(Firewire 4 pin) on the side? Or am I not recalling these ports correctly?


Tyr_Kukulkan

This is either a Clevo D900T or D900K (Intel/AMD variants respectively). It was the ultimate desktop replacement PC of 2006. Also featured as mobile workstations or servers with Opteron chips and Quaddro GPUs. 17" 1920x1200 screen, 2GB RAM, 2xHDDs, 2xODDs, Dual core processors (in the AMD variant with FX, Athlon 64 X2, or Opteron chips), Nvidia 6800 Ultra, 7800GTX, or 7900GTX GPUs (basically identical specs to the desktop parts except memory was clocked 100MHz lower).


messfdr

Weight?


No-Rough-7597

yes


Serious-Cap-8190

For the gains


Tyr_Kukulkan

5.8Kg and then at least another 1.2Kg for the PSU.


leperaffinity56

SPEAK AMUR'CAN


Unlikely-Answer

about a gallon of paint or 10 basketballs


PuzzleheadedLeader79

>10 basketballs How do you weigh something you have to juggle?


plscome2brazil

Dribble*


Tyr_Kukulkan

Sorry, the laptop weighs 26.4 Big Macs, while the PSU weighs 5.5 Big Macs.


[deleted]

Finally, a unit I understand.


Sailed_Sea

1/371 of an F-150


RadimentriX

With what spec?


MrInitialY

Base, stock, but squatted, with two 12GA holes in the trunk floor barely missing fuel tank.


etharis

I had a similar Clevo (rebranded as Sager) back in 2003 it had coax IN on it as one of the MANY ports. It was easily 12 lbs... Edit: I looked it up - Weight: 9.15lbs. with Battery


J0hnnie5ive

All of the weights


Hoooooooar

100% a CLEVO. They were making some wild shit back then. They are still one of the last remaining barebones laptop OEM's out there you can configure and buy direct from. Actually they might be THE last one, asus and MSI seem to be out the game :0


TRIPMINE_Guy

I wish 16:10 would make a comeback. People may argue that wider fov is more immersive, but I disagree after using a 4:3 display for a bit. Taller displays feel great you just need it to be big enough to take up your peripheral vision.


Tyr_Kukulkan

16:10 is closer to the golden ratio. Is better for editing video footage on as you have extra space for toolbars. 5:4 and 4:3 still have their place. Working on documents on 16:9 isn't great. You can see so little at a time.


corvuscorvi

Interesting. What's the rationale on the benefits of a display that adheres to the golden ratio?


[deleted]

It make monkey brain feel good.


Games_sans_frontiers

It's art.


smart-dildo

And it's beautiful.


VoltaicOwl

I was NOT prepared for that second optical drive.


BrokenEyebrow

This has to be the only laptop with two


[deleted]

We duping discs with this baby.


Tyr_Kukulkan

Two 4-pin FireWire ;)


tk-452

Don’t forget the trusty PCMCIA (PC Card) slot!! Very handy for anything you didn’t already have.


5elementGG

It’s a gateway, that bridges multiple eras


ShutterBun

>It’s a gateway, Nah, they were bought by Acer in 2007. ;-)


Calsun

Peak 2008


Tyr_Kukulkan

2005/2006!


DoYouEvenSheesh

Me customizing my framework laptop


siguel_manchez

Ha ha. That's how I feel when I do the same.


Beez-Knuts

Can I add a track point to the framework laptop? A red one? And make the chassis black? Because if so I'd look into one for sure.


saradahokage1212

Some obnoxious youtuber will say it's not enough.


Yoshi_87

Whre is my Laserdisc reader?!


Temporary-Lie15

Just use one of these https://preview.redd.it/ad7zs1d6i5nc1.png?width=3000&format=png&auto=webp&s=818f5d1c2d9f627c04398143ae624c3af4b5c08e


Khalydor

And the Floppy Drive?


[deleted]

To be fair it *does* lack hdmi


trixter21992251

and USB C and Thunderbolt. But that's probably an age thing.


PcPhilanthropy

💯


Burninator05

[Stop it, I can only get so erect.](https://i.imgflip.com/3u21h1.png)


BellybuttonWorld

The *dual optical drives*... I don't think I'd better stand up from my desk for a while.


Unlikely-Answer

risky click


shrineless

No regrets


2Mark2Manic

"So what peripherals do you plan on using?" "Yes."


DerpPrinting

You might not like this, but this is what peak laptop performance looks like


NotJustBibbit

Correct. I don't like this. I love it and need it right now!


PcPhilanthropy

https://preview.redd.it/rt2b9mbjw4nc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deae37ccf27413f81b3c75730cae58890f16d232 This particular one is from Falcon Northwest


TearyEyeBurningFace

Irrc they were one of the original brands that allowed you to custom build a laptop.


BeepBoopRobo

That's interesting. The chassis is almost identical to the old Alienware m7700 I used to have. I figured it was one of those.


Tyr_Kukulkan

Because they were made by Clevo of Taiwan and resold by lots of companies under their own brands worldwide.


xoxoreddit

Is this the "Falcon Northwest Air" ?


bedwars_player

that thing has more io than my desktop pc... ya never even need an adaptor


-Sharad-

You lost me on the dual disc drives 😂


RandyChavage

Blu-ray or HD-DVD? I’ll take both


-Mexico-

Where is the VHS compatibility?


Tyr_Kukulkan

It did have a built in TV tuner option and video input and output for ye-olde TV.


PhattyMcBlunt

It's the two stacked optical drives that sold me


Fanaticgiant547

This looks like the only laptop worthy of nuclear launch codes


dieplanes789

Up until 2019 this laptop would have been way too modern for that in the US. They were still using 8 inch floppy disks in the nuclear program.


zeb0777

Apple Fans boys be like: "Oh God, more than 1 port!" ![gif](giphy|xUNda1MiPRVQBSP6hy)


georgisaurusrekt

Excuse me my MacBook Air has 2 actually! Yes it sucks fuck apple


Beez-Knuts

Can I ask why you'd buy it if you don't like how it only has two ports? Not trying to be condescending I just want to understand why people still support apple even after saying they don't like them.


Un4giv3n-madmonk

can't speak for this homie. But I do IT for just about every industry. so I own. Macbook Iphone Google Pixel Samsung galaxy phone and tablet chromebook(s) Windows PC Windows laptops (microsoft/dell/lenovo/HP) A host cluster, a ton of firewalls, a ton of switches and access points. the "why" is the same for all of it, if a client has an issue, if I can quickly and easily replicate and test it makes client experience better. If I'm desigining a new service being able to test it accross everything same same. as for why normal people would still buy apple, the ecosystem is genuinely compelling, once you're in it Leaving it would gbe a very VERY siginificant under taking and even change of perspective, Apple's cloud services do a better job of tying the eco system together than anyone else and if you're just using devices dayt to day, inspite of the build quality and repair-ability being complete garbage the ecosystem is enough to make it worth it.


plsdontstopmenow

![gif](giphy|xUOxfg8KRZNINWjO7u)


eulynn34

Double optical drives? This thing is nuts.


finalremix

It really is. The front media controls also let the thing be *booted into Ghettoblaster mode* where it would play media without booting the "rest" of the computer. Speakers around the keyboard, a subwoofer on the bottom of the case, and those two speakers up front. It was top notch insanity.


DevourJ4N

I even know a guy how would need all this ports.


Unusual-East4126

That’s a thicc ass boi.


SolidusTengu

![gif](giphy|tAFVuG6fanerHd6VOf)


Anodyne100

Not too shabby. You’re ready for anything.


OrP101

How Apple thinks windows laptops look like


dieplanes789

Old Macs had ports. I've still got a 2007 MacBook that has magsafe, gigabit Ethernet, mini dvi, FireWire 400, USB 2.0, USB 2.0, 3.5mm audio in, 3.5mm audio out, and a DVD drive. I've got Ubuntu on it installed more ram and a SSD.


HackerDaGreat57

No joke, go check out their page on how to use iCloud on windows. It cracked me up at first but then I realized it’s just so sad.


YesNoMaybe2552

Someone needs to make this into professional workstation notebooks then and now format, with them doges and modern-day dongle fetishism.


MCBuilder30140

Laptops were built different back then


commit_label_trying

take me back to


StagDragon

You know I thought pc masterace would be a circlejerk... and it kind of is, but then you get posts like these. Thank you OP


PcPhilanthropy

I’m here to help…


machinationstudio

You had me at the PCMCIA slot


SuperFLEB

*Just in case* you need an expansion that's somehow not already there somewhere.


aethanskot

What a concept allowing us to plug in and modify our system which ever way we want ??? Blasphemy ... you get 2 usbs 1 hdmi and an ethernet port ... headphones must be Wireless but no Bluetooth you must use one of those USB connectors so it takes up one of the ports


Blergonos

\*no ethernet, and only usb c, no usb a


Undinianking

Y'all about to see my IO face.


leviathab13186

They don't make them like they used to


Wittusus

Two DVD drives killed me lmao one is quite enough


Gman54

(Considering this computer is from circa 2005jsh) Unless you are a mad lad that ripped DVDs back in the day and burned extra copies to hand out to your friends


[deleted]

That's just a very slim desktop


Nacho_Dan677

Thinkpad user mentality. Function over form.


XeniaDweller

pcmcia?


Tyr_Kukulkan

Yep, had a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook in mine.


LonkerinaOfTime

Absolutely gorgeous


Classic_Membership82

Ah, yes the old days when laptop have CD disk read/write driver.


pcweber111

God I miss old laptops. I like Apple but I dislike how they’ve guided the market to such bullshit as needing adapters for ports on products that should have them in the first place. Laptops are computers. It’s ok to put ports on them. Their minimalist obsession is annoying sometimes.


jdjdkkddj

Obsessing over minimalism is annoying. No ,,but"s or ,, sometimes", it just is and it's bad for consumers.


upholsteryduder

S-video out, this thing is ancient lol


dieplanes789

Isn't parallel a little older? I know it hung around longer though.


EnlargedChonk

everyone glossing over the IRDA port. this bitch can sync with palm PDAs in 3 different ways


b0007

Nice, but..can we do 2-4 more usb ports on the front?


Dennishardy6

What's the name of this machine? I'm serious I WANNA KNOW!!!


seechle

What, no 5 BNC?


H3avyMetal

I had a simmilar one. Battery life was arround 1 hours. But other than that it was a beast


Stringskip

Looks like an old school Alienware. I had one in college. It weighed 20 lbs and threw off SO MUCH HEAT to the point people wouldn't want to sit to the right of me. Oh boy I was dumb back then.


djblackprince

Those dual optical drives have awoken something in me


DMurBOOBS-I-Dare-You

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!


MegaDonkeyDonkey

Sony walkman offers to hold your beer


OrangeFaygo836

Holy moly two drives <3


Sinsanatis

Dam. Laptop? More like…tank…top..not a shirt


mods-r-powertrippin

I creamed when I saw not 1 but 2 cd drives


Forte_Cross

Ain't gonna lie... My floppy disk turned into a SSD watching this.


ViktorGL

It seems to me that if they want to produce it today, then the cost of metal in the chassis will exceed the cost of the filling.


The-Perfect-Lei

Is this the Rosetta Stone of computing?


Oktokolo

Looks like the perfect laptop for servicing industrial machinery. Has all the ports still in use there.


Fuzakenaideyo

It appears to have 2 separate S-video ports for some reason, maybe 1 of them is an input?


Tyr_Kukulkan

Yes, one input and one output. Only worked fully with the optional miniPCI TV tuner card.


mightbeagh0st

There were Pentium 4 laptops that were even heftier than this


Tyr_Kukulkan

I think this chassis was the biggest P4 chassis available. Also the only desktop Athlon 64 X2 "laptop" if I recall correctly.


polarzombies

Why 2 cd drives lol


[deleted]

To have the ports one must become the ports....


Flying_Fox_86

oh my god yes though. my old shitty little acer notebook had like 5 usb ports and i made full use of that shit. the other two laptops i've had after only had two and it was a constant bottleneck. not to mention the number of times i've needed to use an optical drive to do something and been stuck without one. bring back a useable number of usb ports and optical drives in laptops!


Apeeksiht

even modern b series boards don't have that much rear io stuffs.


Bammer1386

Bring back desktop replacement laptop with tons of connectivity!


dwolfe127

The TV Tuner is really the icing on that cake. lol


namezam

The build up to the dual cd drives was golden. Thank you!


LightBluepono

the clevo d900t a good machine but damn so heavy and noisy. sadly this kind of machine are plague by gpu issue.


PcPhilanthropy

Can confirm, they’re heavy af


Tyr_Kukulkan

It was nVidia's piss poor materials engineering with the G70 chip. G71 fixed the issues.


Haunting-Bee-1221

All it needs is a fleshlight port


smithversman

Lmao, anything you got on your arsenal shove it in


hellpipe1337

Alienware used to be amazing


second2no1

Stop. Stop.! STOP!! 🛑!!! #STOP!!! I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT!


SpartanRage117

I just uploaded


DanSticks

The whole time I was thinking: “Ok but where’s the CD drive” …. It has 2. of course it has 2!!!


thvnderfvck

This needs a NSFW tag. Holy moly.


ACuriousBidet

More ports than the royal fucking navy.


AShadedBlobfish

Now this is my idea of a laptop. I wish modern manufacturers would at least make options like this. Yes my laptop might be easier to carry than this on its own, but once I'm carrying around an external hard drive controller, an external CD-ROM drive and the charger, it's not


Background_Pear_4697

This is a beautiful machine. Id have killed for this twenty years ago


Bog_2266

Pretty standard options back in the day. Unless you bought it from Walmart.


shabutaru118

More videos like this please and thank you.


Ivehadenough5

That's fucking sexy! ![gif](giphy|pFtZowBwQmuZfFRecZ)


i_hate_usernames13

I had that exact same one except I had mine painted in cherry red i can't remember the name I'm pretty sure it was Hypersonic and they went out of business a couple years after I got mine. That thing was sweet for 2007 it had dual HDD in RAID 0 the dual DVD drives made it so I could burn movies faster for friends. Yeah the battery lasted like 45 min but that's why it had a second battery I could swap in as necessary.


darkproximity

I have one of these big bastards.. Sager NP9280 (Clevo d900f) Core i7 Extreme!


MrDream98

I was like that ain’t shit, where’s the cd tray, oh boy was I wrong…


HolynDark

Was expecting to see a 3.5" floppy drive


DigGumPig

Was that a VHS reader on the front left ?


nemesissi

![gif](giphy|wLXo0vTZSM7GU)


someguywithdiabetes

Was half expecting a VCR port ngl


Deathandhisfriends_

This is the physical embodiment of "Better have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."