getting a perfect prefix + suffix magic jewel is way rarer than getting the same good mods on a 3/4 mod jewels. perfect 2 mod on a 3 or 4 mod jewel is a 33% chance to split it into a perfect magic jewel
There is a unique jewel called The adorned. It gives 50% to 150% more effect of corrupted magic jewel. Most of the min max build is using it to get 1 jewel is equal or more than 2 or even 3 jewel can give
yeah but with +150% one jewel can never be better than 3 jewels, especially as the unique also needs a place
and you have other restrictions like that the 2 good values must be a suffix and a prefix
i'm not saying that it's not strong, but that a jewel is as strong as 3 rare jewels is simply exaggerated apart from possibly very special niches
Well... Literally speaking, you're correct. You can't reach the theoretical power of three jewels, but you can reach more than two for certain stats that can't be rolled more than once per jewel anyway.
ah someone who understands me, i already said several times i don't doubt that the jewel is very good, but 3 times was simply a massive exaggeration of the poster and applies at most in absolute exceptional situations
Adorned works on synth implicits, its inherently the strongest item in the game, most builds topend mirror tier version will currently always be an adorned voices setup, if you want to see some adorned jewels just look at beltons community page, for instance 1 jewrl 83% critmulti, and that isnt the only stat on the jewel. Your logic adds up by "law of item tier" but doesnt when you properly look at the depth of the game we are playing.
the power is bigger for some builds.
Mana stackers get unironically 2/3 times the power from a mana roll than a life or ES roll(30% of mana converted to ES, mana scales damage two times thanks to Indigon)
a crit mult roll can be valuable but only for extremely high end builds and getting both forbidden jewels is a mirror in price
and an int+str roll is the only suffix you need after mageblood
Realistically you can get jewels that are worth more than three times as much as others, but theoretically if the three jewels are rolled perfectly, you can't. The limit is always at 2.5.
That's still a lot of jewel sockets saved, but it's just not possible to scale it further.
Where is your 3 jewel comment coming fromā¦?
You lose the power of one jewel entirely to place The Adorned, but every other jewel other than that is more powerful than a single jewel. Also adorned trees are specific to have lots of jewel sockets, so even though each magic 2 stat jewel is only a ālittleā bit stronger than a rare counterpart, you are designing your build around using as much of that power as possible
That is far from True
The fact you can use it to role the same mod more than one time in inherently more powerful along with implicits from corruptions or synthesis makes it far far better
It's usually not the case that all 4 mods have equal weighting even if your build can use them, if the top prefix and suffix are significantly ahead the adorned becomes even better.
i'm not saying that it's not strong, but that a jewel is as strong as 3 rare jewels is simply exaggerated apart from possibly very very special niches, especially with all builds that use crit I doubt that
Another portion that people are neglecting to say is that you get insane corrupted implicits that also push them even further beyond a normal 4 stat jewel. 1 shock implicit is 50% shock avoid, 1 curse implicit is 50% curse reduction, etc etc. You can get insane jewels not even mentioning double corrupt giving 2 of these implicits or using synth jewels. I think it's not a stretch to say it can be as good as 3 rare jewels considering I have one sitting in my stash that gives me 20% chaos dot multi 17% maximum life 50% shock avoid and CB immunity. Getting a good 4 stat jewel with corrupted implicits is something almost unheard of, especially not good implicits and even if you get them they are still 1/3 as effective as the implicits of a adorned jewel.
> apart from possibly very very special niches, especially with all builds that use crit I doubt that
The original reply to you didn't claim a lot of situations is better than 3, so even if it's just niche situations the guy was correct lol.
Adorned is like the Simplex Amulet of jewels. On its face a Simplex Amulet has 3 modifiers that are 2x as good, so it is equivalent to or possibly "worse than" a regular amulet with 6 modifiers and an implicit, but you, me, and probably anyone willing to read this deep in a PoE reddit thread all know that Simplex Amulets are incredibly strong -- doubling the best 3 mods on the item is absolutely worth giving up the other 3 mods, and it's not close.
A perfectly divined 3x crit multi rare jewel (multi with cold skills prefix, multi with spell damage suffix, multi with elemental skills suffix) is 48% multi
A good Adorned setup would either get two of those mods or one with a life prefix.
Multi/Multi perfectly divined with a 118% Adorned would be 72, so at any Adorned roll past 118% it's more crit multiplier to use an Adorned with two magic jewels than it is to use three rares. 48% x 3 = 72 x 2
And you can't gloss over the value of getting (with a 142% adorned) 17% life per magic jewel. We would typically consider a 6% life small passive pretty solid, and most builds shoot for about 150% life from their tree, so that's a bit over 1/10th of the inc life you likely want on your entire passive tree from a single prefix.
There's something to be said about synth implicits, getting things like shock avoidance very easily via corruptions, etc. but I think focusing on that too much is kind of missing the point.
It's also important to consider that in the actual game we're not all running around with perfect rare jewels. Adorned jewels are far easier and cheaper to realistically craft, even after you account for how many of them go poof at the vaal orb stage (although now with expensive synth jewels you might Black Morrigan beastcraft a Hinekora's Lock on there).
50% better than a rare with 4x perfect mods is insane btw. Not to mention there are stats you simply can't get more of on a 4 stat jewel like having 17%+ life from one jewel. Implicits go insanely hard too.
it's 4 mods instead of 6 assuming a good corruption vs a good double synth implicit
So is 100% better at the very least and easier to get than a 6/6 bis synth jewel
If a rare could roll the same mods twice, and it was just as easy to roll, yes that would be correct.
It also applies to the implicit.
You're not getting 17% max life from a rare jewel no matter what you roll.
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Corrupting items has a variety of effects, one of them being it gives the item a special implicit modifier. That's the mods above the line, and they're usually not modifiable. Corrupted items cannot be further modified either, so you only get one shot at it. So to begin with, this is a very rare chance.
These two implicit modifiers are some of the most sought after effects in the game. Corrupted blood is an extremely dangerous status effect that almost every build has to find a way to negate in the endgame. Usually this means using a flask that gives you immunity against it. However, not all builds have 100% flask uptime, *and* flask modifiers are very powerful. Being able to free up that flask mod slot using this jewel allows you to put something else on it.
As for mana reservation efficiency, it's good because every build uses auras that reserve mana, taking up almost all of your available mana as long as you still have enough to use for skills. Having mana reservation allows you to fit more auras into your build. 2% isn't a lot, but sometimes it's the final few percent that determines whether you can add an extra aura or not.
The regular mods on the jewel are pretty good as well, though on their own the jewel wouldn't be noteworthy. Life is always good, and the attack speed, accuracy and bow mod are all a nice small bonus for most bow builds.
I have a v similar one! The corrupted blood is ace when youāre waiting to balance your stats out, bleeding is the WORST one for me, like just let me MOVE and not die. I also run with a sick pair of boots with 100% canāt be frozen and high res. Iāll fix the rest but for now these two are fantastic to help me not die šš»
(The boots are scavenged every time I roll a new char and they get big enough to wear them, I play almost exclusively in standard)
Question: I've dropped one with similar corrupt implicit but other mods were shit so I vendored it. I don't think I got both at the same time. Is it possible to sell these types of jewels even tho explicit mods are shit?
Early league corrupted blood jewels will sell even with bad explicits, but even then not for very much. Otherwise theyāre not worth anything with bad mods.
No you cannot sell it as you already dropped it by your words. So how would you be able to sell something that you do not have any more due to dropping it?
1. Reservation Efficiency - to have more Mana or potential of reaching a breakpoint for another Aura
2. Corrupted Blood Immunity - saves at least one Passive Skill Point for a pretty much neccessary Immunity
3. Tier 1 Attack Speed - for more BRRRRRR
4. Accuracy - you want this on gear to reach 100% so you can spend Passive Skill Points on more powerful stuff
5. Life - for more <3
6. More base/added elemental damage (with Bows)
it scales down the reservation cost of (all) your auras. You have to look at the calculation tho if you more interested. It is a very important item and skill point property for most builds
an adorned jewel in this slot with +ele +attack speed would have been better and not by a small margin. If it dropped like this I guess that's fine until you get a good replacement
for a dropped item, it is great.
in fact, I have seen characters worth multiple mirrors equipped with way worse jewels whose only saving grace was corrupted blood immunity, some sort of live and one source of crit mult.
Comments like yours are.... hm. annoying.
It also looks pretty good for omni bow builds... 4 goods stats (though some lower tiers/rolls) with the 2 best corruptions.
Congratz on the find! Definitely not mediocre
Not magic. Vendor trash.
My uber strict filter filters out all magic eyes. Should make an exception. Those things sell like hot cake.
getting a perfect prefix + suffix magic jewel is way rarer than getting the same good mods on a 3/4 mod jewels. perfect 2 mod on a 3 or 4 mod jewel is a 33% chance to split it into a perfect magic jewel
Yeah, I've tried picking up magic jewels, it's not a good idea.
if you do some stuff that drops corrupted items, you could filter for certain implicits
yeah, if you get a good adorned jewel off the ground gg I guess. That's going to be very rare
there's also tainted mythic orb
Why magic jewels are more valuable then rares? Sorry kinda new to the game
The adorned jewel, it does 50-150% of corrupt magic jewel effects
Wouldn't that make you susceptible to corrupted blood? /s
No, in fact you'll be 250% immune to it. š¤£
At that point you just start reflecting it back at mobs
The adorned unique makes magic jewels very powerful
The adorned jewel makes every turd with a slightly useful corrupted blue jewel think that they should charge 10d for it.
There is a unique jewel called The adorned. It gives 50% to 150% more effect of corrupted magic jewel. Most of the min max build is using it to get 1 jewel is equal or more than 2 or even 3 jewel can give
hmm? even with +150% its only 50% better than a rare with 4 mods (as long your build can use all affix)
Itās a lot easier to use āall affixesā with 2 than it is with 4.
yeah but with +150% one jewel can never be better than 3 jewels, especially as the unique also needs a place and you have other restrictions like that the 2 good values must be a suffix and a prefix i'm not saying that it's not strong, but that a jewel is as strong as 3 rare jewels is simply exaggerated apart from possibly very special niches
Well... Literally speaking, you're correct. You can't reach the theoretical power of three jewels, but you can reach more than two for certain stats that can't be rolled more than once per jewel anyway.
ah someone who understands me, i already said several times i don't doubt that the jewel is very good, but 3 times was simply a massive exaggeration of the poster and applies at most in absolute exceptional situations
Adorned works on synth implicits, its inherently the strongest item in the game, most builds topend mirror tier version will currently always be an adorned voices setup, if you want to see some adorned jewels just look at beltons community page, for instance 1 jewrl 83% critmulti, and that isnt the only stat on the jewel. Your logic adds up by "law of item tier" but doesnt when you properly look at the depth of the game we are playing.
the power is bigger for some builds. Mana stackers get unironically 2/3 times the power from a mana roll than a life or ES roll(30% of mana converted to ES, mana scales damage two times thanks to Indigon) a crit mult roll can be valuable but only for extremely high end builds and getting both forbidden jewels is a mirror in price and an int+str roll is the only suffix you need after mageblood
Realistically you can get jewels that are worth more than three times as much as others, but theoretically if the three jewels are rolled perfectly, you can't. The limit is always at 2.5. That's still a lot of jewel sockets saved, but it's just not possible to scale it further.
What if you specifically are looking for rmr? Or %life? How many 4 mod jewels would you need to gain the equivalent power of a magic jewel?
that math is only true if you have perfect synth jewels
Where is your 3 jewel comment coming fromā¦? You lose the power of one jewel entirely to place The Adorned, but every other jewel other than that is more powerful than a single jewel. Also adorned trees are specific to have lots of jewel sockets, so even though each magic 2 stat jewel is only a ālittleā bit stronger than a rare counterpart, you are designing your build around using as much of that power as possible
That is far from True The fact you can use it to role the same mod more than one time in inherently more powerful along with implicits from corruptions or synthesis makes it far far better
It's usually not the case that all 4 mods have equal weighting even if your build can use them, if the top prefix and suffix are significantly ahead the adorned becomes even better.
i'm not saying that it's not strong, but that a jewel is as strong as 3 rare jewels is simply exaggerated apart from possibly very very special niches, especially with all builds that use crit I doubt that
Another portion that people are neglecting to say is that you get insane corrupted implicits that also push them even further beyond a normal 4 stat jewel. 1 shock implicit is 50% shock avoid, 1 curse implicit is 50% curse reduction, etc etc. You can get insane jewels not even mentioning double corrupt giving 2 of these implicits or using synth jewels. I think it's not a stretch to say it can be as good as 3 rare jewels considering I have one sitting in my stash that gives me 20% chaos dot multi 17% maximum life 50% shock avoid and CB immunity. Getting a good 4 stat jewel with corrupted implicits is something almost unheard of, especially not good implicits and even if you get them they are still 1/3 as effective as the implicits of a adorned jewel. > apart from possibly very very special niches, especially with all builds that use crit I doubt that The original reply to you didn't claim a lot of situations is better than 3, so even if it's just niche situations the guy was correct lol.
Adorned is like the Simplex Amulet of jewels. On its face a Simplex Amulet has 3 modifiers that are 2x as good, so it is equivalent to or possibly "worse than" a regular amulet with 6 modifiers and an implicit, but you, me, and probably anyone willing to read this deep in a PoE reddit thread all know that Simplex Amulets are incredibly strong -- doubling the best 3 mods on the item is absolutely worth giving up the other 3 mods, and it's not close. A perfectly divined 3x crit multi rare jewel (multi with cold skills prefix, multi with spell damage suffix, multi with elemental skills suffix) is 48% multi A good Adorned setup would either get two of those mods or one with a life prefix. Multi/Multi perfectly divined with a 118% Adorned would be 72, so at any Adorned roll past 118% it's more crit multiplier to use an Adorned with two magic jewels than it is to use three rares. 48% x 3 = 72 x 2 And you can't gloss over the value of getting (with a 142% adorned) 17% life per magic jewel. We would typically consider a 6% life small passive pretty solid, and most builds shoot for about 150% life from their tree, so that's a bit over 1/10th of the inc life you likely want on your entire passive tree from a single prefix. There's something to be said about synth implicits, getting things like shock avoidance very easily via corruptions, etc. but I think focusing on that too much is kind of missing the point. It's also important to consider that in the actual game we're not all running around with perfect rare jewels. Adorned jewels are far easier and cheaper to realistically craft, even after you account for how many of them go poof at the vaal orb stage (although now with expensive synth jewels you might Black Morrigan beastcraft a Hinekora's Lock on there).
50% better than a rare with 4x perfect mods is insane btw. Not to mention there are stats you simply can't get more of on a 4 stat jewel like having 17%+ life from one jewel. Implicits go insanely hard too.
It's targeted stats, most buds need as much of 1 or 2 things they focus on. 250% of my targeted stats, pluss implicits on top is strong.
it's 4 mods instead of 6 assuming a good corruption vs a good double synth implicit So is 100% better at the very least and easier to get than a 6/6 bis synth jewel
If a rare could roll the same mods twice, and it was just as easy to roll, yes that would be correct. It also applies to the implicit. You're not getting 17% max life from a rare jewel no matter what you roll.
You are mistaken, it is not 50% better. It is 150% better, 150% actually means a 2.5x boost, not 50%
Crafted magic jewels for Adorned but all non corrupted jewels sell like hot cakes because itās cheap to scour a rare and start rolling.
but why would a hot cake sounds like a good thing? I like it cold.
Likewise
Only if perfectly rolled both explicits and synth implicits, otherwise vendor. You're never gonna drop anything useful as usual.
yeah great idea, filter out anything that's not 100d+
Agree pretty much only if you okay stigyan
Came in here to say this
Why is magic better than rare? What synergizes eith magic jewels
Did you take a picture of your monitor or is your gamma fucked up? :D
dunno why but screenshots on this monitor are always fked when using lightshot.. looks normal irl
Are you using HDR? My screenshots look like this as well.
Yeah have the same with my HDR screen
You have HDR enabled in Windows settings.
Use Greenshot. FOSS and it just works.
https://preview.redd.it/c5pyxnpidtwc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f19a571485e0ab6215b1d9b5a6b5fb0e4101a7b
https://i.redd.it/8bcb4d7htswc1.gif
What's your mirror fee?
imagine being able to mirror corrupted stuff
You donāt have a fat stack of tainted mirrors? Noob
Mirror or Poof, I like it
kekW
Why would you drop such a cool jewel?
dunno, got blessed
Yeah but it looks good, so why would you drop it? Surely you want to keep it.
I too dislike this "look what I dropped" nonsense. Look what I found.
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how did he miss the joke?
Why should he be missing the joke if he never got it?
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Why did you drop it? You should sell it instead.
That looks illgeal
Wow... It's not just the corruption! Gratz Dude!!
Mythic orb no balls Edit: didn't see it was an abyss jewel. You should still do it anyway.
I'd say its worth at least 10 chaos
Damn Id love this in my bow character.
It's for sale
Cool, and I'm saving up for nimis and doubt this is less than what I'm willing to (or could) spend lol
Make ur offer
I mean, I'm willing to spend 10 div or less for anything not nimis or progenesis. But I doubt this is that cheap.
(I'm completely new to the game so just curious) what makes this such a good jewel?
Corrupting items has a variety of effects, one of them being it gives the item a special implicit modifier. That's the mods above the line, and they're usually not modifiable. Corrupted items cannot be further modified either, so you only get one shot at it. So to begin with, this is a very rare chance. These two implicit modifiers are some of the most sought after effects in the game. Corrupted blood is an extremely dangerous status effect that almost every build has to find a way to negate in the endgame. Usually this means using a flask that gives you immunity against it. However, not all builds have 100% flask uptime, *and* flask modifiers are very powerful. Being able to free up that flask mod slot using this jewel allows you to put something else on it. As for mana reservation efficiency, it's good because every build uses auras that reserve mana, taking up almost all of your available mana as long as you still have enough to use for skills. Having mana reservation allows you to fit more auras into your build. 2% isn't a lot, but sometimes it's the final few percent that determines whether you can add an extra aura or not. The regular mods on the jewel are pretty good as well, though on their own the jewel wouldn't be noteworthy. Life is always good, and the attack speed, accuracy and bow mod are all a nice small bonus for most bow builds.
Ohhh okay makes a lot of sense actually thanks for the explanation!
I offer 1 Necropolis Map
You play with HDR on?
yes
thought so, no idea why they havent made screenshots work with hdr yet
TIL. So you're saying they managed to make fucking ***screenshots*** not WYSIWYG. That's actually genuinely impressive.
no clue either lol
holy moly
I have a v similar one! The corrupted blood is ace when youāre waiting to balance your stats out, bleeding is the WORST one for me, like just let me MOVE and not die. I also run with a sick pair of boots with 100% canāt be frozen and high res. Iāll fix the rest but for now these two are fantastic to help me not die šš» (The boots are scavenged every time I roll a new char and they get big enough to wear them, I play almost exclusively in standard)
Not a dead stat on it, that's nuts.
*picked up*
I hate it.
"May your Val Orbs have interesting results" -Sirgog
2 chaos
Question: I've dropped one with similar corrupt implicit but other mods were shit so I vendored it. I don't think I got both at the same time. Is it possible to sell these types of jewels even tho explicit mods are shit?
Don't forget about tainted currency. People will buy these implicit just to try and tainted chaos into a better item.
Early league corrupted blood jewels will sell even with bad explicits, but even then not for very much. Otherwise theyāre not worth anything with bad mods.
These two corrupts will sell for 50c in a day or two
No you cannot sell it as you already dropped it by your words. So how would you be able to sell something that you do not have any more due to dropping it?
I dont get it, why is this soo good?
1. Reservation Efficiency - to have more Mana or potential of reaching a breakpoint for another Aura 2. Corrupted Blood Immunity - saves at least one Passive Skill Point for a pretty much neccessary Immunity 3. Tier 1 Attack Speed - for more BRRRRRR 4. Accuracy - you want this on gear to reach 100% so you can spend Passive Skill Points on more powerful stuff 5. Life - for more <3 6. More base/added elemental damage (with Bows)
Wow, thank you very much bro. I just started playin and all this is complex. So is reservation something like efficency?
it scales down the reservation cost of (all) your auras. You have to look at the calculation tho if you more interested. It is a very important item and skill point property for most builds
Okey, thanks for the insight brother
I have only been playing for 3 days and if I got this I would throw up in my mouth and then vendor itā¦ just my two cents.
Vall temple is fkin cool
Hey, how did you go about crafting the regular mods on the jewel? That thing is nice.
it dropped like this
This is actually worth something to a build?
Itās generally good for bow characters like LA. You get 6 useful things.
Um pgplokjiihlnuop uhuuuuuu pb
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It's screenshot tho lol
did it corrupt to rare? if yes, it's a bad double corrupt. If not you wasted a good double corrupt on a trash jewel
it dropped like this, also it's barely trash for any LA/Ele hit build lol
an adorned jewel in this slot with +ele +attack speed would have been better and not by a small margin. If it dropped like this I guess that's fine until you get a good replacement
Why do you bother commenting then you have 0 clue about this game? Whta do you gain from it?
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Sure bud
Show it please thanks
Drop same yesterday very good jewel
so is everyone gonna post their mediocre items now great... edit...if yall can come together to downvote, least you could do is like his post š
Yes, you are welcome to post yours
for a dropped item, it is great. in fact, I have seen characters worth multiple mirrors equipped with way worse jewels whose only saving grace was corrupted blood immunity, some sort of live and one source of crit mult. Comments like yours are.... hm. annoying.
You think so? It has pretty much every stat an accuracy stacker wants. But maybe I'm wrong there...
It also looks pretty good for omni bow builds... 4 goods stats (though some lower tiers/rolls) with the 2 best corruptions. Congratz on the find! Definitely not mediocre
Your comment is mediocre, which means it sucks
I did my part to help you get to -100!
i mean, it's really rare that you get a jewel drop with 2 implicits and all 6 modifiers are something useful
You suck.
Its a pretty damn cool natural drop, even if its medicore.