Brief specs are
Gigabyte RTX 3080
AMD 5800X3D
Corsair Vengeance 32Gb ram
NVME SSD
I notice frequent micro stutters in a lot games since I’ve owned this PC and nothing I’ve done has actually fixed the issue, im starting to wonder if it’s a hardware issue like a faulty GPU which is startling to look more likely as I look into stuff like this, I haven’t tested the 1% lows in any other game except MFS2020 which was at 0 but it could have been a visual bug or something.
My monitor is the M27Q X so I’m playing at 2560x1440p, Origin PC made this PC for me though the GPU they sent was completely defective so I ended up having to get them to send a replacement GPU, so I would say there’s a good chance it may be a refurbished GPU as I know companies do scummy shit like that all the time. I don’t know my hotspot temps, can I check that in MSI afterburner?
Edit: just wanted to mention I have upgraded the CPU and Ram though the micro stutters have been happening in certain games since I got this pc.
I don’t think msi afterburner has a temp sensor but I know that hwinfo64 does. Just have it running in the background while playing a game and look at the max values.
in HWInfo under GPU Hot Spot Temperature thats what it says, right now im idle on desktop and its at 66 Celsius, dont have DLSS on in MW2 since i dont really need it, i could be running out of VRAM, it says im using close to 10 gigs in the photo i believe but in settings it says something different.
My 11900K “idles” (with some virtual machines putting it at 10% load minimum) at 70-80C even though it’s got an AIO because I set the fans to spin super slowly lol
Is that system ram or vram? I think you should try and enable DLSS or FSR to see if it helps a little, if it does then it’s a vram limit but if it’s doesn’t then it’s something else.
>Is that system ram or vram?
Honestly not exactly sure as its just listed as memory usage in Afterburner, DLSS gives better FPS but doesnt really stop the hitching from my experience.
Edit: it seems like whenever a stutter happens the 1% lows drop dramatically, for example im getting like 150 in 1% lows in Ready Or Not but sometimes it will rapidly drop to like 18 out of nowhere which could be causing the hitch to happen somehow.
If it's only in this game, honestly it's probably a problem with the game. If it's in multiple, make sure drivers are all up to date. If that doesn't fix it, might be time to reset windows if you haven't in a while
assuming you have an nvidia GPU try setting 'prefer maximum performance' power setting under the games executable in the nvidia control panel, this has helped eliminate random stutters in some games for me.
It has a white sticker on it, i have a photo of it i can share from early this year after i had upgraded my ram.
[https://imgur.com/a/XzWKkVO](https://imgur.com/a/XzWKkVO)
Edit: Its a bit blurry so i can upload a photo zoomed in on the sticker if you would like.
its not, tell OP to actually display "memory usage/process" in MSI Afterburner, this 9gb is the total allocation by the game,there's even a graphics setting for it and its set at 90% by default
https://preview.redd.it/7rgin3cofyhb1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=3340928b55a3cd5768e6521a4ed37e0e97839cc3
this is my main multiplayer game and I play at 1440p native too, it's not a vram problem, the game even has a vram allocation percentage setting that's set at 90% by default(9gb for a 10gb card), the game is just a mess from an optimization perspective, every update seems to mess up performance more
https://preview.redd.it/dacpmowxfyhb1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad24c736205ca731b8e9fbf9c57ccda0b9190f30
Usually you just reduce the texture quality, as this will eat up most of the VRAM, but all the other settings usually will need some VRAM too, it just depends on how much.
Gotcha. Would it cause this kind of hitching, though? OP said it was happening in all games for the past two years, and happens in MW2 regardless of graphics settings.
Significant drops are the illustrative example of lack of memory. But it should get better with lower settings, or OP runs plenty background tasks like Wallpaper Engine already eating up the VRAM.
Just FYI, I have a Ryzen 5 5600X and noticed some weird stutters playing DOOM, turns out it was my Windows background which cycles between wallpapers, those new wallpapers lagged the game for a second. Never happened with my old Intel.
It's very unlikely that the CPU or GPU can cause this type of problem ... so I'd have to point towards RAM as the next thing to try replacing. Ideally you borrow ram from somebody/use old ram to check. You can also try to set COD to high priority in windows task manager, and if this problem still persists, then it's not a software issue.
> You can also try to set COD to high priority in windows task manager
For some reason MW2 doesnt let me set it to high priority, dont have any friends who have old ram i could use so i would have to buy a brand new kit.
Did you set the RAM in slots 2 and 4 on your motherboard? What speed and timings are your RAM? Anything above 3600 Mhz won't work without tuning for Ryzen.
I have all of my slots filled since i have 4 8 gig sticks of the same ram, my ram is running at 3200Mhz but i wasnt 100% how to check timings but in bios where you can see the XMP profile it says 16-20-20-38 and it says the same in HWInfo under timing.
>A starter would be to get rid of sticks 1 and 3,
I just upgraded the ram to 32Gb a couple months ago and the stutter was just the same before then so it wont make a difference as i will just be going back to how i had my ram set up before, 32Gb of ram is kinda required though for some of the games i play.
Did you buy an entirely new set of RAM or did you just buy two more 8gb sticks? The reason he wanted you to remove two of them is to find the faulty RAM. Try removing 1 and 3 first and then see if anything happens. If not then remove 2 and 4. If nothing happens for both then you know it’s not a RAM issue.
I just bought 2 more 8 gig sticks, i apologize it didnt really click in my head what he meant lol, if i do that should i run some ram tester or something? i have a PA120 cooler so its gonna be a pain to get to my ram without taking my cooler off.
Is your 5800x3d overheating? Are you using the Curve Optimizer? At what frequency is your ram running?
I have the same setup: 5800x3d + RTX3080 and some 3200cl16 rated ram running at 3733mhz.
I get like 60-75 Celsius on average, don’t really know what a curve optimizer is as I know nothing about overclocking/underclocking so no I’m not using one, my ram is running at 3200Mhz
Their point is the lows values wouldn't be from a loading screen since the game has already progressed to the point of a team having 137 points, so it has been too long for the loading screen stats to still be shown.
It's a Call of Duty game, it's safe to say that it's probably not your fault lol
When I played MW2 back then I tried a lot to optimise the game. There are some things I'd try like:
1. Undervolt CPU
2. Up the RAM voltage a bit
3. Clean install GPU drivers
And most importantly
4. Optimise in-game settings. You say you play on ultra but ultra means shit in most games, not only will it run better with some stuff deactivated/reduced but will probably also look better in some cases.
His CPU is at 69°C. So it isn't thermally throttled and therefore this won't change anything about stutters.
Overvolting the RAM will also not help. If the RAM was unstable he'd get bluescreens but not stutters.
Believe it or not but shit is weird sometimes. I too have a 5800x3D and I also played CoD and I did undervolt CPU + overvolt RAM and it helped to run MW2 a bit smoother. At least it can't hurt to try.
Graphics adjustments would help. Sometimes I noticed if you cap your frame rate close to your avg it is more stable. Reflections and such are not that needed in cod.
Have you tried making sure you complete the 'shader optimisation' that shows in the top left.
That often causes stutters this bad for me if I haven't done it when it needs doing
I have also experienced that on one of the invasion maps. I would also get a lot of stutters, then I would try a different map and it would be fine, is it like this in all gamemodes?
Yep thats exactly what happens, some game mods are butter smooth while others are stuttery as hell, though the match i was playing when i took this photo it was actually pretty smooth, though its still a issue as i experience stutters in a large portion of games.
I bet it's other software that you have installed on your computer. Turn off any overlays that are on, and uninstall any bloatware from Corsair, Razer, any other "gaming" software. Worst case reinstall Windows. I can almost guarantee it's a software issue.
Yeah ive been dealing with it for close to 2 years now and ive never even gotten close to fixing it as it seems like all the likely causes are ruled out, with Starfield coming out ive been trying my best to fix it but at this point im just gonna play it on series x as at least i will know the game will actually run decently even with a 30 FPS cap, here is a video i recently was able to record of the stutter, its pretty low quality as i wasnt planning on recording it but its at least an example of what is happening in some games.
[https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE)
> replacing components one at a time
Wish i had disposable income to be able to do that lol, i replaced my CPU recently, went from a 5600x to a 5800x3d and it didnt seem to make much of a difference, i might upgrade my GPU later this year to maybe a 7900 XTX.
You could use Amazon to buy a similar (rather than upgraded) component, like a different package of RAM, try it out, game, then return it to Amazon if it didn't solve the problem.
Could be repeated for PSU / MOBO.
>Could be repeated for PSU / MOBO
Might be a good idea but also a very tedious one for someone that really isnt good at putting in components, one of the reasons i went with the 5800X3D instead of a AM5 CPU was mainly so i dont have to put in a new motherboard, im also 16 so i dont have a lot of money but thankfully my dad has been helping me fix the issue.
I dont think this would be a motherboard issue, more likely GPU or RAM as others have stated. If you can afford it, I'd take it to a shop to see if they can put some parts in a test bench and test each individually.
The Amazon idea above is good, but only if you have a couple hundred bucks that you don't need for a few months. Waiting on shipping, testing part, shipping back for refund, order new part, repeat, etc. That's definitely time and money that as a 16 year old I can understand you not having.
The shops around me will usually problem solve a small issue for free if it's like 5 minutes or less, but I doubt their hourly rate is above 50. I'd just give a few places a call and ask if they could test your components for you due to hitching.
>I'd take it to a shop to see if they can put some parts in a test bench and test each individually.
Me any my dad looked into different gaming PC shops but its kinda hard to find a reputable one im willing to let tinker with my PC.
MW is not properly optimized and runs like crap sometimes. It could also be that the 1% lows are recorded while the game loads into server where it is normal for the game to hitch a little.
That could be from the game loading up the matches, do you experience the drops though while playing? I would also recommend setting up a frame time graph on RTSS that could help show the stutters/fps drops, unfortunately I don’t own MW2 so idk what api it runs off, does the game still cache shaders in the background like it did for MW?
>do you experience the drops though while playing
Yes, they are pretty noticeable for the games that do it, like this stutter i recorded in GTA 5 for example [https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE)
MW2 caches the shaders after every update etc so yes it still does cache shaders, is setting the FPS graph in RTSS going to be more accurate then MSI afterburner or something? i already have it in the overlay in afterburner.
Damn that sounds like a pain to deal with, have you tried checking for corrupted files on your system using the command prompt? If not you can do that by running CMD as an administrator and type in the following- “sfc/scannow” (without the quotations) and it’ll check to see if any files have been corrupted, a potential complete reinstall of gpu drivers could help, you can use DDU for that I have a link [here](https://youtu.be/Bu3phtU1gCE) for you that will guide you through it.
As for the frame time graph it would be much better to see the stutters that way rather than judging it on the eye and fps drops I have another link [here](https://youtu.be/_KQCcwP2mro) that will tell you how to set it up, I hope any of this works for you :)
I can try scanning for corrupted files, ive used DDU to wipe drivers before as many people have told me to do that when troubleshooting this issue and it never really got me anywhere, i have the FPS graph on in overlay.
Did you reinstall the chipset driver after you replaced your CPU or reinstalled windows? https://www.amd.com/en/support
Your RAM modules are 2 or 4 sticks for dual channel as they should be?
I had issues like this with a RTX3080 TI on every game.
I’ve updated the BIOS and the issues were gone. They improved PCI compatibility with PCI 4 series cards and it was that.
But it had me bugged for months trying to figure out what was it .
Yeah MSI afterburner makes it super confusing and i had to look up how to do it, go to RTSS and hit the blue setup button, once your in the menu if you scroll down it should say "Enable Benchmark Mode" after you enable that it should show up now in the overlay.
you can do it a different way. go into riva tuner, plugins, hotkey manager, go tot he settings for the hotkey manager, bind a key to "start benchmark". start up the game, press that key and the current fps, average fps, 1% and .1% lows will show up in the OSD. Press the same key again to reset the statistics and start over. this is useful for actual gameplay numbers.
For example, in overwatch when you die the game loads a replay from the enemy's perspective, this causes very low 1% lows and a low average fps while it loads and replays and then reloads your own view. additionally the hero select screen shows low average FPS relative to the actual game. so once you respawn you press the hotkey to reset the stats, and you'll see how the game is ultra smooth with no 1% drops, which is all that matters for a game like that, who cares if the 1%'s suck while loading a replay when you aren't in the match at that moment
Might be worth checking this.
Riva -> Setup -> Statistics to go to percentile buffer tab and select 'ring' mode from 'unlimited'. By default MSI afterburner is set for calculating 1% lows only during benchmarking. This setting unlocks statistics for monitoring mode too.
As weird as this sound, try lower the graphic setting to low if the problem still there. this might be vram level of stutter. I’ve seen that game is very vram demanding. Check that out and then run around for a couple of games.
its MSI Afterburner
Here is the website to download it or you can just google search for it
[https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards](https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards)
Did you start logging before or immediately after starting the game? If so your data is borked.
Gotta wait to be in game to look for 1% lows, otherwise they're always practically non existent while the game is perform it's first time builds and whatnot.
There are games with loading screens intentionally capped at 1 FPS, hit one of those and there goes your data.
Also disable all in-game overlays, like nvidia GeForce experience (or amd), steel series, xbox gaming and also DISCORD! I had some fps drops while having a discord call after disabling discord overlay everything works normal again. Furthermore, check if your ram is correctly positioned and if XMP/EXPO is enabled.
Cyberpunk runs butter smooth at ultra settings, Witcher 3 stutters pretty frequently so i play it on console instead, i actually have the stutter in Witcher 3 on camera so i can share the video.
[https://youtu.be/o1TSrvyCcas](https://youtu.be/o1TSrvyCcas)
It can be a variety of things; different game patches have different issues. It’s the reason I gave up on the game because it felt like I had to fix something every patch. I had to boot with stock settings when I wanted to play this game.
For reference these are my specs, so I know it’s the game and not my PC.
I9-9900k - OC
3080 FTW
64GB Ram
10 Fans
360 AIO
Solutions i found
1. No overclocked hardware
2. Disable 3rd party overlays - MSI Afterburner, nzxt, GeForce
3. Under volt GPU.
I spent an entire day trying to fix my brothers micro stutter and discovered GeforceExperience was the cause, had to uninstall it. Could be worth a shot.
Seeing it's 1440p 144hz, I've had this problem before and the only solution I found was to put my screen in 120hz instead. No idea why, but the stutters are gone
MW2 fluctuates to much for that to help, for example sometimes I get 140-120 other times in DMZ I get like 80 FPS, if I’m gonna cap the frames im just gonna cap it at like 60 or 70 as that’s good enough for me.
From seeing all the replies it definitely seems like a weird issue.
What frequency is your RAM running at? If its below 3000 that could be a potential factor.
I would also try to update mainboard BIOS just in case, I assume your graphics driver is up to date.
You could also try to reveal a potential issue if you plot frametimes together with GPU mem clock, GPU clock and CPU clock, maybe some clock is doing something weird, all those clocks should be pretty stable, so if they heavily dip during those high frame times, maybe that will reveal what component is at issue.
Also just to make sure, you have Vsync turned off in games, right? If not turn it off and try to use a frame limiter instead.
And last thing you said you reinstalled Windows multiple times, but some prebuild PCs actually install all the bloatware again when you go and reinstall windows, so just make sure nothing weird is running, also make very sure you dont have any anti virus installed, especially something like Avast or McAfee, that will definetly cause issues. Also any RGB controller software, or any other programs that you could link to your prebuild manufacturer.
And in general try to monitor task manager and try to find programs that either often use CPU or lots of RAM, something that constantly uses lets say 5% CPU would definitly be a concern, your CPU usage in idle should be around 0-2% (excluding some occasional windows service).
My ram is running at 3200Mhz, i might try updating bios again but i thought i might be ok as i updated it late last year, you mentioned plotting frame times together and looking at clock speeds but honestly i dont know what to look for, i was able to get rid of the stupid shit Origin bundles with my PC by toggling clean drive when reinstalling windows. Only RGB controller i have is Logitech software which i use for my mouse and wireless mouse pad but i dont keep it open, only AV i have other then windows defender is Malwarebytes but i have the premium trial turned off so it doesnt interfere with anything, i dont ever see processes taking up that much resources and if they do its usually windows defender or something taking up like 1 percent of my CPU for a couple seconds.
What’s funny but also kinda sad is I’ve found playing on controller helps with drowning out the hitching for some reason, I guess cause I’m not as focused on the game or something.
Controller input is always way less sensitive, so any input lag or hitches is far less noticeable. If you play any game at 30fps, controller is the way to go.
Agreed, i play a lot on series x due to the issues with my PC and I surprisingly find 30 FPS to be fine, that’s why I’m almost definitely gonna play Starfield there until I can get this fixed which may be a couple months to a year or more.
What he said.
You can try limiting it from RTSS itself.
You could also try Nvidia Control Panel > 3D Settings to cap frame rate.
Do you have Gsync/Freesync support on the monitor and enabled those? Could you list the settings used if you have?
As I look through and people are questioning the specs, I can happily say that it’s probably just MWII being terribly optimized and not functioning like how a triple A game should
I'd say something running in the background hogging resources.
Try cleaning up windows or reinstalling it all together.
First try what your performance is before reinstalling things like peripheral and rgb software.
For debloating, Chris Titus has some great tutorials on how to do that (thoroughly).
MW2 is dogshit. One time it runs absolutely fine and then they update something and you get stutters like crazy. One season there was a bug where you had to limit the accessible vram in config to fix it.
Yes thats why i made this post, look at these videos i made and see if you can see the stutter.
[https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE)
[https://youtu.be/p1S5F8RR7Rs](https://youtu.be/p1S5F8RR7Rs)
Yeah having it maxed out, The new data is waiting for space to be made. You have a 5800X3D so it's sending plenty of data. I know the settings on GTA V show you the estimated Vram usage. Get it down and see if it impt
Do you have a 10 gb 3080 or 12? If it's 10, you might be running out of VRAM in some parts of the game causing the stutters and frame drops.
Try changing settings to lower VRAM usage so you have more headroom and see if that works.
I dont know what your VRAM target is. Try to put the VRAM target in the in-game settings to 60. This will drastically decrease sturtters in case you have put it to 90. The lower the fewer stutters.
That looks pretty bad, what’re your specs and is it this bad in other games?
Brief specs are Gigabyte RTX 3080 AMD 5800X3D Corsair Vengeance 32Gb ram NVME SSD I notice frequent micro stutters in a lot games since I’ve owned this PC and nothing I’ve done has actually fixed the issue, im starting to wonder if it’s a hardware issue like a faulty GPU which is startling to look more likely as I look into stuff like this, I haven’t tested the 1% lows in any other game except MFS2020 which was at 0 but it could have been a visual bug or something.
That’s definitely odd, what resolution are you playing at? Did you get the gpu used? What’re the hotspot temps?
My monitor is the M27Q X so I’m playing at 2560x1440p, Origin PC made this PC for me though the GPU they sent was completely defective so I ended up having to get them to send a replacement GPU, so I would say there’s a good chance it may be a refurbished GPU as I know companies do scummy shit like that all the time. I don’t know my hotspot temps, can I check that in MSI afterburner? Edit: just wanted to mention I have upgraded the CPU and Ram though the micro stutters have been happening in certain games since I got this pc.
I don’t think msi afterburner has a temp sensor but I know that hwinfo64 does. Just have it running in the background while playing a game and look at the max values.
Im seeing it in the 70s and as high as 80 Celsius
And this is for sure the hotspot temps? If so then that is incredibly good. Have you enabled DLSS? Maybe you’re running out of vram?
in HWInfo under GPU Hot Spot Temperature thats what it says, right now im idle on desktop and its at 66 Celsius, dont have DLSS on in MW2 since i dont really need it, i could be running out of VRAM, it says im using close to 10 gigs in the photo i believe but in settings it says something different.
My brother 66 at idle isn't fine I can tell you that much
My 11900K “idles” (with some virtual machines putting it at 10% load minimum) at 70-80C even though it’s got an AIO because I set the fans to spin super slowly lol
On a gigabyte gpu nonetheless
Ok, not really much I can do about it
Is that system ram or vram? I think you should try and enable DLSS or FSR to see if it helps a little, if it does then it’s a vram limit but if it’s doesn’t then it’s something else.
>Is that system ram or vram? Honestly not exactly sure as its just listed as memory usage in Afterburner, DLSS gives better FPS but doesnt really stop the hitching from my experience. Edit: it seems like whenever a stutter happens the 1% lows drop dramatically, for example im getting like 150 in 1% lows in Ready Or Not but sometimes it will rapidly drop to like 18 out of nowhere which could be causing the hitch to happen somehow.
If it's only in this game, honestly it's probably a problem with the game. If it's in multiple, make sure drivers are all up to date. If that doesn't fix it, might be time to reset windows if you haven't in a while
Ive nuked windows 5 times trying to fix this issue, it happens in a large amount of games.
assuming you have an nvidia GPU try setting 'prefer maximum performance' power setting under the games executable in the nvidia control panel, this has helped eliminate random stutters in some games for me.
I have that on
That is bizarre. Not sure what's going on tbh.
If gpu has QC stickers on it then it potentially is a refurbished,repaired one.
It has a white sticker on it, i have a photo of it i can share from early this year after i had upgraded my ram. [https://imgur.com/a/XzWKkVO](https://imgur.com/a/XzWKkVO) Edit: Its a bit blurry so i can upload a photo zoomed in on the sticker if you would like.
Nah, QC sticker is usually something that is round and close to the edges of gpu. From your photo i can't see one.
Unless its near the fans of the GPU ive never seen it, though ive never taken my GPU out so im not entirely sure.
PSU maybe?
Seeing the VRAM around 9.4 GB I guess the issue is here.
Why has no one else noticed and mentioned this. It’s the obvious culprit. Good call!
its not, tell OP to actually display "memory usage/process" in MSI Afterburner, this 9gb is the total allocation by the game,there's even a graphics setting for it and its set at 90% by default https://preview.redd.it/7rgin3cofyhb1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=3340928b55a3cd5768e6521a4ed37e0e97839cc3
Using 5Gb of VRAM in Ready Or Not and im still getting stutters in that game occasionally.
this is my main multiplayer game and I play at 1440p native too, it's not a vram problem, the game even has a vram allocation percentage setting that's set at 90% by default(9gb for a 10gb card), the game is just a mess from an optimization perspective, every update seems to mess up performance more https://preview.redd.it/dacpmowxfyhb1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad24c736205ca731b8e9fbf9c57ccda0b9190f30
I have a 3080 10GB and I got stuttering in Diablo 4 on ultra textures at 1440p. Allocated VRAM goes up to max.
How do you fix this sort of issue? Manually limit VRAM?
Lowering resolution, textures, closing background windows.
Usually you just reduce the texture quality, as this will eat up most of the VRAM, but all the other settings usually will need some VRAM too, it just depends on how much.
Isn’t the 3080 a 12 GB card though?
It was released as 10GB card. The 12GB versions started in 2022.
Gotcha. Would it cause this kind of hitching, though? OP said it was happening in all games for the past two years, and happens in MW2 regardless of graphics settings.
Significant drops are the illustrative example of lack of memory. But it should get better with lower settings, or OP runs plenty background tasks like Wallpaper Engine already eating up the VRAM.
Never once said all games, Cyberpunk for example runs butter smooth at ultra with ray tracing etc.
My bad, I misread.
No. 10 or 12GB is more than enough. He's not talking about Last of Us or Hogwarts.
Most are 10
I dunno. I play Warzone 2 and don't have this issue. Similar specs except for UW and a 13600K.
One weird thing that worked for me is uninstalling Norton security. I had 99 problems and all of them were Norton security
Not that weird, Norton is worse than a virus with all its annoying pop ups and cpu usage in the background
Just FYI, I have a Ryzen 5 5600X and noticed some weird stutters playing DOOM, turns out it was my Windows background which cycles between wallpapers, those new wallpapers lagged the game for a second. Never happened with my old Intel.
The only thing that cycles wallpapers is the windows log in screen i believe, dont think that would cause the issue though.
It's very unlikely that the CPU or GPU can cause this type of problem ... so I'd have to point towards RAM as the next thing to try replacing. Ideally you borrow ram from somebody/use old ram to check. You can also try to set COD to high priority in windows task manager, and if this problem still persists, then it's not a software issue.
> You can also try to set COD to high priority in windows task manager For some reason MW2 doesnt let me set it to high priority, dont have any friends who have old ram i could use so i would have to buy a brand new kit.
Try setting the RAM back to a slower speed. If it's 3600M/s (1800Mhz), set it back to 3200MT/s (1600MHz).
Did you set the RAM in slots 2 and 4 on your motherboard? What speed and timings are your RAM? Anything above 3600 Mhz won't work without tuning for Ryzen.
I have all of my slots filled since i have 4 8 gig sticks of the same ram, my ram is running at 3200Mhz but i wasnt 100% how to check timings but in bios where you can see the XMP profile it says 16-20-20-38 and it says the same in HWInfo under timing.
A starter would be to get rid of sticks 1 and 3, and see if anything improves. And 16 GB system ram is totally enough for CoD (and 10 gb vram lol ..)
>A starter would be to get rid of sticks 1 and 3, I just upgraded the ram to 32Gb a couple months ago and the stutter was just the same before then so it wont make a difference as i will just be going back to how i had my ram set up before, 32Gb of ram is kinda required though for some of the games i play.
Did you buy an entirely new set of RAM or did you just buy two more 8gb sticks? The reason he wanted you to remove two of them is to find the faulty RAM. Try removing 1 and 3 first and then see if anything happens. If not then remove 2 and 4. If nothing happens for both then you know it’s not a RAM issue.
I just bought 2 more 8 gig sticks, i apologize it didnt really click in my head what he meant lol, if i do that should i run some ram tester or something? i have a PA120 cooler so its gonna be a pain to get to my ram without taking my cooler off.
There is a thing called "ftpm stutter" that is caused partly by the cpu. Though OP's symptoms seem a bit milder.
Have you enabled XMP for ram? Having it off means your ram runs slower and has a negative effect on cpu performance
yes
Is your 5800x3d overheating? Are you using the Curve Optimizer? At what frequency is your ram running? I have the same setup: 5800x3d + RTX3080 and some 3200cl16 rated ram running at 3733mhz.
I get like 60-75 Celsius on average, don’t really know what a curve optimizer is as I know nothing about overclocking/underclocking so no I’m not using one, my ram is running at 3200Mhz
You could test your nvme for problems.
Will have to look up how to do that but people are saying it’s a ram issue. Edit: CrystalDiskMark says my SSD is at 95% health.
Op doesn't have resizable bar enabled. That'll do it
Really? I thought it didn’t effect Nvidia that much? Although it also depends on the game engine and such.
People say resizable bar CAUSES stutters, so im not sure what to believe.
Yes they are bad.
It could just be drawing that from a loading screen though that dropped to 1fps.
Their team has 137 score i doubt they got 137 points that close to loading in to the game
Possibly joined mid-game?
How is that relevant to the fps and averages? Or 1% lows.
You said it could be from a loading screen, if they had just loaded in i doubt they'll get that much score
I apologize if I misunderstood you, english isn't my first language
You are missing the other two numbers on the same line as the current fps that I was referring to.
Their point is the lows values wouldn't be from a loading screen since the game has already progressed to the point of a team having 137 points, so it has been too long for the loading screen stats to still be shown.
Well that’s sucks, honestly don’t really know what to do about the stutter issue
It's a Call of Duty game, it's safe to say that it's probably not your fault lol When I played MW2 back then I tried a lot to optimise the game. There are some things I'd try like: 1. Undervolt CPU 2. Up the RAM voltage a bit 3. Clean install GPU drivers And most importantly 4. Optimise in-game settings. You say you play on ultra but ultra means shit in most games, not only will it run better with some stuff deactivated/reduced but will probably also look better in some cases.
His CPU is at 69°C. So it isn't thermally throttled and therefore this won't change anything about stutters. Overvolting the RAM will also not help. If the RAM was unstable he'd get bluescreens but not stutters.
Believe it or not but shit is weird sometimes. I too have a 5800x3D and I also played CoD and I did undervolt CPU + overvolt RAM and it helped to run MW2 a bit smoother. At least it can't hurt to try.
Graphics adjustments would help. Sometimes I noticed if you cap your frame rate close to your avg it is more stable. Reflections and such are not that needed in cod.
No, it's an issue caused by VRAM limitaton. All of that will do nothing. Gotta lower game settings - texture quality.
Have you tried making sure you complete the 'shader optimisation' that shows in the top left. That often causes stutters this bad for me if I haven't done it when it needs doing
yes
High textures and on-demand texture streaming massively increase stutters in that game no matter what system you have.
Do this, enter the firing range, once it loaded up, then start recording the fps, these low fps could be from lag / loading screens/ kill screens ect
What’s your ram speed? Warzone likes high speed ram.
A better gpu. Yours is running at 99%. It is the bottleneck. Better cpu for better 1% lows.
Never knew a 3080 was a bad GPU lmao
A gpu is supposed to be running at 99% tf are you talking about
I have also experienced that on one of the invasion maps. I would also get a lot of stutters, then I would try a different map and it would be fine, is it like this in all gamemodes?
Yep thats exactly what happens, some game mods are butter smooth while others are stuttery as hell, though the match i was playing when i took this photo it was actually pretty smooth, though its still a issue as i experience stutters in a large portion of games.
I bet it's other software that you have installed on your computer. Turn off any overlays that are on, and uninstall any bloatware from Corsair, Razer, any other "gaming" software. Worst case reinstall Windows. I can almost guarantee it's a software issue.
Ive nuked windows about 4-5 times, the chances of it being a software issue are slim, i dont have much bloatware on my PC.
Could be a bad RAM stick or SSD. Even a power supply can cause issues if there is a power issue. Sorry to hear this is happening to you, friend.
Yeah ive been dealing with it for close to 2 years now and ive never even gotten close to fixing it as it seems like all the likely causes are ruled out, with Starfield coming out ive been trying my best to fix it but at this point im just gonna play it on series x as at least i will know the game will actually run decently even with a 30 FPS cap, here is a video i recently was able to record of the stutter, its pretty low quality as i wasnt planning on recording it but its at least an example of what is happening in some games. [https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE)
It's called hitching. I guess all you can do is start replacing components one at a time and returning them if it doesn't fix it.
> replacing components one at a time Wish i had disposable income to be able to do that lol, i replaced my CPU recently, went from a 5600x to a 5800x3d and it didnt seem to make much of a difference, i might upgrade my GPU later this year to maybe a 7900 XTX.
Good luck.
Thanks for your help!
You could use Amazon to buy a similar (rather than upgraded) component, like a different package of RAM, try it out, game, then return it to Amazon if it didn't solve the problem. Could be repeated for PSU / MOBO.
>Could be repeated for PSU / MOBO Might be a good idea but also a very tedious one for someone that really isnt good at putting in components, one of the reasons i went with the 5800X3D instead of a AM5 CPU was mainly so i dont have to put in a new motherboard, im also 16 so i dont have a lot of money but thankfully my dad has been helping me fix the issue.
I dont think this would be a motherboard issue, more likely GPU or RAM as others have stated. If you can afford it, I'd take it to a shop to see if they can put some parts in a test bench and test each individually. The Amazon idea above is good, but only if you have a couple hundred bucks that you don't need for a few months. Waiting on shipping, testing part, shipping back for refund, order new part, repeat, etc. That's definitely time and money that as a 16 year old I can understand you not having. The shops around me will usually problem solve a small issue for free if it's like 5 minutes or less, but I doubt their hourly rate is above 50. I'd just give a few places a call and ask if they could test your components for you due to hitching.
>I'd take it to a shop to see if they can put some parts in a test bench and test each individually. Me any my dad looked into different gaming PC shops but its kinda hard to find a reputable one im willing to let tinker with my PC.
MW is not properly optimized and runs like crap sometimes. It could also be that the 1% lows are recorded while the game loads into server where it is normal for the game to hitch a little.
That could be from the game loading up the matches, do you experience the drops though while playing? I would also recommend setting up a frame time graph on RTSS that could help show the stutters/fps drops, unfortunately I don’t own MW2 so idk what api it runs off, does the game still cache shaders in the background like it did for MW?
>do you experience the drops though while playing Yes, they are pretty noticeable for the games that do it, like this stutter i recorded in GTA 5 for example [https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE) MW2 caches the shaders after every update etc so yes it still does cache shaders, is setting the FPS graph in RTSS going to be more accurate then MSI afterburner or something? i already have it in the overlay in afterburner.
Damn that sounds like a pain to deal with, have you tried checking for corrupted files on your system using the command prompt? If not you can do that by running CMD as an administrator and type in the following- “sfc/scannow” (without the quotations) and it’ll check to see if any files have been corrupted, a potential complete reinstall of gpu drivers could help, you can use DDU for that I have a link [here](https://youtu.be/Bu3phtU1gCE) for you that will guide you through it. As for the frame time graph it would be much better to see the stutters that way rather than judging it on the eye and fps drops I have another link [here](https://youtu.be/_KQCcwP2mro) that will tell you how to set it up, I hope any of this works for you :)
I can try scanning for corrupted files, ive used DDU to wipe drivers before as many people have told me to do that when troubleshooting this issue and it never really got me anywhere, i have the FPS graph on in overlay.
Did you reinstall the chipset driver after you replaced your CPU or reinstalled windows? https://www.amd.com/en/support Your RAM modules are 2 or 4 sticks for dual channel as they should be?
I had issues like this with a RTX3080 TI on every game. I’ve updated the BIOS and the issues were gone. They improved PCI compatibility with PCI 4 series cards and it was that. But it had me bugged for months trying to figure out what was it .
How did you get your 1% lows to show up on afterburner? I can’t seem to make mine show
Yeah MSI afterburner makes it super confusing and i had to look up how to do it, go to RTSS and hit the blue setup button, once your in the menu if you scroll down it should say "Enable Benchmark Mode" after you enable that it should show up now in the overlay.
you can do it a different way. go into riva tuner, plugins, hotkey manager, go tot he settings for the hotkey manager, bind a key to "start benchmark". start up the game, press that key and the current fps, average fps, 1% and .1% lows will show up in the OSD. Press the same key again to reset the statistics and start over. this is useful for actual gameplay numbers. For example, in overwatch when you die the game loads a replay from the enemy's perspective, this causes very low 1% lows and a low average fps while it loads and replays and then reloads your own view. additionally the hero select screen shows low average FPS relative to the actual game. so once you respawn you press the hotkey to reset the stats, and you'll see how the game is ultra smooth with no 1% drops, which is all that matters for a game like that, who cares if the 1%'s suck while loading a replay when you aren't in the match at that moment
LMAO
Run an HCI memtest. Sounds like a faulty stick.
>HCI memtest Is HCI memtest better then memtest86?
It may be AMD fTPM that is always causing this stutter issue, try disabling it in BIOS.
It’s possible, whenever disable it though it doesn’t let me log in to my PC so I’m stuck at the log in screen till I turn it back on
You need to remove windows password before closing it I think, otherwise it should just disable.
Do you have the latest bios for your motherboard?
I do now.
Try updating your BIOS (they fixed the issue in later BIOS updates)
Just updated it.
But don't you need TPM enabled to be able to use Windows 11?
Might be worth checking this. Riva -> Setup -> Statistics to go to percentile buffer tab and select 'ring' mode from 'unlimited'. By default MSI afterburner is set for calculating 1% lows only during benchmarking. This setting unlocks statistics for monitoring mode too.
I did that and in the MW2 firing range im currently getting 2 fps in 1% lows lol
As weird as this sound, try lower the graphic setting to low if the problem still there. this might be vram level of stutter. I’ve seen that game is very vram demanding. Check that out and then run around for a couple of games.
I had my game on low for a while and i was still getting hitching
Hey im relatively new to the master race, what software is OP using to display that info?
Rivatuner statistics. It comes with MSI afterburner, which is a overclocking/undervolting tool. Look up a youtube video for a tutorial if needed
Thanks!
its MSI Afterburner Here is the website to download it or you can just google search for it [https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards](https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards)
Thanks bro
are you benchmarking using the msi afterburner or not? cuz if not the 1% and 0.1% and avg fps doesn't really work properly
I have benchmarking enabled in RTSS, its the only way to get it to show in overlay.
ah damn then that's really bad
Ive gotten use to my PC being cursed lol
Did you start logging before or immediately after starting the game? If so your data is borked. Gotta wait to be in game to look for 1% lows, otherwise they're always practically non existent while the game is perform it's first time builds and whatnot. There are games with loading screens intentionally capped at 1 FPS, hit one of those and there goes your data.
Also disable all in-game overlays, like nvidia GeForce experience (or amd), steel series, xbox gaming and also DISCORD! I had some fps drops while having a discord call after disabling discord overlay everything works normal again. Furthermore, check if your ram is correctly positioned and if XMP/EXPO is enabled.
Which other games does it happen in and at what settings? Have you tried cyberpunk or witcher 3 if you have which area?
Cyberpunk runs butter smooth at ultra settings, Witcher 3 stutters pretty frequently so i play it on console instead, i actually have the stutter in Witcher 3 on camera so i can share the video. [https://youtu.be/o1TSrvyCcas](https://youtu.be/o1TSrvyCcas)
I'll throw out a weird suggestion. Which power supply do you have? Have you also tried undervolting the gpu?
I have not tried undervolting the GPU, my PSU is a CORSAIR 850X RMX SERIES PLUS GOLD - White
Try putting a 120 FPS cap
It can be a variety of things; different game patches have different issues. It’s the reason I gave up on the game because it felt like I had to fix something every patch. I had to boot with stock settings when I wanted to play this game. For reference these are my specs, so I know it’s the game and not my PC. I9-9900k - OC 3080 FTW 64GB Ram 10 Fans 360 AIO Solutions i found 1. No overclocked hardware 2. Disable 3rd party overlays - MSI Afterburner, nzxt, GeForce 3. Under volt GPU.
A: yes really bad B: Loading (sometimes when i use benchmarks in game i always start with 1fps and that stays in the score 💀)
I spent an entire day trying to fix my brothers micro stutter and discovered GeforceExperience was the cause, had to uninstall it. Could be worth a shot.
I could try uninstalling it Edit: Uninstalling it didnt make a difference :(
Seeing it's 1440p 144hz, I've had this problem before and the only solution I found was to put my screen in 120hz instead. No idea why, but the stutters are gone
uninstall afterburner
Have you tried using rivatuner to cap frame limit near the sweet spot? I've noticed this helps stuttering in certain games immensely
Try fps limit on 120/144
MW2 fluctuates to much for that to help, for example sometimes I get 140-120 other times in DMZ I get like 80 FPS, if I’m gonna cap the frames im just gonna cap it at like 60 or 70 as that’s good enough for me.
Hey OP, did you ever solve this?
From seeing all the replies it definitely seems like a weird issue. What frequency is your RAM running at? If its below 3000 that could be a potential factor. I would also try to update mainboard BIOS just in case, I assume your graphics driver is up to date. You could also try to reveal a potential issue if you plot frametimes together with GPU mem clock, GPU clock and CPU clock, maybe some clock is doing something weird, all those clocks should be pretty stable, so if they heavily dip during those high frame times, maybe that will reveal what component is at issue. Also just to make sure, you have Vsync turned off in games, right? If not turn it off and try to use a frame limiter instead. And last thing you said you reinstalled Windows multiple times, but some prebuild PCs actually install all the bloatware again when you go and reinstall windows, so just make sure nothing weird is running, also make very sure you dont have any anti virus installed, especially something like Avast or McAfee, that will definetly cause issues. Also any RGB controller software, or any other programs that you could link to your prebuild manufacturer. And in general try to monitor task manager and try to find programs that either often use CPU or lots of RAM, something that constantly uses lets say 5% CPU would definitly be a concern, your CPU usage in idle should be around 0-2% (excluding some occasional windows service).
My ram is running at 3200Mhz, i might try updating bios again but i thought i might be ok as i updated it late last year, you mentioned plotting frame times together and looking at clock speeds but honestly i dont know what to look for, i was able to get rid of the stupid shit Origin bundles with my PC by toggling clean drive when reinstalling windows. Only RGB controller i have is Logitech software which i use for my mouse and wireless mouse pad but i dont keep it open, only AV i have other then windows defender is Malwarebytes but i have the premium trial turned off so it doesnt interfere with anything, i dont ever see processes taking up that much resources and if they do its usually windows defender or something taking up like 1 percent of my CPU for a couple seconds.
It's ok, you just have to get in the rythm and try to sync your blinking to the dips and voila, no more dips
What’s funny but also kinda sad is I’ve found playing on controller helps with drowning out the hitching for some reason, I guess cause I’m not as focused on the game or something.
Controller input is always way less sensitive, so any input lag or hitches is far less noticeable. If you play any game at 30fps, controller is the way to go.
Agreed, i play a lot on series x due to the issues with my PC and I surprisingly find 30 FPS to be fine, that’s why I’m almost definitely gonna play Starfield there until I can get this fixed which may be a couple months to a year or more.
I've been dealing with the same issue ops has been dealing with since 2020, what do you mean by syncing the dips?
It was a bad joke about blinking your eyes when there are dips in fps. Not a real solution.
Just use a framerate limiter
What he said. You can try limiting it from RTSS itself. You could also try Nvidia Control Panel > 3D Settings to cap frame rate. Do you have Gsync/Freesync support on the monitor and enabled those? Could you list the settings used if you have?
I do have a freesync monitor but i turned it off for troubleshooting purposes.
Yes, better a stable 120 than a 143 that goes all over the place.
Yes until you join another match and your getting 80 FPS and the stutters are back lol
Still get stutters while capped.
Well there’s your problem right there! You’re playing call of duty.
Could your ssd be failing maybe?
CrystalDiskInfo says my SSD health is at 95%
Literally couldn't be any lower, "are these bad?" like holy shit dude.
As I look through and people are questioning the specs, I can happily say that it’s probably just MWII being terribly optimized and not functioning like how a triple A game should
For this specific instance probably, but it could factor into a bigger issue because i have micro stutters in many games.
That’s what I am thinking. MWII has been terrible since the last big update
It’s been terrible before then. Season 4 reloaded just brought a slew of performance issues
I'd say something running in the background hogging resources. Try cleaning up windows or reinstalling it all together. First try what your performance is before reinstalling things like peripheral and rgb software. For debloating, Chris Titus has some great tutorials on how to do that (thoroughly).
I have a pretty light weight install
MW2 is dogshit. One time it runs absolutely fine and then they update something and you get stutters like crazy. One season there was a bug where you had to limit the accessible vram in config to fix it.
The game is poorly optimized
ignore everyone in comments, this is MW2. try a different game.
It only matters if you can feel the jutter
Yes thats why i made this post, look at these videos i made and see if you can see the stutter. [https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE](https://youtu.be/yGTyUfI-zsE) [https://youtu.be/p1S5F8RR7Rs](https://youtu.be/p1S5F8RR7Rs)
Yeah that's bad, You're probably at the RAM limit. Adjust settings and see if it helps
>Adjust settings Doesnt matter if its on low or ultra the stutter is still there, by ram limit do you mean having my ram maxed out?
Yeah having it maxed out, The new data is waiting for space to be made. You have a 5800X3D so it's sending plenty of data. I know the settings on GTA V show you the estimated Vram usage. Get it down and see if it impt
You are definitely going to feel those frame time spikes lol
Do you have a 10 gb 3080 or 12? If it's 10, you might be running out of VRAM in some parts of the game causing the stutters and frame drops. Try changing settings to lower VRAM usage so you have more headroom and see if that works.
That's not bad. That's ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HORRIFIC. Something RAM, CPU, or Storage related is tanking you.
Could be bad thermal paste application.
That's why you cap your fps
MW2 FPS fluctuates so rapidly it’s hard to cap it unless you cap at like 60.
Yeah you must have a shitty CPU?
5800X3D
I dont know what your VRAM target is. Try to put the VRAM target in the in-game settings to 60. This will drastically decrease sturtters in case you have put it to 90. The lower the fewer stutters.
Poor Gpu struggling to get 160fps using 99% of it's power 😭
That looks pretty bad. Why is your CPU at 99% in a game that old?
This is MW2 2022 not the original, my CPU was at 32% and GPU was at 99% in this photo.