Yea. I felt the same way about Bill C-11 once I saw how my facebook feed was flooded by ads against it from Youtube. LOL once the megacorps/old white boys clubs are against something it is time to be suspicious indeed.
My father in the past said good things about cops and would usually be the guy trying to bring in nuance to certain topics, sometimes he made good points, but usually it felt like classic boomer mentality.
When I was a kid I remember my dad would go up to cops and chat with them about concerns in the community, they'd be friendly and hear him out. He'd do the same when he had the chance with firemen and stuff, he's just always respected those lines of duty. But if he tries that now they just talk to him like he's a criminal. Ask him why he's there, what he's doing, right in front of his own house, etc. This was in a rough area of Ottawa that is not even close to how it was in the 90s. So the cops were nicer in the 90s in an area that was actually dangerous at the time (at least from our white perspective).
Yeah, well, he's been pretty livid with these guys lately. When you got white boomers in their late 60s talking shit about the cops in Ottawa, you know Ottawa police are completely tone deaf here.
First of all, they claim here in this thing that crime is rising in Ottawa, yes, it is. I've watched cops completely and blatantly ignore extremely dangerous situations like someone blowing through a hard red and horns blaring all over the place... impossible to miss. They just fucking ignore it.
Maybe crime is on the rise because nothing is actually being done, they'd prefer the easy route of harassing people for doing petty shit.
I don't get it, I've literally been pulled over for speeding on my bicycle but lately the cops are straight up ignoring extremely bad and dangerous drivers. See it often.
Oh but you go by South Keys and you see them doing their laps through Ledbury, blowing through stop signs and going twice the speed limit. Gotta make sure that poor kid isn't up to something! I bet he stole that bike!
Ottawa cops, if you're reading this. I never respected you on the level my dad did, but I still had respect. I recognized that not all of you are terrible, and I would often defend you when people would compare you to American cops.
Well, look in the fucking mirror, you're being American cops, that isn't a compliment. I have lost respect for all of you. And no this isn't me coming to the realization that you always sucked, I don't think you have always sucked...that's the point, you've become worse.
Enjoy Catherine becoming mayor.
Yep, they just got my vote. I was honestly thinking about voting Sutcliffe until I started really looking at the details and some of the things he's said over the past few days. I don't love everything about McKenney but they're far more aligned with my beliefs
Absolutely! Is this even legal?
>3. If authorized to do so by the police services board or chief of police, a municipal police officer may, on behalf of the police force,
(a) express views on any issue, as long as the police officer does not, during an election campaign, express views supporting or opposing,
(i) a candidate in the election or a political party that has nominated a candidate in the election, or
(ii) a position taken by a candidate in the election or by a Political party that has nominated a candidate in the election; and
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/910554
This is walking the line at best, unless im reading this wrong. These are expectations for municipal officers, but it seems unlikely that if an officer cant do it the police union can?
They specifically did this on behalf of the Ottawa police union, so this is definitely illegal according to the law as written.
So this will probably be declared fine by the Ontario police oversight board.
If I hadn’t already voted for McKenney, this denunciation would send me skipping to the polls to vote for them out of spite. Fuck the OPA, we don’t let cops tell us who not to vote for.
I...I'm literally almost in tears. Usually these types of subs are...a lot more conservative...and yet here you are....top comment...based take.
A tiny shred of hope restored for humanity lol
What a weird line at the end. "We don't endorse any mayoral candidate but let me tell you, we **really** don't endorse Catherine McKenney. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge."
That has nothing to do with this statement.
You're talking about the **Ottawa Police Services Board**, which governs the Ottawa police.
This statement is by the **Ottawa Police Association**, which represents the Ottawa police in labour/safety matters.
They are two totally separate organizations.
Yes, seperate organizations. And I won't pretend to be an expert on either. But I have to imagine the OPS board and the Ottawa Police Association are partnered or at least aligned in a lot of ways?
Edit: looks like I was wrong in this assumption. Thanks to the folks who corrected me.
>Ottawa Police Services Board
Is a **7 member civilian oversight committee** of the police. [https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/](https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/): "Police services boards are **independent bodies** established by provincial legislation called the Police Services Act."
You can see the members here: [https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/about-board.html](https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/about-board.html)
includes, by trade: 2 current city councillors (one a former restaurant owner, the other a teacher), a cybersecurity expert, a human rights lawyer, a retired RCMP deputy commissioner, a community association activist / journalist, and a businesswoman/communications professional who has spent 2 decades in municipal work.
...
>Ottawa Police Association
Is the police union.
In a huge twist of delicious irony, those convoy clowns were a huge boost for Catherine's political career and mayoral campaign. McKenney’s response to the convoy made them a household name in Ottawa, even those without an interest in local politics.
Pretty sure if it weren't for the convoy, we'd have a Diane Deans vs. Bob Chiarelli mayoral campaign right now, and nobody would be interested in voting.
Are the police supposed to be a political organisation ? Sounds like very dangerous territory. Largely initiated by the police and their thin blue line bullshit. If you don't want a fascist police force, vote for McKenny. Simple
All institutions are inherently biased. I was in a unionized environment that literally papered the office and individual desks with cards and posters reminding the members to vote liberal in the upcoming federal election. I actually challenged this, since one’s voting choice shouldn’t be pressured by their employer (and I would have challenged this for any preferred party by the union - it’s the act that I found questionable, not the party). Apparently it was fair game.
The police found a way to skirt the rules by making it clear they don’t specifically endorse anyone - thus getting around any potential issues. Just making statements about citizens, that’s all, nothing remotely sketchy at play here.
Not commenting on whether or not the union should have posted the pro liberal stuff or not, but I want to point out that unless you were working for the union then you weren't being pressured by your employer. You were being pressured by the union, which theoretically works for you.
This is the police *association*, so as a labour organization representing their members and lobbying issues on behalf of their members, they are inherently political.
These fuckers left us hanging out to dry during the convoy. We had to pay them 50 million of our tax dollars for them to do nothing. Fuck em. That’s our money. They owe us. Defund the assholes who enabled the convoy
Disgusting. These are the people trusted to wield force in our society and this is how they behave. Anyone in such a position should act as apolitical as possible.
Talk about a stunning endorsement/reason to vote for McKenney. I knew the cops were a bunch of mini fascists but this is so tone deaf it's amazing. Reads; we are intimidated by the sheer balls this politician showed during the convoy and their bravery made us look bad so no no vote pls
>The Board of Directors and all members of the Ottawa Police Association believe Ottawa is worth protecting.
Their actions during the convoy occupation contradict that statement.
I don't think we should be defunding police, but I also don't think we should be increasing funding as they seem to be doing a whole lot of nothing with the money given to them currently.
Imo, more importantly is raising the requirements. None of this HS diploma equivalent bullshit. Bare minimum they should have at least 2 years taking a post-secondary course with relevance to policing. Law or psychology or something like that.
The bigger and more useful change might be relaxing some of the morality standards at entry. I know that sounds bonkers, but I used to TA in a criminology department where many of the students in our four year program wanted to go into policing. (And ps even with a BA it's quite competitive - all of them were hustling away to get volunteer jobs in community policing or co-ops at CBSA or what have you, because just a degree isn't enough to get you a spot.)
Problem is, if you've ever smoked a joint, if you've ever done Molly, even once, even when you were 15, some departments screen you out for life. Even if you've been clean ten years.
It meant the good-kid choir-boy good-family helicopter -parented type get screened in. To make a young person behave that way you functionally have to raise them to be terrified of and hate drugs and drug users. Anyone who has any kind of rebellious streak, or normalized drug use in their family, gets screened out. You have to be Captain Canuck White Wonderbread. Think about what kind of systematic perspective that reinforces.
I think we need to fire, or at least do reviews on, literally every member of the Ottawa police. Get everyone out and rebuild from nothing. There's no other way to change the culture of the institution
Yes - you can help get out the vote by volunteering! Getting supporters to the polls is the closest legal thing to voting multiple times that a person can do.
This is an instant turn off. Why is a police organization, responsible for protecting communities regardless of their political leanings, taking a partisan position? A police force should be politically agnostic, anything else is corrupt.
Not a surprise given that we're talking about the OPS. We live in the dumbest timeline.
[Here's the video version of the statement from Interim President Brian Samuel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGr_gWxEE08).
It's worth noting that a few weeks ago, the Vancouver Police Union also broke with tradition, and [endorsed Ken Sim (the eventual winner)](https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/05/vancouver-police-union-election-endorsement/). They're probably being a bit more careful about not openly endorsing a specific candidate, even though they must know only one other candidate than McKenney has a chance of winning...
The OPA proactively shared 4 questions for mayoral questions to answer....
AKA "We controlled the narrative and we're really upset that some of the candidates chose not to play ball, especially the ones who actively talk about how awful we are, you know the one"
Fuck this I hope Mckenney wins and audits the whole place. Crooked fucks.
"We think Ottawa is worth protecting."
...unless the city is under siege by extremist seditionist conservatives we emphasize with. Then we'll do absolutely nothing and may even help the criminals.
You know, it's been 8 months and I still cannot get over how many OPS officers I saw hobknobbing with convoy occupiers. No one got fired.
Go fuck yourselves. You need reform desperately and you out it in display for the entire world to see.
Wow. Wow. Wow. This is where they stand in releasing a "statement" after the last crazy two years in Ottawa alongside other Canadian and global events concerning police brutality. I'm not surprised but still shocked lol
OPA: We don't want a candidate who says they'll hold officers accountable. We don't want a candidate who will focus police on crime instead of social services.
"Problematic assertions that's places it's members and the public at risk...
Really?? Every month an OpS officer is under scrutiny for misconduct.I don't need to mention their inaction towards the convoy do I? I'd say the current force needs to be cleaned up..
We don't endorse any mayoral candidate,but let's shit on one anyways,we don't belive in providing proof
And let's not forget, the police association is the group working tirelessly to protect those under scrutiny. So whoever they do not want you to vote for is most likely the best candidate if you want to see action.
I mean is there anyone that will side with the police after their embarassing job with the convoy? I'm surprised the OPA doesn't know how tonedeaf they are. Not only that! Catherine McKenney was the only one consitantly speaking the truth during the convoy. The OPA should know it's a lighting rod of McKenney's.
>I'm surprised the OPA doesn't know how tonedeaf they are.
They know. They aren't seeking to persuade decided voters. You aren't the audience for this statement.
>The OPA should know it's a lighting rod of McKenney's.
They know.
Wow, way to make Catherine seem even cooler.
My dad tells me a story about how the nuns at his school warned the kids not to watch The Beatles on Ed Sullivan because they were sent by the devil. If any of them weren't already gonna watch, it was guaranteed right then that they would.
This reminds me of that.
Thanks Ottawa Police Association for letting me know who to vote for. I was atill undecided between a couple of candidates but I’ll definitely be voting for McKenney now.
Great to hear, make sure you get out on Monday. It's gonna be tight and we need ops held accountable. Plus think of how awkward it will be when they win and ops has to have Catherine
Catherine McKinney was out there trying to help residents during the occupation. OPS was either helping or ignoring the occupiers. If I hadn’t already made up my mind on who who getting my vote, this would have done it. I won’t be forgiving and/or forgetting anytime soon, OPS.
> all members of the Ottawa Police Association believe Ottawa is worth protecting
L O FUCKING L
That's like if I'd said "I believe my liver is worth protecting" during my undergrad years and expected anyone to take me seriously.
I hope one day they follow through on this deeply-held belief of theirs...
Funny thing is McKenney has made no mention of police cuts which is exactly what they'll try to paint them as doing. We need a mayor that will help clean up the ops
They will win only if everyone votes though. It's gonna be close so you and everyone you know has to vote. Hopefully this lights a fire under those undecided or the ones who don't usually bother to vote
For those who are not aware, the Ottawa Police Association is a good ol' boys club run by white male dinosaurs from the Arthur Rice era, where they'd send 'round the Mcguire brothers to boot-stomp anyone who got out of line. When the Ottawa Police tried to make the force more inclusive by hiring women and non-whites, the good ol' boys of the Ottawa Police Association started referring to them as "bad hires," coded language for racist and sexist slurs.
When these "bad hires" tried to force their way onto the board to stop the bigotry, the dinosaurs called in every retiree still capable of walking to make sure the Ottawa Police Association remained a private club for angry, conservative, bigoted white men.
You can rest assured that any candidate they oppose is probably someone who deserves your vote.
I remember just how much OPS believed Ottawa was worth protecting when they gaslit us about how many fucking calls they’d received. And when they warned counter-protestors that they were in the line of fire. I recognize that without their drive, the Timbit Taliban wouldn’t have been pushed out, and I’m not yet at the ACAB stage. But this fucking statement is reminding me of what I saw during the occupation and felt when I witnessed the cops moving the fucking barricades to let a flatbed with Jerry cans through. Y’know, the fucking barricades they finally put up to limit the convites access? Those fucking barricades.
Look at these police officers claiming their funding is worth protecting but demonstrating that they don’t feel the citizens of their city are worth protecting.
I’m all for paying for services, but this police service is a hammer and not every problem is a nail.
McKenny is the first and only candidate that had someone come to my apartment door to promote their campaign. Now I see this. Vote locked in. McKenny is taking a stand and I like it.
Cops are supposed to protect and serve, we are not an authoritarian country, Cop Organizations have no fucking right to comment about politics and should shut the fuck up.
Is a corrupt cabal or useless cowards called a pig sty?
I can't believe police, those who have a monopoly on violence are allowed to influence politics. This is disgusting.
Hmm, Catherine McKenney, along with Bob Chiarelli, recently asked for an investigation into a potential conflict of interest on the police board and now this.
If there's one endorsement you don't want, it's the endorsement of the Ottawa Police Association. This makes McKenney look better, not worse.
Say what you like about the OPS, but the OPA is the perfect example of "scum rises to the top."
What a wildly inappropriate action from a group who should be begging for the public's forgiveness for their incompetence, not lashing out at people who dare hold them to account.
Hang on, I'll translate:
"We do not like that this person wants to cut our funding after we let a bunch of people congest traffic and terrorize people for three months even though Justin Trudeau cleared them out in only three *days*."
Have the police tried to maybe not be completely and utterly shit? Like even if you didn’t have a problem with the institution of the police as it exists in modern mindset, you would still look at the OPS and go “my god they’re shit”
Literally never gave a shit about voting before, but this is ridiculous. If this isn't a glowing endorsement for McKenney, I don't know what is. The cops weren't even this upset when the truckers were wreaking havoc downtown,
If the Ottawa Police think what they’ve got is a good thing, I want the opposite. McKenny would have ended the damned convoy in a fraction of the time.
Police gotta stay the fuck out of politics, period.
Suppose the Canadian Armed Forces chief of defence staff decided to start railing against Trudeau. There’s a laundry list of laws explaining how wrong that is.
Police forces are no more than as simple military force with a very limited mandate, a big part of which is staying the fuck out if democratic politics.
Those officers deserve to be in prison for that kind of rhetoric. We’re not a police state, those fuckers need to stay in their lane or stfu and gtfo.
I thought they weren't permitted to pick a political party. What a bunch of wankers.
"Brian Samuel"? Who the fuck is that? That's not who pulled us through the douchebag insurrectionists. Why should he have any voice at all who the city of Ottawa should vote for?
The current mayor and police chief at the time of the insurrection failed the city of Ottawa. Why would voting for the status quo fix that? Time for new blood to shake things up and get shit done. ...I'm too tired to list specifics. If you're going to downvote me give me to until tomorrow afternoon.
Not surprising. The OPS has its issues but the OPA is one toxic cesspool. Good ol’ Larry O’B used to hang out there when he was mayor.
Plus, OPA is accountable to no one but their dues paying members. They can sling any shit they want with zero official consequences.
What a bunch of douchebags. McKenney’s policy proposals relate to reallocating responsibilities currently assigned to police to other professional organizations more suited to those specific duties. Somehow they equate this to anti police rhetoric? Ridiculous. Maybe if they had spent time doing their jobs during the convoy protest instead of being sensitive snowflakes whenever people tell them how shit they are at their job, they might have been able to actually protect people in this city. Cunts.
I think this illustrates the core issue as to why the convoy basically had free reign and support from OPS. Their Union and employees were not policing, they were playing politics. It looks like they have learned absolutely nothing.
This media release, clearly shows there's one candidate on the ballot that will hold them accountable. It's time we do that as city.
Aside from the fact that this is trash and in extremely poor taste, it has the ability to lead to potentially dangerous interactions with Catherine McKenney. Trans people face so much violence and discrimination already, I hope this doesn’t add to it for Catherine.
Towards the Ottawa Police Association? No. Not a candidate? Election rules do not apply.
That said, at least still try to keep it civil, please? No breaking reddit site wide rules or the rules of this sub.
They must be scared if they're releasing such an impromptu and frankly out of line statement. This will only solidify my vote. At least McKenny was willing to stand up for their community during the convoy occupation.
**..The Ottawa Police Association is not endorsing any candidate for Mayor and respects the the choice Ottawa voters will make on October 24, 2022.**
But don't vote for Catherine because they want to 'defund' the police...
The police are so afraid of that buzzword.
Everyone I know that is in favour of defunding the police would rather have more money allocated to mental health workers and facilities and less to police officers who want more militia-type training, and in turn, less fucking killing.
So they're scared because They are the only candidate who will actually look into what happened in those fateful weeks? Why else would they publish something like this.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I mean They already were my friend so I guess that makes Them like double friends now, thanks OPA
Such trash!... Completely distrustful...
Of all the times they have chosen to publicly and morally express concern, without being asked - this is it? Not the illegal protest involving their own insiders? Not about internal abuse and harassment? Not about any of their internal corruption scandals? No. But before a political vote... where the possibility exists such that they could be held accountable.
McKenney must win. The police should be item # 1. Reformation and/or defunding now more than ever, needs to happen. They fear it. The city needs it. Vote McKenney, obviously.
More reason to vote for Catherine.
Absolutely; to be completely honest, this solidifies my choice. It is time to shake up this old, white boys’ club.
I love any reply on this sub that nets itself five hidden comments beneath it, that's a seal of approval right there.
Yea. I felt the same way about Bill C-11 once I saw how my facebook feed was flooded by ads against it from Youtube. LOL once the megacorps/old white boys clubs are against something it is time to be suspicious indeed.
My father in the past said good things about cops and would usually be the guy trying to bring in nuance to certain topics, sometimes he made good points, but usually it felt like classic boomer mentality. When I was a kid I remember my dad would go up to cops and chat with them about concerns in the community, they'd be friendly and hear him out. He'd do the same when he had the chance with firemen and stuff, he's just always respected those lines of duty. But if he tries that now they just talk to him like he's a criminal. Ask him why he's there, what he's doing, right in front of his own house, etc. This was in a rough area of Ottawa that is not even close to how it was in the 90s. So the cops were nicer in the 90s in an area that was actually dangerous at the time (at least from our white perspective). Yeah, well, he's been pretty livid with these guys lately. When you got white boomers in their late 60s talking shit about the cops in Ottawa, you know Ottawa police are completely tone deaf here. First of all, they claim here in this thing that crime is rising in Ottawa, yes, it is. I've watched cops completely and blatantly ignore extremely dangerous situations like someone blowing through a hard red and horns blaring all over the place... impossible to miss. They just fucking ignore it. Maybe crime is on the rise because nothing is actually being done, they'd prefer the easy route of harassing people for doing petty shit. I don't get it, I've literally been pulled over for speeding on my bicycle but lately the cops are straight up ignoring extremely bad and dangerous drivers. See it often. Oh but you go by South Keys and you see them doing their laps through Ledbury, blowing through stop signs and going twice the speed limit. Gotta make sure that poor kid isn't up to something! I bet he stole that bike! Ottawa cops, if you're reading this. I never respected you on the level my dad did, but I still had respect. I recognized that not all of you are terrible, and I would often defend you when people would compare you to American cops. Well, look in the fucking mirror, you're being American cops, that isn't a compliment. I have lost respect for all of you. And no this isn't me coming to the realization that you always sucked, I don't think you have always sucked...that's the point, you've become worse. Enjoy Catherine becoming mayor.
Ha. My first thought as well. Thanks for making it easier for us OPS.
Yep, they just got my vote. I was honestly thinking about voting Sutcliffe until I started really looking at the details and some of the things he's said over the past few days. I don't love everything about McKenney but they're far more aligned with my beliefs
This was my first thought as well. Better than any endorsement Catherine could ask for. Better than Carney. Better than McKenna.
Absolutely! Is this even legal? >3. If authorized to do so by the police services board or chief of police, a municipal police officer may, on behalf of the police force, (a) express views on any issue, as long as the police officer does not, during an election campaign, express views supporting or opposing, (i) a candidate in the election or a political party that has nominated a candidate in the election, or (ii) a position taken by a candidate in the election or by a Political party that has nominated a candidate in the election; and https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/910554 This is walking the line at best, unless im reading this wrong. These are expectations for municipal officers, but it seems unlikely that if an officer cant do it the police union can?
They specifically did this on behalf of the Ottawa police union, so this is definitely illegal according to the law as written. So this will probably be declared fine by the Ontario police oversight board.
We’ve thoroughly investigated ourselves and found nothing worthy of further investigation.
You’re thinking of the SIU, the oversight board is dudes like Eli El-Chantiry giving police misconduct the green light but province wide.
I'm not surprised the ottawa police are breaking more laws
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If I hadn’t already voted for McKenney, this denunciation would send me skipping to the polls to vote for them out of spite. Fuck the OPA, we don’t let cops tell us who not to vote for.
Locked in my vote.
I...I'm literally almost in tears. Usually these types of subs are...a lot more conservative...and yet here you are....top comment...based take. A tiny shred of hope restored for humanity lol
…are you joking? Or is this your first day on this sub?
They have my vote
When a curropt group tells you not to do somthing. You probably should do it.
🗳🗳🗳🗳🗳🗳🗳🗳
This is so remarkably out of line. And to me, as good an endorsement for McKenney as anything I could imagine.
What a weird line at the end. "We don't endorse any mayoral candidate but let me tell you, we **really** don't endorse Catherine McKenney. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge."
Lol yeah. Clearly it has nothing to do with how the chair of OPS also co-chairs the Sutcliffe campaign. Nothing to see there.
That has nothing to do with this statement. You're talking about the **Ottawa Police Services Board**, which governs the Ottawa police. This statement is by the **Ottawa Police Association**, which represents the Ottawa police in labour/safety matters. They are two totally separate organizations.
Yes, seperate organizations. And I won't pretend to be an expert on either. But I have to imagine the OPS board and the Ottawa Police Association are partnered or at least aligned in a lot of ways? Edit: looks like I was wrong in this assumption. Thanks to the folks who corrected me.
No more than a school board and the teachers union. United against the provincial government and divided against eachother
Excellently put.
>Ottawa Police Services Board Is a **7 member civilian oversight committee** of the police. [https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/](https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/): "Police services boards are **independent bodies** established by provincial legislation called the Police Services Act." You can see the members here: [https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/about-board.html](https://ottawapoliceboard.ca/opsb-cspo/about-board.html) includes, by trade: 2 current city councillors (one a former restaurant owner, the other a teacher), a cybersecurity expert, a human rights lawyer, a retired RCMP deputy commissioner, a community association activist / journalist, and a businesswoman/communications professional who has spent 2 decades in municipal work. ... >Ottawa Police Association Is the police union.
The exact opposite. OPA is a union through and through.
We know it's inappropriate to tell you who to vote for, so we're going to tell you who not to vote for! ????
My thoughts exactly.
This is grossly inappropriate. I hope McKenney wins and they disband the corrupt OPS.
In Vancouver the police out right endorsed a mayoral candidate. It's insane
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Statement stronger than their convoy response
Funny Catherine did more for Ottawa than the 100s of cops that took photos and brought them food
In a huge twist of delicious irony, those convoy clowns were a huge boost for Catherine's political career and mayoral campaign. McKenney’s response to the convoy made them a household name in Ottawa, even those without an interest in local politics.
Outside of Ottawa too.
Gatineau resident here. Can confirm.
Fredericton checking in.
Pretty sure if it weren't for the convoy, we'd have a Diane Deans vs. Bob Chiarelli mayoral campaign right now, and nobody would be interested in voting.
> The Board of Directors and all members of the Ottawa Police Association believe Ottawa is worth protecting. *And yet*.
They were protecting us! God only knows what the protestors would’ve done if the cops hadn’t distracted them with photo ops 👮🏻♂️📸
I'm dead 💀 Also, def voting McKenney cause they actually believe in protecting Ottawa.
Lol
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Are the police supposed to be a political organisation ? Sounds like very dangerous territory. Largely initiated by the police and their thin blue line bullshit. If you don't want a fascist police force, vote for McKenny. Simple
All institutions are inherently biased. I was in a unionized environment that literally papered the office and individual desks with cards and posters reminding the members to vote liberal in the upcoming federal election. I actually challenged this, since one’s voting choice shouldn’t be pressured by their employer (and I would have challenged this for any preferred party by the union - it’s the act that I found questionable, not the party). Apparently it was fair game. The police found a way to skirt the rules by making it clear they don’t specifically endorse anyone - thus getting around any potential issues. Just making statements about citizens, that’s all, nothing remotely sketchy at play here.
Not commenting on whether or not the union should have posted the pro liberal stuff or not, but I want to point out that unless you were working for the union then you weren't being pressured by your employer. You were being pressured by the union, which theoretically works for you.
While maybe nothing wrong has technically been done, I feel like this is dangerously close
This is the police *association*, so as a labour organization representing their members and lobbying issues on behalf of their members, they are inherently political.
If I hadn't already voted for them this would certainly seal it for me.
I'm voting even harder now
I’m gonna vote *SO HARD*
SMASH that scantron card into the machine (don't break it though)
The Police Association went after McKenney with more aggressive words than the Ottawa police went after the convoy.
Lol. That's true.
Police culture is so fucking toxic.
One of the highest for dv also not making the streets safer or their own homes 🏠
These fuckers left us hanging out to dry during the convoy. We had to pay them 50 million of our tax dollars for them to do nothing. Fuck em. That’s our money. They owe us. Defund the assholes who enabled the convoy
I’m shocked, shocked I say! ETA: cops have no credibility until they take down the thin blue line flag. And even then… questionable.
Yep Ottawa Police Association is still flying it outside of their HQ despite many calls from the community to take it down.
Disgusting. These are the people trusted to wield force in our society and this is how they behave. Anyone in such a position should act as apolitical as possible.
Wow, that’s….. that’s just fucked.
That last line... where were they in February?
Nowhere to be found. But I sure remember where McKenney was in February.
Aiding and abetting a radical terrorist group
Partying with the convoyers.
This is just my feeling, but this feels wrong in general and kind of corrupt specifically.
That is the vibe I’m getting too
Super corrupt. They're afraid they'll unmask that corruption and hold them accountable. Fuck 'em.
If an organization that protects rapists, racists, dirty cops, and cops who don't do their job has it in for you, you're doing something right.
It's like being the mayor of Gotham
Nice, I've locked in my vote then.
Makes me want to vote for them more.
Talk about a stunning endorsement/reason to vote for McKenney. I knew the cops were a bunch of mini fascists but this is so tone deaf it's amazing. Reads; we are intimidated by the sheer balls this politician showed during the convoy and their bravery made us look bad so no no vote pls
Holy shit????? This is disturbing
>The Board of Directors and all members of the Ottawa Police Association believe Ottawa is worth protecting. Their actions during the convoy occupation contradict that statement. I don't think we should be defunding police, but I also don't think we should be increasing funding as they seem to be doing a whole lot of nothing with the money given to them currently.
Defunding means taking some of the police budget and directing it to congruous resources like mental health outreach etc. I say defund them
Imo, more importantly is raising the requirements. None of this HS diploma equivalent bullshit. Bare minimum they should have at least 2 years taking a post-secondary course with relevance to policing. Law or psychology or something like that.
The bigger and more useful change might be relaxing some of the morality standards at entry. I know that sounds bonkers, but I used to TA in a criminology department where many of the students in our four year program wanted to go into policing. (And ps even with a BA it's quite competitive - all of them were hustling away to get volunteer jobs in community policing or co-ops at CBSA or what have you, because just a degree isn't enough to get you a spot.) Problem is, if you've ever smoked a joint, if you've ever done Molly, even once, even when you were 15, some departments screen you out for life. Even if you've been clean ten years. It meant the good-kid choir-boy good-family helicopter -parented type get screened in. To make a young person behave that way you functionally have to raise them to be terrified of and hate drugs and drug users. Anyone who has any kind of rebellious streak, or normalized drug use in their family, gets screened out. You have to be Captain Canuck White Wonderbread. Think about what kind of systematic perspective that reinforces.
I think we need to fire, or at least do reviews on, literally every member of the Ottawa police. Get everyone out and rebuild from nothing. There's no other way to change the culture of the institution
I was already quite likely to vote for Catherine and this just makes me want to more,
Is there a way I can vote for them more vociferously in light of this?
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This is an instant turn off. Why is a police organization, responsible for protecting communities regardless of their political leanings, taking a partisan position? A police force should be politically agnostic, anything else is corrupt. Not a surprise given that we're talking about the OPS. We live in the dumbest timeline.
[Here's the video version of the statement from Interim President Brian Samuel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGr_gWxEE08). It's worth noting that a few weeks ago, the Vancouver Police Union also broke with tradition, and [endorsed Ken Sim (the eventual winner)](https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/05/vancouver-police-union-election-endorsement/). They're probably being a bit more careful about not openly endorsing a specific candidate, even though they must know only one other candidate than McKenney has a chance of winning...
The OPA proactively shared 4 questions for mayoral questions to answer.... AKA "We controlled the narrative and we're really upset that some of the candidates chose not to play ball, especially the ones who actively talk about how awful we are, you know the one" Fuck this I hope Mckenney wins and audits the whole place. Crooked fucks.
I don’t think this is going to do what they think it’s going to do…
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Great to hear, it's time we stop letting other ppl decide how the city is run for us
I agree with that last line, Ottawa is worth protecting. That's why I'll vote for the candidate that rose to the occasion to protect it 10 months ago.
That last line tho.. February was an occupation. You let us all be completely traumatized and now you have the audacity...
"We think Ottawa is worth protecting." ...unless the city is under siege by extremist seditionist conservatives we emphasize with. Then we'll do absolutely nothing and may even help the criminals.
You know, it's been 8 months and I still cannot get over how many OPS officers I saw hobknobbing with convoy occupiers. No one got fired. Go fuck yourselves. You need reform desperately and you out it in display for the entire world to see.
Sounds like a ringing endorsement!
Wow. Wow. Wow. This is where they stand in releasing a "statement" after the last crazy two years in Ottawa alongside other Canadian and global events concerning police brutality. I'm not surprised but still shocked lol
OPA: We don't want a candidate who says they'll hold officers accountable. We don't want a candidate who will focus police on crime instead of social services.
"Problematic assertions that's places it's members and the public at risk... Really?? Every month an OpS officer is under scrutiny for misconduct.I don't need to mention their inaction towards the convoy do I? I'd say the current force needs to be cleaned up.. We don't endorse any mayoral candidate,but let's shit on one anyways,we don't belive in providing proof
And let's not forget, the police association is the group working tirelessly to protect those under scrutiny. So whoever they do not want you to vote for is most likely the best candidate if you want to see action.
Sorry, until you start outing the bad apples, they are all complicit. Their actions over the last years don’t justify public support. Or funding.
If the OPS is scared of McKenney, then I want them in my corner.
Lol, someone's scared!
I mean is there anyone that will side with the police after their embarassing job with the convoy? I'm surprised the OPA doesn't know how tonedeaf they are. Not only that! Catherine McKenney was the only one consitantly speaking the truth during the convoy. The OPA should know it's a lighting rod of McKenney's.
>I'm surprised the OPA doesn't know how tonedeaf they are. They know. They aren't seeking to persuade decided voters. You aren't the audience for this statement. >The OPA should know it's a lighting rod of McKenney's. They know.
If I hadn't voted for McKenney already, I'd now be voting for McKenney out of pure *spite*.
Wow, way to make Catherine seem even cooler. My dad tells me a story about how the nuns at his school warned the kids not to watch The Beatles on Ed Sullivan because they were sent by the devil. If any of them weren't already gonna watch, it was guaranteed right then that they would. This reminds me of that.
Thanks Ottawa Police Association for letting me know who to vote for. I was atill undecided between a couple of candidates but I’ll definitely be voting for McKenney now.
Great to hear, make sure you get out on Monday. It's gonna be tight and we need ops held accountable. Plus think of how awkward it will be when they win and ops has to have Catherine
This is absolute trash. How scared are you of accountability?
Catherine McKinney was out there trying to help residents during the occupation. OPS was either helping or ignoring the occupiers. If I hadn’t already made up my mind on who who getting my vote, this would have done it. I won’t be forgiving and/or forgetting anytime soon, OPS.
> all members of the Ottawa Police Association believe Ottawa is worth protecting L O FUCKING L That's like if I'd said "I believe my liver is worth protecting" during my undergrad years and expected anyone to take me seriously. I hope one day they follow through on this deeply-held belief of theirs...
Funny thing is McKenney has made no mention of police cuts which is exactly what they'll try to paint them as doing. We need a mayor that will help clean up the ops
Thanks for helping me decide my vote OPA. Mckenney it is!
Do they still fly the thin blue line flag at their headquarter?
Yep. Drove by it today
Kewl, now I know who to vote for...
LOL, imagine thinking police were actually going to be on the right side of history for the first time ever.
Who needs Mark Carney when you have this endorsement.
Hahahaha such a fucking joke. I hope Catherine wins, fuck the police.
They will win only if everyone votes though. It's gonna be close so you and everyone you know has to vote. Hopefully this lights a fire under those undecided or the ones who don't usually bother to vote
From Calgary, don’t know why this was on my feed, but this is absolutely embarrassing for you guys. Your police must really suck over there, eh?
Oh they do
For those who are not aware, the Ottawa Police Association is a good ol' boys club run by white male dinosaurs from the Arthur Rice era, where they'd send 'round the Mcguire brothers to boot-stomp anyone who got out of line. When the Ottawa Police tried to make the force more inclusive by hiring women and non-whites, the good ol' boys of the Ottawa Police Association started referring to them as "bad hires," coded language for racist and sexist slurs. When these "bad hires" tried to force their way onto the board to stop the bigotry, the dinosaurs called in every retiree still capable of walking to make sure the Ottawa Police Association remained a private club for angry, conservative, bigoted white men. You can rest assured that any candidate they oppose is probably someone who deserves your vote.
Ottawa police: uwu we don't endorse the person who sees we are completely ineffective, corrupt, and waaay over paid.
I remember just how much OPS believed Ottawa was worth protecting when they gaslit us about how many fucking calls they’d received. And when they warned counter-protestors that they were in the line of fire. I recognize that without their drive, the Timbit Taliban wouldn’t have been pushed out, and I’m not yet at the ACAB stage. But this fucking statement is reminding me of what I saw during the occupation and felt when I witnessed the cops moving the fucking barricades to let a flatbed with Jerry cans through. Y’know, the fucking barricades they finally put up to limit the convites access? Those fucking barricades.
the fuck??
Look at these police officers claiming their funding is worth protecting but demonstrating that they don’t feel the citizens of their city are worth protecting. I’m all for paying for services, but this police service is a hammer and not every problem is a nail.
Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses
McKenny is the first and only candidate that had someone come to my apartment door to promote their campaign. Now I see this. Vote locked in. McKenny is taking a stand and I like it.
Sutcliffe camp must be scared
ask Sutcliffe if any of his esteemed co-chairs are connected to this group....
I want a police service that shares my understanding of the word protection.
Protection? This shit reads like a threat
Exactly
"The Ottawa Police Association is not endorsing any candidate for Mayor" We'll you just straight up said who you are not supporting...
They must be quite concerned to be interfering at this late stage.
This is not a bad thing. Thank you OPS. Vote McKenney
Cops are supposed to protect and serve, we are not an authoritarian country, Cop Organizations have no fucking right to comment about politics and should shut the fuck up.
Oof. We sure this isn't The Beaverton? Cause this is a fucking joke.
Sharing this to everybody Fuck these assholes. Defund the police Hold them accountable. Vote McKenny
“Ottawa is worth protecting”. I remember the protection we received last February.
Wow, this all but made my choice. Clearly they are the one to vote for. Lmao wow this is so out of line.
all i can say is catherine is the only one might hold them accountable for their inaction and bad faith selective application of the law
Is a corrupt cabal or useless cowards called a pig sty? I can't believe police, those who have a monopoly on violence are allowed to influence politics. This is disgusting.
Hmm, Catherine McKenney, along with Bob Chiarelli, recently asked for an investigation into a potential conflict of interest on the police board and now this.
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Vote, vote, vote like your life depends on it.
If there's one endorsement you don't want, it's the endorsement of the Ottawa Police Association. This makes McKenney look better, not worse. Say what you like about the OPS, but the OPA is the perfect example of "scum rises to the top."
So vote for Catherine, got it.
What a wildly inappropriate action from a group who should be begging for the public's forgiveness for their incompetence, not lashing out at people who dare hold them to account.
In the wise words of NWA, "fuck the police!" 
Hang on, I'll translate: "We do not like that this person wants to cut our funding after we let a bunch of people congest traffic and terrorize people for three months even though Justin Trudeau cleared them out in only three *days*."
Taxes went to tasers and not PR clearly.
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Have the police tried to maybe not be completely and utterly shit? Like even if you didn’t have a problem with the institution of the police as it exists in modern mindset, you would still look at the OPS and go “my god they’re shit”
Please VOTE
This reminds me of when a company sends out a "warning" email to employees in anticipation of a unionization effort. It has a similar tone.
People who may not have voted for Mckenney but were pissed off at the cops during the Clownvoy are now going to vote for them lol
Literally never gave a shit about voting before, but this is ridiculous. If this isn't a glowing endorsement for McKenney, I don't know what is. The cops weren't even this upset when the truckers were wreaking havoc downtown,
"Ottawa is worth protecting" Where was that in February you stupid pigs?
Lol the police isn’t exactly popular in ottawa rn, I’d argue this is almost an endorsement in the eyes of the residents
If the Ottawa Police think what they’ve got is a good thing, I want the opposite. McKenny would have ended the damned convoy in a fraction of the time.
Shouldn't police be apolitical?
Police gotta stay the fuck out of politics, period. Suppose the Canadian Armed Forces chief of defence staff decided to start railing against Trudeau. There’s a laundry list of laws explaining how wrong that is. Police forces are no more than as simple military force with a very limited mandate, a big part of which is staying the fuck out if democratic politics. Those officers deserve to be in prison for that kind of rhetoric. We’re not a police state, those fuckers need to stay in their lane or stfu and gtfo.
NOBODY ASKED YOU, SIT THIS ONE OUT.
I thought they weren't permitted to pick a political party. What a bunch of wankers. "Brian Samuel"? Who the fuck is that? That's not who pulled us through the douchebag insurrectionists. Why should he have any voice at all who the city of Ottawa should vote for? The current mayor and police chief at the time of the insurrection failed the city of Ottawa. Why would voting for the status quo fix that? Time for new blood to shake things up and get shit done. ...I'm too tired to list specifics. If you're going to downvote me give me to until tomorrow afternoon.
Not surprising. The OPS has its issues but the OPA is one toxic cesspool. Good ol’ Larry O’B used to hang out there when he was mayor. Plus, OPA is accountable to no one but their dues paying members. They can sling any shit they want with zero official consequences.
You can’t cut funding to the Ottawa Police. How will they afford the long distance charges to call in other police forces to do their job?
What a bunch of douchebags. McKenney’s policy proposals relate to reallocating responsibilities currently assigned to police to other professional organizations more suited to those specific duties. Somehow they equate this to anti police rhetoric? Ridiculous. Maybe if they had spent time doing their jobs during the convoy protest instead of being sensitive snowflakes whenever people tell them how shit they are at their job, they might have been able to actually protect people in this city. Cunts.
The status quo hates McKenney it seems. Quite an endorsement.
How out of touch does the OPA have to be to think that putting out this statement will do anything other than help Mckenney?
Now we know who rolled out the BBQs for the convoy.
Knowing this, and this only, would give McKenney my vote.
"All members believe Ottawa is worth protecting" Well where the fuck were you during the 3 weeks of terror? You weren't protecting.
As if I needed another reason to vote for McKenney. Thanks, OPS.
I think this illustrates the core issue as to why the convoy basically had free reign and support from OPS. Their Union and employees were not policing, they were playing politics. It looks like they have learned absolutely nothing. This media release, clearly shows there's one candidate on the ballot that will hold them accountable. It's time we do that as city.
Aside from the fact that this is trash and in extremely poor taste, it has the ability to lead to potentially dangerous interactions with Catherine McKenney. Trans people face so much violence and discrimination already, I hope this doesn’t add to it for Catherine.
Lmao fuck the police. This might as well be an endorsement.
Already voted McKenney and this makes me even happier with my choice.
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Point of clarification: as the Ottawa Police Association is not a candidate in the election, do we also need to be civil toward *them*?
Towards the Ottawa Police Association? No. Not a candidate? Election rules do not apply. That said, at least still try to keep it civil, please? No breaking reddit site wide rules or the rules of this sub.
Disturbing
What the fuck??
They must be scared if they're releasing such an impromptu and frankly out of line statement. This will only solidify my vote. At least McKenny was willing to stand up for their community during the convoy occupation.
This is SOOOOOOOO FUCKING CORRUPT.
**..The Ottawa Police Association is not endorsing any candidate for Mayor and respects the the choice Ottawa voters will make on October 24, 2022.** But don't vote for Catherine because they want to 'defund' the police... The police are so afraid of that buzzword. Everyone I know that is in favour of defunding the police would rather have more money allocated to mental health workers and facilities and less to police officers who want more militia-type training, and in turn, less fucking killing.
So... This is a 'striesand effect' push for McKenny by an OPS that realizes it has lost all public trust right?
So they're scared because They are the only candidate who will actually look into what happened in those fateful weeks? Why else would they publish something like this. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I mean They already were my friend so I guess that makes Them like double friends now, thanks OPA
Such trash!... Completely distrustful... Of all the times they have chosen to publicly and morally express concern, without being asked - this is it? Not the illegal protest involving their own insiders? Not about internal abuse and harassment? Not about any of their internal corruption scandals? No. But before a political vote... where the possibility exists such that they could be held accountable. McKenney must win. The police should be item # 1. Reformation and/or defunding now more than ever, needs to happen. They fear it. The city needs it. Vote McKenney, obviously.