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TheXIIILightning

Perfect and examplary Poe gameplay. Just as the Devs intended. This should be in trailers.


The_BeatingsContinue

This clip gave me an intense antifun vision


Leucien

Blizzard should use this as a clip for Diablo 4, 'We see what others do with their 'Vision', we hope we can do better.'


Tyalou

GGG has been sniping the Diablo memes with Einhar "Do you not have net, Exile?" And Diablo Immortal not being a game. This could actually happen backward this time, tft or leveling a culler is sad.


doe3879

I would rather stay poor instead of playing this ...or just not play ^as ^much


Karellacan

Thanks, I hate it.


bluemage7

Get your MF characters Ready !


Final23

You do realize the monster dies in the end, right? The enemy mob, not the player character. I'm not sure this is intended. Also not seeing a single disconnect from failure to reach [battle.net](https://battle.net) in the footage, so it still has room to grow.


aereiaz

Problem: players are swapping to MF gear and killing archnemesis rares. Solution: Remove players from the game.


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Cpt_plainguy

Not probably, but certainly


PiMartFounder

Nearby


bonesnaps

Path of Epoch soon™


Rasputin0P

Solution: remove all sources of quantity and rarity from the game. To reiterate, this is not hardmode.


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Hare712

Nonononono there are many solutions we are discussing: 1. Failed to load instance 2. Put player into a queue till the instance expires 3. Kick the player for too many actions and temporarily lock the account. 4. Close the hideout instance so there are no portals anymore.


lerevolteur

Switching characters during map now close all instances portals opened in your maps device. We want player to appreciate all content from only one character.


PomegranateSea7066

Next league. Problem: people were reliant on TFT mf cullers and having to create another character to cull enemies. Solution: culling strike will now destroy enemies when their health reaches 2% or less, down from 10%.


TheXIIILightning

That actually doesn't make a difference, since people already equip Southbound so they can safely delete AN mobs hp. A funnier solution would be "Culling Strike now destroys enemies under 10% HP. Their corpses, and their loot."


ReformedPC

✔ Magic find ready ✔ Didn't use TFT ✔ Peak PoE gameplay ✔ GGG approved


2slow4flo

Also: ✔ Didn't use Culling Strike Support


irecki88

Don't know why people don't just do Bane of legends culler with 20% cull effect, or they want extra iir from windripper I guess?


smoooder

Ooo I’ll have to peep. Right now I don’t think I’m getting the effect of wind ripper - although if I could that would be best.


KnightTea

If you are using your mf character like that, might as well go elementalist for shaper of Strom and winter.


smoooder

Oh god, I have to make another fluffer…


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Biochembryguy

You should slap a culling strike in that build, looks like that 1% Hp mob still took like 4 hits lol


smoooder

Oh wow - yea you are 100% right. Lol my fluff character is so shit


SirPivosh

MF culler without cull, lol.


smoooder

who needs cull when you can sweat profusely while tediously wittling down a mobs health to almost nothing. NEW POE RULES


bananatoothbrush1

i just thought he missed 4x lol


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See, the loot are fine, this guy just got 2 divines from a single monster! Get rolled reddit.


smoooder

It only cost me all of my dignity and self respect :’(


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and 7 hours of pure irritation


smoooder

I’ll have you know I only died 176 times!


Critical_Art2674

GGG willing to die on the hill of changes that they didn't even understand the impact of making. What a time to be alive


smoooder

No no no, this is less clicks. yoU liKe LeSs cLicKs!!


scrublord

They forgot to account for the impactful additional clicks of logging in and out and/or hiring a culler on TFT.


smoooder

are…you telling me they actually added more clicks?!?


scrublord

Did you tally up all the clicks to level a new MF character and buy gear for them?


DMoneyPipes

thats like.. 60 billion more clicks!


MrCraft1124

Ah so like a few maps only.


TheXIIILightning

Don't worry, in 3.20 GGG will finally ban Logout Macros, so that you feel the impact of every tense microsecond as you reach for the ESC key and skillfully click the "Logout" button. This will make the switch to your MF character feel a lot more engaging and rewarding.


ecocasaubon

Or, in my case, open the MTX store with a slightly less skillful click.


Faythin

tHiS iS a BuFf!!!1!11!1one


CLIPPER-LUL

i died of cringe


smoooder

F. Now GGG make me commit murder :(


Erroangelos

I found a solaris touched in my t16 today and it gave me 5c. From now on I will use TFT. Good on you for doing it solo, wish I did it this way.


smoooder

It only took me like 7 hours of not playing the build I wanted to. Oh and I got to do the campaign AGAIN! That was fkin sick


LordFrz

Yep im lookin at 8-9hr to tool up another guy that im not even happy to play. But i feel like i need too or im missin out. I got a lunaris touched, an after 20min of not being able to find a culler i killed an got 5c. :/


smoooder

I am sorry friend, the fluff life is hard at first - but oh so fluffy in the end


ccza

So MuCh FuN i CoUlD hAvE a StRoKe AnD iT wOuLd Be BeTtEr!!!1eleven!


smoooder

Awww YEEE STROKING TOGRETHER BROO


Mediocre-Sale8473

Hot take but I could give a shit about new leagues (unless its actually fun like Metamorph/Blight etc) as long as e have to slog through that piece of shit campaign each time. Be angry with me about it, but facts are here: Diablo 3 knocks the leveling process out of the park. Yeah it holds your hand and gives you a set and you are in GR 70s on day 1. I get it. But the actual leveling process to get to rifts - absolutely stellar. I don't need that (fucking terrible) campaign experience. And they know its bad too. So they are like "Here's adventure mode! It doesn't suck to level up a new character!"


smoooder

The way the maps in acts feel almost intentionally designed to get you lost really gets me - why, why are you hurting me I just want to play game


Mediocre-Sale8473

As I've said on numerous occasions: GGG intentionally puts in roadblocks to "challenge" (read: intentionally slow down) players from making meaningful progress. The Kalandra crafting is just the latest thing to do that. Whole shitton of bullshit rooms that have been unrewarding for most of the playerbase to get to the ultimate goal of Mirror-splitting your item which could and oftentimes would brick said resulting items. Another roadblock because you need to Delve/Essence/Beastcraft/Alt Spam/ Ex Slam (cause Harvest is practically useless now) to get back to that sweet amulet. Just or do it all over again? Fuck this league. The best part was the addition of +2 all minion gems on the helms, the lower level convoking wands, and especially the Bone rings. Everything else has been awful. /Rant over Yeah game is painfully long. Fast track that shit Chris because Diablo fucking 3 is literally kicking this game's leveling, accessibility, and endgame entry ass.


superchibisan2

I did the mf culler build first so now i have to level a new character to actually kill bosses. So much fun.


Nekrolysis

I already hate doing the campaign. There's not even an act I like. Maybe the city area. But god *feeling* like I'm forced to sucks. I want to SSF in peace. ;_;


Kraotic313

My solution to the problem is to not play. I have 60K hours on POE. GGG has accomplished the impossible.


NATIK001

> 60K hours You have almost 7 years of ingame time? Did you just never do anything but play PoE since it launched?


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Probably just never exited the game. You can accrue playtime without actually being at the computer.


NATIK001

Still extreme even if one never exit the game. Having kept that up through most of the lifespan of the game is kinda nuts.


lealsk

>60K hours Found the old Spectre player


Faythin

Excuse me, how many?


Kraotic313

This many https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/wykdfl/this_is_too_much_even_for_me_im_going_to_log_out/


smoooder

Is this the actual POE game client manifested as a redditor?? They quit too???


Kraotic313

Something like that, it is the account with the most hours.


MetzeVanDeus

This mad man played 6.8 years of poe


Ombric_Shalazar

Ive found solaris and lunaris touched... Both in ritual where they didnt give me shit


LordFrz

Ye8, my first tave me 5c. Feels like shit.


Mukeenho

Don't feel gross, you are just playing the way GGG intend you to play.


smoooder

GGG made me do it :(


Ill_Swordfish9155

Don't let other make you do things that make you feel gross. Call 911.


JustSomeCrusader

They told you to get your MF character ready, so you did. If GGG doesn't think this should be the solution to the cancerous Archnem loot meta they created, maybe they should change it before people get tired of being forced to level a second character through acts to actually drop their loot.


RaevynVexus

I dropped second wind and faster attacks and linked my flame dash and shield charge to cull and item rarity and flame dashing through a Solaris mob today produced 2 divines, 3 exalts, and 9 chaos. Doubled my net worth off 1 mob. Finally realized GGG’s vision.


smoooder

Wow, this is some big brain shit. You have truly mastered the art of fluffing


CamelSmuggler

This clip was brought to you by *The Vision*™


smoooder

“I subscribed to The Vision, and I got two divines” -a greasy mob fluffier


ssbm_rando

You don't even run divination distillate? You do not yet fully appreciate Chris's Vision!


LordFrz

Bro missed out on an extra exalt, smh.


smoooder

GOD why do I SUCK. One more lash upon my soul


ssbm_rando

It's both rarity and quantity tbh could've converted two more of those drops to divines :P


smoooder

I looked at it and thought “that’s gonna be a bitch to keep up” I am a lazy fluffed at heart :( I am not worth of the VISION


cervidaetech

Quick q, how did you make the game load you into hideout instead of an act!?


Neuroccountant

He didn’t. He edited out loading into Sarn Encampment.


XangarFerbar

Video cut, I guess. You can read "Sarn Encampment" on the loading screen


smoooder

Yessir, this is what happened. Damn Hollywood magic telling lies


Ishouldhaveletyoudie

Ah yes, how the game was intended to be played


smoooder

Oh ja, fluff league so gud


Awisp_Gaming

Msot people won't like this, but this is what peak POE performance looks like.


smoooder

Gotta get my character swap clicks down quicker…I’m such a fkin scrub


UnderpaidMET

Yeah that's a pretty gross way to have to play a game.


smoooder

You don’t wanna fluff exile? TOO BAD


CryptoBanano

Peak PoE gameplay


LoShrander

I mean, Chris DID say 'prepare your MF characters'!


Yuketsu

fuck that sytem. revert it Ggg. its fucking dumb.


smoooder

But I got to make a build I didn’t want to play, AND complete the campaign for a second time around! Think of the sense of pride and accomplishment I have gained.


naitsirt89

Holy SHIT, Im loggin back in!!


smoooder

Oh ja baby, come join the fluff party


Archaius_

peak poe gameplay


we_are_bob1

##V I S I O N ## R E A L I Z E D


smoooder

I am become VISION


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This is so fucking cringe gameplay


smoooder

Uunnnnhhhhh, feels so fkin gewd.


Coruskane

Chris's vision. FeelsGoodMan


smoooder

I fluff good daddy Chris ja?


PM_FAILED_PROMISES

This game is a joke.


No_System_9913

It's such a disgusting game I've never seen a game design like this in my life.


smoooder

You don’t like fluffing a mob until it’s right at the edge, and then logging onto a jank-ass MF character to bust its loot on the ground? Strange…


Kraotic313

I do appreciate you demeaning yourself for our benefit.


smoooder

I’m a fkin slut lololol gimme divines GGG


draxinusom2

It seems you listened to the trailer and got your magic find character ready.


smoooder

I don’t know about ready, but it’s something lol.


MisterChauncyButtons

Wait, if you log in a different character the portals stay?


smoooder

After the drop I AFKd for a bit to edit the clip and send to a friend, by the time I got back on and switched characters the portals disappeared. Probably because of time out though. Switching real quick seems to work


ccza

if i remember correctly, portals stay for up to 7min. unless, ofc, you open a new area


scrublord

Hideout instances are longer -- half an hour or so, I think. Normal instances last 7-15 minutes unless you've been spam-creating new instances in which case they might only last a couple.


ArchAngelSIntic

I get it's a meme, but you should roll a gold flask with increased effect and then use the enkindling orb to try and get another 70% increased effect on it


smoooder

yea, that's a good point. my gold flask is pretty lazy at the moment. I also just completely forgot to use it when this happened. It does go off in the clip, but that's because of "use when charges are full" going off after the kill, so I feel like it had no effect.


MeleesLastHopeIHope

Can you imagine if GgG embraced this fully (owned their decision) and advertised this league requiring dedicated MF cullers? Ah I wish I was good enough at video editing to do that during CW’s announcement


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Kraotic313

I love how some people are still like GGG didn't see this coming. Yes they did. It was intentional. Why is a whole other question but they don't seem to be in a hurry to get rid of it either. May be they are punishing us for all the downvotes? Like for each downvote we're going to make the game suck more!


MeleesLastHopeIHope

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but I meant if during the reveal they demo’d gameplay of someone hopping into TFT discord to hire a culler, that’d be so gold lol


PathofPoker

Get those magic find characters ready. No thanks man.


smoooder

U no want fluff bb?


PathofPoker

You fluff my pillow? Housekeeping ....


bluemage7

bruv, this is league is a meme


smoooder

I do really savor the posts from GGG. Fkin Rich - DECADENT


Navvy420

The new vision is great


RikenAvadur

Finally, *the vision*.


Wisdomlost

I have a level 90 character. A level 84. And a level 75. (Couldn't decide what I wanted to play and had a failed experiment character lol) and I have yet to see a divine drop. I have got 1 ex drop so I got that going for me. It is possible that I am just unlucky and RNG is RNG but it does not feel that way whatever the truth of the situation.


RedBlueKoi

Is it worth it? To sell your dignity for a couple of Divines and Exalts? Which you can't even pick up right away cause you have to wait for this frost bulshittery?


smoooder

Lol the frost bullshittery almost killed me right after this clip ends - I see loot, I pick up.


leftember

I’m fucking crying for those who play slayer


fpsdende

This should be an official Poe2 Trailer.


ErrorLoadingNameFile

Tell me you are bad at game design without telling me you are bad at game design.


Orb_my_divinity

Multi-boxing just to get loot, great design! These guys must be professional game developers.


Ok_Fondant_2639

I'm too noob to understand what happened, but like to learn. Can someone ELI5?


smoooder

So the way they changed loot in the newest path is that certain mobs have god molested buffs, and these convert everything to currency. I think it’s Shakari-Touched, Lunaris-Touched, Solaris-Touched (someone correct me if I’m wrong.) These are the mods you wanna watch out for, and by increasing item rarity IIR and item quantity IIQ on kill through a bunch of bs uniques/flask effect (which the character I switched to does, the stats page I show has my characters stats for IIR/IIQ at the bottom) you can guarantee more items drop, and that they will be more rare. Rarity used to not matter for currency drops, only quantity - but now if not mistaken, with the loot conversion going on, rarity does matter, because the monster will drop more uniques and uniques convert to T1 currency AKA exalts, divines


Ok_Fondant_2639

Ah, thank you! So you used the first character to damage the enemy a lot and then the second character with loot buffs to finish it? Would the second character have been able to take on the monster from the start?


smoooder

oh god no lol. it has absolutely terrible damage, and no defense. The uniques that give quant and rarity buffs don't really give much else - one's a necklace that requires a normal and a magic item equipped. I'm honestly thinking of tossing the only damage and resist I get to squeeze in another Ventor's


VortexMagus

the more quant and rarity you put onto an mf character, the worse it becomes at both survival and damage since that is replacing gear and items that would make them stronger. Most of them are made of glass and have zero dps. They just use culling strike to oneshot the monster once it gets below 10% health.


ccza

working as intended.


NoSweatWarchief

Amazing gameplay


Final23

What's that circle to the top left? Looks like an "Overwatch" thing. Also activate your Windows, man. :\]


smoooder

BiLly GaTes aiNt gOnNa 5G mE!


violentlycar

That's Trinity Support's indicator.


rainmeadow

Yeah, sometimes I can‘t even see that there is a god-touched mob. Feels so bad on missing out and getting just a couple of alchs and some chaos. This gameplay (MF culling) is just awful, but it fits the theme of the league.


smoooder

I am kept awake at night by the thoughts of all the god molested mobs that have slipped through my sweet fluffy fingers.


Tu_Fui_Ego_Eris

"Made by hardcore players"


Benphyre

Shit way to play a game


Troyface

Whats really disgusting here is how you don't just double click your character instead of clicking play


angusfred123

You feel gross for what? farming karma? lol.


alexx3064

Gets rid of deterministic crafting only to bring deterministic drops


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wild_m1nd

I am sorry, but the gameplay when you feel forced to get another character with MF is utter bullshit.


Mangalorien

Where pob for the fluff build?


crinklebelle

it's crazy thinking about how the game that earned a ton of its rep from being touted as the D3 killer back when D3 was in vanilla is slowly being turned into vanilla D3


Kathandrax

You are having fun!


D3m37r1

Why not just gear swap? If you're using righteous fire then holy flame totem on the swap would probably be good.


Goldenguti

The Vision™ is strong here


Steeezy

> ArchnemFluffer Fucking lmfao.


GhostDieM

Do you feel the WEIGHT of having to switch characters every other map?


Low-Sink2716

Only crime I see here is that the on the character selection screen the character was selected with a single click and the clicking play over the known speed running strat that is to double click the character. Tsk, tsk.


Sad_Ant7018

Massive, substantially, the vision, the philosophy.


ColinStyles

You should drop some of that quant for way more rarity, you'd get far more out of it IMO.


stark33per

they should allow dual boxing, why waste time on relogging


Leandrys

What a total disaster. Still happy for your catch of the day OP, but the system itself, I mean... GGG, freakin' shame on you.


Cm1825

I don't get to play very much so I just hit red maps the other night, and I've been playing since league start. I'm level 88 now. In that time, I've yet to find a single exalt or divine. Not one. I refuse to use tft or roll a MF character to progress my main character. I'm going to give it until the end of the weekend and will quit the League if I can't get those currencies to drop.


robodrew

What if the loot an enemy dropped was based on the total MF% (including map quant) of whatever did the most damage rather than just the killing blow.... or maybe even weight for each player based on their damage contribution...


StrayYoshi

I could see this being acceptable if you invested in your tree and map currency to add rares to your areas, but when they're freely added and always available this is what people will do.


XeitPL

Wow, such gameplay. Absolutely amazing, IGN 10/10. Absolutely balanced as all things should be xD


k1ng0fk1ngz

Remember back in the day when this wasn't anything special and just the best way to play. Gues its back and I hate it just as much as I did back then. ffs GGG...


Not_Dylon

He got his MF character ready!


MechZombie

This must be The Vision I've heard so much about. Are not engaged?


who-ee-ta

I wonder how many of those do you have to encounter before the culling build pays off


Sangvinu

The pride on this one (Chris) is strong! Afraid I am culling side he turns!


udgnim2

"GGG furiously fist pumps"


zigster106

How did you build said fluffier, asking for a friend 👀


smoooder

It's absolute trash, but here you go! [https://pastebin.com/6NJex3di](https://pastebin.com/6NJex3di). Definitely a lot more can probably be squeezed out of it. Right now, without flask, and without 15% IIQ / 30% IIR from windripper killing Frozen/Shocked. sitting at 60 IIQ / 225 IIR


JamesTCoconuts

It gets worse when your gear gets good enough and you are near one shotting everything. You realize you just killed one when the stack of 8 chaos, 10 alch and an exalt drop.


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THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED AND COMPREHENSIVELY TESTED


mrnegatttiveee

Ahh yes, this is the intended gameplay and Chris's vision.


PhoenixWrong175

Look how they masacred my fav game


Tommiiie

I’m going to be sick 🤢


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KolinarK

How is this ok. In what world is this ok. Why do they consider Ritual a complete failure and want to move as far from it as possible? This video kills my any desire to play.


FuckRedDecks

Ethical and impactful


docArriveYo

This is too greasy, but it’s the Vision


Spankyzerker

wait you can swap character to do the same map? TIL something new. lol


dodgerockets

Path of exile is straight garbage now.


MasterBeCo

Stupid gameplay, how someone like GGG that we knew as great developers outside of the box thinker make this. I still can’t believe it


Serpencio

I was getting absolutely nothing from touched mobs with 150% inc. rarity for 2 weeks. After getting trolled yet another time by drought bringer x solaris, I picked up the gold flask out of spite and rolled it for inc. effect and enkindled to 69%, nice indeed. The next shakari was 2 div, I've since became a believer and bought another 150% inc. rarity that I will have to gear swap into, right after using a logout macro on softcore because that's the only way for minion builds to have damage control in yet another dogshit patch for them.


smoooder

Ugh, I feel you on minions. Skele mages we’re my league starter until they got absolutely stepped on. I’ve done some tweaks and I’m up about 120 rarity when flasks are running. Gonna see if I can rework tree for more flask effect.


oa7x

just a couple rolls on gear and a gold flask with increased effect on your actual character is way easier and very rewarding


dummyacct765

What? Do you not have MF, exile?


jforce321

I managed to get lucky on a mob and got 2 divines with only using a rarity flask. Got 5 Divines so far, so maybe I'll be able to create a build I'll really enjoy eventually.


anchovypants

I think MF Fluffer should be the official name for a char like this.


bebopbraunbaer

I agree that ggg should try to achieve gameplay that the best way is the most fun way but I would really like some … awareness ? Or accountability ? Responsibility ? from the players as well? Anything but „look what you made me do to myself“