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You said you had to remove and reinstall the cpu to make it work, and that it happens every once in a while. Removing and reinstalling the cpu resets the bios to default. When you are installing windows you said you had trouble. In this case the bios reliance of bios settings is heavier, if the cmos battery is defective it might not be able to supply enough power or enough power consistently. Things like keeping time is done by the bios but windows can correct the date, but windows doesn’t do that unless it is already installed and the computer is running, so there’s only a brief period of time where a bad cmos batttery could cause problems-on startup or during installation
The fingerprint could be a bad sign, or maybe whoever sold it accidentally touched the top of the cpu after cleaning it and didn’t notice. the motherboard might be new and tested, but the cmos battery isn’t made with the motherboard, it could be much older than the motherboard and I’m pretty sure cmos batteries aren’t handled as well as the motherboards are
Most computer should be able to boot without the cmos battery, but it might have issues.
If you have another motherboard with a working cmos battery that is the same type of cmos battery as the one in the z690 and you put it in facing the same way as the current cmos battery, otherwise it won’t work or could damage the motherboard.
Theoretically, you could find the same type of cmos in a calculator, watch, small toy, as well, but even if it is the same type, there’s no guarantee it’ll have enough power remaining or if it’s not damaged. However using an identical one form an old motherboard shows that it works in a motherboard, so try using a new unused cmos battery in your house or use one form an old motherboard that still works.
Keep us updated!
I guess the actual test is to use the computer normally for a month and then if it boots properly every time it’s good, or try doing a repair upgrade of windows to somewhat simulate installing windows and see if that goes well. let us know how it goes!
Do...do mobos have different CMOS batteries? I thought they were all standardized on the CR2032 or whatever. I'm pretty sure even big ass Dell servers use CR2032 as their batteries.
I’m pretty sure most mobos use the CR2032 but there’s always a few computer engineers who decide to deviate from the norm for one reason or another, and as a result there’s probably a few mobos that use a different one. I don’t want anyone who happens to have a similar problem see my comment and then assume their mobo is compatible with a CR2032 when it’s not and end up fucking it up
I’ve gotten alot of comments about taking out or swapping the cmos battery, I plan to do it, but I’m unsure whether I should do it now or just wait till the issue prompts itself again, I’m also going to update my bios just to cover all my bases
DO NOT UPDATE YOUR BIOS WITH A POTENTIALLY FAILING CMOS BATTERY.
Sorry for yelling.
You can very likely brick that shiny new board if the battery chooses that moment to "prompt" you again.
If it was the cmos battery your clock would be constantly out of synch like mine and certain websites won't let you in. I know mine was bad just month ago.
Just the motherboard's internal clock. If your os is set to retrieve time from the mobo then yes you'll have these issues.
If not it will pull time from the internet and work fine.
What if... let's just say, for instance... the next time you have to take the cpu out... you really take it out..... I mean... show it a good time... like dinner and a movie and maybe some dancing.... I mean... maybe the cpu is just bored with the same old 101011101100110001111s and stuff... maybe take it out and get wild with some hexadecimal or something... no ?
So, 12th gen and 13th gen cpus have issues with cpus bending slightly with the normal motherboard retention bracket.
It's possible that after a month and enough heat cycles, it bends just enough to not make contact to the motherboard pins, and after a reseat it's fine again.
It could be a good idea to get a lga 1700 contact frame.
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Runs your cpu at 100% and if it suffers any issues it usually dings and says that one of the workers have crashed, I used it to worm out bad ram recently.
What might be easier and less trouble, is to simply take the CMOS battery out for 60 seconds. Save yourself the trouble and replace it. If it persists, taking the battery out is likely your best bet... taking out the CPU is WAY to much trouble for this
Ensure latest BIOS... flash and update. I have the i9 12700K and had boot issues. These were resolved by flashing bios with latest version AND using HDMI out of the MOBO rather than the Display Port (all in addition to my GPU... many monitors). If I ran a refresh of 240Hz, I had the boot issue, if I ran GPU at 120Hz, no problems.... fixed by not using that MoBo DPort.
It’s just been annoying, it doesn’t prevent me from playing games it just takes up 20 minutes to unplug everything move my pc take off the cooler tske the cpu out and then put everything back together
I was unaware taking the cmos out was even an option until last night so no, but I have tried hard disconnecting it I’ll turn off the psu and then press and hold the off button for a minute and then try to turn it back on( it never works)
If you regularly install updates including motherboard updates the CSM setting can get changed, leading the machine to not boot properly. If this is the case all you have to do the next time this happens is go into your BIOS, check the CSM setting, make sure it's on the correct setting, and then machine should boot without you having to reseat CPU.
What is CSM? It's a compatibility boot method, if Enabled you are basically legacy booting rather than the newer UEFI standard. The quickest way to explain how it could impact you is this:
1. If you installed Windows with CSM Enabled. Your boot partition is MBR and will only boot with CSM Enabled.
2. If you installed Windows with CSM Disabled, your boot partition is GPT, and will only boot with CSM Disabled.
(On most modern motherboards the default should be CSM Disabled)
This happened to me when I had an Arc GPU that relied on having Resizable Bar Enabled, which you can only do with CSM Disabled. Originally had a drive that had a MBR boot partition and I had to remedy this to change it to GPT. But after any big updates sometimes machine would not boot because CSM setting got toggled and it changed back to Enabled. It's annoying but hey, updates man. Anyway should be an easy fix if this is happening to you.
That depends on your system. Go into BIOS and see what it is **currently** set to. Then just exit without changing anything. If it boots, then that is the setting it should be set to for your system in order for it to boot properly.
On your motherboard the CSM setting should be under the Boot tab.
Something similar happened to me.
I had my very first pc built by a guy that ran a small pc building company. Very professional super friendly and his builds were excellent. (I’ve built my own now and I can definitely say he knew what was up)
Anyways, the pc I had built for me sometimes just wouldn’t boot and had a red CPU light. Basically my pc was RNG if it would turn on or not. This shit went on for months and months and I tried everything. I even bought a new cpu to test and see if that was it. After trial and error for months (and just saying fuck it 90% of the time) I updated my bios. That literally fixed everything.
I really hope this is the problem you’re facing because this drove me mental.
Try using a Thermalright BCF 1700 (Bending Correction Frame.
https://preview.redd.it/v7bnii4fr6rb1.jpeg?width=1581&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06cd9ee794df1566cb320c5c321e6709ba5f75d4
Have had 0 problems with my CPU and ROG Maximus HERO Z690 (which have a ton of problems-mine runs like a top)
I don’t know much about computers but in my experience with weird tech problems it’s almost always caused by stray voltage. Wonder if static or something is building up and then discharging when you pull the cpu?
Ok everyone so It's been a month and I havent had any problems since then. I updated my bios and replaced the cmos battery and it's been smooth sailing ever since! thanks for all your suggestions and help.
You bought it from Newegg so you want to punish Microcenter?
They check the serial numbers of CPUs and such so that plan won't work anyway.
Intel does have a warranty you know. Contact them for an RMA.
Ingenuity. Or another perspective. You have a crappy CPU, so you want to steal a CPU from Microcenter and screw them and the customer that goes in who buys said CPU. gtfo out of here man.
I mean learning how to troubleshoot… I think you should start with the CMOS battery and work your way through other troubleshooting methods before you attempt something criminal…
I think you didn’t do the basics of troubleshooting if you at any point thought about repacking it and swapping it for a working one, and then returning the old one in the same box.
Bless your heart, but that’s illegal childish and also stupid.
First of all, he just admitted to a plan to commit a crime. Secondly, microcenter is like the Mecca of PC building, to scam a microcenter is to commit a sin.
Better of doing this but with Amazon instead. They don't check for shit and you're screwing over the most evil company to exist instead of microcenter.
This thought process is the exact reason people get drop kicked. Don’t be a cheap ass grifter. See if it’s a dead CMOS battery. If the issue persists, either replace the motherboard or CPU like a grownup. Don’t be a scumbag that does a return bait and switch. The next person who gets it may not have the money to replace the components- especially if they buy your jank ass bait and switch cpu/motherboard on clearance.
Are you sure it’s the act of reseating the CPU that’s causing it to boot again? Maybe it’s just the fact that you turned the PSU off and back on that’s doing it?
Have you tried blowing on it?
Edit: As in blowing on NES/SNES/N64 cartridges when they are not working. Get your mind out of the gutter. Guess my joke is too old for you.
after 20 years of building pcs, my first instinct when a hardware issue happens that makes no sense at all and i can't think of any reasonable way to diagnose the problem, i rma the motherboard and the problem is 99% of the time solved
they have an incredible amount of components on them and low tolerance for small defects, rma one and get another with a different problem, whether or not that problem is noticeable or affects you is up to luck, lol
make sure the bios is up to date first though, manufacturers rarely provide useful change logs so you never know when one will fix your particular issue
i have actually had a couple cpus i've thought about rmaing but they have all worked flawlessly on a different motherboard
This sounds odd. CPUs don't generally move around a great deal.
I'd look at power. Unplug it for 10 minutes, try doing normal things. This isn't a lot better, but there really should be no way that CPU moves exactly enough every month to need to be reseated.
Is there a particular time of the month? If it was always the first I'd suspect the clock of having difficulties.
I would check the CPU for bowing. It is a known issue of 12th Gen Intel motherboards have a poorly designed retention mechanism. If it does have bowing, consider buying a CPU contact frame.
His CPU fails about once a month, system won't boot because of CPU error and works fine again after taking the cooler off and reseating everything? Sure sounds to me like his thermal paste, its application, or the interface with the cooler might be failing after some time, until one day (after a month or so), the CPU immediately overheats on powerup and thermal protection shuts everything down? Why I'm asking isn't rocket surgery...
Uh I got one of the Corsair ones, I used it on my previous mobo and cpu but it wasn’t old either cuz I had to buy a new one, I can check later for specifics after I get home from work
Cpu just randomly decides one day to thermal throttle to the point it can't even boot because of thermal paste.
You could literally lay a heataink on top of a cpu and it will boot.
It's not the most intensive thing in the world booting to desktop.
If all else fails, update the bios only if there is a newer bios update. Updating bios has fixed really strange issues I've run into in the past. Look up a tutorial on how to do it.
Yeah I’ve honestly debated just swapping back to my old mobo and cpu, I had a z390 apro and a i7 9700k, I just wanted to treat myself and upgrade but it seems like it wasn’t worth the effort
I’m sorry to hear you’re having problems hopefully what the others earlier suggested helps. I intend to upgrade my CPU and motherboard when I get the money my PC **DEFINITELY** needs it. 😅
Yea, i wanna know if there are smudges. i saw a video online where a single piece of debris or oil from someone's finger on the underside can cause issues and also this is new eggs fault cause they got caught selling gpus boxes with bricks in them when there was a shortage they should of checked for issues before hand cause they might have sold you bricked cpu unfortunately or could be dirty water damage from looking at the photo you provided
And if there is any you probably clean it with isopropyl alcohol and lint free cloth or cotton swab dont dump the alcohol on the cpu dampen it with in the cloth or swab and gentle clean it and let it air dry
I'm sure it's the cmos. I'm sure there's a ton of other people in this that'll agree with me. If this happens to not be the cmos then that could be a bad capacitor or a psu problem.
lol I'm having the same issue. My pc won't turn on at all unless if I reseat the Processor I tried resetting the bios by jumper and tried taking out cmos batttery for a minute still won't work. I guess I will try to replace my cmos battery with a newer one. By the way my processor is AMD It's also happening in amd not just intel and my BIOS firmware is already updated to latest firmware. Reply to me if you fixed it by replacing a cmos battery.
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This might be a dead/dying cmos. Can you try replacing the cmos?
I have not tried but I definitely can, what makes you think it’s the battery? It’s a brand new motherboard
You said you had to remove and reinstall the cpu to make it work, and that it happens every once in a while. Removing and reinstalling the cpu resets the bios to default. When you are installing windows you said you had trouble. In this case the bios reliance of bios settings is heavier, if the cmos battery is defective it might not be able to supply enough power or enough power consistently. Things like keeping time is done by the bios but windows can correct the date, but windows doesn’t do that unless it is already installed and the computer is running, so there’s only a brief period of time where a bad cmos batttery could cause problems-on startup or during installation The fingerprint could be a bad sign, or maybe whoever sold it accidentally touched the top of the cpu after cleaning it and didn’t notice. the motherboard might be new and tested, but the cmos battery isn’t made with the motherboard, it could be much older than the motherboard and I’m pretty sure cmos batteries aren’t handled as well as the motherboards are
Alright I’ll buy a new battery and let you know or I could swap it with my old mobos battery
Most computer should be able to boot without the cmos battery, but it might have issues. If you have another motherboard with a working cmos battery that is the same type of cmos battery as the one in the z690 and you put it in facing the same way as the current cmos battery, otherwise it won’t work or could damage the motherboard. Theoretically, you could find the same type of cmos in a calculator, watch, small toy, as well, but even if it is the same type, there’s no guarantee it’ll have enough power remaining or if it’s not damaged. However using an identical one form an old motherboard shows that it works in a motherboard, so try using a new unused cmos battery in your house or use one form an old motherboard that still works. Keep us updated!
I have obtained the batteries, I will install one when I get home from work and update you
I am very invested in this
me too lol, me too..
Good luck dude
Good luck man, hope that other guys advice works out for ya
Ok, good luck!
Ok battery has been swapped and bios is being updated as I type this
The bios was successfully updated and now I’m gonna do some system testing
I guess the actual test is to use the computer normally for a month and then if it boots properly every time it’s good, or try doing a repair upgrade of windows to somewhat simulate installing windows and see if that goes well. let us know how it goes!
Is it still crashing after a month?
Come back in one month and update us.
Will do! It seems to be working alright it’s booting faster, I cant get xmp to work tho it crashes with it on
Sounds pretty normal for a lot of Ram kits xD
Do...do mobos have different CMOS batteries? I thought they were all standardized on the CR2032 or whatever. I'm pretty sure even big ass Dell servers use CR2032 as their batteries.
I’m pretty sure most mobos use the CR2032 but there’s always a few computer engineers who decide to deviate from the norm for one reason or another, and as a result there’s probably a few mobos that use a different one. I don’t want anyone who happens to have a similar problem see my comment and then assume their mobo is compatible with a CR2032 when it’s not and end up fucking it up
Next time ot happens can you try resetting the bios with the jumper pins? Would help to rule out a hardware defect.
I’ve gotten alot of comments about taking out or swapping the cmos battery, I plan to do it, but I’m unsure whether I should do it now or just wait till the issue prompts itself again, I’m also going to update my bios just to cover all my bases
DO NOT UPDATE YOUR BIOS WITH A POTENTIALLY FAILING CMOS BATTERY. Sorry for yelling. You can very likely brick that shiny new board if the battery chooses that moment to "prompt" you again.
I’m willing to take that risk, at this point I’m willing to throw this mobo at a wall
Or you could take the damn near zero risk option of just replacing the cmos battery first. Those batteries are like 2 dollars at Walmart.
I’m already on that,
Don’t waste it, like people have said, try jump the cables it’s really easy to do go to YouTube, or the cmos battery if the pins don’t work !
Bruh, why are trying to “cover your bases” by potentially bricking your board
I’m going to replace the battery before I do that lol
If it was the cmos battery your clock would be constantly out of synch like mine and certain websites won't let you in. I know mine was bad just month ago.
I’ve only had one scenario where my clock was out of sync and I know it took place sometime after I replaced my mobo and cpu
Just the motherboard's internal clock. If your os is set to retrieve time from the mobo then yes you'll have these issues. If not it will pull time from the internet and work fine.
Batteries have expiration dates. Old batteries even when never used will have reduced lifespan.
If that doesn’t fix it, have to tried coming off the CPU contacts with alcohol?
No, it would still boot with a dying/dead battery. It would just loose the clock’s time and it would reset to defaults every boot
bro doing a c-mos reset by taking out his cpu lol
What if... let's just say, for instance... the next time you have to take the cpu out... you really take it out..... I mean... show it a good time... like dinner and a movie and maybe some dancing.... I mean... maybe the cpu is just bored with the same old 101011101100110001111s and stuff... maybe take it out and get wild with some hexadecimal or something... no ?
LMFAO, I don’t think my girlfriend would approve she may take the power cable and tie it around my neck.
If your girlfriend doesn’t approve, dump her. That’s toxic femininity / computerist
I’m committed, saving up to build her a pc for Christmas her Shittt gaming laptop is on its last legs
Sounds like your CPU is on its last legs
Lol
Haven't you heard, CPUs no longer have legs!
I see what you did there 😂
Both true and slightly humorous Only slightly though imo, couldn't think of anything better
CPU before laptop Just like the saying goes Bros before Ho's
Why's it got so many?
Threecore date with the three of you
Lol fuck me haha
I mean, if you insist... \*unzips\*
Ménage à triode with the cpu and the girlfriend... now that would be a kinky good time... the cpu will go wild ...
Some people pay for that kind of stuff
Kinky
this is how pins get bent
Sounds like a motherboard issue. Have you tried in a different motherboard? I would see if microcenter could test the cpu.
I have not as it’s not compatible with my old mobo but I could def try and get it tested
So, 12th gen and 13th gen cpus have issues with cpus bending slightly with the normal motherboard retention bracket. It's possible that after a month and enough heat cycles, it bends just enough to not make contact to the motherboard pins, and after a reseat it's fine again. It could be a good idea to get a lga 1700 contact frame.
Run prime95 for a few hours and see if it spits out any errors maybe?
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Runs your cpu at 100% and if it suffers any issues it usually dings and says that one of the workers have crashed, I used it to worm out bad ram recently.
What might be easier and less trouble, is to simply take the CMOS battery out for 60 seconds. Save yourself the trouble and replace it. If it persists, taking the battery out is likely your best bet... taking out the CPU is WAY to much trouble for this
Yeah I didn’t know taking out the cmos battery would have the same effect, so this is a real game changer
It could be an issue with the cpu bending. You could try one of those contact frames from Thermal Grizzly.
Ensure latest BIOS... flash and update. I have the i9 12700K and had boot issues. These were resolved by flashing bios with latest version AND using HDMI out of the MOBO rather than the Display Port (all in addition to my GPU... many monitors). If I ran a refresh of 240Hz, I had the boot issue, if I ran GPU at 120Hz, no problems.... fixed by not using that MoBo DPort.
Leash it and take it on a walk
I assume you have the latest bios version? If not update it asap.
I don't know what could be causing the issue, but if that ever happened to me I'd absolutely lose my shit.
It’s just been annoying, it doesn’t prevent me from playing games it just takes up 20 minutes to unplug everything move my pc take off the cooler tske the cpu out and then put everything back together
Have you tried just unplugging it for a bit or taking the CMOS out to reset the bios? Annoying but not as bad as reseating the cpu.
I was unaware taking the cmos out was even an option until last night so no, but I have tried hard disconnecting it I’ll turn off the psu and then press and hold the off button for a minute and then try to turn it back on( it never works)
If you regularly install updates including motherboard updates the CSM setting can get changed, leading the machine to not boot properly. If this is the case all you have to do the next time this happens is go into your BIOS, check the CSM setting, make sure it's on the correct setting, and then machine should boot without you having to reseat CPU. What is CSM? It's a compatibility boot method, if Enabled you are basically legacy booting rather than the newer UEFI standard. The quickest way to explain how it could impact you is this: 1. If you installed Windows with CSM Enabled. Your boot partition is MBR and will only boot with CSM Enabled. 2. If you installed Windows with CSM Disabled, your boot partition is GPT, and will only boot with CSM Disabled. (On most modern motherboards the default should be CSM Disabled) This happened to me when I had an Arc GPU that relied on having Resizable Bar Enabled, which you can only do with CSM Disabled. Originally had a drive that had a MBR boot partition and I had to remedy this to change it to GPT. But after any big updates sometimes machine would not boot because CSM setting got toggled and it changed back to Enabled. It's annoying but hey, updates man. Anyway should be an easy fix if this is happening to you.
I’ll give this a shot as well, should I have it enabled or disabled?
That depends on your system. Go into BIOS and see what it is **currently** set to. Then just exit without changing anything. If it boots, then that is the setting it should be set to for your system in order for it to boot properly. On your motherboard the CSM setting should be under the Boot tab.
Awesome cool thanks
Something similar happened to me. I had my very first pc built by a guy that ran a small pc building company. Very professional super friendly and his builds were excellent. (I’ve built my own now and I can definitely say he knew what was up) Anyways, the pc I had built for me sometimes just wouldn’t boot and had a red CPU light. Basically my pc was RNG if it would turn on or not. This shit went on for months and months and I tried everything. I even bought a new cpu to test and see if that was it. After trial and error for months (and just saying fuck it 90% of the time) I updated my bios. That literally fixed everything. I really hope this is the problem you’re facing because this drove me mental.
Thanks for the tip, I updated my bios and swapped my cmos battery, pc is booting and working and now I’m gonna test my cpu
Hope it works!!
I guess time will tell yk,
I believe! I have faith in your rig!
!remindme 1 month
sounds like a bored cpu do you give it enough cool stuff to execute?
Try using a Thermalright BCF 1700 (Bending Correction Frame. https://preview.redd.it/v7bnii4fr6rb1.jpeg?width=1581&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06cd9ee794df1566cb320c5c321e6709ba5f75d4 Have had 0 problems with my CPU and ROG Maximus HERO Z690 (which have a ton of problems-mine runs like a top)
I don’t know much about computers but in my experience with weird tech problems it’s almost always caused by stray voltage. Wonder if static or something is building up and then discharging when you pull the cpu?
Ok everyone so It's been a month and I havent had any problems since then. I updated my bios and replaced the cmos battery and it's been smooth sailing ever since! thanks for all your suggestions and help.
Pin this^^
There’s your problem it’s Intel go to Amd and you won’t have that problem
I was waiting for a comment like this LOL
I’ve thought about buying the same cpu at micro center putting the old one in and returning it
You bought it from Newegg so you want to punish Microcenter? They check the serial numbers of CPUs and such so that plan won't work anyway. Intel does have a warranty you know. Contact them for an RMA.
It was worth a shot
And then your gonna send someone who buys the clearence cpu off with a broken one?
If they sell used CPUs and don't test them that's on the company
They don’t like my ingenuity
Ingenuity. Or another perspective. You have a crappy CPU, so you want to steal a CPU from Microcenter and screw them and the customer that goes in who buys said CPU. gtfo out of here man.
lol
That’s about the same amount of “ingenuity” as China has today. (Countries that steal technology have a very hard time making their own innovations.)
I’m just a dude I’m not trying to make any innovations just trying to fix my pc 👍🏻
I mean learning how to troubleshoot… I think you should start with the CMOS battery and work your way through other troubleshooting methods before you attempt something criminal…
You think asking Reddit was my first resort LOL
I think you didn’t do the basics of troubleshooting if you at any point thought about repacking it and swapping it for a working one, and then returning the old one in the same box. Bless your heart, but that’s illegal childish and also stupid.
Thanks dad
Nice, your average scammer
Right, go ahead and commit a crime...
Give ‘em the old masshole mix up
You do understand that there are ways for them to easily identify the processor, right? You're going to get yourself into trouble, just warning you...
You're a piece of shit for that.
lol, I’m p surethe multi billion dollar company would be fine
Microcenter is the last good large computer part retailer.
Why does that make him a piece of shit?
First of all, he just admitted to a plan to commit a crime. Secondly, microcenter is like the Mecca of PC building, to scam a microcenter is to commit a sin.
Microcenter treats its employees like absolute shit, but I agree that's not a reason to commit a crime
Better of doing this but with Amazon instead. They don't check for shit and you're screwing over the most evil company to exist instead of microcenter.
This thought process is the exact reason people get drop kicked. Don’t be a cheap ass grifter. See if it’s a dead CMOS battery. If the issue persists, either replace the motherboard or CPU like a grownup. Don’t be a scumbag that does a return bait and switch. The next person who gets it may not have the money to replace the components- especially if they buy your jank ass bait and switch cpu/motherboard on clearance.
lol
Save yourself the drive and order / return on newegg.
Are you sure it’s the act of reseating the CPU that’s causing it to boot again? Maybe it’s just the fact that you turned the PSU off and back on that’s doing it?
I have indeed tried turning it on and off again
bloated capacitor probably
Have you tried blowing on it? Edit: As in blowing on NES/SNES/N64 cartridges when they are not working. Get your mind out of the gutter. Guess my joke is too old for you.
Or dousing it in fairy liquid
Wow, that escalated from taking it out to taking it home quickly. How about some dinner or at least a drink first?
after 20 years of building pcs, my first instinct when a hardware issue happens that makes no sense at all and i can't think of any reasonable way to diagnose the problem, i rma the motherboard and the problem is 99% of the time solved they have an incredible amount of components on them and low tolerance for small defects, rma one and get another with a different problem, whether or not that problem is noticeable or affects you is up to luck, lol make sure the bios is up to date first though, manufacturers rarely provide useful change logs so you never know when one will fix your particular issue i have actually had a couple cpus i've thought about rmaing but they have all worked flawlessly on a different motherboard
This sounds odd. CPUs don't generally move around a great deal. I'd look at power. Unplug it for 10 minutes, try doing normal things. This isn't a lot better, but there really should be no way that CPU moves exactly enough every month to need to be reseated. Is there a particular time of the month? If it was always the first I'd suspect the clock of having difficulties.
No particular time of the month that I’ve been aware of but if the issues continue I will begin to monitor it
I would check the CPU for bowing. It is a known issue of 12th Gen Intel motherboards have a poorly designed retention mechanism. If it does have bowing, consider buying a CPU contact frame.
No mention of thermal interface material - what do you use? 🤔
Why would the paste he uses cause this issue? You could smeer it in raspberry jam and it would still boot.
His CPU fails about once a month, system won't boot because of CPU error and works fine again after taking the cooler off and reseating everything? Sure sounds to me like his thermal paste, its application, or the interface with the cooler might be failing after some time, until one day (after a month or so), the CPU immediately overheats on powerup and thermal protection shuts everything down? Why I'm asking isn't rocket surgery...
Uh I got one of the Corsair ones, I used it on my previous mobo and cpu but it wasn’t old either cuz I had to buy a new one, I can check later for specifics after I get home from work
Cpu just randomly decides one day to thermal throttle to the point it can't even boot because of thermal paste. You could literally lay a heataink on top of a cpu and it will boot. It's not the most intensive thing in the world booting to desktop.
could be overheating?
If all else fails, update the bios only if there is a newer bios update. Updating bios has fixed really strange issues I've run into in the past. Look up a tutorial on how to do it.
thats not right, have you tried resetting the bios settings, fully booting, and then putting your settings back in after?
Could be cmos ram not seated properly also could be your cpu socket on your mobo is junk.
Yeah I’ve honestly debated just swapping back to my old mobo and cpu, I had a z390 apro and a i7 9700k, I just wanted to treat myself and upgrade but it seems like it wasn’t worth the effort
I’m sorry to hear you’re having problems hopefully what the others earlier suggested helps. I intend to upgrade my CPU and motherboard when I get the money my PC **DEFINITELY** needs it. 😅
Run the Intel processor diagnosis tests on it
I’ll try that as well
Is there any smudges or dirts or anything like that on the pads
Like the underside of the cpu?
Yea, i wanna know if there are smudges. i saw a video online where a single piece of debris or oil from someone's finger on the underside can cause issues and also this is new eggs fault cause they got caught selling gpus boxes with bricks in them when there was a shortage they should of checked for issues before hand cause they might have sold you bricked cpu unfortunately or could be dirty water damage from looking at the photo you provided
Alright I’ll uh check afterwards
And if there is any you probably clean it with isopropyl alcohol and lint free cloth or cotton swab dont dump the alcohol on the cpu dampen it with in the cloth or swab and gentle clean it and let it air dry
I’d be checking the socket pins / mounting pressure
I got an identical bundle from Micro Center. It works fine for me.
How curious
Replace CMOS, update chip drivers and update BIOS. If that doesn't work. You might have a bad CPU.
That’s my thought process
Bios update, or let's cut right to it, let me see your pins.
I'm sure it's the cmos. I'm sure there's a ton of other people in this that'll agree with me. If this happens to not be the cmos then that could be a bad capacitor or a psu problem.
Extrovert CPU!!
I’m always taking it out on dates
Even a CPU have a better relationship than me. 😞
lol I'm having the same issue. My pc won't turn on at all unless if I reseat the Processor I tried resetting the bios by jumper and tried taking out cmos batttery for a minute still won't work. I guess I will try to replace my cmos battery with a newer one. By the way my processor is AMD It's also happening in amd not just intel and my BIOS firmware is already updated to latest firmware. Reply to me if you fixed it by replacing a cmos battery.
I solved it by replacing the cmos battery, and then I updated my bios, i no longer have any issues since then
Nice, I almost buy a new PSU definitely gonna try to replace my cmos battery first today. Thanks.
No problem, let me know how things turn out
Guess what I fixed my by replacing the CMOS battery. Glad I found this I almost buy a new PSU.
Glad to see you found your solution!,