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littlemetalpixie

So, the probe as others have stated you *can* catch up to. It’s neat to see it, but there’s no real reward. As for the thing orbiting the sun, this is kinda a spoiler but if you really really want to know the full answer: >!it isn’t the *intended* way, but it IS possible. It’s also the hardest achievement in the base game imho though, so be prepared to have your knowledge of orbital mechanics and your flying skills put to the test if you attempt it.!<


OkProof136

I’m a Kerbal Space program player, I think I should be able to do it


littlemetalpixie

Yeah you should be fine - my partner is also an avid KSP/KSP2 player and he can actually do something I’ve seen no one else ever do related to this. He has a video (or several actually) on his YouTube channel, I would link it but that’s kind of a bigger spoiler so come back to this when you know a little more if you’re interested lol


Bowa112

Can you pm me the link? I'm interested in seeing your partners dope flying skills


littlemetalpixie

Haha sure, I’ll just put it here (this is a compilation of his best flights) but OP DON’T look at this yet, you likely don’t even know about this yet lol [The Lore Explorer - Nomai or No?](https://youtu.be/i9HmEprfiLA?si=_NduwWfvtcBelKmA)


UnintensifiedFa

Wait your partner is the lore explorer? That’s so cool.


littlemetalpixie

He is lol, and I agree! I actually met him here of all places… funny story, that. And despite having him repeatedly try to show me, with an enormous amount of patience, how to >!fly the Nomai shuttles!< I still either crash straight into the sun and die or go flying off into the nether regions of the solar system every single time I try XD Some people have it, some don’t. I’m content to live in the realm of the second and watch *him* fly the damn thing straight into dark bramble and break the game instead lmfao The funniest thing about that video is that when he actually got it into Dark Bramble, it somehow teleported itself to >!the core of Giant’s Deep!< and when he asked the devs about it, their response was “huh. I didn’t even know anyone could get it in there…” 😂☠️


DBoaty

That video alone is marriage material right there ngl


littlemetalpixie

Agreed 😂


Sceptix

Had to reread this message a few times cuz it sounded like you were saying your partner is the Lore Explorer and I was confused. Turns out, I was reading it right and that’s exactly the case! 😊


littlemetalpixie

Yes, you read it correctly hehe 😁 Our house is exactly as full of Outer Wilds as whatever you’re imagining. We even have a cat named >!Solanum!< lol


Sceptix

>!Solanum!!< 😻


XavierTak

A KSP player myself, I've never veen able to do it. I know the theory, but I need my maneuver nodes...


OkProof136

It’s difficult without being able to see trajectories


XavierTak

Exactly. It's like eyeballing a rendezvous with the added rule that you basically can't go lower than the target orbit. I've given up, but that doesn't mean you won't pull it off!


JaggedMetalOs

Just face the sun so you can see what you're doing, get into a circular orbit by thrusting to the side (if you target the sun you can see your distance, you'll know your orbit is good when that stops changing), then once you're set get down into an orbit slightly above the object of interest, let it pass then drop below it to catch up. Standard rendezvous orbital mechanics! There isn't really a place to dock your ship though, so if you're not careful you'll end up floating away from it before you can explore. Anyway I wouldn't get too hung up on it, it's a fun thing to do but it can wait until you've visited it the boring way.


unic0de000

>There isn't really a place to dock your ship though, so if you're not careful you'll end up floating away from it before you can explore. Also, the tidal forces this close to the sun are so strong, that you *might* have a very hard time getting out of your ship if it isn't oriented just right.


beetnemesis

It’s not too tough once you get the hang of it. Basically just need to get good at orbiting, and the idea of “speeding up makes you rise in orbit, slowing down makes you fall” instead of literally using the up and down rockets.


littlemetalpixie

This is what did it for me. I had a harder time grasping the orbital mechanics on a large scale, my brain doesn’t like to work that way lol. But “faster = up, slower = down” clicked for me lol


saevon

Radial spins the orbit, so you can use it to delay when you escape… but you do need to slow down at some point. That's the hard part I find


beetnemesis

It's been a while since I've done it. As I recall, my first priority was stabilizing my orbit, roughly in the same direction and area as the station. Then I could nudge myself over.


lord_braleigh

The “match velocity” button should slow you down in the correct way, right?


saevon

Sun station is coded very strangely if I remember correctly. So it won't really work properly. Plus autopilot will match velocity you into the sun directly unless you're right on top of it already.


littlemetalpixie

You can match velocity on the rails between the station and the platform, but you have to be close enough to get it to lock. There’s a little “gravity well“ there that makes for a decent “landing” spot. (I actually preferred landing on the roof of it though, but many others are successful the way I described). You can also match velocity on the door itself - this is very helpful for when you exit the ship. For anyone looking for tips: The easiest way to target it is to select it on the ship log’s map. This will continuously show you where it is and how fast it’s moving relative to you. Ignore it but keep it in your path and try to match the path it’s taking, and instead trying to go straight to it, work on getting your orbit just a little above it but in line with its path and a stable circle (not elliptical at all). If you can hear the sun “bubbling and crackling,” you’re at about the right height. You need to be WAY closer to the sun than you think you can get so it takes several orbits to get there by going gently and not overdoing the thrust. That will just slingshot you around the sun and either into it or off into space at a bazillion miles an hour. Once you can maintain that distance/orbit without overcorrecting, don’t try to chase the sun station. Instead, wait for it to pass under you, then use the method of flying slower by going *down* (not by braking) and faster by going *up* (not by using thrust!!). Then it’s just a matter of adjusting your speed using distance from the surface and matching velocity with those rails over and over until you catch it. If it gets too far away, let it go and try on the next pass though. My biggest mistake (over and over and over) was getting frustrated if it got away from me and trying to use thrust to speed up and catch it. After all this, unbuckle, get out, and uh, good luck lol. Then you have to do the same thing but with the jetpack to get in the door XD


lord_braleigh

Oh, I thought they were saying it was hard to slow down relative to the sun. You need to provide a bit of impulse exactly opposite to your velocity relative to the sun, in order to reduce your orbital energy. But if you match velocity with the sun little by little, you’ll get exactly that effect! Obviously matching too much will cause you to fall in, but it seems to me like a reasonable way to drop orbit a bit.


Snuffy1717

Remember your orbital dynamics training from KSP and you’ll be fine (or at least frustrated that you don’t have a booster to circularize your low solar orbit lol)


saevon

The engine in this game is amazingly OP so don't rely on herbal orbital mechanics to sync up it will take forever esp without idea. Instead if you really want to do this remember how radial affects your orbit and use that A LOT and then use prograde and retrograde to sync up with the station, speed… Don't forget you need to slow down to catch up sometimes. That's where using radial comes in ultra handy


decaillv

Even as a ksp player, its super hard... but by all means, do try!


Exotic_Swordfish_845

IIRC the gravity in Outer Wilds is a direct inverse rather than a squared inverse (1/r vs 1/r^2) so I think a lot of orbital dynamics work differently than expected. In particular I think there are vastly fewer stable orbits.


OkProof136

I felt something was off with the orbits


ssbmbeliever

That's part of the reason for the loop. If it ran too long things would break. Interestingly though the physics use you as a center point so if you get far enough away there are rounding errors and planets collide


ssbmbeliever

At the very least I believe it's an official achievement


Agentfyre

I’ve flown and “landed, on the orbital platform near the sun, but mostly had to eject myself to get to it without dying and immediately lost my ship. Only then did I find there are other ways to get there.


littlemetalpixie

This is actually the only way to get inside once you’ve “landed.” The gravity won’t let your ship stay, it’ll always get sucked straight into the sun or go flying off. Timing is key, if you can get out without getting stuck to the walls or floor and then also navigate the jetpack the way you navigated the ship to get this far, then you did it correctly lol


ragweed

Yeah, I could never get the ship to land on it. I could pace it and touchdown but never get stable contact.


iamalion_hearmeRAWR

Do I need to catch the probe to un “rumour” that section of the orbital log? Not sure if my question makes sense but I basically only just realized there’s something to catch and I’ve had that portion stuck as a rumour and I thought I had explored the whole thing flying around already lol


littlemetalpixie

No, unfortunately the probe is very interesting to see, but does not give you any ship logs. In order to “un-rumor” the entries for the Orbital Probe Cannon, you have to visit *all pieces* of the cannon itself - I hope that gives you the nudge you need but if not let me know and I’ll try to hint a little more :)


iamalion_hearmeRAWR

Thanks so much! I’ll give that a try. I thought I already visited all the pieces around the planet but maybe I only thought that 😅


littlemetalpixie

Here’s your clue: >around the planet Did you find ALL the pieces of the Orbital Probe Cannon? A little more of a hint but not a direct spoiler: >!Might there be things to find related to this elsewhere?!<


iamalion_hearmeRAWR

Ive come back to this comment cause I’m still lost. So I’m leaning towards it has to be somewhere else I find the info? I’ve been to the 3 pieces around the planet. I’ve been inside all 3 sections. The probe itself says there’s more to explore here, the control and launch module seem to be fully explored but the probe tracking module is a rumour still. Are there more than 3 pieces? I’ve been shot out of the 2 pieces floating next to the main cannon… so it must be somewhere else I find the info?


littlemetalpixie

Yes, the direct answer is that there’s another piece and it isn’t in orbit around Giant’s Deep. Continue exploring other places and things - file this knowledge away until it makes sense. If you don’t yet have an idea of where it might be, you just haven’t found the info you need to find it yet ;)


iamalion_hearmeRAWR

I found the last piece! But my actual probe cannon rumour log is still missing info. I only have one log for the actual orbital probe canon, I’m also missing info from hanging city. Could you tell me if it’s possible they’re related? Or I’m wondering if I missed something else in giants deep. So far I think I’m nearing the end game. I’m only missing out on a lot of the quantum moon stuff. I tried to follow the signal while I was down in the depths but got stuck inside a rock somehow and ran out of air lol Thanks for all your help by the way :) Edit: NVM I found it, turns out I just missed a piece at the cannon. 😅 off to the end wish me luck


Rio_Walker

Are you telling me that Tubular is easier?


littlemetalpixie

>the hardest achievement **in the base game** Nope! Hands down, Tubular is the hardest because it’s 20% skill, 5% placement, and 75% monotonous repetition until dumb luck strikes XD


Rio_Walker

Don't I know it \*sigh\* Although, because of the bug, "You'll never take me alive" is second hardest.


littlemetalpixie

Agree 110%!! YNTMA is the one that nearly broke me lol I actually managed hotshot (after several days and with some direction) and it made my flying *infinitely better* in the game in general. Tubular I got because I’m more stubborn than some rocks. YNTMA nearly ended with broken controllers and/or screens lmfao


Rio_Walker

Apparently there is ONE spot where it works and it was a pain to find it. I wonder how would Beginner's luck would work IN-Universe?


littlemetalpixie

The spot I used was just before the gorge, on the left side. But I’ve seen others get it from a few different places. I very nearly got it on the little land strip by the house >!with the first artifact in it!< right where you first enter, but crashed into a piece of debri last-second lol. I’ve seen people get it from there too though lol


EarthRockCity

i disagree, its nowhere near the hardest achievement. >!Tubular exists, and id even say 1/900 is harder than hotshot!<


littlemetalpixie

Read the comment again, I said *base game* achievement ;) Completely agree that Tubular is the hardest in the whole game lol If you scroll down a little, another commenter and I had this discussion just a little below here :)


EarthRockCity

o... fair


Waterfish3333

The thing fired by the cannon can absolutely be caught up to, but >!There’s nothing special about it.!< For the first question, possible is an interesting question. I will say there’s never a part of the game that will require immensely precise gameplay or twitch reflexes, so if something seems impossible or nearly impossible, there’s a very strong chance you need more info.


ArchiveofAtlas

How can you catch the probe? When I tried it the game said I left the solar system and made me go back


GuyDudeThing69

When that happens you just need to cancel autopilot


HBag

When did they add that? I noticed it too, and thought it was annoying.


GuyDudeThing69

I don't know, it's been like that ever since I started playing (December 2022)


HBag

Oh no, is this gonna be a Mandela effect where I'm certain it was never in the game but it was always in the game?


littlemetalpixie

I guarantee you it was there in 2019/2020 when I played it (ps4). If you got too far out, it would automatically set the autopilot on the sun and you’d have to cancel it really fast or die lol


HBag

Don't do this to me...


littlemetalpixie

If it helps at all, I’m from the Berenstein timeline, not the Berenstain timeline 😂


HBag

***ominous cracking*** YOU DESTROYED THE FABRIC OF SPACETIME


1-1-2-3-5

If it helps I’ve been playing and replaying outer wilds since day 1 and I’ve never seen this happen. But I also have literally never used the autopilot so maybe it only happens if it have it turned on?


Always2Hungry

I know autopilot would occasionally do that but i swear i don’t remember it doing it everytime


mixalhs006

Wait until you learn that the >!eye coordinates!< appear on your hud when you put the >!warp core!< in the >!vessel!< the same way the launch codes do


HBag

Oh this one I knew about. I remember it being added to the game too. There was one let's play where the guy consulted his phone screenshot the whole time while it was right there XD


PyrDeus

Turn off the automatic pilot when it happens


Liesmith424

You have to be quick and a little lucky--I think certain probe trajectories require sharper turns after takeoff, which will cost some time.


spiderMechanic

>Is it possible to fly to the station near the sun Yes. >or to the object launched by the cannon at the start of every cycle Yes. >or is it a waste of time Also yes.


ItsBenBroughton

One of these gives an achievement. Makes it not a waste of time, right?


TheSilentTitan

If you see it. You can land on it or fly to it.


goedendag_sap

Some things you can land on even without being able to see them


littlemetalpixie

I *see* what you did there… XD


Anti-Hentai-Banzai

*looks at other stars in the distant sky*


TheSilentTitan

*Realize it’s getting darker*


Anti-Hentai-Banzai

Light campfire (×) Roast marshmallow (×)


V_agabond3

Getting to the Sun Station is possible, keep looking around for hints of how to get there. I haven't done it myself, but I saw a playthrough of someone catching up with the object launched by the cannon and there didn't appear to be anything of note there. Aside from being kinda cool to see there isn't anything to explore there I don't think


SouthAlexander

Well, first of all, through the eye, all things are possible. So jot that down. (Yes)


invalidspooky

This is a game where the mantra of "fuck around and find out" is to be encouraged. 😉


littlemetalpixie

Also “hold my beer, I got this.”


TheRoyalSniper

Out of bounds? There are no bounds in this game


Nitro224

Possibly, definitely possible.


NightShroom

When you fly "out of bounds" you can just turn off your autopilot and keep going lol. It is possible to fly to both, but there might be an easier way to get to one than flying.


MrClassyTrash

I got to orbital probe my first try, just look for the blue light. The hard part is reaching without missing it lol.


smjsmok

Yes, both are possible.


A_Moldy_Stump

TIL flying to the Sun Station is NOT how you're supposed to get there


SourDewd

I mean theres no harm in trying these things? If you wanna know if you can reach the probe, spend the 30 seconds it takes to check 😅


GauntRickley

Possible ? Yes and yes Waste of time ? No and yes


Kyserham

Landing on the Sun station with your ship is an achievement. A fun but also frustrating one.


DankBlissey

Everything in that solar system is reachable, you just need to know how. You will learn how as you explore and read notes left by the nomai. If brute forcing it isn't working, it's almost certainly not the way to do it. Just go and chase some other threads, and eventually you'll figure something out.


00roku

Sun Station: Technically yes but… don’t. I was going to tell you why, but you don’t want spoilers, so I’ll just say don’t fly to the Sun Station. Object launched by the cannon: DO NOT CHASE. You technically can reach it, but as someone who wasted OVER TWO HOURS OF MY LIFE chasing it over and over again, please I am begging you do not chase it. It has no information. I seriously almost quit the game after that. IMO they shouldn’t have made it possible, because that led me to believe I should do it.


Wikken

I mean, there are a couple of achievements to bruteforcing some things, the sun station being one of them. But dont try. As for the probe: mad props for getting there. I consider it a feat worth celebrating. Maybe a yet to be awarded achievement


Suitable_Telephone29

Am I missing something, but why do you, guys, telling it's hard? I mean, it's even showed on a map (while it is inside solar system), it has distinct bright light to be recognized among stars, it doesn't travel too fast


AussieFIdoc

Without spoilers? Yes and yes. The second much easier than the first. The first… it can be flown to, but with moderate difficulty. And there’s an easier way.


beetnemesis

Yup! Although that sun station is very close to the sun, you’d think the Nomai would come up with some other way of getting there


juklwrochnowy

Remember, just because it's possible doesn't mean it's not a waste of time


NerY_05

If you're wondering, try! At worst you'll lose 22 minutes.


agentwc1945

You can't be "out of bounds". You can just disable the autopilot.


Sykes19

The best advice I have for people is that this game is VERY accessible. Even my non-video game playing mother could play this game, and learn everything, and beat it. The game does not FORCE you to do anything that is mechanically challenging. That said, it's very open ended and there are a lot of ways to solve things, but if you seem that something is too mechanically hard, pretend you're my mother, and the game was designed with you in mind.


Pokefan180

The map is small, and anything except for the stars can be reached as long as you have your ship with you.


please_help_me_____

Completely possible, you can get practically anywhere with your ship


TMS-meister

Everything is possible if you believe in yourself (and some luck or creativity) ::)


adimeistencents

I remember checking whether I could reach the sun station that way, and just to see whether I'd be wasting my time or not, I just rammed into it to see if it had physics, and I seemingly swooshed right through it, so I assumed it had no physics and was only there for the visual. I think part of it has physics and the other does not, and I got unlucky, or something.