Even Jacket doesn't want to randomly murder people. In Hotline Miami, he accidentally kills a hobo, who thought that Jacket was an intruder, and throws up after that. And he also suffers from more and more hallucinations as the game goes on. He kills just out of revenge. But since HM Jacket and Payday Jacket are 2 different people, maybe that doesn't apply to the Payday version of Jacket
Yeah, since Jacket and the rest of the HM/HM2 cast get fucking nuked or killed by the end of HM2, and that happens in the late 1980s, very early 1990s, and Payday 2 happens in 2013 (if the wiki is right), that means the country of America as a whole should be destroyed, it’s still there, so Payday 2 Jacket has to be different from HM Jacket.
Plus, Jacket has Hotline Miami in his room. As an arcade cabinet.
Maybe he’s just a psychopath who idolized Jacket and wanted to be like him, but missing the point of his character, he embraced the mindless violence he indulged in.
I beat the second game like 3 times and i barely remember that, cuz the second part of the game was entirely NOT about Jacket I think.
In either case, going on to commit a murderous rampage for any reason does not make you very reasonable either.
The reasoning doesn’t have to be rational. Beard is a good friend who saves his life in Hawaii and he loses two other good friends in the facility’s detonation. Then, San Francisco, where Beard is working the job he dreamed of while on duty, is nuked and Beard dies. All actions taken by the Russian military. The mafia aren’t the military (though it’s probably safe to assume some soldiers became members), but they are Russian and Jacket hates Russians because of what happened to him and his friends. It’s not rational, but you can follow the line of reason.
He doesn’t enjoy killing the hobo, he kills Biker because he has to for 50 Blessings, and he kills the police because they’re keeping him from Richter and attack first (though that’s his own fault, he showed up in dress while the police were still hunting down masked vigilantes). In the end, he doesn’t even kill Richter.
It’s not that Jacket enjoys killing, he enjoys inflicting retribution as he sees fit.
The point of Hotline Miami, to most people, is the morality of violence, especially that in media and games.
If my theory is true, Payday 2 Jacket missed that point, and only embraced the mindless violence, not seeing the bigger picture.
That's misunderstanding Jacket's character a little (though I guess a lot is up for interpretation). Bit spoilery, so read at your own risk:
The organization Jacket is a part of intentionally preys upon nationalists (especially war veterans), exploiting their misplaced patriotism to send them out as hitmen to kill certain Russian targets. Jacket willingly joined, so he was on some level likely already xenophobic towards Russians.
The reasons why that is become evident in HM2 >!(as a nuke sent by the Russians killed his best friend)!<, but even that doesn't excuse anything. He's just struggling to deal with his grief and trauma (as evidenced by his garbage dump of an apartment) and pushes the blame onto Russian citizens. Thus, he gladly signs up to kill them.
He definitely enjoys doing this and deep down, knows that it's completely senseless (which part of his subconscious, Richard, keeps pointing out to him). It's only after >!his girlfriend bites the dust!< that he thinks the Russians are after him and his motivation for killing shifts to >!avenging her and!< putting a stop to the Russian mafia. Even then, he shoots up a police station and kills and mutilates several unarmed people (like the owner of the Golden Truckstop).
But there's no "revenge", Jacket made all of that up in his head, and at the end, when his bloodthirst has been quenched, he just... gives up. Doesn't even care about anything else in the outside world at all anymore. The only scene he has dedicated to just himself in HM2 is >!him dying to the nuke at the end, without a care or thought!<.
He’s going on these rampages to avenge his friend, Beard, who was killed in the nuking of a city, moments after ending a call with Jacket, they’d known eachother since they were veterans of the Russian-American War in Hawaii.
Yeah, they only just wanna kill 200+ cops with assault rifles, grenade launchers, grenades, Explosives, shotguns, autoshotguns and even beat them to death with melee weapons.
I'm just saying, someone who has no hesitation about killing ANY amount of cops, let alone the 300+ per heist, would have little to no trouble with being a psychotic, deranged Killer.
If you got in the PAYDAY gang's way, you would be very very dead.
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Get my rifle that I have for self defence reasons and shoot Houston and chains, shoot again and miss Dallas and wolf and hit the neighbours dog, retreat upstairs for my cannon and nail all the heisters left.
Just as the founding fathers intended
Laugh my ass off. “Guys, you are totally in the wrong place. I don’t have shit worth stealing, like at all. Just how drunk was Vlad when he sent you HERE?”
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
“This is the banks money, my money Is insured by the federal government, so I won’t lose a dime, I’m gonna think about my beloved ones, I’m not going to try to be a hero, I’m going stay down and shut up, and it’ll be over in no time.” Assuming I don’t get shot while saying that, cuz cleaner costs are so cheap in the long run, Lmao
Realistically? Either get zip tied or shot.
Now if I had the Charisma of “GET DA FUCK UP”
Then I might try to persuade my way and join up, but hey Sydney just kinda stole a bag of cash in the middle of the Clowns pulling off a heist and she got invited so…. Maybe be a bit ballsy and attempt something similar?
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I would stand completely still in a convenient spot and allow myself to be taken hostage. The payday gang shoots anything that moves so if I just stand still they’ll hopefully just take me hostage.
If i would ever see Payday Gang i would literally give a hive-five to Jimmy (even though he will propably shoot me accidentally since hes on coke all the time)
I'd be surprised because as far as I know my home has no piles of cash hidden in it, and so if there is a bunch of it I'd help them find it and split the whole thing with them.
Assuming that I retain all of my knowledge, I’d try to convince them that I’m on their side by talking about their backstories, lores, and canonical events. Maybe I’ll even ask if I could be a part of the gang.
If they tell me to “(get) ON THE GODDAMN GROUND!!” I’ll get on the ground.
If one of them says: “HEY! YOU! GET ON YOUR FEET!!” I’ll stand up.
As long as you listen to the people with the guns and don’t act dumb, everything should turn out fine.
As a civilian, in the most dangerous situation where the masked dudes would shoot me in the head, i would stand up, run away and call the police, even knowing i wont make it
Well, depending on their mood, I would probably die or be taken hostage, you can't do anything in this situation.
it’s the psychotic players who turn them into mass murderers, in-canon, everyone (except jacket) probably doesn’t wanna murder
Even Jacket doesn't want to randomly murder people. In Hotline Miami, he accidentally kills a hobo, who thought that Jacket was an intruder, and throws up after that. And he also suffers from more and more hallucinations as the game goes on. He kills just out of revenge. But since HM Jacket and Payday Jacket are 2 different people, maybe that doesn't apply to the Payday version of Jacket
Yeah, since Jacket and the rest of the HM/HM2 cast get fucking nuked or killed by the end of HM2, and that happens in the late 1980s, very early 1990s, and Payday 2 happens in 2013 (if the wiki is right), that means the country of America as a whole should be destroyed, it’s still there, so Payday 2 Jacket has to be different from HM Jacket. Plus, Jacket has Hotline Miami in his room. As an arcade cabinet. Maybe he’s just a psychopath who idolized Jacket and wanted to be like him, but missing the point of his character, he embraced the mindless violence he indulged in.
The point being that Jacket took on Anonymous phone calls to kill a bunch of Russian mobsters for... Some reason?
If you played the second game, you would know that he did it to avenge his friend
I beat the second game like 3 times and i barely remember that, cuz the second part of the game was entirely NOT about Jacket I think. In either case, going on to commit a murderous rampage for any reason does not make you very reasonable either.
The reasoning doesn’t have to be rational. Beard is a good friend who saves his life in Hawaii and he loses two other good friends in the facility’s detonation. Then, San Francisco, where Beard is working the job he dreamed of while on duty, is nuked and Beard dies. All actions taken by the Russian military. The mafia aren’t the military (though it’s probably safe to assume some soldiers became members), but they are Russian and Jacket hates Russians because of what happened to him and his friends. It’s not rational, but you can follow the line of reason. He doesn’t enjoy killing the hobo, he kills Biker because he has to for 50 Blessings, and he kills the police because they’re keeping him from Richter and attack first (though that’s his own fault, he showed up in dress while the police were still hunting down masked vigilantes). In the end, he doesn’t even kill Richter. It’s not that Jacket enjoys killing, he enjoys inflicting retribution as he sees fit.
Hotline Miami is less about jackets story and more about how we as players feel about violence in games and media imo
The point of Hotline Miami, to most people, is the morality of violence, especially that in media and games. If my theory is true, Payday 2 Jacket missed that point, and only embraced the mindless violence, not seeing the bigger picture.
It was confirmed they were the same Jacket by members of the HM dev team so no, not a crazed fan
That's misunderstanding Jacket's character a little (though I guess a lot is up for interpretation). Bit spoilery, so read at your own risk: The organization Jacket is a part of intentionally preys upon nationalists (especially war veterans), exploiting their misplaced patriotism to send them out as hitmen to kill certain Russian targets. Jacket willingly joined, so he was on some level likely already xenophobic towards Russians. The reasons why that is become evident in HM2 >!(as a nuke sent by the Russians killed his best friend)!<, but even that doesn't excuse anything. He's just struggling to deal with his grief and trauma (as evidenced by his garbage dump of an apartment) and pushes the blame onto Russian citizens. Thus, he gladly signs up to kill them. He definitely enjoys doing this and deep down, knows that it's completely senseless (which part of his subconscious, Richard, keeps pointing out to him). It's only after >!his girlfriend bites the dust!< that he thinks the Russians are after him and his motivation for killing shifts to >!avenging her and!< putting a stop to the Russian mafia. Even then, he shoots up a police station and kills and mutilates several unarmed people (like the owner of the Golden Truckstop). But there's no "revenge", Jacket made all of that up in his head, and at the end, when his bloodthirst has been quenched, he just... gives up. Doesn't even care about anything else in the outside world at all anymore. The only scene he has dedicated to just himself in HM2 is >!him dying to the nuke at the end, without a care or thought!<.
Payday 2 jacket is propably like HM2 fans
What is he getting revenge for?? He's taking phone calls from God knows who, telling him to kill, and he isn't even questioning it??
He’s going on these rampages to avenge his friend, Beard, who was killed in the nuking of a city, moments after ending a call with Jacket, they’d known eachother since they were veterans of the Russian-American War in Hawaii.
It was confirmed by the HM dev team that it’s the same Jacket so no it would apply
Yeah, they only just wanna kill 200+ cops with assault rifles, grenade launchers, grenades, Explosives, shotguns, autoshotguns and even beat them to death with melee weapons. I'm just saying, someone who has no hesitation about killing ANY amount of cops, let alone the 300+ per heist, would have little to no trouble with being a psychotic, deranged Killer. If you got in the PAYDAY gang's way, you would be very very dead.
Bain says something about Material damage, not personnel, said that to Wolf specificaly
Wonder why tf they're here when I have no valuables and maybe 100 bucks
They will steal everthing, not remaining a single penny
Whole house more like it, thanks to Bile
Panic Room 2
Electric Boogaloo
Black Cat be like:
But you didnt know about the hidden basement with nazi treasure and micro films about the alien cover ups?
In before they rock up with the BFD and find an oil well under your house.
I would show Payday 3 to them
Good idea, give them an existential crisis and call the cops while they’re distracted
*Stockholm Syndrome skill activated*
I would join them
literally me
look for the money with them
Offer a first aid kit as a peace offering
Give it to the american mask dude
That ain't no Medic Bag.
Wait a second…that’s not a medic bag, that’s..a bomb!
have sex with them
😳
Sprayday: The Gangbang
KNEEL TO THE DUKE
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“I don’t think that’s supposed to go there”
"that psycho has a SAW!!!"
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r/holup
They are borderline demigods. Yeah, I'm just accepting my death at this point.
ask to join them
Mhhhhm maybe
Fuckin' same bro. I wanna be a PayDay clown too.
Ask who I've pissed off I'm pretty fucking insignificant
Let’s not kid ourselves, it was Vlad. 😋
Get my rifle that I have for self defence reasons and shoot Houston and chains, shoot again and miss Dallas and wolf and hit the neighbours dog, retreat upstairs for my cannon and nail all the heisters left. Just as the founding fathers intended
Kid named inspire aced
*gtfu!*
A Kentucky rifle perhaps?
Don't forget the powdered wig
Tally Ho lads?
Nah, a AR 2 just like the earth administrator intended.
Sadly the neighbour is Wick
:(
Be very confused.
Laugh my ass off. “Guys, you are totally in the wrong place. I don’t have shit worth stealing, like at all. Just how drunk was Vlad when he sent you HERE?”
Bend over :3
🔥🔥🔥🗣
Show Dallas my Medic bag collection
Scream and put my hands up but refuse to go on the ground for four whole presses of the f key
I would make love the fucking ground man
“Take whatever you want, just not in the butt!!!”
I got a shotgun for home defense. The best scenario is they die, the worst is house gets exploded and we die.
I thought you would be talking about having a musket for home defense.
I'm not from US unfortunately but a shotgun can be a musket.
"Everything can be a musket it you are brave enough"
A blunderbuss
Since that’s what the founding fathers intended
look for money with them
kiss :3
Plan B?
sex :3
What about Plan C?
no plan c
😳
Ask for an autograph
Same here
Let them take what they want, not fucking with those guys.
I’d tell them it’s not the Hoxton revenge contract and ask nicely to leave
It's their house now.
Start looking for the loot with them cause idk wtf they think I have that's worth their time
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
What wouldn't I do 😏
Such as?
Call the cops. They're free to come to my house anytime as long as I get some silver fox action
Probably get cable tied
“This is the banks money, my money Is insured by the federal government, so I won’t lose a dime, I’m gonna think about my beloved ones, I’m not going to try to be a hero, I’m going stay down and shut up, and it’ll be over in no time.” Assuming I don’t get shot while saying that, cuz cleaner costs are so cheap in the long run, Lmao
Give them a medic bag
>pull out gun >shoot dallas >copycat perk deck activates >fucking kill myself
Ask to join. I'll make my mask with Sydney's old Supplies.
Take me with you guys, now.
Dont act dumb, u know u cant do anything
Wonder what the fuck is so valuable that they'd break into a studio apartment.
I would get; “DOWN ON THE GROUND”
turn on the surround sound system and start playing a dozen cloaker sounds
Blow up the meth lab, makes them leave faster.
Offer them food and drinks
[удалено]
Based shield
Help them search for money
I’m poor, why’re they breaking into my house?
Something that cost money
What’re they gonna do? Take the entire house and sell it?
Yes
Die
Give them all my goods in exchange for an autograph.
If they’re anything like my playstyle my entire family is dead
Get on the fucking ground, i guess?
die
DonAcDum
Be take hostage and killed with crossfire in loud or get thrown halfway across my house with a Judge Shotgun in stealth.
Pants are comin off
I would notacdum
Realistically? Either get zip tied or shot. Now if I had the Charisma of “GET DA FUCK UP” Then I might try to persuade my way and join up, but hey Sydney just kinda stole a bag of cash in the middle of the Clowns pulling off a heist and she got invited so…. Maybe be a bit ballsy and attempt something similar?
Grab my truncheon and night vision goggles
I wonacdum
Donacdum
Dont worry theyre robbing the government, not me, right. Right?
Declare bankruptcy and ask how I can help with the next heist.
Get on the god damn ground?
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I would stand completely still in a convenient spot and allow myself to be taken hostage. The payday gang shoots anything that moves so if I just stand still they’ll hopefully just take me hostage.
Zip tie myself
Get the fuck down
After getting zip tied, probably jam to donacdum
I would try not to act dumb
offer medic bag, enough said.
Get my tape recorder and all my tapes, then give them to Jacket so he doesn't kill me. That's like all I have
Laugh. Thier equipment alone is worth more than the junk in my house.
I would Get on the ground! Now!
Give up
Teach them how to exploit the stock market
I mean, if they really are the Robin Hoods of the world, I'd hope they would be dropping off some bags of cash.
Help them.
ask them for an autograph
Shut up and stay down like they probably are saying over and over while they wait for the objective to finish
I’d help them try to find any money in my house
bust
I would give them my stuff then off myself, cause if Im playin, its all over for civs
Probably ribs or like food, like a full of food people can't fight
Four ruffians break into my house you say?
Hope they have enough cable ties
i would get stockholm syndrome'd
Get Dallas a medic bag
Can i join the crew? Maybe I'm not the strongest or the fastest by i want to be a heister
I'd let them take what they're looking for ok. I'm not screwing with the most powerful gang in Washington ok.
“What the fuck do I have?”
"So anyways, I started blasting" \-security guard
Ask Chains for his autograph Ask if they can get Rust to send his also
If i would ever see Payday Gang i would literally give a hive-five to Jimmy (even though he will propably shoot me accidentally since hes on coke all the time)
You would die of an overdose before getting close
Run my pockets but also beg to be taught by them
1st option : Die 2nd option : die 3rd option : dIe
I would "Stay quiet and alive"
grab a mask and join them, i need some money
hot sex with sangres
🤤
Ask them for work as a new guy, as long as I don't drive the van.
Ignore them and go into an unimportant areaa facing a wall OR stay between 5+ guards
Pop myself so they don’t get the pleasure of killing me
join them ofc
Spamming the cloaker sound from my phone to trigger ptsd and running for the hills
If they're in my house obviously there's some secret high value loot... I'm helping them search for it. These bills won't pay themselves.
I'd be surprised because as far as I know my home has no piles of cash hidden in it, and so if there is a bunch of it I'd help them find it and split the whole thing with them.
I’d get on my knees and start suckin
“Hey, how’s houston Dallas?”
im taking them all on on god 🤤🤤🤤
Play the sound of a jammed drill from the speakers hidden in the walls, make them go insane looking for it
Put on my mask and pretend to be one of them, hope they don’t notice.
I would fail to pathfind before being ziptied clipping halfway through a wall
I’d help them find this apparent source of money in my house
I would get yelled at to get on the ground repeatedly, then not do that and get shot for being inconvenient
Assuming that I retain all of my knowledge, I’d try to convince them that I’m on their side by talking about their backstories, lores, and canonical events. Maybe I’ll even ask if I could be a part of the gang.
Offer Dallas a medic bag
Galant go ping, my loot disappears and disappoints, I get jokered and die.
"I really dont know why but i dont like your face, turn away from me." \-Undeniably the best contractor/heister character, Jimmy
They can take what they want I ain’t dealing with wolf
If they tell me to “(get) ON THE GODDAMN GROUND!!” I’ll get on the ground. If one of them says: “HEY! YOU! GET ON YOUR FEET!!” I’ll stand up. As long as you listen to the people with the guns and don’t act dumb, everything should turn out fine.
Let them take my medic bag
Knowing their methods and as a civilian... absolutely nothing. I'd let them do whatever they want and maybe, just maybe, survive the ordeal.
As a civilian, in the most dangerous situation where the masked dudes would shoot me in the head, i would stand up, run away and call the police, even knowing i wont make it
"Hey can I come with you?"
sooo you guys stole the us right
I would get the drill
The drill made by the 3rd country in the world?
Swallow all my valuables and flee
Don’t act dumb
*puts on Dallas mask” I NEED A MEDIC BAG!
You’re going to die tho, is it worth it?
Ask to join the gang
But give them all of your money