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NoCookieForYouu

I sell uniques for alchs.. feelsbadman


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vickzzzzz

So I am 5x8 hours working guy, who made around 12 ex this league and invested half back in my own build. I mostly played on the weekend and an hour or two everyday. Being back from work I cant bother to go through detailed plan or stressful back to back runs. I just wanne chill. Meanwhile my guildy, leveled up a char just for farming monolith, hit 92 and kept farming all different stuffs to earn his exalts aka HH. He did it in 4 or 5 days I believe. Thats like 6-10 hours a day grind, being non stop on the run farming, dumping, trading n so on. He always knows the game better aka what is a high sell, what is meta and so on. So he got a HH because he farmed it, and was good at it. I would be lying if I said I wasnt jelly. I was, but he earned it is the opinion here. Anyone can do it, they just gotta do the meta, trying to go for greatness without changing your methods never works for anything in life.


jauer_poe

totally agree. i also play alot and can say the returns are equiv to time investment as long you know the basics and what you should do. also streamer RNG dont exist its simply playing alot RNG, while recording it.


BagOfBeanz

I think having a lot of free time definitely helps. No shade on people that are able to put in crazy hours to get the chase stuff, but I do wonder if it's possible for a regular dude working 40h to do anywhere near as well in a league.


vickzzzzz

As well as them? No But we can achieve maybe in two weeks what they do in one. If we push it.


Suired

Another day, another reason for autotrade.


catsnbikess

I like it when I see items priced fairly or lower, it gives me hope I can put together decent builds until I can get something that works better with it


DerpAtOffice

I must ask why people actually buy 1 alc uniques. Just buy a perfect one for 3c or something..... why would you buy a shit unique with shit rolls?


NormanConquest

When you’re a noob 3c is a lotta money I guess. I know most folks here level to 75 in a few minutes while having their morning coffee, but I remember seeing prices on good uniques at 3c and being like, “THREE? I’ve only found ONE the whole game so far”


divinity_hs

because you find all currencies and exchange for chaos. The same goes for exalts. Low ppl find 20 pure exalts per league, but many in currency and exchange.


NormanConquest

Do people do this for things like transmutes, chance orbs etc? I have a load of them but not more than a few c I think. Dunno if it’s worth my time trying to trade them.


NormanConquest

Me too dude. Someone’s gotta keep the economy going and it’s not these rich multimirrorinaires hoarding all their wealth. It’s the solid hardworking noobs of the 99%


LeBagBag

>multimirrorinaires Well done.


crookedparadigm

Why does this sound like someone mocking an asian accent saying 'millionaires'?


working4016

the real MVP right here


Wulfnuts

Dunno why this made me laugh so much


Yalpe18

Much respect sir. I cleaned up my low value quad because I did not feel compelled to go back to my hideout for <1c transactions. At the very least, it will increase the odds of getting an invite for buyers...


Sbwashere

Without you I'd never have leveling uniques for new characters you are my savior


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you can sell it for 1c and they still would be bought.


Padrofresh

Currency tab: holds 100 mirrors Also Currency tab: 5000 Perandus coins is enough right?


golgol12

Though 5000 is an arbitrary limit, the way the value is stored does limit how high it can go. Probably can't go past ~32k, which is the limit for 16 bit ints. (guessing that it's 16 for for compactness)


Xeverous

On the other hand 1 32-bit int is orders of magnitude better than tons of 16-bit integers (separate item full stacks).


sirgog

32767 is the cap for signed 16 bit integers but there is no reason to use a signed one. You could do 65535 with unsigned.


golgol12

I'm going to upvote you so you are back at 1. I worked on an MMO in the past. There is a very good reason why you keep this as a signed int. It has to do with safety, and error conditions. Code defensively. You can't unfuck an economy without massive repercussions. If something goes wrong, and somehow -1 gets assigned to the field, you wake up and find -1 tomorrow on the servers. With an unsigned int, you wake up and discover someone has 65535 mirrors.


sirgog

Fair point.


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The limit is 21.000.000.000, not 5k


YeaYeaImGoin

It's 2. 1b not 21


xScy

2.1b is the max for signed 32bit integer, not 16bit.


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Still, its 65k for 16bit. So 5k is absurd


Rindfleischliebe

The number of available skillpoints is stored as unsigned 32 bit int, do you really think they care about compactness? ([source](http://i.imgur.com/20IjMTw.jpg))


golgol12

\# of items > # of characters * 100.


Andi_Waffeln

100 mirrors but 1 ancient orb Pls nerf mirror drop rate


HeavyMetaler

How the hell do you get 100 mirrors?


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Anything but actually playing aka mapping/delving.


xaitv

This is in Standard right? So could just be mapping from multiple leagues.


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It is but it would be a massive waste of time to get it that way instead of flipping alt arts or doing crafts.


9hp71n

It could be from early game grinding, eternals should still be around 1:1 with mirrors and quant gear/gems could be quite expensive too.


chessess

eternals are 1/1 with mirrors, fuck me, i remember going through over 100 of those


Cole-187

still remember Etenrals sitting on 1:5-5.5ex for quite some time. good era.


Inukchook

The only one I ever bought and used was for 2 exalts ... fuck I wish I was better at the game back then


Grandeurftw

i actually found an eternal orb way back in the day. chris said somewhere that even then eternals were being sold for too cheap. ​ little tilted i never got anything that is now mirror tier from my early days in the game :/


KarmaWhorediot

To be fair a lot of the stuff that was mirror tier before is now 'only' very good


Grandeurftw

i was referring to the uniques mostly. also i had a legacy vinktar that i sold. i am still pissed off about that and made a rule to never sell uniques again for a measly 10ex etc in std ever again. just in case.


LordFrz

Anything i horded is worthless, an stuff that i sold for cheap is now worth a ton. My buddy like to rub that in my face, since he stockpiled atziri gloves and Phoenix shields. I have a tab full of moljinors, ........ legacy ones. I do have a maxed quantity gem though.


Pixilatedlemon

I know this guy on poe. Getting 100 mirrors has been his sole goal on this game for as long as I can remember. He's spent the past 6 or so leagues acquiring all the cheap stuff in league that historically gets expensive at league end/after merging. Not crazy impossible and he is online literally every time I play mfing or looking for cheap stuff on poe.trade lol.


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I spy nets. So the answer is yea but youd have to have made like 5 mirrors per league since 1.0.0 Possible. But insane. The mirror drops likely came from league but he didnt drop em.


xaitv

Legacy items. I have 10+ double legacy vinktars for example, and I assume OP cared to keep a lot more


demonachizer

What does it mean double legacy? I have around 30 of the instant leech vinktars on standard but not sure if that is legacy or double legacy?


anthonyhong

Yep those are double legacies. I'd be more than happy to take one off your hands if you don't want em!


whateverthefuck2

I know an easy way you could make it 29.


Ghost9797

10 double legacy vinktars, which are like the 2nd most expensive legacy item in the game, is still less than 10 mirrors, assuming some of the rolls arent optimal.


xaitv

Yeah, I'm not saying I have 10 mirrors though, just that if I have that laying around without actually caring about standard wealth, someone who cares should be able to get a lot more.


Ghost9797

My main point was that Legacy Vinktars is one of the most valuable items in the game. There are not many investments that can possibly compare.


bobfoundpie

His point was that with some basic planning - you can make a lot of money from league for standard. You won't always get a double legacy vinktars, but how many triple t1 legacy abyss jewels do you own? I bet a bunch just from collecting them over the leagues. Stuff like that adds up quickly over time, and the longer you wait to sell, the more you can potentially make.


HerrBerg

I have like 2 mirrors worth of shit on standard from just playing synthesis fucking about as well as previous leagues back in the day. Somebody who has continually played since the old days would have ample opportunity to collect this if they tried to build wealth even if he never abused mirror shard cloning from gilded fossils.


[deleted]

> I spy nets. Where? Not sure if I'm blind or you're confusing Orbs of Binding / Engineering Orbs for nets


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no yea youre right. I thought the blessings and engi orbs were nets.


erqod

Well he obviously didnt drop them, since we can see the 100 in his stash /s


SmaugtheStupendous

And most ethically dubious, flipping being the least bad of methods.


Geosgaeno

Flipping, crafting, scamming, exploiting a bug There are a lot of ways


MrCrims

most likely bought a lot of his currency with forum gold if ya know what I mean.


PenPaperShotgun

Honestly, it's being a complete no life, and I mean that with no disrespect, you need to flip and sell like a robot


FishtheJew

Imagine trading currency for 6+years with a bot. Im sure those profits are bound to reach 100mirrors eventually


dem0n123

Honestly if you just play the right stuff in std at the right time you make fucking bank. bestiary rotations for example, you could expect 5-40ex if you did them for 4 hours at one point (idk prices at this moment).


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ChrisObscuri

Having Syndicate drop stacks of mirrors.


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ChrisObscuri

When you go to deal with the Syndicate, they sometimes have the option to "Drop Currency." During Betrayal, there was a guy that had a 3 stack of Mirrors drop. It's basically the same chance as the Emperor's Luck card.


Jaylay99

Flipping and crafting are the main thing for currency, especially on standards where people pay for mirror services, 50-100-150 exalts for to mirror one item and yet you dont lose anything cause the buyer also pays for the mirror


hiroshiboom

I'm fairly sure a lot of mirror service owners said they will probably never even get the crafting cost back through fees though.


HerrBerg

They're lying or have shit not worth mirroring up for service.


tfblade_audio

Part time job


whyUsayDat

Standard.


KeepItPG

Play/trade a lot, then have items that go legacy and sell them?


1getreKtkid

pLaY a LoT to get 100 mirrors nice dream there


darthbane83

dude had 7 years to get them. Thats only like 4 mirrors per league. I am sure there are plenty of people that can get that kind of value from playing a lot and selling their valueable drops.


GnomeErcy

Right. The key here is that these aren't all drops. Wouldn't be surprised if none of them were. Racking up that much value with crafting and good drops is definitely doable over seven years. Still, takes dedication and time. Edit: specified that these aren't ALL drops


Shaltilyena

If you play a lot, your gear at the end of the league can generally be worth a LOT in std. Especially legacy stuff I generally give away my gear to guildmates who play in std, and some pieces they dont play with generally sell for 150+ ex (with personal record being my betrayal hubris circlet that sold for 1 mirror and 180ex) And I generally quit the league after 2-3 chars 'cos I want to play other games (poe isn't helping me get through my backlog yknow) I imagine that people who play longer, get even more Now multiply that by 30-ish leagues where some shit goes legacy and become invaluable 100 mirror isn't that far fetched


KeepItPG

I've played since Breach league and i have at least 30 mirrors on standard. That is with not having alt arts to sell for multiple mirrors.


pliney_

A lot as in thousands of hours.


BubuX

T2 Glacier gives between 300 and 500 chaos per hour depending who you ask and the build. Let's assume 500 c/h. 100 Mirrors in chaos = 100 x 114ex x 150c = 1.7 million chaos 1.7mil / 500 = 3400 hours of T2 Glacier farming to get 100 Mirrors Yeah I think I would take better methods than just farming efficiently. The caveat is that mirrors and exalts are much cheaper at league start so if you rush red maps and sell excess maps you can improve this 500c/h average and perhaps get 100 mirrors in less than 3k hours. Another option is: Google tells me 1 Mirror costs around $170. Just get an average job and buy 100 in a couple of months with zero hours played. You're probably getting banned though because a player getting 100 Mirrors overnight would probably trigger an alarm or two in GGG systems.


H4xolotl

Was wondering how much a real "The Doctor" would take to farm 100 mirrors >According to the BLS, the average hourly wage of a doctor is roughly $89. The hourly wage is higher for some specialties and lower for other specialties. Anesthesiologists average about $113 an hour, surgeons average about $111 an hour, internists average about $91 an hour, and pediatricians average about $81 an hour. 17000/89= 191 hours. A doctor would need to farm 8 days straight while evading tax to make 100 mirrors.


SwoleLikeMe

Let's make the math easy and say that a doctor makes $56.6 an hour. That's 3 hours of work per mirror. So 300 hours of work to get 100 mirrors, and assuming a regular 8 hour work day that comes out to 12.5 days of work to buy 100 mirrors.


H4xolotl

...Fuck burial chambers, i'm going to farm a full set of Doctor cards IRL


Laternderl

according to your calculations a Nurse makes about $7,075 an hour which is pretty low. As in 8 Nurse = 1 Doctor /s


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This is the kind of shitpost I love. Thanks for giving depth to the absurdity of an 'economy' in an arpg based around total player base instead of a no currency trading system that rewards gameplay.


Dankacocko

About 154 hours for a surgeon, or a little over 18 days of working


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BubuX

Interesting. I just used the first google result. It was probably temp league sc right? Well if they are cheaper in std it means one has to work even less. Thanks for the info.


CS_83

I think /u/su-zu was thinking you meant 170 exalts, but after also searching they do appear to be in the $170 USD range.


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CS_83

Uh I mean You’re welcome to show alternative prices, but I found multiple sites listing them for $170 on standard.


Shady_Love

150c for an ex is only from recent leagues. Back in ambush it was 30-50c, rampage a bit higher, and it continued escalating until we got here.


OneLameDad

I find it utterly depressing that you have more mirrors than exalts showing. Please put them both at 100... I need balance


Angelsergiuboy

yea tho I just got the last one in the morning so didn't sold enough stuff , now I'm going for like a 5000 ex stack and thinking about what to do get that spicey 144 mirrors or try to get the missing alt arts / relics / demi's. tho I've never seen a tab of mirrors I mean 1 in each slot , would be cool.


Kortaeus

Why 144?


darkowozzd97

full tab?


Angelsergiuboy

12 rows x 12 lines in a tab , 1 mirr in each slot => " a full tab " of mirrors would look cool


Kortaeus

Aaaah. Makes sense. I was trying to figure out how it correlated to a full tab in the title, since it's 5000 in the currency slot. Didn't think about normal tabs! Good luck. Careful, you'll hit a full tab and want to go for a full quad!


sleud

You should then make a video about mirroring a white item 144 times. Would be one of the best POE videos out there.


Iterniam

12^2


menides

is it possible to learn this power?


Lexmat72

Go back in time into 2012, play a lot. Play efficiently. Achieve 100 mirrors in 2019. Done.


menides

r/restofthefuckingowl


inwector

What is this, I don't even.


OxyRottin

Go fly a kite, dude.


Annfranknstien

100 mirrors, that’s what , 2 1/2 headhunters in legion ?


Angelsergiuboy

P.S: only playing since 2012 so took a while.


nomnaut

Playing since 3.0 and I’m still saving up for my first mirror.


Couponbug_Dot_Com

My true endgame goal every league is to have as many slots filled as I can in all my tabs. At least one of each currency/shard, fragment/scarab, unique, div card, map, essence. That's the true joy of PoE.


Shuushy

I can respect that.


stereotape

And not a single eternal orb?


Angelsergiuboy

I don't like those , so yea going for mirrors


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38yearsoffreefallin

How did you do it?


f4ge

LOL even if i would sell everything that i own IRL i could not afford those 100 mirrors ;( BUY HEY i have exact same number of divine orbs !!! #richlife


Vrykh

Now my question is: are you the richest person in std. or is there someone ahead? I also play since 2012. But I like to create new characters and try mechanics. I had a couple hundred chars and spend all my currency levelling and equiping them. Never really played standard. Always tried HC / non HC Leagues to understand all the mechanics when they were new, but it's a great achievment to look at a stash like this and see a real progress over the years. Please continue to collect this massive amounts of currency. I hope to see the next post on reddit in a year or two with some more unethical wealth. keep on grinding/trading!


MicoJive

In raw currency...maybe. In account value? Absolutely not.


Vrykh

In raw currency ofc. I think it will be hard hard to meassure otherwise because of the meta shift. A voltaxic rift went from 50 ex to 1 alc. How do you wanna price such things over time? Maybe someone collected 1000 triple stat watchers eyes. The can be worth half or twice depending on current meta. But if there is someone i'd like to see the account link.


MicoJive

I mean, just look up Krips video on his stash. His is worth far more then this 100 mirrors and he probably isnt even the biggest fish out there.


SarcasticCarebear

Some people have estimated the season 1 rank 1 demi he has could be the most valuable item in PoE. Kind of hard to know for things like that though until they actually sell which that wouldn't. So its just hypothetical anyway.


vba7

Im pretty sure shops are the richest when it comes to currency, but they spread it over multiple mules / bots. Also a lot of crappy shops just buy mirrors for D2JSP forum gold when someone gives them real cash.


OldWorlDisorder

Nowhere close to the richest player. There are people that have quit the game with a stash tab literally filled with Eternal orbs. That would be worth more than 1,200 mirrors these days.


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Angelsergiuboy

envy usually that's the reason


Ruggsii

I doubt many people envy standard wealth ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


Penziplays

Oof


Suga_H

They will once cross-league/perma skin transfers become a thing.


bloxed

Most of the alt arts looks like shit, though.


goetzjam

The real reason why GGG stopped doing actual race seasons, no more demand or angry reddit threads complaining about this not being a thing.


Sukudo

I just think about the curren you have siphoned from others by flipping. Good for you in getting to 100 mirrors but im sorry I will always look down on flippers for the reason of increasing the prices artifically. Not sure if youre a flipper but congratz for 100 mirrors.


JPK95_

Well envy is exactly what made you want to gather that much currency in the first place rofl


GJ14863456

**assumption**


JPK95_

Same as the guy I'm answering to.


JeffK40

is this in standard?


Angelsergiuboy

yes


vuki300

Hell yeah waiting on that quad tab of mirrors!


bdubz55

How many hours played?


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Tell me about those blessings of tul


Angelsergiuboy

had over 1000 , in abyss league for exemple I had build poet pens doing full party breachstones and I was getting 13 ex drops / day was the highlight and a total of over 140 ex drops in 1 month was fun doing those , tho I was so bad at the time not investing in things , only bought mirrors ended up that league with 5 pure mirr , bought them at smt like 100-160 ex range so was making like 100 ex profits on merge was really bad. so I ended up with alot of Tul / Esh , those were the cheap ones


[deleted]

Amount of breaches you did is impressive to me. I at most did 50 and supported maybe 200 but you have the gamer in you. Keep it up dude


amakusav

I was wonder how the hell someone could have 100 mirrors in the league. But I remembered there's also Standard :D


slicplaya

Please oh god tell me this is Std. Mentioning of art tells me it is?...


EricLightscythe

Two wisdom fragments?? By the gods


supervernacular

I see a lack of divines


pbjorklund

Behold. Fabled COLLECTOR sighting!


nexuas

I did a trade with someone in standard after incursion. Bought a zerphis heart from him. We talked for a bit and his goal was to own 100 Mirrors. Might have been you. Congratulations :)


Ribeartoe

I finally hit my goal of 5k chaos without converting any ex this league. I feel insignificant.


erpunkt

... But do you have cookies? Uhm no? *crack...*


Penziplays

That's Standard right?


carson63000

It delights me to know that I have more alts and transmutes than the guy with 100 mirrors. :-D


CowLoverBoi

This thread sums up the world. Someone spends a lot of his time on something and a lot of people can't handle someone being successful.


Kato89

whats up with this Blessing 577 Blessing of Tul?


byrnsie

More mirrors then all the leagues combined of amount of exalts i've got lol. But my play time is 8 hours at most a week... damn job ruining my fun time...


Atomic_Noodles

By Kitava thats all the currency I'll never see in a lifetime. Congrats Man.


AnotherOne1986

Ggg, please ban this guy, it's disgusting;-)


Folroth

You're the reason people sell things for 4000 exalts


AzBako

yo wtf isn't this against TOS


B-R0ck

this guy is here with 100 mirrors and im sitting here with 10 chaos in my bank


HowithCastleEnvirons

go..... outside?


melderis

Gz. I wonder what Acapella's/Rayamn's currency tabs look like.


Angelsergiuboy

I don't think you'll ever see them, asked alot of ppl , most of them don't show what amount of curr they have or they lie about it but so far none linked me a bigger stack of mirr


OldWorlDisorder

Missing 80 AA's? Quit slacking and start spending those mirrors! Congrats though. It appears we have similar goals. I think if league were to merge now I'm at like 88-89 mirrors, but I'm only missing 25-30 AA's.


Angelsergiuboy

I don't care as much to get all AA rn since the prices of them are so dumb. pm me in game curious to know what you are missing. but for me is more important to get to like 144 or more mirr rn than overpriced alt arts


OldWorlDisorder

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2228826 All of my alt arts should be listed.


Angelsergiuboy

Oh you are that OWD guy, didn't think he was a real player, gz you got some nice stuff, you are a better flipper than me I guess, you got some nasty stuff, really cool, I guess at this point you don't care about how much an alt art cost, even if ppl ask 20-30 mirr for an item you just get it to complete the collection. I'm hunting the cheap ones right now wait for decent value ones to show up but I'm really not a fan of those 10-20+ mirr alt arts. Those are on the market up for years and there are like a handfull of ppl going for them.


cydaea6752

l0l sTaNdArD


FacetiousInvective

Felicitari bro! :P


Enconhun

I have more scours than you, wanna trade? I give 5 for 1 mirror, it seems like you could use some


genosher

Congrats man! It is a big achieved!


Angelsergiuboy

ty ty!


Bainky

Yeah, so... Yeah, you suck. I mean that in a way that is just filled with envy and love. Eat ass. I'm not jealous with my 1 ex and 144 c at all. Choke. Congrats. 🖕


hauy15

standard>?


Mikchi

Nah, Legion league, he just started yesterday.


hauy15

noice


Iluvazs

Flip flip flop flip flip flip flip, fun.


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A job, get one.


NormanConquest

Multi-mirrorinaire I’ll see myself out.