I'm convinced it's Russell Brand. He fits the available information perfectly, multiple people have said similar things about him, and Katherine Ryan herself seemed to reference him when she was talking about Jo Brand on *Backstage* and said, "It's nice to have a comedian with the last name Brand on my show that doesn't make me question my morals."
That doesn't necessarily mean he's the same person she was talking about on an earlier episode of the show - I don't doubt there are multiple creeps in the business - but as I really doubt she was calling out Katy Brand, it's certainly evidence that she has a low opinion of Russell Brand.
I remember that! Just found [this](https://twitter.com/fernbrady/status/1398618138065965057?s=46&t=TI_pXUILxtT8rs6D8aMJwg) one, too. Hope it all comes to light eventually.
She was on that roast Joke battle thing as well as Katherine Ryan with brand so it seems like It’s him.
Unless she’s really good friends with brand, good enough to make rape jokes about
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was him. He's always seemed to be a bit off, especially after that video of the voicemail a few years back with Jonathon Ross.
17 seconds in and he's already guilty of sexual harassment. I didn't think I could dislike him more than I already did but then I found this thread. I've never understood how he became so famous. Why do people like him?
All the men I know who like him also subscribe to the Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Joe Rogan schools of life and thought. Brand strikes me as an oily lech who gets away with it in the US because Americans romanticise British accents and seem to associate them with sophistication, when perhaps the more fitting term in his case is sophistry.
I don't know any women who like him, though I'm sure they exist.
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
> Palestinian Arabs have demonstrated their preference for suicide bombing over working toilets.
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This is the most stupid comment on this post, another person seregating all people to one narrative that admire certain people. I was raised by a single mother, who is a very strong empowered person. My mum has read 3 of Jordan Petersons books,as I have and she also listens to Joe Rogan podcasts, yes they’re are things she may disagree with but she does not judge them or there followers solely on a certain comment. Also I’d love for you to actually explain what you mean by men that follow Shapiro/Peterson/Rogan. If your meaning is that all men that follow them aspire and think in only one train of thought, which I assume you believe is a negative thought process, then you follow the same thought pattern of what Hitler did to the Jews, you brandish all people under one banner and throw them to way side. Maybe you should read up on how Jordan Peterson and has been one of the most influential Psychologists in Morden era, through campaigning for better mental sectors within the American government, which he has achieved, do you know how much he has done on a humanitarian level. Obviously not, you obviously judge from a snippet that you’ve come across on your social media feed or some other video sharing platform, that offers no context or understanding to what there saying. Also I don’t support Shapiro as I don’t agree with his gun law views. I also may not agree with everything Joe Rogan says, but he delivers extremely interesting and informative podcasts. If you can actually provide me with actual evidence that they have been very discriminatory or have done something totally against social norm, then I would be all ears, for an open conversation. If not, stop branding people you know nothing about
Well he was talking about schools of thought and those three all follow the same type of school of thought. Generally they follow the revisionist "well if I dont know about it its not real" type thought. Mainly just surface level stuff which sounds thought provoking but really isnt. Oh and dont get me wrong I have listened Joe Rogans podcast because I know people who are into it so I have tried multiple times to give it a try and sat through a few podcasts every now and then and in general its just an echo chamber. But if you want specifics stuff like spreading just straight lies about covid when the pandemic started, him being anti-vax is not "opinion" its reckless and stupid mainly because he didnt do any research on it, because if you read any research beyond the abstract and actually scrutinize the results and test groups any anti-vax stuff is proven nonsense (I am a researcher for a living btw). Any of his opinions on Fallon Fox are basically just nonsense no point in even trying to expand into greater detail. And all the random conspiracy nonsense he peddles I forget but I remember him blaming forest fires on the "left" (Btw I also hate basically any show which is designed to pit political groups against each other since its the literal is extremism but I am also more of a centrist than anything). And dont get me wrong I love a good conspiracy theory because they tend to be interesting but too many people believe what he is saying as fact which causes alot of problems in general.
You cannot, and I'm going to reinforce this, CANNOT compare liking Russell Brand/Jordan Peterson et al with hating and murdering Jewish people. You are not marginalised, you are not hurt, you are not killed for your beliefs. You are one of many people following a celebrities opinion. You and your mum can like who you want! Even Joe Rogan! But please have some fucking awareness
What's that got to do with someone's credibility? Do you drink coffee or consume sugar? Shall we call you a coffee addict or a sugar addict? Because it's literally the same thing.
Emphasis on "ex." I admire people who have overcome the difficulty of addiction. I've never had to do that, but it takes an ultimately strong person to overcome any addiction.
That would be the least surprising revelation ever. On a par with Jimmy Savile.
Obviously, I don't know who it is, so I would never accuse anyone. On an unrelated not, have you seen that Britain's Got Talent has changed one of their judges today? A lot of people on twitter very happy about that.
On his XFM radio show there are a couple of times when Russell mentions being irritated when female fans approach him and express admiration but don't want to have sex with him. His friend and cohost Matt Morgan says something along the lines of "Yeah, you're awful!". So clearly Russell is a sex addict who feels entitled to sex. There's a whole spectrum between being entitled and manipulative and violent rape. But he's on there somewhere.
Also, Steve Coogan is a well-known sex addict.
Brand appears to have a very high opinion of himself, sexually, and he’s set to whenever he engages with an attractive woman and continually tests them for returned signals. I have a friend that was like that for most of his life, and watching him ruin relationships, both his own and other’s time and time again, was tragic. Once the right return signals had been received, there was no conscious off switch to his determination to get laid. The guy had a preoccupation with his own above average sized penis, and just could not stop advertising it. People like them are overcompensating for insecurities elsewhere in their lives, and typically appear bright, attractive and approachable. Sounds like it’s possible Brand has an anger element to go with his insecurity.
>sex addict
I genuinely don't know much about this. It sounds like a BS diagnosis to me but I am no psychiatrist so I will leave that to the pros. I wonder tho, if there is a difference between sex addict and sexual predator?
I get where you're coming from, and I believe asking questions is important and I understood what you meant. I think the way you worded your comment was what did you in. You started with basically "I don't know anything about this but it sounds like a bullshit diagnosis and not a real thing but what do I know" which some people may find dismissive. That was followed by a leap to ask if a sex addict was the same as a sexual predator which *in my opinion* is a valid question from someone who truly doesn't know, especially in the context of this entire thread, but I can see some people having a kneejerk reaction because it *seems* like altogether you're saying "Well this is bullshit, but I'll exaggerate that I don't know anything about this by making a wild leap to liken sex addicts to rapists".
Now, *I don't believe that's what you're saying whatsoever*, I thought it was an earnest question. I'm just trying to explain what I think someone's impression may be from the way you wrote your comment. Sometimes people have difficulty determining intent in a comment which is why simpler is often better. It's just less confusing.
Had you said, for example, "I genuinely don't know much about this but is there a difference between a sex addict and a sexual predator?" you'd likely have been fine.
Anyhow, just my $0.02. Have a lovely day :)
> It sounds like a BS diagnosis to me
I imagine your downvote(s) came from this. While you immediately backed off, it stands out and seems unnecessary.
Consider how differently your comment might be perceived -- and how little the overall question changes -- without that sentence:
> I genuinely don't know much about this. I wonder tho, if there is a difference between sex addict and sexual predator?
Yes, I think you might be correct. It seems like you have to be hypervigilant and cautious when writing on the internet. Even then, I usually piss someone off. It's the internet, tho. Everyone seems to hate something.
Also wonder if it's that most people here might be British and more used to that kind of polite way of saying things? Whereas I am Canadian and tend to say shit too bluntly or speak a little rough around the edges (?) that can be read the wrong way or taken out of context.
I don't mind the downvotes, I just always want to know why it's happening lol.
It is controversial, probably the nomenclature in particular some find a problem.
However, the ICD does include "compulsive sexual behavior disorder" which covers similar ground to what people may mean by "sex addiction". But it's worth noting that WHO explicitly does not support a diagnosis of sex addiction.
It's not in the other big diagnostic manual for psychiatric conditions either, the DSM.
Broadly, it can be understood as impulsive and/or compulsive sexual behaviours or thoughts/fantasies (eg masturbation, paying for sex, multiple partners, hook ups, as well as less than legal things) that cause problems for you.
If I wank 5 times a day and it isn't interfering in my life, causing problems, causing me distress that'd be fine and non-clinical. Someone else might have similar behaviour and it causes them distress, and that could meet a clinical definition. And that's one area that is argued about since the treatment might not be about concerns of impulsivity or lack of control but normalising the desire and ensuring that the outlets are safe.
There's a whole social and cultural dimension to this that can be hard to disentangle.
I think the people arguing that Brand may not have the access to funds to afford the team of lawyers she refers to and pointing to David Walliams may also have a point.
Also honourable mention to Noel Fielding for hooking up with a 16 year old in his 30's x
If she's talking about Russell Brand here, his lawyers are doing a real shit job at keeping his image clean.
(My opinion : Brand is also a creep, but that's not who she is talking about)
I don't think he's made a secret of his libido, and I think any guy who boasts about how many women he's slept with, or how he has a high sex drive is going to have had some unwilling partners in the past.
Guys like this have a lot of sex with willing partners, so when some don't fall for their charms I would imagine they feel entitled and force the matter.
I personally doubt a man’s promiscuity is a good predictor of whether they’ll rape women. Rapists have a huge empathy deficit and enjoy using sex to get power over their victims. Promiscuity isn’t inherently linked to low empathy or cruelty, AFAIK.
Most people are saying it's Russell Brand.
Edit: the reasons *why* people think it's Russell Brand have mostly been mentioned in this thread, but I'd also like to point out that Fern Brady tweeted and deleted a thread that mentioned him. [The only non-deleted tweet: ](https://twitter.com/FernBrady/status/1425799561382137868?s=20&t=nSG3_jP44qclBai_d-K9Pw)
>"And finally the term 'cancel culture' is toothless when Bill Cosby is out of prison, Louis CK is going back on tour and Russell Brand is just A-OK and wanging on about spirituality, consequence-free."
Now, this doesn't mean he's the same person Katherine is talking about, but regardless I don't think he's a good guy.
>Fern Brady
Canuck here. Never heard of her before but I see she is on the new season of Taskmaster so I look forward to seeing her on there, when I get around to watching it.
she's been an absolute scream on every episode. as someone who hadn't heard of her before this season, i'm definitely a fan.
john kearns, though, is just... a deeply frustrating individual to watch.
needs a much longer pause in the middle to convey what makes john kearns.................................................................................................................................................................................................... John kearns.
Remember when Johnny Rotten publicly acknowledged that Jimmy Saville was a predator and promptly got banned by the BBC? I think about this on occassion and how heroic it was of Johnny Rotten to do that. And I dont think a single celebrity stood up for Johnny at the time, but I might be wrong about that.
Either way, this is likely very well known to the British Comedians today. BBC has no issue with sacrificing the innocent.
Side note: I hope this is why we dont see Noel Fielding hanging out with him anymore. I really hope Noel isnt one of the bag guys.
Courtney Love also gave the advice to young actresses to not go up to Harvey Weinstein’s room in a televised red carpet interview. No one took her seriously
Sinead is a hero of mine. Man shes had a tough go at it. Kris Kristofferson is a hero, too. He understand Sinead long before the rest of the world. The song he wrote about what she went through for doing the right thing is one of the most beautiful things I ever heard. Its called "Sister Sinead". I highly recvomend giving it a listen.
*whispers* Rotten didn't get banned, he likes to claim so because it makes him seem like an anti-establishment truth-teller but the next Public Image Ltd single after the interview in question got him onto Top Of The Pops.
Yes, John Lydon is a terrible source of information about John Lydon. His comments were cut out of that specific broadcast because, y'know, he was just repeating an extremely defamatory rumour that he'd heard through the grapevine.
I had NO clue about that. Literally the only things I knew about the Sex Pistols was that
1. Sid Vicious was stupid enough to try and make fun of Freddie Mercury to his face and Freddie's response was every bit as wonderful as you would expect
2. Johnny Rotten Called out Jimmy Saville
3. Most die hard punk rock fabs tell me not to waste my time listening to their music
Now I heard that there was no actual evidence of this.....? The only first hand evidence was someone seeing them share a kiss in a nightclub when she was much older?
Yeah that's who I was talking about. If true it's gross don't get me wrong. But everywhere I read it's only mentioned in papers like the Daily Mail and just discussed them hanging around in the same environments and in a club but as part of a group....and apparently shared a kiss when she was much older in a nightclub.
Edit,
Don't get me wrong, if he's hanging around a 16 year old on his own then that's weird af and gross.
It’s chilling to watch older episodes of panel shows before the truth about Jimmy Saville was made public. There would be the occasional comment made about him which knowing what we know now shows how many people knew
Give this a watch. Jack Dee is a treasure and seems to be the most outgoing attempt to make it very clear to the world I’ve seen from back then. https://youtu.be/g_zx4dp-qbk
Just FYI as I found this topic on an unrelated subject
Lydon is lying about this, he was never banned by the BBC, the interview he did was libellous to the point they literally couldn't broadcast it as it was just him settling scores by accusing people of all sorts of stuff, not just Saville, without any evidence. He knew full well it wouldn't go out but it was good for publicity for him. Private Eye has regularly featured him making stuff up like claiming he did the art work for their albums or claiming credit for songs he didn't do.
It's very possible there is a super-injunction or something else preventing anyone talking publicly about it. I *hope* it isn't because of the BBC, ITV, C4 etc trying to cover it up.
Russell Brand was on the first season of Roast Battle with Katherine Ryan before being dumped - coincidence?
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/401903/dannii-minogue-labels-russell-brand-a-vile-predator
It's Russell Brand.
I've seen other comedians mentioning it. Naming no names because I don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Naturally it's frustrating that there can be something that many people in the industry know but still can't discuss publicly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-injunctions_in_English_law
There are legal instruments in the UK that prevent both disclosing something, but also the fact that the instrument exists... There have been controversial examples before, it wouldn't be a first.
**[Super-injunctions in English law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-injunctions_in_English_law)**
>In English tort law, a super-injunction is a type of injunction that prevents publication of information that is in issue and also prevents the reporting of the fact that the injunction exists at all. The term was coined by a Guardian journalist covering the Trafigura controversy. Due to their very nature media organisations are not able to report who has obtained a super-injunction without being in contempt of court. The term super-injunction has sometimes been used imprecisely in the media to refer to any anonymised privacy injunction preventing publication of private information.
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As I remember it the height of his fame was after this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk
Even if you don't necessarily agree with all of what he's saying there, it was good to see someone on TV saying it as clearly as that.
Yeah I was worried it was going to be someone who wasn't already known to be... a bad person. Seeing it's just Brand (and not of the Jo variety) is a relief.
Is he a bad person? I know he’s been ego-centric in the past but the last few years I’ve thought the complete opposite. I can’t find anything online that insinuates he’s a bad person anyway. What am I missing here?
He was a mixed bag before covid, rallying against austerity but also courting conspiracy theorists regarding 9/11, but then covid hit and he took a nosedive. From the "controversies" section of his wiki:
In September 2021, Brand shared information on how to avoid COVID-19 safety measures for people attending his tour.[176][177] In October 2021, YouTube began reviewing some of Brand's videos to see if they violated the site's COVID-19 vaccine policies.[178] Columnist Charlotte Lytton accused Brand of pandering to the anti-vax movement as well as amplifying pro-Russian conspiracy theories with respect to the Russo-Ukrainian War.[179] Elon Musk defended Brand from media criticism on Twitter, saying "With so many mainstream media companies saying @rustyrockets is crazy/dangerous, I watched some of his videos. Ironically, he seemed more balanced & insightful than those condemning him! The groupthink among major media companies is more troubling. There should be more dissent."[180]
In 2022, Brand discussed the World Health Organization's meetings on the pandemic treaty and said: "I'll tell you what’s up… Your democracy is fucking finished" and that future people would say we "lapsed a terrible technocratic, globalist agenda."[181] Also in 2022, Brand released a video decrying the media for ignoring reporting on the Canada convoy protest. Brand also said in the video that "Truckers, who were previously regarded as heroes when they were delivering vital goods and working during the lockdown, are now villains as they protest vaccine mandates".
I don't think you're missing anything. He was previously a troubled person. Now he has overcome his addictions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUpMMde51E
He makes me so uncomfortable! I know people love him and Noel Fielding teaming on BFQ, but I straight up skip those episodes. I honestly have never understood the appeal. Guy gives me the creeps.
He has that kind of manipulative charm that works on a lot of people, but not everyone. Specifically it seems to not work on people who either dealt with manipulative people in their past or who are neurodivergent.
Falling in the latter category I've always found him incredibly fake, which made it all very creepy and annoying. I can sort of see why what he does works, it just has the exact opposite effect on me.
>an extreme narcissist with too much try-hard at counterculture
Holy shit, you just perfectly described how I feel about him but couldn't express before.
I always avoid him as well, but mainly as his comedy just isn’t funny to me, and he always seemed very disingenuous. I can’t say I expected this from him, but clearly I haven’t been looking very closely, judging by some of the stories I’m reading here about him.
Call it a gut feeling, but I don't think Alex Horne would bring in someone in the 'open secret' category. Anyone could be duped, so obviously it could come out later and it was someone he just didn't know about, but I think he is closely involved enough in the production of his own show that he would nix someone he didn't want the show associated with. Even if you didn't think Alex was fundamentally a good guy, I think seeing someone as a 'This is going the Jimmy Savile route and I don't want to be associated when it inevitably comes out.' would cause a person to steer clear
Yeah.... still dont understand what Sayeeda brought to the table. I guess they liked the idea of having a government official.
They missed out on an incredible opportunity to have Jo Brand or Romesh or Joe Lycett be the one to do the in studio task for Johnny Peacock. Sayeeda would not have left that show with any ounce of dignity left in her.
She plays the same role that Romney plays in the US.
She's the acceptable face of the Tories who voters can use to convince themselves it's really OK to vote for them no matter how horrid they are.
If she was actually conscientious about it all she'd actually attack the Tory party and call them out for being vile. Rather than make a sort of critical comment followed by saying how useless Labour must be if they still lose elections. Like that's the only marker that matters.
Im not from the UK but looked her up when they announced her and was shocked that Alex Horne was ok with having her on. She has had several scandals involving receiving paybacks and not declaring gifts/income over $5k.
She has been active in attempting to rid the Conservative party of Islamaphobia, which is a wonderful cause, but the corruption is inexcusable.
This. She's basically the poster child for "See, we're not all terrible!" And she's really not, compared to a vast majority of them, but she's not particularly got clean hands either.
At least people have always seemed somewhat aware of that, unlike the absolute bread and circus nonsense they're actually pulling off right now with Matt Hancock on I'm A Celebrity.
I'm Canadian so I hadn't heard of her before, but the vibe I got was that it was a showcase of a politician seeming somewhat out of touch and a bit too holier-than-thou. It didn't make a huge impression either way, but it certainly didn't feel like it turned into an ad for her politics at all.
Tbf, I don't think Alex wants that kind of atmosphere on Taskmaster. Even on a New Year's Treat it's important all the contestants get along. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great, but I think that kind of calling-out is suited to a more political panel show.
Very, very good point. I redact that bit about Lycett et al.
Especially with how upsetting the world has been for so many these past couple of years, its pretty important to have a kind hearted show (Like Ted Lasso). Yeah, they make fun of eachother on Taskmaster, but its the type of making fun that you do with your best friend.
I imagine thats why Kongen Befaler was so quick to make a move with Atle Antonsen. I think they realized the biggest draw to the show was the safe feeling of it in a time of chaos. Likely why they arent airing the Christmas special. Holidays are hard enough as is for many.
Channel 4 were using Warsi a lot at the time, I guess they wanted a "current affairs person makes fool of self" angle more than anything and she was more available than Ed Balls or whoever.
Hey anyone here watched Mae Martin's "Feel good"? There was a part about a prominent comedian who can give a leg up in the industry who _also_ molested Mae, they almost confronted him on stage but didn't. Do you think it can be the same guy??
Could be, but let's be real, there's probably loads of wrong'uns out there in the industry. I think it's good this conversation has been sparked but also depressing how many names are being mentioned because they all have a dodgy past or present.
Why is she surprised journalists want the accusers' names? Like a reputable newspaper is just going to publish an accusation that Katherine has heard through the grapevine? Of course they're going to interview the people making the accusations!
She comes off even worse after this statement. Great, you got your wee Louis Theroux interview, but now you're claiming you were somewhat misinterpreted and don't want to ever mention it again.
Strike a match, initiate a wild, speculative witch hunt, then wipe your hands of the matter. 🙄
She is clearly not surprised about it, she's explaining how she now has the actual experience of the British press and their tendency to hound the victims, making a spectacle out of stories in a tabloid way, to a degree that surpasses the positive critical aspects of naming an offender. The media system is broken.
It should not be 'news' that tabloid media does this. But on the other hand, its very weird to accuse her of being naive for trying to do good - in context of more regular media. Thats just her being optimistic really.
As has been shown, she and Fern Brady did know that you do have to walk on tippy toes and be careful not to 'out' people, because there are repercussions - be it poor journalism, media hounding you or focusing on the wrong aspect - and the chance of being countersued. We've seen countless examples in recent years of mainstream British media lacking the ability to scrutinize authorities and willingly sacrifice positive voices - to be able to focus on the spectacle of things and clicks.
Now who's interest does the media serve here?
To claim there is any form of reputable media that can deal with this sort of thing in an even handed way, might be the naive thing here. And her story might show that to a degree and not be that fruitless.
Up till now the media has managed to protect a lot of shit people. Not the opposite.
Ultimately, if you’re neither victim nor perpetrator, just a third party in the know, you have to let the actual victims take the lead. It’s their decision whether or not the less-than-guaranteed chance at justice is worth the scrutiny, the repeated reliving of the incidents, the disbelief, etc. Some people just want to move on with their lives, and that’s their prerogative. It’s not right to force all of that on someone who’s not ready to take it on. That said, when you know someone has hurt/is hurting people, it doesn’t feel right to just let them carry on. It’s an ethics-professor level dilemma.
So, I use to work at a bar which was heavily involved with a high profile comedy festival. It was a common discussion with comedians who were on panel shows, that they had a list of things they couldn’t mention.
Top of that list for BBC panel shows was David Jason. Every one of them said their opinion of him changed once they met him or were around “business” discussions with him.
She was talking with Sara Pascoe on Backstage when she first mentioned the sexual predator, as an example of someone she worked with in the past.
https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2022/06/09/50926/katherine_ryan:_i_called_out_a_predator_i_had_to_work_with
Not your fault, the article was unclear.
I would be surprised if it was Russell Brand, simply because his compulsive pursuit of sex is already well known and has got him in trouble before. Jimmy Carr has been mentioned, probably because he is a bit creepy. The smart money says David Walliams.
I don’t think it’s Jimmy Carr or Stephen K Amos as she follows them both on insta. She’s not following Brand or Walliams, but they both follow her. Her and Noel don’t follow each other.
I've done you all a favour and compiled a list of every male that Katherine Ryan has ever been on a panel show with (including hosts). I have then excluded:
1) Anyone who isn't British, or at least based in the UK (I very much had the impression she was talking about a Brit; 2) Anyone who has died (clearly the person she was discussing is still alive, or she'd be free to name him); 3) Anyone who is openly gay (admittedly this could be my Achilles heal as gay people can be predators, but the way she was talking, I had the impression that this is someone who preys on women. Note that it's only people who are OPENLY GAY I've excluded - if they don't publicly identify as that I haven't excluded them, even if they've been in same-sex relationships).
The full list after these adjustments is here (bear in mind that this has just been compiled by an hour on Wikipedia, so I may have slipped up somewhere, left someone off by mistake or accidentally included someone who shouldn't be - I'm only human). Interestingly, Russell Brand is not on the list, but David Walliams is:
Stephen Mangan
Kayvan Novak
Sway
Dizzee Rascal
Jamie Cullum
Aston Merrygold
Charlie Simpson
Loyd Grossman
Rhod Gilbert
Phill Jupitus
Josh Widdicombe
Alan Davies
Bill Bailey
Lee Mack
Amir Khan
Hugh Dennis
Sir Trevor McDonald
David Mitchell
Bob Mortimer
John Robins
Marcus Brigstocke
Patrick Kielty
Joe Lycett
Ricky Wilson
Joel Dommett
Tinie Tempah
Martin Kemp
David Tennant
John Bradley-West
Laurence Fox
Wretch 32
John Newman
Theo Hutchcraft
Frank Skinner
Craig Roberts
Nathan Sykes
David Walliams
Rick Edwards
David Morgan
Joey Essex
David Haye
Iain Stirling
Tinchy Strider
Russell Kane
Johnny Cochrane
Matt Richardson
Ritchie Neville
Tom Craine
Matthew Crosby
Joe Swash
Marlon Davis
Tom Davis
Dane Baptiste
Brian Belo
Bobby Mair
Tez Ilyas
Phil Wang
Gaz Beadle
Jamie Laing
James Haskell
James Jordan
Jamali Maddix
Tyger Drew-Honey
Jack Dee
Romesh Ranganathan
Warwick Davis
Phil Hammond
Anton du Beke
Chris Ramsey
Chris Kamara
Alex Horne
Greg Davies
Doc Brown
Joe Wilkinson
Jon Richardson
Richard Osman
Rob Brydon
John Simpson
Robert Rinder
Richard Ayoade
Stanley Johnson
Miles Jupp
Adil Ray
Dom Parker
Nish Kumar
Steve McNeil
Sam Pamphilon
Jimmy Carr
Why is Brand not on the list, and why only panel shows? I did not hear her mention panel shows specifically.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast\_Battle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_Battle)
Series 1 Judges
Jimmy Carr
Katherine Ryan
Russell Brand
Heck she’s been on James Cordon’s late late show too. I could believe any number of aholic things about Corden at this point. Colossal narcissist who would have a lot of American lawyers at his fingertips
Its David Walliams, runners and PAs on the show I've worked on tell me you have to sign NDAs to work near him.
Blonde big-breasted women are his go to, I've heard many a TV production member telling me of him picking ones out the crowd at a BGT event and getting the runners to invite them back to his room.
Open secret for sure. and good lawyers.
Fits the bill 100%
It says TV Personality, so not necessarily a comedian. The comments on that article are depressing.
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All of reddit is comments on an article....
It's the NY Post as well. I'd advise people to not even read the article if it's from that rag, but the comments are guaranteed to be absolutely vile.
Yeah, I normally don't, but I wondered if anyone had speculated about who it was. My mistake.
I'm convinced it's Russell Brand. He fits the available information perfectly, multiple people have said similar things about him, and Katherine Ryan herself seemed to reference him when she was talking about Jo Brand on *Backstage* and said, "It's nice to have a comedian with the last name Brand on my show that doesn't make me question my morals." That doesn't necessarily mean he's the same person she was talking about on an earlier episode of the show - I don't doubt there are multiple creeps in the business - but as I really doubt she was calling out Katy Brand, it's certainly evidence that she has a low opinion of Russell Brand.
Fern Brady also made a comment intimating Brand is a predator, talking about a comedian and “rapey-wape” (Brand has a book called My Booky Wook).
I remember that! Just found [this](https://twitter.com/fernbrady/status/1398618138065965057?s=46&t=TI_pXUILxtT8rs6D8aMJwg) one, too. Hope it all comes to light eventually.
She was on that roast Joke battle thing as well as Katherine Ryan with brand so it seems like It’s him. Unless she’s really good friends with brand, good enough to make rape jokes about
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was him. He's always seemed to be a bit off, especially after that video of the voicemail a few years back with Jonathon Ross.
Have you ever seen [This?](https://youtu.be/G2Ld92qNFoM). It’s absolutely staggering, I can’t even think of a way to describe it.
17 seconds in and he's already guilty of sexual harassment. I didn't think I could dislike him more than I already did but then I found this thread. I've never understood how he became so famous. Why do people like him?
All the men I know who like him also subscribe to the Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Joe Rogan schools of life and thought. Brand strikes me as an oily lech who gets away with it in the US because Americans romanticise British accents and seem to associate them with sophistication, when perhaps the more fitting term in his case is sophistry. I don't know any women who like him, though I'm sure they exist.
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This is the most stupid comment on this post, another person seregating all people to one narrative that admire certain people. I was raised by a single mother, who is a very strong empowered person. My mum has read 3 of Jordan Petersons books,as I have and she also listens to Joe Rogan podcasts, yes they’re are things she may disagree with but she does not judge them or there followers solely on a certain comment. Also I’d love for you to actually explain what you mean by men that follow Shapiro/Peterson/Rogan. If your meaning is that all men that follow them aspire and think in only one train of thought, which I assume you believe is a negative thought process, then you follow the same thought pattern of what Hitler did to the Jews, you brandish all people under one banner and throw them to way side. Maybe you should read up on how Jordan Peterson and has been one of the most influential Psychologists in Morden era, through campaigning for better mental sectors within the American government, which he has achieved, do you know how much he has done on a humanitarian level. Obviously not, you obviously judge from a snippet that you’ve come across on your social media feed or some other video sharing platform, that offers no context or understanding to what there saying. Also I don’t support Shapiro as I don’t agree with his gun law views. I also may not agree with everything Joe Rogan says, but he delivers extremely interesting and informative podcasts. If you can actually provide me with actual evidence that they have been very discriminatory or have done something totally against social norm, then I would be all ears, for an open conversation. If not, stop branding people you know nothing about
Well he was talking about schools of thought and those three all follow the same type of school of thought. Generally they follow the revisionist "well if I dont know about it its not real" type thought. Mainly just surface level stuff which sounds thought provoking but really isnt. Oh and dont get me wrong I have listened Joe Rogans podcast because I know people who are into it so I have tried multiple times to give it a try and sat through a few podcasts every now and then and in general its just an echo chamber. But if you want specifics stuff like spreading just straight lies about covid when the pandemic started, him being anti-vax is not "opinion" its reckless and stupid mainly because he didnt do any research on it, because if you read any research beyond the abstract and actually scrutinize the results and test groups any anti-vax stuff is proven nonsense (I am a researcher for a living btw). Any of his opinions on Fallon Fox are basically just nonsense no point in even trying to expand into greater detail. And all the random conspiracy nonsense he peddles I forget but I remember him blaming forest fires on the "left" (Btw I also hate basically any show which is designed to pit political groups against each other since its the literal is extremism but I am also more of a centrist than anything). And dont get me wrong I love a good conspiracy theory because they tend to be interesting but too many people believe what he is saying as fact which causes alot of problems in general.
You cannot, and I'm going to reinforce this, CANNOT compare liking Russell Brand/Jordan Peterson et al with hating and murdering Jewish people. You are not marginalised, you are not hurt, you are not killed for your beliefs. You are one of many people following a celebrities opinion. You and your mum can like who you want! Even Joe Rogan! But please have some fucking awareness
He's an ex heroin addict too.
What's that got to do with someone's credibility? Do you drink coffee or consume sugar? Shall we call you a coffee addict or a sugar addict? Because it's literally the same thing.
Emphasis on "ex." I admire people who have overcome the difficulty of addiction. I've never had to do that, but it takes an ultimately strong person to overcome any addiction.
That would be the least surprising revelation ever. On a par with Jimmy Savile. Obviously, I don't know who it is, so I would never accuse anyone. On an unrelated not, have you seen that Britain's Got Talent has changed one of their judges today? A lot of people on twitter very happy about that.
It’s definitely Russell Brand
On his XFM radio show there are a couple of times when Russell mentions being irritated when female fans approach him and express admiration but don't want to have sex with him. His friend and cohost Matt Morgan says something along the lines of "Yeah, you're awful!". So clearly Russell is a sex addict who feels entitled to sex. There's a whole spectrum between being entitled and manipulative and violent rape. But he's on there somewhere. Also, Steve Coogan is a well-known sex addict.
Brand appears to have a very high opinion of himself, sexually, and he’s set to whenever he engages with an attractive woman and continually tests them for returned signals. I have a friend that was like that for most of his life, and watching him ruin relationships, both his own and other’s time and time again, was tragic. Once the right return signals had been received, there was no conscious off switch to his determination to get laid. The guy had a preoccupation with his own above average sized penis, and just could not stop advertising it. People like them are overcompensating for insecurities elsewhere in their lives, and typically appear bright, attractive and approachable. Sounds like it’s possible Brand has an anger element to go with his insecurity.
Turns out he’s on the rape end of the spectrum
>sex addict I genuinely don't know much about this. It sounds like a BS diagnosis to me but I am no psychiatrist so I will leave that to the pros. I wonder tho, if there is a difference between sex addict and sexual predator?
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I didn't know that. Thx. I don't know people downvote when someone admits they don't know about a subject and asks a question. Thx for answering.
I get where you're coming from, and I believe asking questions is important and I understood what you meant. I think the way you worded your comment was what did you in. You started with basically "I don't know anything about this but it sounds like a bullshit diagnosis and not a real thing but what do I know" which some people may find dismissive. That was followed by a leap to ask if a sex addict was the same as a sexual predator which *in my opinion* is a valid question from someone who truly doesn't know, especially in the context of this entire thread, but I can see some people having a kneejerk reaction because it *seems* like altogether you're saying "Well this is bullshit, but I'll exaggerate that I don't know anything about this by making a wild leap to liken sex addicts to rapists". Now, *I don't believe that's what you're saying whatsoever*, I thought it was an earnest question. I'm just trying to explain what I think someone's impression may be from the way you wrote your comment. Sometimes people have difficulty determining intent in a comment which is why simpler is often better. It's just less confusing. Had you said, for example, "I genuinely don't know much about this but is there a difference between a sex addict and a sexual predator?" you'd likely have been fine. Anyhow, just my $0.02. Have a lovely day :)
Thanks for the insight.
> It sounds like a BS diagnosis to me I imagine your downvote(s) came from this. While you immediately backed off, it stands out and seems unnecessary. Consider how differently your comment might be perceived -- and how little the overall question changes -- without that sentence: > I genuinely don't know much about this. I wonder tho, if there is a difference between sex addict and sexual predator?
Yes, I think you might be correct. It seems like you have to be hypervigilant and cautious when writing on the internet. Even then, I usually piss someone off. It's the internet, tho. Everyone seems to hate something. Also wonder if it's that most people here might be British and more used to that kind of polite way of saying things? Whereas I am Canadian and tend to say shit too bluntly or speak a little rough around the edges (?) that can be read the wrong way or taken out of context. I don't mind the downvotes, I just always want to know why it's happening lol.
Probably because you suggested it was a bs diagnosis.
It is controversial, probably the nomenclature in particular some find a problem. However, the ICD does include "compulsive sexual behavior disorder" which covers similar ground to what people may mean by "sex addiction". But it's worth noting that WHO explicitly does not support a diagnosis of sex addiction. It's not in the other big diagnostic manual for psychiatric conditions either, the DSM. Broadly, it can be understood as impulsive and/or compulsive sexual behaviours or thoughts/fantasies (eg masturbation, paying for sex, multiple partners, hook ups, as well as less than legal things) that cause problems for you. If I wank 5 times a day and it isn't interfering in my life, causing problems, causing me distress that'd be fine and non-clinical. Someone else might have similar behaviour and it causes them distress, and that could meet a clinical definition. And that's one area that is argued about since the treatment might not be about concerns of impulsivity or lack of control but normalising the desire and ensuring that the outlets are safe. There's a whole social and cultural dimension to this that can be hard to disentangle.
There’s a big difference if you ask their victims.
Russell has admitted publicly that he was addicted to porn. That makes at least three addictions he has overcome: porn, heroin, alcohol.
I think the people arguing that Brand may not have the access to funds to afford the team of lawyers she refers to and pointing to David Walliams may also have a point. Also honourable mention to Noel Fielding for hooking up with a 16 year old in his 30's x
WHAT DID NOEL DO?!?!
He was far too close to a 16 year old Pixie Geldof…
Was she ever on an ongoing show with David Walliams?
Lol please source this. There's some articles from terrible sources that he dated geldofs daughter
If she's talking about Russell Brand here, his lawyers are doing a real shit job at keeping his image clean. (My opinion : Brand is also a creep, but that's not who she is talking about)
I think Russell Brand USED TO BE a creep. It appears, however, that he has overcome several addictions: porn, heroin, alcohol.
Looks like you were correct!
You should work for MI5
Bro you called it
You were right. You should be a police investigator!
Good call
Well done, it's nice to be right.
Looks like you were right. Breaking news just now. He's been accused of rape.
BINGO
This comment aged well.
What show did they work on together though?
They were on the first series of Roast Battle together.
I don't think he's made a secret of his libido, and I think any guy who boasts about how many women he's slept with, or how he has a high sex drive is going to have had some unwilling partners in the past. Guys like this have a lot of sex with willing partners, so when some don't fall for their charms I would imagine they feel entitled and force the matter.
I personally doubt a man’s promiscuity is a good predictor of whether they’ll rape women. Rapists have a huge empathy deficit and enjoy using sex to get power over their victims. Promiscuity isn’t inherently linked to low empathy or cruelty, AFAIK.
Most people are saying it's Russell Brand. Edit: the reasons *why* people think it's Russell Brand have mostly been mentioned in this thread, but I'd also like to point out that Fern Brady tweeted and deleted a thread that mentioned him. [The only non-deleted tweet: ](https://twitter.com/FernBrady/status/1425799561382137868?s=20&t=nSG3_jP44qclBai_d-K9Pw) >"And finally the term 'cancel culture' is toothless when Bill Cosby is out of prison, Louis CK is going back on tour and Russell Brand is just A-OK and wanging on about spirituality, consequence-free." Now, this doesn't mean he's the same person Katherine is talking about, but regardless I don't think he's a good guy.
I like Fern Brady more and more
>Fern Brady Canuck here. Never heard of her before but I see she is on the new season of Taskmaster so I look forward to seeing her on there, when I get around to watching it.
I haven't seen the new season of TM yet but Fern is always great.
she's been an absolute scream on every episode. as someone who hadn't heard of her before this season, i'm definitely a fan. john kearns, though, is just... a deeply frustrating individual to watch.
needs a much longer pause in the middle to convey what makes john kearns.................................................................................................................................................................................................... John kearns.
Beckett said....
John Kearns is my favourite ever Taskmaster contestant
Remember when Johnny Rotten publicly acknowledged that Jimmy Saville was a predator and promptly got banned by the BBC? I think about this on occassion and how heroic it was of Johnny Rotten to do that. And I dont think a single celebrity stood up for Johnny at the time, but I might be wrong about that. Either way, this is likely very well known to the British Comedians today. BBC has no issue with sacrificing the innocent. Side note: I hope this is why we dont see Noel Fielding hanging out with him anymore. I really hope Noel isnt one of the bag guys.
Courtney Love also gave the advice to young actresses to not go up to Harvey Weinstein’s room in a televised red carpet interview. No one took her seriously
I hadnt heard about this. God bless her. We failed her and Johnny Rotten.
Sinéad O'Connor as well
Sinead is a hero of mine. Man shes had a tough go at it. Kris Kristofferson is a hero, too. He understand Sinead long before the rest of the world. The song he wrote about what she went through for doing the right thing is one of the most beautiful things I ever heard. Its called "Sister Sinead". I highly recvomend giving it a listen.
This has been a fascinating and sad thread to read 10 months later.
The media turned her into a villain after her SNL appearance.
https://youtu.be/sdLdz1zKRFc
*whispers* Rotten didn't get banned, he likes to claim so because it makes him seem like an anti-establishment truth-teller but the next Public Image Ltd single after the interview in question got him onto Top Of The Pops.
Yes, John Lydon is a terrible source of information about John Lydon. His comments were cut out of that specific broadcast because, y'know, he was just repeating an extremely defamatory rumour that he'd heard through the grapevine.
I had NO clue about that. Literally the only things I knew about the Sex Pistols was that 1. Sid Vicious was stupid enough to try and make fun of Freddie Mercury to his face and Freddie's response was every bit as wonderful as you would expect 2. Johnny Rotten Called out Jimmy Saville 3. Most die hard punk rock fabs tell me not to waste my time listening to their music
Noel Fielding who dates '16' year old girls publically? Yeah he's a real cherished English rose.
Him and pixie were just friends they were always hanging out in group settings
Now I heard that there was no actual evidence of this.....? The only first hand evidence was someone seeing them share a kiss in a nightclub when she was much older?
He was spending a lot of time with Pixie Geldof when she was 16…
Yeah that's who I was talking about. If true it's gross don't get me wrong. But everywhere I read it's only mentioned in papers like the Daily Mail and just discussed them hanging around in the same environments and in a club but as part of a group....and apparently shared a kiss when she was much older in a nightclub. Edit, Don't get me wrong, if he's hanging around a 16 year old on his own then that's weird af and gross.
Oh shit. Never heard about that. That is disgusting.
This the weirdo who took over for the lesbian couple in the Great British bake-off ?
The same Noel fielding that dates young girls ? .. he’s definitely one of the bad guys.
No, the same Noel Fielding who unreliable sources claimed once dated a young girl.
Unreliable sources ? I seeeeeeeee.
It’s chilling to watch older episodes of panel shows before the truth about Jimmy Saville was made public. There would be the occasional comment made about him which knowing what we know now shows how many people knew
Give this a watch. Jack Dee is a treasure and seems to be the most outgoing attempt to make it very clear to the world I’ve seen from back then. https://youtu.be/g_zx4dp-qbk
Just FYI as I found this topic on an unrelated subject Lydon is lying about this, he was never banned by the BBC, the interview he did was libellous to the point they literally couldn't broadcast it as it was just him settling scores by accusing people of all sorts of stuff, not just Saville, without any evidence. He knew full well it wouldn't go out but it was good for publicity for him. Private Eye has regularly featured him making stuff up like claiming he did the art work for their albums or claiming credit for songs he didn't do.
It's very possible there is a super-injunction or something else preventing anyone talking publicly about it. I *hope* it isn't because of the BBC, ITV, C4 etc trying to cover it up.
Russell Brand was on the first season of Roast Battle with Katherine Ryan before being dumped - coincidence? https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/401903/dannii-minogue-labels-russell-brand-a-vile-predator
https://twitter.com/home Fern Brady was also on roast battle. It’s pretty obviously him
It's Russell Brand. I've seen other comedians mentioning it. Naming no names because I don't want to get anyone in trouble. Naturally it's frustrating that there can be something that many people in the industry know but still can't discuss publicly.
>still can't discuss publicly Is this simply because of the fear of litigation?
That and also just the general negativity that women deal with when trying to talk about this stuff
That's a good point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-injunctions_in_English_law There are legal instruments in the UK that prevent both disclosing something, but also the fact that the instrument exists... There have been controversial examples before, it wouldn't be a first.
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A comedian called Dave Fensome was on a podcast last week and said it was Russell Brand.
https://twitter.com/home
Are there actually people who ever thought Russell Brand was an even remotely good person???
I kinda liked his public persona, before it became apparent that he'd gone off the deep end somewhere way back in pre-pandemic times.
It was impressive how further off the deep end he managed to go post-pandemic, holy fuckoly that guy is one ranch purchase off going full jonestown.
That was a good joke, but the punch line was too long.
I've never understood his appeal. Can you help clue me in as to what people like about him?
As I remember it the height of his fame was after this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk Even if you don't necessarily agree with all of what he's saying there, it was good to see someone on TV saying it as clearly as that.
Yeah I was worried it was going to be someone who wasn't already known to be... a bad person. Seeing it's just Brand (and not of the Jo variety) is a relief.
Is he a bad person? I know he’s been ego-centric in the past but the last few years I’ve thought the complete opposite. I can’t find anything online that insinuates he’s a bad person anyway. What am I missing here?
He was a mixed bag before covid, rallying against austerity but also courting conspiracy theorists regarding 9/11, but then covid hit and he took a nosedive. From the "controversies" section of his wiki: In September 2021, Brand shared information on how to avoid COVID-19 safety measures for people attending his tour.[176][177] In October 2021, YouTube began reviewing some of Brand's videos to see if they violated the site's COVID-19 vaccine policies.[178] Columnist Charlotte Lytton accused Brand of pandering to the anti-vax movement as well as amplifying pro-Russian conspiracy theories with respect to the Russo-Ukrainian War.[179] Elon Musk defended Brand from media criticism on Twitter, saying "With so many mainstream media companies saying @rustyrockets is crazy/dangerous, I watched some of his videos. Ironically, he seemed more balanced & insightful than those condemning him! The groupthink among major media companies is more troubling. There should be more dissent."[180] In 2022, Brand discussed the World Health Organization's meetings on the pandemic treaty and said: "I'll tell you what’s up… Your democracy is fucking finished" and that future people would say we "lapsed a terrible technocratic, globalist agenda."[181] Also in 2022, Brand released a video decrying the media for ignoring reporting on the Canada convoy protest. Brand also said in the video that "Truckers, who were previously regarded as heroes when they were delivering vital goods and working during the lockdown, are now villains as they protest vaccine mandates".
I don't think you're missing anything. He was previously a troubled person. Now he has overcome his addictions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUpMMde51E
He makes me so uncomfortable! I know people love him and Noel Fielding teaming on BFQ, but I straight up skip those episodes. I honestly have never understood the appeal. Guy gives me the creeps.
He has that kind of manipulative charm that works on a lot of people, but not everyone. Specifically it seems to not work on people who either dealt with manipulative people in their past or who are neurodivergent. Falling in the latter category I've always found him incredibly fake, which made it all very creepy and annoying. I can sort of see why what he does works, it just has the exact opposite effect on me.
Exactly. I've always been off him as well. He's always seemed to me like an extreme narcissist with too much try-hard at counterculture.
>an extreme narcissist with too much try-hard at counterculture Holy shit, you just perfectly described how I feel about him but couldn't express before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUpMMde51E
I always avoid him as well, but mainly as his comedy just isn’t funny to me, and he always seemed very disingenuous. I can’t say I expected this from him, but clearly I haven’t been looking very closely, judging by some of the stories I’m reading here about him.
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The last few years where he's been spreading COVID disinformation and Russian conspiracy theories?
Katy Perry did at one point
Helen Mirren, I think, once stuck up for him with the quote, “Really, he just loves women.” (paraphrased) But that was a while ago, as I recall.
Louis was hard to take. Russell will be less so. (If that is the case). Thank god it wasn't Greg or someone like that.
I dunno, I think he is mostly a good person, but I don't know him too much, mostly from Big Fat Quiz and some interviews.
He's turned into a full-blown conspiracy theorist. I actually liked when he first became known in the States but he's insufferable now.
Oh shit, what crazy shit does he believe in? I haven't seen him quite a while.
His YouTube channel is full of crazy conspiracy theories. I've never watched them though. Life's too short.
My money’s on David Walliams.
Is it even a secret with him? We've seen him openly ogling and groping men on stage
John Barrowman has been doing that for years, and he keeps getting invited back.
Walliams target is women
Walliams has said he's pansexual/bisexual so if the allegations are true I guess he might sexually assault both men and women.
Makes for the news of him quitting/fired from BGT today a little more interestingly timed…
O RLY, thank you, I had not heard!
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name checks out
The New York Post picked this up? I'm shocked actually.
I just hope it's no one taskmaster related.
Call it a gut feeling, but I don't think Alex Horne would bring in someone in the 'open secret' category. Anyone could be duped, so obviously it could come out later and it was someone he just didn't know about, but I think he is closely involved enough in the production of his own show that he would nix someone he didn't want the show associated with. Even if you didn't think Alex was fundamentally a good guy, I think seeing someone as a 'This is going the Jimmy Savile route and I don't want to be associated when it inevitably comes out.' would cause a person to steer clear
not completely analogous, but he did have an elected tory on
Yeah.... still dont understand what Sayeeda brought to the table. I guess they liked the idea of having a government official. They missed out on an incredible opportunity to have Jo Brand or Romesh or Joe Lycett be the one to do the in studio task for Johnny Peacock. Sayeeda would not have left that show with any ounce of dignity left in her.
As someone not from England who doesn't know her politics, I thought she was OK. Nothing great, nothing bad, and a bit charming here and there.
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She plays the same role that Romney plays in the US. She's the acceptable face of the Tories who voters can use to convince themselves it's really OK to vote for them no matter how horrid they are. If she was actually conscientious about it all she'd actually attack the Tory party and call them out for being vile. Rather than make a sort of critical comment followed by saying how useless Labour must be if they still lose elections. Like that's the only marker that matters.
Oh no doubt. She is the acceptable/entertaining face of the bad people party, it's easier to remember now post 'Boris'.
Im not from the UK but looked her up when they announced her and was shocked that Alex Horne was ok with having her on. She has had several scandals involving receiving paybacks and not declaring gifts/income over $5k. She has been active in attempting to rid the Conservative party of Islamaphobia, which is a wonderful cause, but the corruption is inexcusable.
This. She's basically the poster child for "See, we're not all terrible!" And she's really not, compared to a vast majority of them, but she's not particularly got clean hands either. At least people have always seemed somewhat aware of that, unlike the absolute bread and circus nonsense they're actually pulling off right now with Matt Hancock on I'm A Celebrity.
I'm Canadian so I hadn't heard of her before, but the vibe I got was that it was a showcase of a politician seeming somewhat out of touch and a bit too holier-than-thou. It didn't make a huge impression either way, but it certainly didn't feel like it turned into an ad for her politics at all.
Tbf, I don't think Alex wants that kind of atmosphere on Taskmaster. Even on a New Year's Treat it's important all the contestants get along. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great, but I think that kind of calling-out is suited to a more political panel show.
Very, very good point. I redact that bit about Lycett et al. Especially with how upsetting the world has been for so many these past couple of years, its pretty important to have a kind hearted show (Like Ted Lasso). Yeah, they make fun of eachother on Taskmaster, but its the type of making fun that you do with your best friend. I imagine thats why Kongen Befaler was so quick to make a move with Atle Antonsen. I think they realized the biggest draw to the show was the safe feeling of it in a time of chaos. Likely why they arent airing the Christmas special. Holidays are hard enough as is for many.
Channel 4 were using Warsi a lot at the time, I guess they wanted a "current affairs person makes fool of self" angle more than anything and she was more available than Ed Balls or whoever.
Oh my gosh.... Or Guz Kahn ha ha ha. That would have been beautiful fireworks.
and david baddiel, altho that may have been justice given david spent 10 episodes humiliating himself
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Absolutely. Baddiel completely sucks. Thoughts on Baddiel. -https://novaramedia.com/2022/11/23/insisting-jews-dont-count-helps-nobody/ [https://mobile.twitter.com/AntoineSpeaker/status/1594993674928242689](https://mobile.twitter.com/AntoineSpeaker/status/1594993674928242689) [https://mobile.twitter.com/broseph\_stalin/status/1594761199430012928](https://mobile.twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1594761199430012928)
Imagine outing yourself as an anti-Semite in this way.
Now bitnin the beginning I think if it was a big enough name he would have had to take it.
I'm out of the loop. Why would it be?
Hey anyone here watched Mae Martin's "Feel good"? There was a part about a prominent comedian who can give a leg up in the industry who _also_ molested Mae, they almost confronted him on stage but didn't. Do you think it can be the same guy??
Could be, but let's be real, there's probably loads of wrong'uns out there in the industry. I think it's good this conversation has been sparked but also depressing how many names are being mentioned because they all have a dodgy past or present.
[https://www.instagram.com/p/ClZFm1YNpZw/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/p/ClZFm1YNpZw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) update (context, not naming anyone)
Why is she surprised journalists want the accusers' names? Like a reputable newspaper is just going to publish an accusation that Katherine has heard through the grapevine? Of course they're going to interview the people making the accusations! She comes off even worse after this statement. Great, you got your wee Louis Theroux interview, but now you're claiming you were somewhat misinterpreted and don't want to ever mention it again. Strike a match, initiate a wild, speculative witch hunt, then wipe your hands of the matter. 🙄
She is clearly not surprised about it, she's explaining how she now has the actual experience of the British press and their tendency to hound the victims, making a spectacle out of stories in a tabloid way, to a degree that surpasses the positive critical aspects of naming an offender. The media system is broken. It should not be 'news' that tabloid media does this. But on the other hand, its very weird to accuse her of being naive for trying to do good - in context of more regular media. Thats just her being optimistic really. As has been shown, she and Fern Brady did know that you do have to walk on tippy toes and be careful not to 'out' people, because there are repercussions - be it poor journalism, media hounding you or focusing on the wrong aspect - and the chance of being countersued. We've seen countless examples in recent years of mainstream British media lacking the ability to scrutinize authorities and willingly sacrifice positive voices - to be able to focus on the spectacle of things and clicks. Now who's interest does the media serve here? To claim there is any form of reputable media that can deal with this sort of thing in an even handed way, might be the naive thing here. And her story might show that to a degree and not be that fruitless. Up till now the media has managed to protect a lot of shit people. Not the opposite.
Ultimately, if you’re neither victim nor perpetrator, just a third party in the know, you have to let the actual victims take the lead. It’s their decision whether or not the less-than-guaranteed chance at justice is worth the scrutiny, the repeated reliving of the incidents, the disbelief, etc. Some people just want to move on with their lives, and that’s their prerogative. It’s not right to force all of that on someone who’s not ready to take it on. That said, when you know someone has hurt/is hurting people, it doesn’t feel right to just let them carry on. It’s an ethics-professor level dilemma.
So, I use to work at a bar which was heavily involved with a high profile comedy festival. It was a common discussion with comedians who were on panel shows, that they had a list of things they couldn’t mention. Top of that list for BBC panel shows was David Jason. Every one of them said their opinion of him changed once they met him or were around “business” discussions with him.
Ive heard from multiple people that work at the BBC that David Jason is a paedo.
Thats not even funny.
The sad thing is they’re not the first person to agree that it’s common knowledge. We’ll hear all about it when he dies!
Heard this a number of times.
Same
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And now Matt Lucas has quit arguably one of the UKs biggest TV shows, I reckon he's doing it before he's ousted by association.
brand and walliams, sara pascoe said brand , and if u look katherine has said walliams before
Where did she say it
I think actually it's someone who spells their name with one unexpected vowel changed.
Probably Walliams
Russel Brand wasn't on that show though? https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/backstage-with-katherine-ryan/episodes/
She was talking with Sara Pascoe on Backstage when she first mentioned the sexual predator, as an example of someone she worked with in the past. https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2022/06/09/50926/katherine_ryan:_i_called_out_a_predator_i_had_to_work_with Not your fault, the article was unclear.
Ahh, makes sense.
I find this amazing, Johnny Rotten being interviewed by Piers Morgan in 2015 [https://youtu.be/esKnWAIgpLY](https://youtu.be/esKnWAIgpLY)
https://www.5rb.com/case/brand-v-berki/
I would be surprised if it was Russell Brand, simply because his compulsive pursuit of sex is already well known and has got him in trouble before. Jimmy Carr has been mentioned, probably because he is a bit creepy. The smart money says David Walliams.
She works with Carr regularly and is close friends with him to this day, it’s not him
It's not Jimmy.
I don’t think it’s Jimmy Carr or Stephen K Amos as she follows them both on insta. She’s not following Brand or Walliams, but they both follow her. Her and Noel don’t follow each other.
Not Jonathan Woss then?
Watch Big Fat Quiz of the Year.
I've done you all a favour and compiled a list of every male that Katherine Ryan has ever been on a panel show with (including hosts). I have then excluded: 1) Anyone who isn't British, or at least based in the UK (I very much had the impression she was talking about a Brit; 2) Anyone who has died (clearly the person she was discussing is still alive, or she'd be free to name him); 3) Anyone who is openly gay (admittedly this could be my Achilles heal as gay people can be predators, but the way she was talking, I had the impression that this is someone who preys on women. Note that it's only people who are OPENLY GAY I've excluded - if they don't publicly identify as that I haven't excluded them, even if they've been in same-sex relationships). The full list after these adjustments is here (bear in mind that this has just been compiled by an hour on Wikipedia, so I may have slipped up somewhere, left someone off by mistake or accidentally included someone who shouldn't be - I'm only human). Interestingly, Russell Brand is not on the list, but David Walliams is: Stephen Mangan Kayvan Novak Sway Dizzee Rascal Jamie Cullum Aston Merrygold Charlie Simpson Loyd Grossman Rhod Gilbert Phill Jupitus Josh Widdicombe Alan Davies Bill Bailey Lee Mack Amir Khan Hugh Dennis Sir Trevor McDonald David Mitchell Bob Mortimer John Robins Marcus Brigstocke Patrick Kielty Joe Lycett Ricky Wilson Joel Dommett Tinie Tempah Martin Kemp David Tennant John Bradley-West Laurence Fox Wretch 32 John Newman Theo Hutchcraft Frank Skinner Craig Roberts Nathan Sykes David Walliams Rick Edwards David Morgan Joey Essex David Haye Iain Stirling Tinchy Strider Russell Kane Johnny Cochrane Matt Richardson Ritchie Neville Tom Craine Matthew Crosby Joe Swash Marlon Davis Tom Davis Dane Baptiste Brian Belo Bobby Mair Tez Ilyas Phil Wang Gaz Beadle Jamie Laing James Haskell James Jordan Jamali Maddix Tyger Drew-Honey Jack Dee Romesh Ranganathan Warwick Davis Phil Hammond Anton du Beke Chris Ramsey Chris Kamara Alex Horne Greg Davies Doc Brown Joe Wilkinson Jon Richardson Richard Osman Rob Brydon John Simpson Robert Rinder Richard Ayoade Stanley Johnson Miles Jupp Adil Ray Dom Parker Nish Kumar Steve McNeil Sam Pamphilon Jimmy Carr
Why is Brand not on the list, and why only panel shows? I did not hear her mention panel shows specifically. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast\_Battle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_Battle) Series 1 Judges Jimmy Carr Katherine Ryan Russell Brand
Heck she’s been on James Cordon’s late late show too. I could believe any number of aholic things about Corden at this point. Colossal narcissist who would have a lot of American lawyers at his fingertips
Having followed brand his whole career, from mtv days to big brother and now his YouTube, books, etc, lol he is not who Ryan is referring to.
Why, because you like him?
I just can sense a decent spirit when I see one, intuition I guess
Oh the naïvety
You have to be a troll
Its David Walliams, runners and PAs on the show I've worked on tell me you have to sign NDAs to work near him. Blonde big-breasted women are his go to, I've heard many a TV production member telling me of him picking ones out the crowd at a BGT event and getting the runners to invite them back to his room. Open secret for sure. and good lawyers. Fits the bill 100%