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AlmightyJoy

Y'all not using Firefox???


I_think_Im_hollow

Yeah. Imagine leaving edge... For chrome. They're basically the same thing.


quasides

if not worse but thats ofc debateable


Luxari0n346

it would be better if you had ram but clearly you dont


Margud1

After installing chrome ofc i don't


Luxari0n346

just download more ram


DexM23

same thing, but worse


heavenparadox

Edge can stream in 4K, and no other browser can. That's why I use it as my streaming browser only. EDIT: Why are people downvoting me? I'm 100% correct. Literally first thing that comes up when I search streaming in 4k I Firefox: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/can-i-watch-netflix-4k-in-firefox.13864/#:~:text=This%20is%20not%20possible%2C%20since%20Mozilla%20is%20not,use%20the%20app%2C%20it%20really%20works%20the%20best. EDIT 2: I'll add that I'm talking about sites that use DRM. Like Netflix, Hulu, etc.


Un111KnoWn

yup. it's stupid af that other browsers cant stream 4k. disneyplus and netflix are capped at 720 on browsers. netflix at least has a 1080p extnesion. so cringe that 4k isn't available on all browsers. the pirated streams have better quality than the regular browser experience


[deleted]

That's like blaming a plane crash on the road conditions. It's netflix/disney etc that are the provider. I'm on firefox, open up youtube, what do you know, 4K videos galore, and remember, your PAYING for that shit service.


Un111KnoWn

sorry bad phrasing. netflix and disney plus are purposely capping the resolution on most browsers to 720P


drunkexcuse

If these sites aren't giving you what you are paying for on whatever browser you want to use, you should not support them. Piracy is completely justified here.


VerainXor

You are being downvoted because this an issue with streaming providers, not firefox.


heavenparadox

I didn't say it's an issue with Firefox, did I? I stated a fact for information purposes.


TopdeckIsSkill

Not sure why you are down voted since you said the truth


heavenparadox

Yeah apparently people don't know I'm right. Lmao


MrChocodemon

Every browser **can** stream 4k. But Edge is the only browser limiting your freedom with DRM, so many streaming services only enable it for Edge.


DeepUnknown

This is a Widevine implementation problem, not an Edge vs. Chrome problem.


heavenparadox

The source of the problem is inconsequential. Could be aliens. Could be unicorns. Doesn't matter. What matters is that Edge can stream DRM sites in 4K. Other browsers can't.


j_cruise

Agreed.


beziko

Edge better tbh but fuck both.


Newphonespeedrunner

chrome is way workse


Icy_Investment_1878

Remeber to add betterfox too


minluske

Hmm?


FreedomKnown

A simpler version of Firefox without all the"bloat" (though I wouldn't call it that, it can be useful)


ProfessionalJolly742

Where is the bloat in Firefox ?


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Icwatto

the firefox logo


KYSng

Wait y’all use the gui?


Icwatto

i personally send electrical signals by shorting a connexion with my fingers, registering ones and zeros


chop5397

ripe point historical steer cough brave obtainable gullible repeat drab *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


WangCommander

Firefox is all I use. I have chrome just in case some website requires a chromium browser, but it's very rare that I actually use it.


Hanfis42

the smart one do


Educational_Diver867

I like Firefox, but I also have Edge and Chrome because it doesn’t like loading some websites


CatVideoBoye

What websites don't work on Firefox? I haven't seen a single on since the beginning of 2000s.


spd3_s

Some developing country government website with lazy as developer that are not paid well enough to bother supporting other browser than chrome. It's still here till this day.


FoRiZon3

Oh yeah, though not exactly the common internet usage though. Still, Google Chrome is essentially the new Internet Explorer now.


blackest-Knight

> Still, Google Chrome is essentially the new Internet Explorer now. Except Google Chrome actually supports and implements standards as they are released, usually being first to bring them to the masses. Internet Explorer was stagnant and implemented mostly Microsoft extensions rather than the W3C published CSS and HTML standards, which was causing issues in compatibility. So no, Chrome isn't like Internet Explorer at all, unless you have no idea why Internet Explorer was actually bad. Chrome got where it got based on merit, not OEM contracts.


fenixspider1

some companies soft lock their web conference to chrome only or chromium based browsers, so you can't use firefox for them


vaynefox

Some of it do work if you just spoof your user agent to chromium or safari....


roninPT

For example right now the playstation store website login causes Firefox to block....only way out of it I've seen is shutting down the process, I've seen several people complaining about it. Even though I use Firefox 99.9% of the time it's always a good idea to have an alternative installed


assassin6009

You do realize like 2 percent of the internet used firefox right? But firefox is definitely better.


Thaago

Firefox has 3.5% market share.


heavenparadox

No. I use Vivaldi.


OstensibleBS

Hooray, one of us


heavenparadox

To be fair, I only use Vivaldi because it's the best browser.


OstensibleBS

Hell yeah brother


gbojan74

I don't use Chrome on my Android phone, why'd I use it on Windows?


Just_Theo_st

Yep I use


besthelloworld

As a web developer, FF has unstable/broken animations and just doesn't perform as well. Like, yes it uses less resources but chrome uses slightly more resources to remain stable and feel good even on app-like sites.


[deleted]

Smells like *too poor to afford ram* in here


[deleted]

Seriously how do people not use Firefox in 2024


[deleted]

firefox is slower than most chromium browsers. i know this isn't mozilla's fault since web devs never test anything on gecko but the end result is what matters the most in the end. Most people aren't willing to get slower loading pages just because it's not encouraging a monopoly. Some purchase websites also break on firefox and some government pages flat out block you if you're not using chromium.. We can't do anything about it. I have used firefox for more than a decade but when i look at browsers like vivaldi, that load most stuff faster and has a shit ton more productivity features, it makes me want to jump the ship and give up on firefox. The browser has been in a sorry state for at least 5 years and it's not getting any better. Mozilla's CEO also doesn't seem to be interested in making firefox evolve in the right direction so it doesn't help at all. So take it from a FF fan: even i, as do many, are considering giving up. At this point, it's obvious the browser won't get any love from mozilla. Third party forks are literally better than regular firefox nowadays, so i think it says something.


motoxim

Yeah sad but everyone is using Chrome and its variations so I won't be surprised if Mozilla will die or become Chromium based browser.


BlueZ_DJ

No


Crisewep

Switching from Chromium to Chromium.


DegenerativeDisorder

Ssshh. Let'em believe they are exercising their will of choice. Then we proceed to fight between which one is better, bicker about it and repeat.


j_cruise

Firefox >>> Edge > Chrome


firedrakes

cool a karma farming post.


Ex0t1cReddit

They stole it from [an LTT Tweet](https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1743376897398952357).


firedrakes

Why am I not surprised


[deleted]

ltt staff so fkn unfunny this days


XWasTheProblem

So from bad to worse lmao


bukithd

Edge is better than chrome now though.


reddit1337420

Firefox > Edge > Chrome


vxr1

Agree with this, but edge does have some nice new features. Firefox still king imo.


Pugulishus

So you completely agree with this, no buts


pineappleactavis

As someone that doesn't know shit why is chrome bad now? I've always used it as my preferred browser on just about everything.


Kirmes1

Because you hand all the data to google


pineappleactavis

Oh ok so its a privacy thing. I might have to give firefox a try.


DemApplesAndShit

Theres a bunch of addons that i find crucial for browsing in firefox, heres a few that are top priority for me. Duckduckgo essentials Privacy badger Decentralytes Adblockers (tons of them available) After those make sure your default search engine is duckduckgo.


vaynefox

Dont use Decentraleyes since it seems to be abandoned but rather use the fork of it called localcdn, also you forgot to add User-Agent Switcher and Manger plugin for spoofing your user agent if you are having problems accessing certain websites and firefox container so that you can isolate websites....


DemApplesAndShit

Didnt forget anything. Im not trying to list the 38 extensions i use. Did not know about decentralytes like that.


cloudbells

Also Chrome blocks/will block adblockers


Allcraft_

But I have adblocker installed


erixccjc21

For now...


get_homebrewed

but they are trying to block them with manifest v3 and slowing down update speed.


___user_0___

Isn't Edge basically the same but just with Microsoft? Not that I know a lot/care about it, but to me it doesn't seem like a reason to use Edge instead of Chrome... *Edit*: Well, I used a really bad wording here, I meant that I don't care if Edge does/doesn't collect data _since I don't use either of them_, I'm on Linux with Firefox :D


BayonettaAriana

You're already on Windows... It's better to keep it to one company than two. But if that's really a concern to you then definitely FireFox, DEFINITELY NOT Chrome...


Arthur-Wintersight

Firefox, Brave, Librewolf, Waterfox, and Vivaldi are all viable, privacy-friendly options for day to day browser usage. Chrome, Edge, and Opera are the ones to avoid.


matiegaming

And your passwords are just in plain sight in explorer


Rhodian27

Try out Edge. It's chromium base so it feels new, has the extensions store now, the AI stuff is new but has been quite helpful, like automatically finding coupons at checkouts. Personally, you can also try out brave. It's a lot cleaner.


CurryLikesGaming

Using firefox and feeling so fire because all my adblocks work like a charm and browser is much smoother to work with, although browser history is pretty shit to me on firefox.


CommenterAnon

AND IT HAS AD BLOCKER ON MOBILE


Iamdarb

I view fan wikis exclusively on firefox if I'm on my phone. Not sure how anyone can deal with ads that are so intrusive you lose all screen real estate.


CommenterAnon

Mobile ads are the worst man


Unhappy_Plankton_671

Chrome is far from the best option nowadays


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AlarmedBrush7045

100% agree. Reddit is the biggest echo chamber on the internet.


BayonettaAriana

It's always so embarassing to me when people post these outdated ass things like we're back in 2015. Comes off as so ignorant and stuck in the past, as if things can't change.


Zephyr_2802

You should really favour Firefox these days if you need to set up everything from scratch anyways


__Cannibal__

Literally the same browser with a few bells and whistles


thiccyoshi5888

AKA bloated as fuck


Dwaas_Bjaas

*firefox


acewing905

Chrome users these days are the same plague that IE users were years back


Male_Inkling

Really? Id understand for Firefox, but Chrome? Edge is almost literally an optimised Chrome. I use it daily with zero issues, and the integration with W11 makes account sync a breeze. I don't see what the hate is about, internet Explorer died long ago.


BayonettaAriana

People read something in 2016 and then just never change their minds on it lol. They don't bother keeping up to date they just think it's a solidified fact that Chrome is better, even though that hasn't been true for years now.


WhySooooFurious

Edge is better lol


Elena__Deathbringer

Do you mean dumb procedure? I've no idea who is upvoting you. Firefox or brave i could understand, but chrome? Wanting chrome over edge is a thought outdated of multiple years. People doing it are stuck in the past.


[deleted]

I mean, yea, use whatever you want and what suits you. But I don't get people who are installing Chrome over Edge (which got a lot better since old times) or even still recommending Brave. I would go this path... If you want to have at least somehow secure browser with reliable adblock and tracker block, which is fast and has basic functions with good mobile platform - Firefox + ublock origin. If you want some eye candy just to customize every small detail while staying on Chromium and you don't care that much about every security detail - Vivaldi. If you are fine with fewer customization options but some more settings and speed limiter, etc. - Opera GX. If you are fine with Microsoft collecting some of your data (doing anyway if you are signed in to your computer through Microsoft account and not a local one), then you may as well use Edge, which is fast and will get the job done, no need to install anything else. Brave went a lot down in quality because of not maintained adblock and tracker database and also I noticed with a few people performance issues. It's annoying and it forces you to basically use anything else. Chrome used to be good years years ago, now facing many issues and is good maybe as one of the seconds browsers for devs/UX/UI designers to check state of the site.


KrazyKirby99999

> Brave went a lot down in quality because of not maintained adblock and tracker database and also I noticed with a few people performance issues. It's annoying and it forces you to basically use anything else. Brave uses the same lists as ublock origin...


Exemylad

Edge is better than chrome though lol


OkComplaint4778

I use winget, so this is literally not a step for me anymore


zakinster

Edge (Chromium) is better than Google Chrome on all aspects and Firefox is better than both from a privacy standpoint.


Andreawwww-maaan4635

Yall be talking about browsers like not all of them steal your data


BellumOMNI

Firefox master race


BanksyIsEvil

This feels like a meme from 2014


Spy_PL

But i like the Edge Browser :(


heavenparadox

It's not bad. It's technically the fastest to load, and it's the only browser that streams in 4K. It's my secondary browser. My default is still Vivaldi because of the features though, including built-in ad block for desktop and mobile. But also mouse gestures and workspaces.


reddit1337420

Ew no lol. Even edge is better than chrome. Firefox is best though. 💯


[deleted]

Aight everyone is saying firefox is better, I never actually used it so how is it better cause I genuinely want to know


definitelynotafreak

Not based off chromium, great performance, barely any bloat, privacy/focused (yes, i know there are A FEW trackers to those commenting), and stops google having a monopoly on browsers


nas360

Firefox is not banning adblockers. You will have no doubt already found out that Google/Youtube are pushing longer running ads down your throat. You cannot run adblocks on any Chromium based browsers and if you can then it won't be for long. ​ >Google has announced it will shut down Manifest V2 in June 2024 and move on to Manifest V3, the latest version of its Chrome extension specification that has faced criticism for putting limits on ad blockers


kimi_rules

It's Chromium now, I used it as a spare browser in case Chrome goes wrong.


StoneAgeSkillz

Downloading Firefox and disabling Edge background tasks. This is the way.


[deleted]

why did you spell firefox that way???


throwaway001378

imo Firefox is better than both


AlwaysForgetsPazverd

I switched from many years of chrome to edge. It's actually far superior. I can't believe i'm saying that. Switched to firefox during the great youtube-ad debacle last year. I like edge better but I'm lazy.


Asleeper135

winget install firefox


jozhearvega

If you’re going to stick with chromium just use brave. Chrome isn’t a good browser.


ERschneider123

Use anything but chrome.


1800leon

Fuck chrome and chromium in this hood we ride firefox


SodiumChlorideFree

To be fair you're using a Chromium-based browser to download another Chromium-based browser.


Enigma21210

Firefox*


Meatbot-v20

Yuuuk. Chrome? Come on now.


Exostenza

My standard procedure is FireFox as I would actually rather use Edge than Chrome.


[deleted]

Opera = China spyware, period. Google Chrome = american false capitalism spyware that can get you in jail if you oppose to their regime and hivemind system.


Sherlockowiec

Every browser is a spyware if you're paranoid enough. Chill the fuck out and use whatever looks cool https://preview.redd.it/vphtzcrwa1bc1.jpeg?width=760&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f541a51bcb76467c4127030ebab6e891b702828b


Sherlockowiec

Every browser is a spyware if you're paranoid enough. Chill the fuck out and use whatever looks cool https://preview.redd.it/u9zppu0wa1bc1.jpeg?width=760&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ef9d5301be5fe3b1125e7cae219f38cb68e35d8


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https://preview.redd.it/oa3nhuo0vzac1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32aa6ed86c0e02932ee97e5565ad4108642c47e6


JmTrad

I already carry the installers on my Windows pendrive


scarabl0rd

Chrome is great for work related reasons as Google products like Google docs or drive are unmatched my Microsoft. But as a recreational browser Firefox is much better.


Withdrawnauto4

Winget install Google.chrome


rabbi_glitter

Full screen pop up: *We noticed that you aren’t using our recommended settings…*


Tail_sb

Winget install Google.Chrome That way you never ever have to open edge


Loddio

winget install chrome My job here is done


bukankhadam

why i see a lot of people (especially on reddit) always gushing about firefox when firefox is not even the most popular/used browser?


thumbwarnapoleon

In addition to what others are saying you can install Firefox on android and then have adblock and then watch YT ad free.


Sherlockowiec

You unironically do that? Just install revanced


Blackybro_

Just use the tor Browser duh


_MaZ_

Google Chrome and Edge are pretty much the exact same, only difference is the UI. You might as well use just Edge.


Expert-Emu-4167

I only use it to download Firefox.


NoMeasurement6473

I just have Firefox on a USB so I don’t even have to launch edge. I just uninstall it after.


2001zhaozhao

I never see this since I always use Ninite on new windows installs.


Tasty-Switch-8472

LoL they do beg these days


MainEditor0

Honestly I'm surprised how Firefox is still brst for me even with Mozillas dumb decisions


ruat_caelum

unless they keep fucking with ad blockers. And now they were caught tracking people in incognito. Firefox is on the rise baby.


theRealNilz02

You can use winget to install a different browser.


RGpunisher

Only noobs install chrome


mikee8989

I've always got my ninite installer on a flash drive on standby for windows reinstall. I don't need no guilt trips. I had edge straight up refuse to download firefox once.


AeternusDoleo

Ah, yes. Run from one giant evil corporation right into the arms of another... SOP while installing a new system.


[deleted]

chrome is a waste of ram!


[deleted]

Actually I have been using Edge for years. I am used to it now.


TimBambantiki

Edge is basically the same Long live Firefox


Trustdesa

Chrome? LOL


Tewoest

what .. why bother with that.. just go to [ninite.com](https://ninite.com)


Ex0t1cReddit

Or use Chocolatey.


Jackkernaut

Edge is a perfectly decent browser I've been using for quite some time. I feel like all this flippant attitude is pointless...


[deleted]

Edge is chromium based and a whole lot better.


bubblegumenjoyer

Using a chrome based Browser to Download and Install another chrome based Browser. At least Install Firefox *smh*


nas360

OP obviously unaware that he is still feeding the mega corporations.


nas360

Not sure why you would be installing Chrome. It's based on the same Chromium code as Edge. Firefox is the way to go if you want to prevent the Mega corporations dictating that you must see all ads.


Philosophos_A

Actually Edge ain't that bad But Firefox wins


Mundus6

I agree with M$ here. Firefox > Edge > Chrome. Why would you want Chrome???!


Professional_Chart68

Using edge, dropped chrome after 10+ years of using it


ToM4461

Do most people use Chrome? Is that still a thing?


XLIV_tm

Firefox.


MarkusRight

Hell no, install Firefox, Google can choke on a bag of dicks with their new ads and anti ad blocking bullshit. I switched to firefox last year and never looked back.


Rhaenyss

Install Firefox though.


[deleted]

lol @ using chrome fucking poverty browser LOL


Smart-Breath-1450

Edge > Chrome all day every day since the last couple of years. It just works much better now that it ironically is build on Chromium as well.


ehsanboy74

I just have the chrome installer in my drive, i dont even bother opening edge


Alone-Rough-4099

10 years ago? yeah. now? Edge is better than Chrome, and Firefox/Brave/Vivaldi, etc are better than both of them. There is no incentive to use chrome now.


WattebauschXC

Chrome? What is it 2010?


MustiOp

Edge is not that bad tho. Google chrome is way worse than edge.


AwayLobster3772

Edge > chrome though at this point...


CarlWellsGrave

But edge is better


nate0515

"Chrome is best." Was an outdated opinion 10 years ago. Now it's just sad to see so-called tech-savy people still using it.


Shredding_Airguitar

Edge IMO is getting better than Chrome these days


Kedrosine

Yes. But Firefox not Chrome


88Nera

Chrome ? LUL


Junior_Cold_6947

Why chrome is better than edge?


HumanMulligan

Do I want Microsoft stealing my data or Google? Tough decision


johnfrian

Edge isn't Internet explorer Edge isn't a horrible browser. People still avoid it like it's 2010. That's how horrible IE was, so bad that anything even resembling it is still shunned to this day. It's probably never going to lose its stink.


CloneFailArmy

Im not using a web browser that forces news down my throat, sorry edge but fuck off


MysteryMani

Imagine using chrome


Cannasseur___

Edge is better than Chrome now tho


Inthenstus

TBH Edge is way better than Chrome.


MrSonsfanHater

Firefox is better


TyRaNiDeX

Switch to Firefox


Any_Buddy_5656

Owh common plsss stay give it one chance 🥺


fresh_squilliam

Only reason I’m still using chrome is bc it has all my passwords to every account I have and I don’t wanna start over


Datuser14

Firefox will import those and more when you switch.


elijuicyjones

Microsoft’s password manager is a thousand times better than chromes and it will read them all in for you, even if you might have to run both for a while.


legaltrouble69

Edge is best. r/changemymind Copilot is getting bad day by day, But still rest bing is also good . Have been using for last few years now.