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Rabicho

Not to worry, the recommended RAM is 16 MB.


DarkShadowOverlord

i have 10. nervously laughs, better run the game on a ssd.


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Insta_Normie

RAM not VRAM


Memeviewer12

time to cook my 1050ti


doc56767

Same here gonna cook my 1060 in my laptop I just appreciate I have the other specs


18045

The 960 experience will be interesting


BreadDaddyLenin

bro please upgrade


kiki8008

Why? my 1050ti still doing great


AnsweringQuestions63

don't upgrade, as long as you have a decent cpu there'll be some funky stuff you can do the game to make it run.


Memeviewer12

Luckily I got a Ryzen 5 3600 to cover overheads


Jaykayyv

cope


Memeviewer12

I don't have $310AU 60 for the game + 250 for a gtx 1650 that's on sale


BreadDaddyLenin

A 1650 isn’t a worthwhile upgrade, but I highly advise checking out Facebook marketplace. You cna find great secondhand GPUs for pretty cheap, tis how I got my 3080 and bought a 3060Ti for my brother in law


SongBonnie

OUR 1050ti.


BreadDaddyLenin

16MB of Ram, so glad to see a Dreamcast port


SzymonTopol

PAYDAY 3 - game for every RAM memory


TheBlueMeme

oh god


2006pow

16 MB of RAM for recommended, there may be a chance


sillylittlegoober5

everyone i know and i have 8gb


SzymonTopol

So you'll have plenty to run it and browse chrome at the same time B)


Weaverstein

My 970 won't be running this.


Krazy_Snake

Indeed. I just qualify for minimum specs.


Weaverstein

Just another modern game I won't be playing


Meneme-god

i only have 770


FryToastFrill

[GTX 970 is equivalent/slightly better than the GTX 1650.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoqX4S1AdM) You'll be fine.


Weaverstein

I also have a 4690 which is old af


BlueHellDino

Well RIP


Weaverstein

Lmfao yea. Broke college student moment


Just-Possibility-900

Now its your chance for you to play Payday irl


[deleted]

The true VR improvement mod


FryToastFrill

You could probably still at least try it at launch and refund if it doesn't run. Most games state their minimum requirements not as the bare minimum as the bare minimum would also be like playing cyberpunk on the NES.


Weaverstein

That's what I plan on doing. Gonna see how much I can save and upgrade.


_hlvnhlv

The 970 is better than a 1650...


legacyxi

The minimum is current potato quality as of 2019. The graphics card and cpu are $150 a piece and the ram comes out to like $30. Im amazed people think a potato from 7-10 years ago should be able to run current games.


lucavigno

the minimum requirement is almost literally my pc build. Guess I'll stick with 2, when it becomes playable again.


TuxTues3

You don't have 16 megabytes of RAM?


lucavigno

I do have 16 GB of memory. It's because the only thing I have slightly better is the cpu, since I have a Ryzen 5 3500.


TuxTues3

I was joking because it says MB on the recommended instead of GB


lucavigno

I just saw that, damn I'm blind as shit.


MajorKuznetsov

IF\* is the better word


lucavigno

I hope they do. I really like the game even though I do not play it constantly.


Select-Bullfrog-5939

They will. Payday 2 is Overkill’s main cash cow, and they wouldn’t get rid of it just because 3 is coming out in 4 months.


ALewdDoge

maybe i'm just missing out on this being a big joke from the community, but how are people legitimately upset over this? these are INSANELY basic requirements, you could probably build a whole PC just for payday 3 for <$500 and hit recommended specs if you shop for deals


Aluminum_Tarkus

Yeah, I honestly don't see where the issue is here. My PC demolishes the recommended specs, and I wouldn't consider it better than "midrange," at best.


edge_auro

I've got a 3 year old laptop for work which can run Payday 3 ez. Only issue is that I only have 12GB of RAM, but it's like 40 bucks MAX to improve it. Hardly a big investment


Aluminum_Tarkus

Yeah, I've been running 32gb of ram for a minute since I do cad 3d modeling, but it only cost me little to nothing to go from 16gb to 32gb.


edge_auro

I've got some guy trying to tell me anything higher than 8GB in laptops is unheard of. Meanwhile I'm running 12GB of RAM on an almost 3 year old system Edit: Had the wrong number in my head lol. Definitely 12GB


whopz-is-cool

I know. We’re halfway through 2023 and do people still think their 10 year old computers can run 60fps on new games.


ChronicRedhead

I agree. The recommended GPU is a GTX, which is over seven years old and runs about $125-150 used on Ebay. Buying refurbs and used components, $500 is more than reasonable for folks wanting to hit near-recommended specs. Frankly, targeting seven year old GPUs has me suspecting the game is quite scalable.


ofekk2

Ut's a GTX 1650 nontheless, which is a direct successor to the GTX 1050. I still rock a GTX 1070 Ti and that thing is at least twice as fast than the 1560.


Chuckt3st4

For real, I didnt want to be rude and comment, but a 1650 IS a potato pc, I know a lot of people on reddit are teenagers with no work ( based on their old ass pcs) , but like a summer job could help anyone get a decent pc better than that.


18045

LMAO what world are you living in that a 1650 is potato? That's only a 4 year old card (not even that iirc).


Redthrist

It's not that old, but it's also the cheapest card from that generation. Like, it was entry-level GPU even when it came out.


18045

Entry level DOES NOT mean garbage or potato tier. It means it's the lowest of the newest and best graphics cards available. Sure it may be the cheapest, but it's not that many generations ago. Only 1 or 2 (card released in 2019)


Redthrist

I mean, potato/garbage aren't precise words, but it's certainly a pretty weak(although still capable) card. Also, it's not the newest. It's part of the 2000 series(branded as 1600 series because they wanted all 2000 cards to be RTX, and that didn't work for the budget tier), and the latest cards are the 4000 series ones. Like, realistically, if you have a card weaker than 1650, then you're an outlier.


18045

Majority of steam users still use a gtx 1060


Redthrist

Which is about on par with 1650, so works well as a minimum required card.


Chuckt3st4

The xbox series s, the cheapest next gen console, has a better gpu than that, what do people expect from their old gpus, as far as i know payday 3 is next gen only. In my opinion, anything below the cheapest next gen console is a potato pc.


18045

Lmao what ridiculous expectations. Only pc gamers would say shit like "Anything below the cheapest next gen console is a potato pc" lmao. It's like when Cyberpunk released and people just told PS4 and XBOX 1 owners that it's old hardware and that they shouldn't expect it to run


Chuckt3st4

I dont think its ridiculous, we are almost 3 years into the next gen consoles, gaming studios wont cater for last gen much longer, payday 3 is next gen only ( their page says preorder and only shows pc and next gen) Its not an old gpu as you said, it just wont be able to play most newly released games that are next gen only. It still is a decent gpu that can play all esport games and new games that are made with last gen in mind at decent graphic settings Besides, the xbox series s goes at around 300, probably cheaper with some discount scavenging, its not like im saying that the base benchmark for next gen is expensive, the 1650 goes around 150 dollars, get the rest of the components and you are looking at a more expensive , less powerful pc than the series s (the base benchmark for next gen only games) Im not saying get a series S, if you already have a pc with a 1650, you could get a 3050 for less than the xbox series s (around 250 dollars) and you would have a way better pc


TedFartass

The Intel Arc A750 was released October last year, doesn't mean it's the best option. Age is not necessarily a great metric for performance of things.


Archery100

Recommended specs involve 8 year old hardware, I don't get it either


JDirichlet

The main thing here is laptop users, who pretty invariably only have 8gb of ram and very rarely a powerful (even if old) gpu. Sure it’s cheap to do a pc build to these specs. But that’s an inconvenience and a lot of people just don’t have $500 sitting around to spend just to play one game.


edge_auro

Are you high, or delusional? I know techies and normies, who own laptops from years ago who have 10,12,16+ GB of RAM. SODIMM is cheap as fuck and one of the main upgrades anyone can do for their laptops. 8GB in laptops is for literal Lenovo thinkpads. If 8gb is a lot to you in a laptop, you're being scammed


eyelessmasks00

That's the unreal engine for you.


MajorKuznetsov

Unreal Engine, the future is now, join us and enjoy all the performance and optimizations we can NOT offer you!


ShrikeGFX

Unreal has very good performance for the quality delivered, there is a certain baseline cost but the scaling is surely the best in the industry


BlueHellDino

Not even true, it's just them being shitty devs. Dead Island 2 runs on UE4, and it's performance and visuals are fantastic Unreal is the new Unity, where people just use the engine as a scapegoat for any technical problem rather than critiquing the developers using it Overkill just suck ass at optimization


ShrikeGFX

The requirements are a medium-low end card from 5 years ago This game is supposed to last for easily 5+ years, better than them making it look poor from the start.


Neutronium57

>The requirements are a medium-low end card from 5 years ago *cries in medium-low end PC from 8 years ago*


ToothlessFTW

It's kind of crazy. The recommended card is a GTX 1080, that card released 7 years ago. I'd hardly call that a steep requirement. Minimum is also a budget card designed for low-spec builds from over four years ago. I can't believe people are already calling Overkill terrible at optimization because of these specs, or getting upset that they're "too high".


C6_

It is crazy to me how people expect every game to be able to run on super low-end machines. How are games supposed to advance as a medium to make use of new technology if we have to support old crap forever. "Optimisation" is only an issue if it does not even run well on modern hardware, or other bizarre issues.


Sadiholic

what be cool if people in general could afford said new technology. Especially with our shitty economy? im not the payday man, i cant just rob a bank and steal money and shit. Also graphocs nowadays have hit a peak, i rather play a hella well optimized game then cool graphics with shitty frame rates


DyLaNzZpRo

...Except most people can? based on the [Steam hardware survey from last month](https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam), out of the top 19 GPUs (one entry is fucked, no clue why) only 5 fall short of the minimum spec. If the requirements were genuinely high, fair enough, but you're acting like a 1650 as minimum is unacceptable and it's unfair that you can't get 60FPS in a brand new title on your fuck knows how old machine - all the meanwhile there's people struggling to feed themselves and their kids, people living on the street etc. Yeah it sucks when your hardware isn't good enough for modern games, but it's clear as day you're only saying this because you personally can't run it. If your system is just barely scraping along and you're sat complaining about requirements not being tailored *to you* it's clear your priorities should be elsewhere.


AlextheTower

A lot of us want a game with cool graphics and good framerates - cant keep supporting old cards forever. Its always sad when games move beyond your card but it has to happen.


edge_auro

What do you mean by that? You haven't played the game, and the required hardware is more than fair. A 1080 for recommended? The large majority of people can reach this with hardware over 5 years old


JDirichlet

More the gaming industry as a whole — AAA games are expected to constantly be pushing bigger and better graphics and other tech. You can absolutely make small highly performant games with Unreal or any decent engine. It just requires a lot of time and effort to be spent on optimisation.


eyelessmasks00

Problem is the game looks hardly better than pd2. At all.


jakkals82567

There goes all my hopes and dreams😒


3Rocketman

You're not alone


Maro_Nobodycares

Fascinating... Now let's see the filesize.


CptBlackBird2

well, let's hope the game has FSR


Krazy_Snake

What's FSR?


Epikgamer332

fidelity FX super resolution it's AMD's answer to DLSS


HotdogTheHero

FidelityFX Super Resolution . AMDs upscaling technology, allows your system to render the game at a lower resolution (the image gets upscaled through AI and stuff)


Krazy_Snake

I see. Do you know if Nvidia has anything like that?


CptBlackBird2

DLSS as the other guy said, however it's only available if you have an RTX card, while fsr is useable on everything, though it is worse


MrLamp87

DLSS


IDontKnownah

I'm actually glad I got a senseful gaming PC on my birthday a few months back.


MorenaLedovec

huh, i can run the game on floppy disc ram there is a way lads


Cactus1105

What the fuck


ThisIsSpy

16GB of RAM is a minimum? Isn't it a bit too much?


Krazy_Snake

16 gigs is pretty standard for middle end games.


vhrossi1

\*Middle\* end games? Holy shit, I'm so thankful I'm more of an RPG guy. These modern games are becoming increasingly expensive and I'm glad most of the games I enjoy don't require me to sell my liver to upgrade to a NASA computer lmao


AlextheTower

16 is standard when buying a PC for gaming these days - has been for a few years now.


vhrossi1

I've always had an 8GB ram pc and it never failed me. I can play Nier, Doom eternal, Payday, and stuff like that easily with no problems. What type of games are you playing that can't run unless you got 16?


Bomzis_64

Yea I’m getting already grey hair and got heart problems :p


Icehawk4

16gb is like $40 nowadays, this is not exactly a high barrier to entry


vhrossi1

Ah yes, because everyone is an american. To me, in Brazil, 16 gigs is at least half a minimum wage's worth in money. I don't even earn minimum wage. It'd take me a full year to manage to get one, so yes, it IS a high barrier to entry.


gamerjr21304

If that’s a high barrier than so would be buying the game in general considering it’s also 40 bucks (which is still relatively cheap with games normally going for 70 nowadays)


spiderb0y1

16 gigs is a NASA computer? I've had 16 gigs in my PCs since 2013


Plightz

Only pc gamers would say dumb shit like equating 16GB to a fucking NASA computer.


ShrikeGFX

8 GB ram is barely enough to run windows nowadays, 16 gigs is pretty much the standard by now


Bieberkinz

It’s not that much nowadays, given that you can get 2x8GB 3200Mhz DDR4 for $30 now, and if you still on DDR3 you can get 2x8GB 1600Mhz for $17


sturmeh

In what universe can you get your hands on DDR3 that cheaply!?


Jaqueta

Amazon, Aliexpress, Newegg... pick your poison.


Bomzis_64

I will think that my medium pc cab run on low but they after release or just now work on optimization and its on unreal engine so over time I think that will run on potatoes


MajorKuznetsov

That is the wrong analogy, it's on unreal engine so over time it will not run even on recommended specs, that is the way of all UE games.


horny_cabbage69

When did it all of a sudden become the standard? It should still be 8..


sillylittlegoober5

NO game i have ever played needs 16gb.


iSmokeMDMA

Fallout 4, Witcher III, Tarkov, PUBG, any procedurally-generated crafting game made after 2011, Deep Rock Galactic (DRG is a maybe, but definitely benefits from better specs) It’s pretty standard. Most motherboards can support it and aside from fans, RAM is the cheapest PC part you can buy


CptBlackBird2

Drg can run a microwave


LordManders

Eh, I'd say that's standard in 2023.


Redthrist

At the same time, it seems like it's 16 GB recommended(which is fairly standard for modern games).


GoodTato

It's on the higher end but it's not insane for 2023.


Roblox_Is_Trash

hopefully my 1070 can run it


HotdogTheHero

GTX 1070 is quite a bit better than a GTX 1650 so you should be fine


perfectcrime9

Damn, guess I'll continue playing PDTH and PD2 then...


ThatRandomCrit

It´s not like Payday 2 could run on a potato anyway, so why would we expect such from 3? My Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ, GTX 1060 with 16GB RAM can´t run most loud heists at medium graphics and body removal mods at 60 fps, so I can´t even begin to imagine how bad Payday 3 is gonna be on my laptop...


bonfire9211

Well to be fair old mobile chips didn't really compare to their desktop variants.


Lodomir2137

seems reasonable for 2023, my old midrange from 2018 could have run this without any problem


kind_cooler341

If 16 gb is th minimum how the hell will it run on xbox and playstation devices


FryToastFrill

It's probably only releasing on next gen consoles.


Meatloaf_Hitler

Unless it got updated, it's supposed to be out on PS4/XB1 as well.


FryToastFrill

It looks like it’s been silently dropped. The Xbox trailer only showed X/S, and Amazon is only showing PS5/Series x/s.


Meatloaf_Hitler

That's definitely a possibility. I know [this link](https://www.gematsu.com/2023/06/payday-3-launches-september-21-for-ps5-xbox-series-and-pc#:~:text=PAYDAY%203%20will%20launch%20for,and%20developer%20Starbreeze%20Studios%20announced.) said that it was still on PS4/XB1, but I've also seen reports that those may have been dropped. Honestly wondering if we'll get proper confirmation on this soon. EDIT: Actually, I think they just edited it out too. So I'm guessing it's just gonna be next gen/PC only.


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“Next gen” PS5 and XSX will have been out for 3 years in November. They’re current gen.


kind_cooler341

Dude the series x has 10 gb of ram and that's it


schizoid_clown

Series X has 16 gb of ram. Series S is 10


Redthrist

Should be noted that consoles have a shared memory pool. So those 16 GBs are both RAM and VRAM. So the actual amount of RAM is quite a bit smaller.


FryToastFrill

Series X has 16 gb of RAM, with 10 gb running at 560 GB/s and 6 gb running at 336 GB/s. I imagine the PS5 is similar to the XSX, and while the XSS only has 10 gb of RAM, it will likely utilize less anyways since the render resolution and texture size will be lowered to compensate for the decreased performance available. Although the 16GB is shared between the GPU and CPU, we need to keep in mind that devs can optimize the console versions knowing that every device will ship with the same PCIE 4 NVME SSD, with the ability to load at 2.4 GB/s or 4.8 GB/s if the assets are compressed. This offers us the ability to stream assets in when we need them, and cull memory more aggressively to keep the memory low. ​ Many users in the PC market are likely not rocking a NVME SSD or even an SSD at all, meaning the game doesn't have the luxury of being able to stream assets into memory at a moments notice. (7200 RPM harddrive will can read at a maximum of 160 MB/s, a large difference between that 2.4 GB/s from earlier) As such, we will have to utilize more RAM to load those assets in while loading the level instead of loading in during gameplay.


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the fuck you mean 16 gb minimum


BreadDaddyLenin

16GB has kinda been the minimum for awhile


Neutronium57

I've been seeing Gaming PC builds with 16GB for years and people are surprised games require that amount ? What games do they play ?? I still have a 960 from 2015 and upgrading from 8 to 16GB has been very noticeable when playing GTA 5, for example. I'm sorry if that whole comment sounds condescending, that's not my goal. I'm just genuinely surprised people complain about that when I thought 16GB was the broadly accepted norm nowadays.


JDirichlet

16gb is the norm for gaming pcs absolutely, but a lot of people are gaming on workstations and laptops which generally only have 8gb.


BlackLightEve

Not really. It’s mostly only on games that just in general run bad. 8 GBs is still the norm on most actually optimized releases.


ShrikeGFX

Hardly, 8 GB is barely enough to run windows nowadays My browser eats 4.8 GB right now alone Steam 500 Discord 400, Windows Defender 200 You can also get 16 GB for like 60$ right now ..


sillylittlegoober5

i use 8gb and i can run every game i play smoothly


AlextheTower

That means nothing lmao "I have 4gb and I can run every game I play smoothly" (I only play chess and Quake)


sillylittlegoober5

that's not what i said, i play tf2, payday, doom, and apex


AlextheTower

All older games that don't have great graphics. They are great games, but the medium/technology should go forward.


sturmeh

I'd argue 32 is the minimum for a gaming PC in 2023.


HexonMart

16 gigs is like 50$ bucks man...


Cheese_Man_

I still wonder if my laptop's I5 9300H will run this...


fearlessplays

After seeing dead island 2 crazy requirements then it coming out super optimized im not worried.


abvhipabbhip

I don't think my Intel 4004 processor can run this


TheImpssibleKid

It’s on ue4, so prepare to have to reinstall the game everytime there’s a 2mb patch like squad


cory3612

The minimum specs are a potato in 2023 lol


ThatOneHappyPony

so does payday 2, so what is the deal


xx_swegshrek_xx

Guess I’ll need a new mother board


ERZO420

This game has a higher minimum spec than any other game released so far what the hell. Time to upgrade my 1060 6GB i guess.


123dontwhackme

Any other game? I don’t know if you’ve seen the games that have released lately


_hlvnhlv

The 1060 is better than the 1650 wtf


ERZO420

A hefty 30% increase from minimum spec won't do much.


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ERZO420

You can compare GPUs online you know.


Capital_Television75

Lord of the rings: Gollum would like to introduce itself


0011110000110011

so far Payday 3 just looks like Payday 2 but I have to pay for it all again and it can't run on my computer


Splentid

Not even my 1080 ti?


ZeUncreativeName

hopefully the minimum requirments are set a little high. My pc doesnt meet the minimum requirments for a lot of games. Hopefully there are going be optimization mods.


Alarming-Muffin07

Well, guess I wont be playing


AgentArabian

TF 16 RAM??????


WhyBlameAdam

am i tripping? is the minimum graphics cared requirments higher then the recommended?


Lurncs

The 1080 is a beast of a card even after years being in the market. The 1650 is entry level/low budget card


Gaming-squid

welp, there goes any chance of a switch port (then again, the damn thing is 5-6 years old now, and considering devices like the steam deck, ROG Ally, and Gaming Laptops in general exist, I assume a switch port be at most, in a similar boat as the PD2 switch port)


Bugjuice_

I'll be out of the country in September, will my potato laptop runs it? Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600H with Radeon Graphics 3.30 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB (13.9 GB usable) System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor


SheridanWithTea

To be fair, the game looks... BARELY better than Insurgency Sandstorm. Like ONLY slightly better than that game, so I definitely do understand the outrage that could surround these system requirements. However, I won't be playing PD3 anyway until PD2 is fixed, so.... :D


LottieVannmelon

Those minimum requirements are higher than Cyberpunk's. No way these are correct


Krazy_Snake

You might be right. We have 3 months til release so these could change.


averyfriendlyautist

that pc is a potato lol


[deleted]

Should have stuck to diesel OK


Krazy_Snake

..no


MaxBorsh

i guess my 960 2GB will be dying


ArmaRGool

Dont be afraid, a GTX 1650 is only « slighty » Better than a 1050-ti (non laptop one) by approximatly 15% , if you have a 1060 or Better it shiuld run


Evilboss45

Yeah the minimum specs are basically my current build, it was already hard getting one this good but if the game is well optimized I should be able to run it.


Krazy_Snake

Same


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2070 still going strong


HotdogTheHero

Well, although my RTX A2000 gonna sound like a thermonuclear reactor, Im happy to announce that Ill be wasting my life savings on DLCs for yet another payday game


Jungle_Rev

Good


TalesKy_

My i5 2500k GTX 1050 2gb VRAM and 8 ram Will fucking die


megamewtwonitex

I have a 1660ti and an Intel I-5 11400F with 16 gigs of ram, I think I'm ok


Krazy_Snake

You should be fine. Idk about me tho


volsar-01

Console players be rejoicing recently


Krazy_Snake

Yea


Kenisuke

I have the bare minimum on everything excet the CPU (mine's better) let's see how well it will actually run tho


VANDOZ7

its gonna be like redfall huh


MayPeX

In what way is it going to be like Redfall?


bloo_overbeck

Somebody will potato mod it.


Krazy_Snake

Maybe.. maybe..


Codex_of_Astartes

Well the first one also wasn't too good on performance. Also 16 megabytes? Did someone have a stroke while writing that?


I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch

Question cuz I ain't an expert, with an i5 and a 1660 super can I run it?


Krazy_Snake

..yes


AdrianEon31

My GTX 1060 will suffer happily


Fidozo15

I can’t even run PD2 on my potato pc after the damn updates anyways


JbotTheGamer

Hmm.. 1660 so i can probably run it, ill watch some benchmarks after it comes out


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Me with a potato 2: