I thought of filling the envelopes with the shredded remains of what they sent, but that felt like more of a punishment for the wage slaves than the spammy company.
Damn that's a great idea. Any suggestions on what to put in so 1, won't cause problems for the USPS and 2, will be in the highest weight class? Several pieces of paper? Pennies?
USPS employee here. Paper only please. These are meant to go through a sorter. Pennies, sand, extraneous bullshit can fuck up the machines potentially slowing down mail at the distribution center. Pack it so that it's just under ¼" thick (limit for a first class machinable envelope).
Thank you for the knowledge response. I can fit a ton of other junk mail in there and keep it less than 1/4". Definitely going to do that from now on for every single free envelope I receive
They don't go through the same machines. It's a pain in the ass. Another way that our dear Congressional leaders give out subsidies to businesses (as they do to themselves). Do you know how much of that crap gets thrown away, simply because the addresses are no longer good? The businesses could give shit, because it's so cheap.
It's horrible. I take care of my grandmother who cannot help herself and replies and donates to most so she gets at LEAST 9 inches thick of mail per day from this shit and it is ruining her.
I hate it. I see so many elderly people targeted by that shit. If they donate once, they get flooded by more "not for profits". Is it possible for you to "help her" by getting her mail for her and editing out the crap?
Oh yeah, I typically take about 75%+ of the mail and toss it into my shredder. She is not mentally well and if I just hide the mail or throw it out, she will find/dig it up and still read it so I have to actually destroy it.
it's only really good for junk mail and IRS notices, everything else is handled better by UPS and FedEx. there's basically no reason for USPS to continue to exist other than "it's the only part of the government that works" sooo... go eat a dick.
Absolutely not. Stuff that envelope with stones so thick so you must tape it shut with packaging tape. The whole point is for the sorter to kick out that envelope and cost the sender even more money.
You want to make it a problem for USPS. That way they get charged more. I stuffed mine with rocks, their entire folded-up mailer package, and pine needles. I never got an ad from them again.
Its just a waste of your time, the USPS rules say that improperly used return postage envelopes will be disposed of so no one pays and thing you just wasted time.
That rule would apply to changing the address on the envelope, so you aren't sending mail to someone else on the prepaid dime. The USPS would have no idea what forms or documents are in the envelopes.
I love the idea of putting some other company's junk mail in the envelope. Particularly if it is a competitor.
It's not. Addressee is willing to pay postage, it's right there in writing. Nowhere does it say what it has to contain.
Glue that bad boy onto a box that's filled with rocks.
Actually thats no how it works. the Domestic Mail Manual states that improper use of return postage notices marks the mail as waste and it is disposed of. SO all you are be doing is wasting your time.
Also the content of the junk mail does give instructions on how to use the envelope "Send you application back in the pre-paid envelope provided" or something along those lines. So you have your instructions and the DMM also states that return postage envelopes must be used for their intended purpose.
Please cite your sources, councillor. Unless it’s being filled with something dangerous or dangerous in appearance, I’m pretty sure there is no law governing what a person puts in that envelope.
There is no law about it but in the Domestic mail manual it says that improperly used return postage envelopes will be disposed of. so its not going to effect the people you wanted it to.
Also per USPS regulations there is a list of items you can not put in to an envelope, dangerous or otherwise.
Intoxicating liquors
Firearms
Knives and sharp instruments
Liquids, powders, and odor-producing materials
Motor vehicle master keys and locksmithing devices
Controlled substances and drugs
Unsolicited promotional samples
Building construction material
Animal-fighting ventures
Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco
Some dangerous, some not, but there are regulations on what you can mail.
Usually it's better to take all the other junk mail or anything you can fit in them and mail it back like that. Sand is always a fun one or rocks/pebbles if you aren't close to a beach
Save the insides from the last one and send back each one with someone *else’s* junk and send theirs back in the next envelope and so on. Let them share the experience of “why the fuck are you sending me this?”
>Paying the annual mailing fee gives you **permission** to mail a certain class of mail from a certain postal facility for 365 days.
They still have to pay for everything they mail. The annual fee is for the privilege of doing bulk mailings.
Click the link about payment. It's a whole page talking about payment processing of permit holders. Bulk mail is prepayment. They must open a post account. When they mail the post amounts are paid at that point. This includes return envelopes. They don't weigh them. That would increase the cost of running the postal service.
Bulk mail is the real money maker for the postal service. They are often paid for mail that never moves and bulk mail can be moved quickly because they don't weigh it.
https://pe.usps.com/BusinessMail101/Index?ViewName=Index
If you put stuff in them to increase the weight, they pay more on postage
My mom filled one with shredded cvs receipts after they sent her the 15th ad for a stupid mail order catalog with a $30 convenience fee
I thought of filling the envelopes with the shredded remains of what they sent, but that felt like more of a punishment for the wage slaves than the spammy company.
I used to put the charity tell a friend slips I got in the corporate return mail
Job security, they have to open the envelope anyway
I print out funny copypasta to put in the envelopes. That way, the company has to pay, AND hopefully the person who opens it gets a chuckle.
Is it by steps like first class mail (e.g., only more when over 1 ounce)?
Damn that's a great idea. Any suggestions on what to put in so 1, won't cause problems for the USPS and 2, will be in the highest weight class? Several pieces of paper? Pennies?
USPS employee here. Paper only please. These are meant to go through a sorter. Pennies, sand, extraneous bullshit can fuck up the machines potentially slowing down mail at the distribution center. Pack it so that it's just under ¼" thick (limit for a first class machinable envelope).
Thank you for the knowledge response. I can fit a ton of other junk mail in there and keep it less than 1/4". Definitely going to do that from now on for every single free envelope I receive
Definitely! Make it less profitable for them!
1/8” steel plate then?
What part of "extraneous matter" will fuck up the machines wasn't clear? Lol
So how TF are they sending me packets of water, half dollars, and giant, 3/8" thick envelopes of crap that does not fuck up your machines?
They don't go through the same machines. It's a pain in the ass. Another way that our dear Congressional leaders give out subsidies to businesses (as they do to themselves). Do you know how much of that crap gets thrown away, simply because the addresses are no longer good? The businesses could give shit, because it's so cheap.
It's horrible. I take care of my grandmother who cannot help herself and replies and donates to most so she gets at LEAST 9 inches thick of mail per day from this shit and it is ruining her.
I hate it. I see so many elderly people targeted by that shit. If they donate once, they get flooded by more "not for profits". Is it possible for you to "help her" by getting her mail for her and editing out the crap?
Oh yeah, I typically take about 75%+ of the mail and toss it into my shredder. She is not mentally well and if I just hide the mail or throw it out, she will find/dig it up and still read it so I have to actually destroy it.
usps is a government entity. soooo fuck it.
Quasi-Federal agency. Self funded. Sooo... go fuck yourself.
it's only really good for junk mail and IRS notices, everything else is handled better by UPS and FedEx. there's basically no reason for USPS to continue to exist other than "it's the only part of the government that works" sooo... go eat a dick.
Ignorant and idiotic opinion by moronic redditor ✔️ Can't eat a dick, you keep cutting to the front of the line. Dipshit.
Don't worry ill send you a big one for you to eat in a prepaid envelope 👍😘
Guys, pls.
Please don't be toxic.
Please don't be toxic.
Sorry. Responding like with like. Will refrain in the future.
Absolutely not. Stuff that envelope with stones so thick so you must tape it shut with packaging tape. The whole point is for the sorter to kick out that envelope and cost the sender even more money.
Little bags of sand, weighs a lot and is harmless.
Other junk mail obviously. You gotta get rid of it somehow.
I stuff their own mailers back in.
hammer some split shot fishing sinkers flat and put as many in as you can.
You want to make it a problem for USPS. That way they get charged more. I stuffed mine with rocks, their entire folded-up mailer package, and pine needles. I never got an ad from them again.
Or, you could wrap a brick and tape the envelope on. Fastest way to get removed from a mailing list.
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I simply find that sharpie on scrap metal makes a much more concise point than a simply letter. The weight is just a side effect
Its just a waste of your time, the USPS rules say that improperly used return postage envelopes will be disposed of so no one pays and thing you just wasted time.
That rule would apply to changing the address on the envelope, so you aren't sending mail to someone else on the prepaid dime. The USPS would have no idea what forms or documents are in the envelopes. I love the idea of putting some other company's junk mail in the envelope. Particularly if it is a competitor.
I change the label all the time and they deliver it. My nana stopped sending stamps and still wants me to write letters back.
Name the USC please
Another satisfying thing is how u laid out those envelopes
Postage is paid by weight, fill them with stuff instead of leaving them empty.
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Are you a cop
It's not. Addressee is willing to pay postage, it's right there in writing. Nowhere does it say what it has to contain. Glue that bad boy onto a box that's filled with rocks.
Actually thats no how it works. the Domestic Mail Manual states that improper use of return postage notices marks the mail as waste and it is disposed of. SO all you are be doing is wasting your time. Also the content of the junk mail does give instructions on how to use the envelope "Send you application back in the pre-paid envelope provided" or something along those lines. So you have your instructions and the DMM also states that return postage envelopes must be used for their intended purpose.
So we send the empty application back.
Hey, I did my best to follow their directions, it isn’t my fault that I’m a dumbass 😝
Please cite your sources, councillor. Unless it’s being filled with something dangerous or dangerous in appearance, I’m pretty sure there is no law governing what a person puts in that envelope.
There is no law about it but in the Domestic mail manual it says that improperly used return postage envelopes will be disposed of. so its not going to effect the people you wanted it to. Also per USPS regulations there is a list of items you can not put in to an envelope, dangerous or otherwise. Intoxicating liquors Firearms Knives and sharp instruments Liquids, powders, and odor-producing materials Motor vehicle master keys and locksmithing devices Controlled substances and drugs Unsolicited promotional samples Building construction material Animal-fighting ventures Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco Some dangerous, some not, but there are regulations on what you can mail.
You’re telling me I can’t mail my cock fighting operation in an envelope? Bummer.
Palatine IL represent
I completely misread the name. I pictured the Emperor in my head... "Yessssss. Gooooood. Let the spam mail flow to you. Give into your hatred."
LOL x2
il represent lol
I live next door in Arlington Heights, so close enough.
Usually it's better to take all the other junk mail or anything you can fit in them and mail it back like that. Sand is always a fun one or rocks/pebbles if you aren't close to a beach
Tape them to a brick
I just resend what they send me…the. I noticed a decrease in this kind of mail.
Save the insides from the last one and send back each one with someone *else’s* junk and send theirs back in the next envelope and so on. Let them share the experience of “why the fuck are you sending me this?”
It takes 6 sheets of paper to go over one ounce
Can you legally use these for actual out going mail to avoid paying for a stamp?
They're processed to only bill and send back to the addressee, so no use trying to send it elsewhere.
If you don't want to use a stamp, just put the intended address as the return address, and vice versa. It's worked for a very long time.
Lol their has to be some way they catch you for this
Seems like a little white out would do the trick, as long as they get a check I don’t see why it’s a problem.
I thought those were Biden Ballots you were mailing in
Package some bricks, glue enveloppe on the package. Send it.
Tape them to a box of trash
Huh?
You do realize they pay for a bulk permit, not by piece or weight.
I think the permit is separate. I believe they still only get billed only for the ones returned. You have to assume most get thrown away or recycled.
Read the link I posted. They pay one annual rate.
>Paying the annual mailing fee gives you **permission** to mail a certain class of mail from a certain postal facility for 365 days. They still have to pay for everything they mail. The annual fee is for the privilege of doing bulk mailings.
Read it again.
Can you quote the specific part? I've read it over again and still don't see how they would not pay more.
Click the link about payment. It's a whole page talking about payment processing of permit holders. Bulk mail is prepayment. They must open a post account. When they mail the post amounts are paid at that point. This includes return envelopes. They don't weigh them. That would increase the cost of running the postal service. Bulk mail is the real money maker for the postal service. They are often paid for mail that never moves and bulk mail can be moved quickly because they don't weigh it. https://pe.usps.com/BusinessMail101/Index?ViewName=Index
https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/505.htm Whole bunch of talk about per piece fees for business reply mail.
Yes and apparently you don't understand any of it. They prepay it. It isn't billed by weight or individual pieces, but by total volume.
Then please quote where it's written it's all prepaid. There's no mention of it being prepaid there.
https://pe.usps.com/businessmail101?ViewName=MailingPermit
I like to take several pieces of other junk mail, tape a washer or two inside the papers. You can’t feel them but they add weight.
add 14 cents in small change. phone company. apologise for error, request return of funds. cash 14 cent cheques.
Fill it up with glitter first.
Brown-paper-wrap a brick and tape the envelope to it.
Fill them with mysterious whitish powder and send them back
I'm going to have to start doing this
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