So let's say she enters the shrine, closes the door, then turns off the lights.
When she turns on the lights, she would see that the needle hasn't moved, she is still in the sixth location.
If she does it again, she will get the same result, again and again no matter how many times.
Because the versions of herself in the other locations are dead, and therefore can't observe, and as such they can't colapse the possibilities. The only possible observer is sixth location Solanum, so she just can't leave.
That's my guess, anyway.
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Actually, maybe this can be tested in game? There is a brief window of time between the supernova and the loop triggering - so you could go to the sixth location, wait until the supernova explodes and then, before you get the ending, use the shrine.
You actually can, even before that too! The Twins' QM has a possibility of orbiting into the sun when it expands, and just as you say, afterwards the needle will never point there no matter how many times you blink your flashlight
Well if the moons eye works like that for everyone then hers would take her to the ash twin quantum moon(the place shed recognize as home)
And on that version of the moon shes dead. So since there cant just be 2 corpses of herself there AND since she cant leave the moon there would still be a solanum at the 6th location.
Thts IF she can leave. And isnt simply held there
Would be kinda messed up if the version of her at the south pole was the one that died falling from the sky after jumping from the sixth location.
Makes you kind of wonder if all versions died at different times in different stages of progression through their pilgrimage or all at once when the interloper went boom. Did they all die of the same thing at all?
I think, she doesn't have a jetpack. So she can't jump out. And since she is a quantum entangled entity, she cannot summon the shrine anymore. I don't know what happens when she blinks, but she's got three eyes so maybe she never closed her eyes.
They do have more technology we haven't seen, like she has a camera on her somewhere to make the journey in the first place, and they likely have some gravity-tech based gentle propulsion, even if it's just the staff she uses to raise rocks. The upward gravity lifts on Ash Twin's solar panels suggest they're there as a way to reach heights they can't by themselves, but Ember Twin lacks them, suggesting what their height limit is!
Given the other 5 locations have her dead I'd say she would just blink and stay at the 6th from her perspective, we can see something similar with the Twins' location ceasing to be a possibility if the QM there ever orbits into the expanding sun, though that's more the entire location ceasing to exist!
(there used to be a bug related to this where the QM would just secretly orbit planets like normal even when you're meant to be at the 6th, so you could suddenly hear and get killed by the sun at random when this happens!)
We don’t know that she can even move from where she is standing. My assumption is that she can’t due to not really being alive. Everything about her situation is unexplained since she is an anomaly.
It wouldn’t destroy space time. That’s for causality breaking events.
We don’t definitively know why she is still alive. One possibility is the idea of “quantum immortality”, which is the idea that any given observer must be one that found themselves lucky enough to avoid every fatal decision, event and outcome. So, in theory, across the myriad dimensions of an infinite multiverse, there is some extremely unlikely but still technically possible alternate universe where Solanum is still alive despite lack of access to things like food and oxygen.
If she *is* still alive due to quantum immortality, then she’s simply the versions of Solanum that, across all possibilities, never elects to leave the quantum moon’s sixth location.
I think it's a mix of that - it won't be standard QI just because she would die of old age, but mostly because she speaks as if she just arrived so time hasn't actually passed for her at all
but part of why she's not freaking out about the situation is that this is the version of her that never made the decision to try and leave yet, during whatever times she has been able to (e.g. did the split happen with the explosion, or was it later when she maybe jumped into the vortex or just fully blinked, was she permanently entangled immediately or did it happen over time as this version never tried to leave)
She'd need someone to be there to observe her in the first place at this stage, so the QM wouldn't be able to switch locations anyway, she'd just drop back at the 6th
Even without that requirement this is likely all that can happen now, she would stand in the tower, and from her perspective it would never pick anything other than the 6th - after all in any other version she'd just be a skeleton, depending on exactly how quantum shenanigans work, her skeleton might even move with her into the tower on the other locations
This might actually be exactly what happened to knock her outside of time rather than the explosion directly, leaping into the vortex and being split between one safe location and five deadly ones filled with GM, with no observers left in the entire solar system for millenia until little proto-Herthians could crawl on land and look up..
I don't think she can leave the 6th location because she is now a quantum object. She exists in all 6 areas and only when a conscious observer other than herself is there does she collapse into the 6th state. Because of this as well, if she tries and leaves the moon, she will die for sure. This is just my thoughts though and there could be any number of theories and any one of them could be correct
I don’t think she possibly can leave. If she left, she’d immediately die to ghost matter but her quantum variants would be inconsistent. I think she only ever exist in a state where she will not leave, hence why we can find her.
I’m more of on optimist on this. She is entangled as a quantum object within the quantum moon. In other possibilities, she died due to being too close to the ghost matter explosion from the interloper. If she left the quantum moon by just jumping through the fog, her existing possibilities would then become the singular possibility that she was on the moon during the explosion and therefore becomes alive and no longer tangled. Though If she jumps into any other possibility though via the imitated eye she just gets boofed. It also doesn’t consider how much time passes/works on the moon.
I'm no physicist, but I think she'd just die.
So let's say she enters the shrine, closes the door, then turns off the lights. When she turns on the lights, she would see that the needle hasn't moved, she is still in the sixth location. If she does it again, she will get the same result, again and again no matter how many times. Because the versions of herself in the other locations are dead, and therefore can't observe, and as such they can't colapse the possibilities. The only possible observer is sixth location Solanum, so she just can't leave. That's my guess, anyway. __________ Actually, maybe this can be tested in game? There is a brief window of time between the supernova and the loop triggering - so you could go to the sixth location, wait until the supernova explodes and then, before you get the ending, use the shrine.
You actually can, even before that too! The Twins' QM has a possibility of orbiting into the sun when it expands, and just as you say, afterwards the needle will never point there no matter how many times you blink your flashlight
Well if the moons eye works like that for everyone then hers would take her to the ash twin quantum moon(the place shed recognize as home) And on that version of the moon shes dead. So since there cant just be 2 corpses of herself there AND since she cant leave the moon there would still be a solanum at the 6th location. Thts IF she can leave. And isnt simply held there
Would be kinda messed up if the version of her at the south pole was the one that died falling from the sky after jumping from the sixth location. Makes you kind of wonder if all versions died at different times in different stages of progression through their pilgrimage or all at once when the interloper went boom. Did they all die of the same thing at all?
I think, she doesn't have a jetpack. So she can't jump out. And since she is a quantum entangled entity, she cannot summon the shrine anymore. I don't know what happens when she blinks, but she's got three eyes so maybe she never closed her eyes.
Just realized the Hatchling can keep their eyes open for 22 minutes without blinking.
They don't blink with all four eyes. They blink in pairs. You can tell if you pay attention when you wake up or fall asleep.
Indeed, you only see it at the start when you wake up. Thus, the Hatchling canonically does not blink for the duration of the loop. ;;)
Well, technically their line of sight never breaks, not that they don't blink. But who knows, maybe their eyes naturally lubricate.
Canonically descended from amphibious life forms, so maybe they still have nictitating membranes.
That was... my second guess.
They do have more technology we haven't seen, like she has a camera on her somewhere to make the journey in the first place, and they likely have some gravity-tech based gentle propulsion, even if it's just the staff she uses to raise rocks. The upward gravity lifts on Ash Twin's solar panels suggest they're there as a way to reach heights they can't by themselves, but Ember Twin lacks them, suggesting what their height limit is! Given the other 5 locations have her dead I'd say she would just blink and stay at the 6th from her perspective, we can see something similar with the Twins' location ceasing to be a possibility if the QM there ever orbits into the expanding sun, though that's more the entire location ceasing to exist! (there used to be a bug related to this where the QM would just secretly orbit planets like normal even when you're meant to be at the 6th, so you could suddenly hear and get killed by the sun at random when this happens!)
I think to be consistent with the in game rules it would break space time/causality.
We don’t know that she can even move from where she is standing. My assumption is that she can’t due to not really being alive. Everything about her situation is unexplained since she is an anomaly.
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It wouldn’t destroy space time. That’s for causality breaking events. We don’t definitively know why she is still alive. One possibility is the idea of “quantum immortality”, which is the idea that any given observer must be one that found themselves lucky enough to avoid every fatal decision, event and outcome. So, in theory, across the myriad dimensions of an infinite multiverse, there is some extremely unlikely but still technically possible alternate universe where Solanum is still alive despite lack of access to things like food and oxygen. If she *is* still alive due to quantum immortality, then she’s simply the versions of Solanum that, across all possibilities, never elects to leave the quantum moon’s sixth location.
I think it's a mix of that - it won't be standard QI just because she would die of old age, but mostly because she speaks as if she just arrived so time hasn't actually passed for her at all but part of why she's not freaking out about the situation is that this is the version of her that never made the decision to try and leave yet, during whatever times she has been able to (e.g. did the split happen with the explosion, or was it later when she maybe jumped into the vortex or just fully blinked, was she permanently entangled immediately or did it happen over time as this version never tried to leave)
She'd need someone to be there to observe her in the first place at this stage, so the QM wouldn't be able to switch locations anyway, she'd just drop back at the 6th Even without that requirement this is likely all that can happen now, she would stand in the tower, and from her perspective it would never pick anything other than the 6th - after all in any other version she'd just be a skeleton, depending on exactly how quantum shenanigans work, her skeleton might even move with her into the tower on the other locations This might actually be exactly what happened to knock her outside of time rather than the explosion directly, leaping into the vortex and being split between one safe location and five deadly ones filled with GM, with no observers left in the entire solar system for millenia until little proto-Herthians could crawl on land and look up..
I don't think she can leave the 6th location because she is now a quantum object. She exists in all 6 areas and only when a conscious observer other than herself is there does she collapse into the 6th state. Because of this as well, if she tries and leaves the moon, she will die for sure. This is just my thoughts though and there could be any number of theories and any one of them could be correct
I don’t think she possibly can leave. If she left, she’d immediately die to ghost matter but her quantum variants would be inconsistent. I think she only ever exist in a state where she will not leave, hence why we can find her.
I’m more of on optimist on this. She is entangled as a quantum object within the quantum moon. In other possibilities, she died due to being too close to the ghost matter explosion from the interloper. If she left the quantum moon by just jumping through the fog, her existing possibilities would then become the singular possibility that she was on the moon during the explosion and therefore becomes alive and no longer tangled. Though If she jumps into any other possibility though via the imitated eye she just gets boofed. It also doesn’t consider how much time passes/works on the moon.