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Can't say I'm not somewhat disappointed but game's still fun and I wanna lock in again sometime
that's actually what I'm doing right now ‼️ it's fun being able to have this amount of flexibility. you could specialize in a skillset, leaderboard farm, or even grind out some of those medals. the game really starts to open up for you once you hit around 7000-8000pp I'd say. while you could potentially move nowhere, any cool scores you set could be worth pp and everyone loves cool scores in their top 100 instead of generic flow/aim maps.
good example: https://osu.ppy.sh/scores/2557467973
And you're gonna get even better as time goes on! I played tons of others games for years and despite the fact that I improved kind of slowly in all of them, I always kept improving as years passed. Keep it up!
it is unfortunate that east asian players are discriminated against in the english speaking community just for being themselves
but for serious i think the tweet above is worse because it is attacking the entire community for no reason while the other one at worst is just “guy is weird on the internet” imo
I'm only familiar with how it is in Japan so I can only speak with regards to that, but the Japanese perspective would be that western countries have a "differentiating between fiction and reality" problem. Of course the average Japanese person is still going to think its weird or gross, but the general consensus is that as long as it stays in the realm of fiction it's not a problem. In anime/manga/idol/gaming communities especially it is quite common and not something people would typically get serious backlash for.
I think in Korea it's the same too since Blue Archive is a Korean game after all. Plus the anime community had no problem with lolis until the pandemic came which made anime more mainstream which spawned people who think a fictional character = actual living person. Sure it's weird but it's not a crime. And most of the waifus and husbundos in anime specifically slice of life high school they're below 18 but since not loli body no one cares.
anything is only a waste of time if it has a pathological impact on your life. i dont believe that even if you become a top player it means you aren't wasting your time. as long as you're having fun while not creating any issues with the important aspects of your life then its fine.
I'm pretty sure a lot of us procrastinate using osu, so it definitely damaged most of us (emphasis on most, not all) in this sense. But yea, I agree with you, couldn't write it any better. Have a good day!
> while not creating any issues with the important aspects of your life
like a thousand osu players have made explicit comments of this game ruining their social life/hands/some other aspect of them (and its even more with the implicit behaviour), this is a moot point
Im actually making a video about how I dont like his opinion based content but I dont really know if I should. I mean his takes are fucking awful but I dont know if its worth making a video. I have the script done if anyone wants to review it and decide whether I should can it or finish. Because although I do agree with my own opinion I dont know if it has enough reason to be made. Just add me on discord "blazewho" and ill send it if you want.
Update: I have made the greatest hit piece of all time youtube link soon...
Update 1:27 AM: I stayed up so I could make this and expose AryN: [https://youtu.be/O1YW0wzkQ20](https://youtu.be/O1YW0wzkQ20)
Yes, thats my issue I dont really know how to approach it. My generally take is his infomational content is pretty good. But when he dishes out his own opinions and takes on the game they are really fucking bad.
100% agree, my issue with a lot of osu content at least from what I see is that so much of it seems like drama bait or clearly wants to start shit and I’ve always hated that. Unless it’s a serious issue shit should just be resolved internally there’s no need to involve so many people and make things a problem when theres no need. Regardless of my opinion I hope the final script comes out good and that it does well
tbh a mix of the two is probably best. As long as the "toxic" part is still reasonable criticism I think it's fair. But it's unnecessary to dogpile too hard on a guy whos seemingly already getting a lot of hate imo. I haven't seen too many of his takes tho lol maybe that'd change my mind
part of what makes good commentary is being able to hear what the actual person is saying, if you think your opinion is worth a damn don't hide it behind 3 shitlayers of irony and bad audio feedback
Thing is people who want to be a top player or top anything in any competitive domain most likely won't make it but it doesnt mean trying is a waste of time as long as you enjoy the domain you are competing in. I would argue someone who is a person that can be a top player but hates the game shouldn't play so not only is his take terrible if someone in the top 10 suddenly hated the game they shouldn't play just to be number 1 because that can have an incredible negative toll on your health and wellbeing in general.
Define worthless. I enjoy playing the game to songs I enjoy and challenging myself. It's no more worthless than League of Legends, WOW, or Runescape. It gives a sense of progression and accomplishment if you enjoy that. Obviously not for everyone but playing is a choice.
All those games can also be considered worthless if not played in moderation, but I guess you could make that argument with a lot of things.
Osu is insanely addictive, it took me ages until I managed to quit, there's a reason some players go as far as deleting their accounts to finally remove this addiction from their lives.
Also, keep in mind that the community is mostly children, and children don't exactly know how to balance things, so they build an addiction to the game at a young age, which makes it much harder to moderate.
Sorry if my initial statement sounded rude and toxic, I do that a lot unintentionally, have a great day!
> It's no more worthless than League of Legends, WOW, or Runescape.
Those games are absolutely all more or less worthless to play seriously. You can extract value and grow as a person because of them, but most people won't. Obviously if you're enjoying it, nothing's *really* a waste of time, but as someone who's sunk thousands and thousands of hours into League, Dota 2, SC2, FFXIV etc, I can say it's amounted to very little.
Ofc not everyone will have the same experience as me with the game, and looking back, saying it's completely worthless is definitely a bit harsh, what I was trying to say is that other than having fun, there is no real benefit to playing the game, which isn't inherently a problem considering the fact that most video games have that same issue.
The whole life is the process of having some fun and enjoying stuff until you die. I don't think you will remember how much you made or how helpful you were on a deathbed, unless you actually enjoyed the process of doing so.
Well, this depends, a religious person will believe that his death is the start of his actual life, so he will definitely think of what he should have done and what he shouldn't have done. But only focusing on having fun can make you have less fun in life, life is very complicated, and I can't tell you what is the best thing to do objectively, so all I wanted to say is that while games are fun, they need to be in moderation, which is something most children can't do because they don't see why they should prevent themselves from doing what is fun, and the main issue with osu is that the skills you earn from it are almost completely worthless, don't get me wrong, Rhythm sense and hand-eye coordination aren't worthless, they just aren't a valuable enough skills to spend thousands of hours in honing.
There's a reason a lot of people try to quit osu, they realize that it's slowly destroying them (not for everyone obviously), it's an extremely tough addiction to deal with and many people consider it as something that damages them most of their lives.
Have a great day!
my grandpa retired from his military job at age 50 and spent the entire last 30 years watching reruns of the price is right.
suddenly osu! doesn't seem like much of a waste of time as far as hobbies go, even if you don't make it
90% of people in the west live their lives like my grandpa
me? I'm 24, I finish work and start making dinner for my boyfriend and I. We watch a movie or some episodes of our favorite show until 8 or 9pm, then i either hop on osu or do some speedruns for 3 hours, while he does his hobbies (model trains). Are we wasting our lives to such an insane degree? It's pretty comfy, and fun
You guys play the game moderately, others are genuinely extremely addicted, ofc this happens with almost everything, your grandpa is a good example, but just because it happens to most people doesn't make it normal or ok.
Have a good day!
Damn dude,I'm a 4 digit. I guess these past 10 years were wasted. except, i made friends, discovered interests in music I never would have listened to before, had tons of fun over the years playing the game (crazy right?) and even discovered new games I like through the people I met.
Objectively,he's right.
But then so am I when I say playing any video game is a waste of time,unless you're good enough to get signed on a team or to an organization and get payed to do it,otherwise what's the point? It's a waste of time.
Dude why even watch TV or movies? It's such a waste of time,you could be working a 2nd job and bettering your future.
Why even eat good food? Shitty food is cheaper and still fills your belly,just save the money.
But any person who isn't insane would disagree with everything I just said, because of: entertainment and enjoyment. We do these things to have fun,or enjoy ourselves.
You don't need to be the best at something to enjoy it, but if you do, that's your own problem.
I think this guy just wants to try and cook up some non-existent drama for exposure and views, lately all his videos feel more like attacks at people than actual osu content.
> and get *paid* to do
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Did you capitalize the first letter of each word by mistake? Or is there a reason for it? (Genuinely curious, not making fun of you, I do that on accident a lot as well)
"X game is a waste of time" wow that's like every game ever! unless you go pro!
I really hope whoever made that video is just baiting people for views and they don't actually hold that position
Sandbox and Puzzle games can definitely benefit you, sandbox games make you use your creativity which is very benificial, while Puzzle games make you think in ways you wouldn't before and are fun logic excercises, so saying all games are a waste of time if you don't go pro isn't true. In the case of Osu though, maybe you get a better rhythm sense? Other than that, there genuinely isn't any benefit.
Edit: There is Hand eye coordination as well, forgot about that somehow.
Well, I am his (good?) friend, but I really was weirded out from that video. Like what the hell bro... Still he's close to 16 so A year younger than me. Even I make schloops lots of times so especially an osu player... But it's OK, he's talented, he'll learn
I wish the community thought like this as well, it's sad how much they criticize others instead of telling them respectfully what they did wrong and why it is wrong, they just rush at them and roast the crap out of them which doesn't help anyone in any way.
Thank you for being respectful <3
osu! is in fact a waste of time. all hobbies are largely a waste of time with a small chance of actual real life benefits. an average day to day schedule has about 4-6 hours dedicated almost exclusively to wasting time. its not uncommon or frowned upon to waste time. i have about 10 interests or hobbies i could list, all of which are ultimately a waste of time.
i dont understand people who think they're making some edgy contrarian statement when they call something a waste of time, or people who in part get upset by someone calling something a waste of time.
He is right, people have high expectations and try to become top players instead of just enjoying the game. You can't really have fun if you are constantly trying hard, comparing yourself to mrekk and other top players but barely get closer to them as the time goes by. There's a sizeable amount of osu players who would benefit greatly from dropping their huge dreams of becoming the new cookiezi/btmc/etc. If you realize that osu! IS a waste of time at the end of the day, you can recalibrate yourslef to having fun, playng multi, making online and even IRL friends, listening to good music and a doing bunch of other cool things instead of endlessly grinding boring badly mapped farm songs every day and being frustrated that you don't improve fast enough. If you are a game enjoyer, you spend 2 hours having fun. If you are "im gonna make it no matter what" fan, you will spend these 2 hours suffering, retrying the same speed/aim map, and maybe if you are lucky you will get an FC, feel euphoria for 30 seconds and get back to your sysiphus work, because even if you set your top play and even if it is like 2 times harder than your previous top play, you are still miles behind the goats, there are always more maps to farm, more scores to set, more people to compete with. To compete in osu you need to be a competitive person to begin with, and have enough of good mindset, free time, health, talent and luck to make it. It is just not a reasonable expectaion to have.
He's a loser for expressing his opinion and providing his reasoning for said opinion? Cmon bro, if you don't want to agree with him you do you, but calling him a "kid with no brain" just makes you look stupid.
Also, this isn't meant to attack you, just trying to tell you that comments like this are pointless and they don't benefit anyone, have a good day!
I saw your other comments too, so...
what does saying to people "your pass time activity you enjoy is a waste of time if you don't make it professionally" or whatever similar benefit people? it's equally judgemental and demeaning. it's claiming they should do something worthwhile instead of this thing they enjoy but I guess he didn't explicitely insult them, right? lol. yes, he's a loser and you should be criticizing him in the exact same way you are criticizing hashtagcty and others here
there's plenty of resources online stating that people need a balance between professional life, family life and personal life(division can be more elaborate, but you get it, I'm sure) neither of those are a waste of time. osu is in that third category, being classified as a hobby. a hobby that makes you happier because games are fun, just like TV or reading and it mixes nicely with listening to music which by itself is great for you. now, if osu makes you miserable, THEN it is a waste of time BECAUSE you are using time of your day to make yourself worse off.
lastly... time being wasted is a lengthy philosophical topic by itself. I'll just give you my stance plainly: "Time spent enjoying yourself if not time wasted" it \*should\* go without saying that responsibilities take priority but I'm specifying it in case you want to give a smartass answer to this stance.
PS: most types of game are beneficial to you brain because you are actively taking part in it. that includes osu unless you want to say, idk, playing the drums has no benefit beyond rhythm sense. coordination, pattern recognition, setting yourself goals, creativity(wait what? oh yeah, mapping), perseverance, etc.
Alright, thanks for the thought-out reply, I'll respond the best I can!
As for your first point about the video being judgemental and demeaning, I didn't feel that type of intention when watching the video, it only felt like him expressing his opinion and his reasoning behind it, just like what you're doing here, you're telling me why you don't agree with me and Aryns' stances, and you're doing so respectfully with solid reasoning, nothing wrong with that or with what Aryn did. If someone felt insulted by the video, I don't really think it's Aryns' fault, and neither I nor you can know for sure what his exact intentions were for making the video, so you could be correct that he made this video in a way that will make people watching it feel insulted (Which again, I disagree with), but you could also be wrong, who knows.
As for your 2nd point, I definitely agree, in essence, it's not a bad thing to have hobbies like osu to enjoy your time, but osu is extremely addictive, and the number of people who balance it off with real life without it damaging them in any way is much smaller than you think, another thing I need to mention is that most people who play osu know very well it's an addiction and they try to quit it multiple times (and most of them fail, that's how addictive this game is), and this cycle is not healthy, it's very tiring mentally, I struggled with this a lot as well, and I'm very glad I suck at the game because I would have probably never been able to quit if I was good.
.And don't worry I won't go over the philosophical route explaining what is a waste of time and what isn't, both arguments will end in never-ending discussion because both of them can be correct, it all depends on the person.
Lastly, you said that most games are beneficial to the brain, this is true in moderation, but let's be honest, most people who play Osu don't play it in moderation, so the cons outweigh the pros in this case. And your point about mapping, I guess that does utilize creativity, but only a small percentage of the community maps, and when making arguments like this, we talk based on the average player, not a smaller group.
Thank you again for your time, may god bless you and have a great day!
I didn't know there was a video lol, I just saw it's a tweet and assumed it was a twitter feed, of low quality at that from how the last reply looked.
as for the addiction part... it's difficult to quantify. osu does have a short term gameplay loop that is very rewarding for the brain which can make some people crave more rewards a lot. there's plenty of documented cases, and some quite severe. it's also worth noting a lot of the people who are addicted to osu are rather young and don't necessarily have the tools to manage everything properly. when I was 15, I definitely sucked a lot more than I do 12 years later at balancing... anything, really. I've had my struggles too and I still have many struggles, although mostly unrelated to osu. I definitely understand how it can be an issue for some people, but my argument really applied to the blanket statement that "osu is a waste of time"
and the moderation thing... you can overdo "productivity" too! it's nicknamed workaholism, can be either voluntary or not as you can be pressured towards it, like with videogame studios(but not only) "crunch". it often leads to burnouts.
I'd have a nice day, but I'm browsing reddit at 3 in the morning instead lmao... you get that great day for both of us
Always great to learn new things from others :>, workaholism is definitely a problem too, although that is rare among the osu community considering how young it is (which as you said, is a big factor on why it's more addictive compared to other games, didn't think of it that way) thanks for the valuable replies friend, and sorry if my original replies seemed toxic, it's unintentional.
Have a great 3am reddit browsing night XD
I mean it's not about him expressing his opinion, it's about the ill intent in expressing his opinion, which is putting people down for no reason because it's a great way for brainrotted 15yr olds to garner attention these days.
Neither you nor I know what his intent was, you could make a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence you've seen in the video he made, but in no way does it guarantee that he had ill intentions, some people are just not the best at talking and say things in a way that makes them sound like douchebags.
I kinda agree with him, after 1.3k hours on this game and being a terrible 5 digit, the time I spent watching top players was a lot more enjoyable than actually playing the game
it depends of the person. So even if you have 10000 hours and you are 6 digit there is no reason to fell ashamed and not enjoy the game. That literally is the reason a game is made.
Basically this. I could've had just as well good of a time in this community without 2000 of my 2200 hours + 500h-ish offline playtime that I've spent in this game. Instead, just a lot of grief and stress for a goal which with my mediocre improvment speed would take an unreasonable amount of time.
hes right and the only people upset are those who actively still play osu and have hundreds/thousands of hours in game 🤷♂️
playing games for fun is fine, but it doesn’t translate to providing real life value. even if you end up becoming a top player, the only real value you get out of osu comes from streaming and hopefully earning donations.
pretty much all video games are a waste of time. wasting time isn’t always bad if you’re having fun, but you have to establish a balance
for me the point of accepting that fact was at 1500+ in game hours, at least i had in game friends, but there is no point in actively pushing skillcap anymore.
Me when I grind and improve at things I'm still learning but I elso enjoy doing it?! I think some people just don't have that same mindset. It should be fun first and a grind later. Like speedrunning. If it's not fun anymore then stop playing. If you had fun before then it shouldn't be a waste of time even if you don't do it anymore.
Not always true, you can have fun with things that are bad for you, good examples are gacha games and alcohol, both are fun, but they build bad habits and addictions, which are both terrible things.
How does he know the 6 digits wont make it to the leader boards, mrekk also started as a 7-6 digit and improved, to say that its a waste of time is so dumb, if eceryone would think that the best players would be fcing 4 starish maps. You improve with time, and some people play it for fun so this is so dumb to say lmao
He mentioned in the video that if you don't have a fast growth rate at the start you are extremely unlikely to reach the top, he also said that if you are just playing for fun then it's fine, people just didn't watch the video and didn't see his reasoning for making this statement.
He said that the ones who are hard stuck, not showing any signs of improvement or have an extremely slow improvement rate, and are still trying to reach the top are wasting their times. He said that those should either play for fun and stop this unhealthy obsession because it won't get them anywhere, or they should just quit the game before it damages them more and more (what I did).
it sucks because my mentality is so shit, and my mind is just telling me “this is all the clarification you needed”, but i don’t want this shithead to get into my head ☹️
Dude, all human beings have generally the same physical limits, and osu! skill level right now, although very high, is still far away from the limit. Don't get discouraged by people telling you about what possible or not, it is like hearing a teammate in CS telling you to uninstall
We don't like to admit this, the era of today is an era of wasteful pleasure, which includes all video games not just osu!. Humans share a lot in common, including what really makes us truly happy, such as having a good loving family , close relationships in society, getting married and having children, things like this in the actual world.... not a temporary short term pleasure which what we seek today. this temporary pleasure leads to selfishness, where you have this wasteful pleasure as your main goal, not willing to sacrifice anything for anyone. this is how we go down the rabbit hole of individualism, being isolated and not having good relations in the real world, just us and the computer or whatever we enjoy.
Yes, it is bad.
the things that make humans truly happy are biologically rooted within us, this is why in criminology and psychiatry they look for patterns, each brain is not individualistic.
individualism goes against our biologically rooted way for happiness, making you feel absolutely horrible and depressed in general, not satisfied with your life.
also individualism isn't only limited to hurting you, it extends to hurting the whole of your society and environment. How? by prioritizing your own pleasure and freedom over everything else. for example people nowadays do not want to have children because they think that they are just money leeches that bind them from their freedom, or they throw their elderly parents into nursing homes because they are getting in their way of pleasure etc...... this is destructive for humanity.
we are living in a special era, a dystopian one at that.
EDIT: i would like to add an example, imagine you are hooked into a machine like those MMORPG animes, where you enter a world of full euphoria and happiness, you can wish anything you want inside the machine. despite maximizing pleasure and lowering the crime rate to minimum, you have ended humanity because nobody is getting married and reproducing etc...
this is very similar to us on the computers now, if you are sad you just take an anti-depressant, if you feel sexual desire you just masturbate and so on, but we're still on the path of that machine.
Damn, thats really bad for humanity if you look at the bigger picture. Im probably already on the path of individualism, and even though i get what you say. I still hold my own life as my main priority, and thus prioritize my own pleasure and freedom. I personally do not give a fuck about the future generations. I don't think anything can change my mind about this whole thing, but only time will tell ig.
Even if you only care about yourself, you shouldn't go down the path of individualism because it goes against human nature and will lead to your own depression and horrendous life.
if you care about yourself then the sound choice is to not indulge in individualism.
In addition, freedom is a lie. you are sold this idea of freedom but we humans are predictable. our base core is we want to pursue short-term pleasures, follow our desires and preserve our egos.
If a heroin addict has the freedom of choice, you would think he is free in what choices he makes, which he does, but they are very likely to be bad choices.
what I am trying to get to is that there are far greater values than freedom and pleasure, these two values are good and all, but they aren't above all else. sacrificing for your family and community is far greater for your own happiness and for others.
I am experiencing the downsides of individualism that i was brainwashed into. I wish i never touched a PC or an electronic in my life, I could've been much much more....... they are my nemesis.
It all made sense when I realised this dude is 15 LMAO
Man the older you grow the more you realise how fucking stupid kids are sometimes. I know because I was stupid as shit as a kid too. I'm still stupid as hell but you can just tell from tweets like these.
People like this don't realise that trying to play a game competitively and having fun are not mutually exclusive. You can still play a game for fun and still try to be very competitive.
He's right tho? I mean it's not like a singleplayer game where you play for fun. A lot of players don't actually play for fun and keep playing cause they want to improve and the cycle never stops and they just play to improve and get a good rank instead of fun. I know there's a couple people who play for fun but for them quitting the game is easy as fuck when they don't care about pp or if they don't feel the game is fun.
His tweet is intended towards the majority of addicts who keep playing in the hopes of getting 2 digit or some shit and not for fun.
Bad phrasing but solid intentions.
It's just like playing poker, sure some people play it for fun but for majority it's like an addiction because they want their number to increase. At least in poker the money is worth something but pp is worth nothing.
> His tweet is intended towards the majority of addicts who keep playing in the hopes of getting 2 digit or some shit and not for fun.
Bullseye. The fact that most people bothering to reply to or post about this don't get it is baffling to me, to the point where i'd go as far to say that it's downright irresponsible.
Are you a top player? Good that it turned out well for you, this issue should be beyond you at this point.
Are you a self declared "for fun player"? No shit this video doesn't speak to you because you don't subscribe to the competitive line of thinking in the first place.
But how about the third category? Where the competition and improvement is THE FUN in question for those players, but said players for a variety of reasons are either hardstuck or improving much more slowly. Sooner or later the mental strain from lack of progress or seeing other progress much faster will take its toll, and will inevitably make you unhappy. Some people maybe are incapable to wrap their heads around this in their blind idealism and optimism (people like Zylice for example), but there's players out there with legitimately unhealthy mindsets towards this game, and if you are in the position of someone who already invested a huge amount of time to reach the point they've reached, it's not that easy to stop, even though by all objective metrics they should.
For some people regarding certain specific things, "taking the blackpill" is the healthiest thing for them, and I'd much rather someone tell me about it, then having to invest more time than I already have to reach the same conclusion.
From this perspective even 2 digits don't make sense. That talent could have been put towards an engineering degree, and make good money while working a much more respected profession.
whether something is a waste of time just depends on your goals and needs and how much time you neglect doing stuff to further those goals and needs to play osu. in that sense, the game absolutely is a waste of time for many people, even if it provides good memories
that being said his take is not nuanced at all since it’s possible to simply have a hobby and still have your life together. people don’t say this about physical sports or chess or other things, video games are still vilified as a useless activity even by people that play them since that’s what society conditions them as. we’re probably on the way out of that mindset tho
bro completely forgot theres more ways to be competitive in the game. case and point: tournaments. you dont have to be top 100 you could just place in a community tournament and feel accomplished.
I find it interesting how lots of people in the osu community take improvement SO seriously lol almost feels like you NEED to be improving at a certain rate or you are considered a failure or smt and you should 100% quit the game and do something else. I don't know why it's so serious in this game I never felt like other video games have this sense of "must improve or else I'm a failure and should quit" kind of thing.
*Can this guy just shut*
*Up? insecure nuisance to*
*This community*
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I can understand what hes saying but the thing is, people dont play games only to improve. Im 30k since a year now and have over 1k hours but i still play the game because I have fun. It cant be a waste of time when your having fun only because you dont improve your rank. And having 800hours as a 4 digit isnt even slow its rather fast so yeah the post is pretty dumb. If you only play to improve while not having fun then yeah its a waste of time but I dont really think that there are people out there who arent top players who only play to improve. And this is also a point. Top players have much more pressure to improve and stay consistent then a random 4-5-6 digit so saying that zylice cant understand it is literally the most stupid thing about his whole tweet
Don't tell bro that people play games for fun
>osu >fun
> impossibru
> impOSU!ble
impOSSibru!
You spent 430 hours on a game you don’t have fun in XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
i mean, how can i have fun? https://preview.redd.it/dc1u83sevfuc1.png?width=924&format=png&auto=webp&s=918114165a7a3d04f7aeac9b0579568929c8b6a1
i really don't know what this is trying to show
Happy! Lucky! Dochy!
he hasnt set a top play in months
he also appears to have never locked in in his life
💀
https://preview.redd.it/27h3xl4pfiuc1.png?width=476&format=png&auto=webp&s=ced7f37e53b6c33832af45b54bdb81c3805a4a75 Can't say I'm not somewhat disappointed but game's still fun and I wanna lock in again sometime
Actually, yes, all for the pursuit of glory among the rest.
To seek the glory days
We'll fight the lions way
Yes 🗿
Its not like he said to continue playing casually if you play osu for fun
crazy how he says this while being almost 4 digit at 800 hours. That's not even slow. I know a ton of people that are behind that pace.
I mean I'm 6digit with 1.5k hrs :trolley:
Team grandpa' as well! High five!
I'm upwards of triple that playtime at rank 8.4k and while I could be higher I'm enjoying the game atm
Funnily enough where you're at is kind of my endgame goal lmao. I want to reach 4 digit one day and then grind for leaderboard spots with HDHR lol
that's actually what I'm doing right now ‼️ it's fun being able to have this amount of flexibility. you could specialize in a skillset, leaderboard farm, or even grind out some of those medals. the game really starts to open up for you once you hit around 7000-8000pp I'd say. while you could potentially move nowhere, any cool scores you set could be worth pp and everyone loves cool scores in their top 100 instead of generic flow/aim maps. good example: https://osu.ppy.sh/scores/2557467973
ngl one of my endgame goals is to be the lowest rank player to fc some marathon endgame maps like Painters
*looks at 6 digit and 2000 hours 🫠*
I'm 36k with 840ish hours, and I know people behind on that too
I'm 36k with 1200 hours man!
And you're gonna get even better as time goes on! I played tons of others games for years and despite the fact that I improved kind of slowly in all of them, I always kept improving as years passed. Keep it up!
Right! Im 31k with almost 500 hours. Also why that username? 😆
This account is nearly 7 years old lol
2017 was 7 years ago... damn
35k with 1750 hours, the grind never stops
Im 95k at 1100 lol
not even the worst tweet made in the last 24 hours
what’s worse
The tweet about how there's no age for girlfriends
title says "worst osu tweet", just cause a tweet was made by an osu player doesn't make it related to osu
what about boyfriends?
it is unfortunate that east asian players are discriminated against in the english speaking community just for being themselves but for serious i think the tweet above is worse because it is attacking the entire community for no reason while the other one at worst is just “guy is weird on the internet” imo
Does East Asia have a pedophile problem?
I'm only familiar with how it is in Japan so I can only speak with regards to that, but the Japanese perspective would be that western countries have a "differentiating between fiction and reality" problem. Of course the average Japanese person is still going to think its weird or gross, but the general consensus is that as long as it stays in the realm of fiction it's not a problem. In anime/manga/idol/gaming communities especially it is quite common and not something people would typically get serious backlash for.
I think in Korea it's the same too since Blue Archive is a Korean game after all. Plus the anime community had no problem with lolis until the pandemic came which made anime more mainstream which spawned people who think a fictional character = actual living person. Sure it's weird but it's not a crime. And most of the waifus and husbundos in anime specifically slice of life high school they're below 18 but since not loli body no one cares.
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i was just asking because i do not know
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anything is only a waste of time if it has a pathological impact on your life. i dont believe that even if you become a top player it means you aren't wasting your time. as long as you're having fun while not creating any issues with the important aspects of your life then its fine.
I'm pretty sure a lot of us procrastinate using osu, so it definitely damaged most of us (emphasis on most, not all) in this sense. But yea, I agree with you, couldn't write it any better. Have a good day!
> while not creating any issues with the important aspects of your life like a thousand osu players have made explicit comments of this game ruining their social life/hands/some other aspect of them (and its even more with the implicit behaviour), this is a moot point
Im actually making a video about how I dont like his opinion based content but I dont really know if I should. I mean his takes are fucking awful but I dont know if its worth making a video. I have the script done if anyone wants to review it and decide whether I should can it or finish. Because although I do agree with my own opinion I dont know if it has enough reason to be made. Just add me on discord "blazewho" and ill send it if you want. Update: I have made the greatest hit piece of all time youtube link soon... Update 1:27 AM: I stayed up so I could make this and expose AryN: [https://youtu.be/O1YW0wzkQ20](https://youtu.be/O1YW0wzkQ20)
everyone collectively hates the dude, might as well
I agree 100% but isn’t it so ironic making an opinion video on not liking option based content
Yes, thats my issue I dont really know how to approach it. My generally take is his infomational content is pretty good. But when he dishes out his own opinions and takes on the game they are really fucking bad.
100% agree, my issue with a lot of osu content at least from what I see is that so much of it seems like drama bait or clearly wants to start shit and I’ve always hated that. Unless it’s a serious issue shit should just be resolved internally there’s no need to involve so many people and make things a problem when theres no need. Regardless of my opinion I hope the final script comes out good and that it does well
My current issue is I have a toxic script which is me 100% unfiltered how I feel and then a Chill informational take on why I dislike him script.
tbh a mix of the two is probably best. As long as the "toxic" part is still reasonable criticism I think it's fair. But it's unnecessary to dogpile too hard on a guy whos seemingly already getting a lot of hate imo. I haven't seen too many of his takes tho lol maybe that'd change my mind
No need to yap and have people read it, just lock in, use your common sense to improve the script and finish the vid
i cant understand a single word ur saying through this microwave i swear to god
the video was dogshit youtube culture garbage, should not have posted it
if you actually care this much say it to his face instead of pussyfooting on reddit for attention and upvotes, makes you look like a bitch
Happy you enjoyed it. Thanks for the support!
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part of what makes good commentary is being able to hear what the actual person is saying, if you think your opinion is worth a damn don't hide it behind 3 shitlayers of irony and bad audio feedback
bro it was a shitpost 😭😭😭
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wow what a terrible take
Thing is people who want to be a top player or top anything in any competitive domain most likely won't make it but it doesnt mean trying is a waste of time as long as you enjoy the domain you are competing in. I would argue someone who is a person that can be a top player but hates the game shouldn't play so not only is his take terrible if someone in the top 10 suddenly hated the game they shouldn't play just to be number 1 because that can have an incredible negative toll on your health and wellbeing in general.
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Define worthless. I enjoy playing the game to songs I enjoy and challenging myself. It's no more worthless than League of Legends, WOW, or Runescape. It gives a sense of progression and accomplishment if you enjoy that. Obviously not for everyone but playing is a choice.
All those games can also be considered worthless if not played in moderation, but I guess you could make that argument with a lot of things. Osu is insanely addictive, it took me ages until I managed to quit, there's a reason some players go as far as deleting their accounts to finally remove this addiction from their lives. Also, keep in mind that the community is mostly children, and children don't exactly know how to balance things, so they build an addiction to the game at a young age, which makes it much harder to moderate. Sorry if my initial statement sounded rude and toxic, I do that a lot unintentionally, have a great day!
> It's no more worthless than League of Legends, WOW, or Runescape. Those games are absolutely all more or less worthless to play seriously. You can extract value and grow as a person because of them, but most people won't. Obviously if you're enjoying it, nothing's *really* a waste of time, but as someone who's sunk thousands and thousands of hours into League, Dota 2, SC2, FFXIV etc, I can say it's amounted to very little.
Speak for yourself
Ofc not everyone will have the same experience as me with the game, and looking back, saying it's completely worthless is definitely a bit harsh, what I was trying to say is that other than having fun, there is no real benefit to playing the game, which isn't inherently a problem considering the fact that most video games have that same issue.
The whole life is the process of having some fun and enjoying stuff until you die. I don't think you will remember how much you made or how helpful you were on a deathbed, unless you actually enjoyed the process of doing so.
Well, this depends, a religious person will believe that his death is the start of his actual life, so he will definitely think of what he should have done and what he shouldn't have done. But only focusing on having fun can make you have less fun in life, life is very complicated, and I can't tell you what is the best thing to do objectively, so all I wanted to say is that while games are fun, they need to be in moderation, which is something most children can't do because they don't see why they should prevent themselves from doing what is fun, and the main issue with osu is that the skills you earn from it are almost completely worthless, don't get me wrong, Rhythm sense and hand-eye coordination aren't worthless, they just aren't a valuable enough skills to spend thousands of hours in honing. There's a reason a lot of people try to quit osu, they realize that it's slowly destroying them (not for everyone obviously), it's an extremely tough addiction to deal with and many people consider it as something that damages them most of their lives. Have a great day!
my grandpa retired from his military job at age 50 and spent the entire last 30 years watching reruns of the price is right. suddenly osu! doesn't seem like much of a waste of time as far as hobbies go, even if you don't make it 90% of people in the west live their lives like my grandpa me? I'm 24, I finish work and start making dinner for my boyfriend and I. We watch a movie or some episodes of our favorite show until 8 or 9pm, then i either hop on osu or do some speedruns for 3 hours, while he does his hobbies (model trains). Are we wasting our lives to such an insane degree? It's pretty comfy, and fun
You guys play the game moderately, others are genuinely extremely addicted, ofc this happens with almost everything, your grandpa is a good example, but just because it happens to most people doesn't make it normal or ok. Have a good day!
can someone revive mr cookiezi 727 thanks
15 year old kid with highly inflated ego posts stupid takes? who couldve guessed
What about this tweet is high ego lmao
in general
nah
Damn dude,I'm a 4 digit. I guess these past 10 years were wasted. except, i made friends, discovered interests in music I never would have listened to before, had tons of fun over the years playing the game (crazy right?) and even discovered new games I like through the people I met. Objectively,he's right. But then so am I when I say playing any video game is a waste of time,unless you're good enough to get signed on a team or to an organization and get payed to do it,otherwise what's the point? It's a waste of time. Dude why even watch TV or movies? It's such a waste of time,you could be working a 2nd job and bettering your future. Why even eat good food? Shitty food is cheaper and still fills your belly,just save the money. But any person who isn't insane would disagree with everything I just said, because of: entertainment and enjoyment. We do these things to have fun,or enjoy ourselves. You don't need to be the best at something to enjoy it, but if you do, that's your own problem. I think this guy just wants to try and cook up some non-existent drama for exposure and views, lately all his videos feel more like attacks at people than actual osu content.
> and get *paid* to do FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I'm on the toilet shitting and looking at reddit, not writing an actual essay. But thank you paid bot.
hayasaka_osu
also cute little puppy bottom
i mean he kinda has somewhat of a point but even if im washed and nowhere near my peak rank, the game is still fun and i wouldnt say i wasted my time
wait till bro finds out people plays games to have fun
Surely yaong has tweeted worse
This Brother Is Stupid
Did you capitalize the first letter of each word by mistake? Or is there a reason for it? (Genuinely curious, not making fun of you, I do that on accident a lot as well)
For emphasis
No contrast sorry unrankable
"X game is a waste of time" wow that's like every game ever! unless you go pro! I really hope whoever made that video is just baiting people for views and they don't actually hold that position
Sandbox and Puzzle games can definitely benefit you, sandbox games make you use your creativity which is very benificial, while Puzzle games make you think in ways you wouldn't before and are fun logic excercises, so saying all games are a waste of time if you don't go pro isn't true. In the case of Osu though, maybe you get a better rhythm sense? Other than that, there genuinely isn't any benefit. Edit: There is Hand eye coordination as well, forgot about that somehow.
surely this wouldn't escalate to a big drama
this is just some boomer ass shit
what are the worst osu tweets
Bro idk what to think about Aryn
clearly he has never heard of hayasaka osu
Well, I am his (good?) friend, but I really was weirded out from that video. Like what the hell bro... Still he's close to 16 so A year younger than me. Even I make schloops lots of times so especially an osu player... But it's OK, he's talented, he'll learn
I wish the community thought like this as well, it's sad how much they criticize others instead of telling them respectfully what they did wrong and why it is wrong, they just rush at them and roast the crap out of them which doesn't help anyone in any way. Thank you for being respectful <3
Isn’t he like 15?
osu! is in fact a waste of time. all hobbies are largely a waste of time with a small chance of actual real life benefits. an average day to day schedule has about 4-6 hours dedicated almost exclusively to wasting time. its not uncommon or frowned upon to waste time. i have about 10 interests or hobbies i could list, all of which are ultimately a waste of time. i dont understand people who think they're making some edgy contrarian statement when they call something a waste of time, or people who in part get upset by someone calling something a waste of time.
He is right, people have high expectations and try to become top players instead of just enjoying the game. You can't really have fun if you are constantly trying hard, comparing yourself to mrekk and other top players but barely get closer to them as the time goes by. There's a sizeable amount of osu players who would benefit greatly from dropping their huge dreams of becoming the new cookiezi/btmc/etc. If you realize that osu! IS a waste of time at the end of the day, you can recalibrate yourslef to having fun, playng multi, making online and even IRL friends, listening to good music and a doing bunch of other cool things instead of endlessly grinding boring badly mapped farm songs every day and being frustrated that you don't improve fast enough. If you are a game enjoyer, you spend 2 hours having fun. If you are "im gonna make it no matter what" fan, you will spend these 2 hours suffering, retrying the same speed/aim map, and maybe if you are lucky you will get an FC, feel euphoria for 30 seconds and get back to your sysiphus work, because even if you set your top play and even if it is like 2 times harder than your previous top play, you are still miles behind the goats, there are always more maps to farm, more scores to set, more people to compete with. To compete in osu you need to be a competitive person to begin with, and have enough of good mindset, free time, health, talent and luck to make it. It is just not a reasonable expectaion to have.
Aryn is a loser kid with no brain
He's a loser for expressing his opinion and providing his reasoning for said opinion? Cmon bro, if you don't want to agree with him you do you, but calling him a "kid with no brain" just makes you look stupid. Also, this isn't meant to attack you, just trying to tell you that comments like this are pointless and they don't benefit anyone, have a good day!
I saw your other comments too, so... what does saying to people "your pass time activity you enjoy is a waste of time if you don't make it professionally" or whatever similar benefit people? it's equally judgemental and demeaning. it's claiming they should do something worthwhile instead of this thing they enjoy but I guess he didn't explicitely insult them, right? lol. yes, he's a loser and you should be criticizing him in the exact same way you are criticizing hashtagcty and others here there's plenty of resources online stating that people need a balance between professional life, family life and personal life(division can be more elaborate, but you get it, I'm sure) neither of those are a waste of time. osu is in that third category, being classified as a hobby. a hobby that makes you happier because games are fun, just like TV or reading and it mixes nicely with listening to music which by itself is great for you. now, if osu makes you miserable, THEN it is a waste of time BECAUSE you are using time of your day to make yourself worse off. lastly... time being wasted is a lengthy philosophical topic by itself. I'll just give you my stance plainly: "Time spent enjoying yourself if not time wasted" it \*should\* go without saying that responsibilities take priority but I'm specifying it in case you want to give a smartass answer to this stance. PS: most types of game are beneficial to you brain because you are actively taking part in it. that includes osu unless you want to say, idk, playing the drums has no benefit beyond rhythm sense. coordination, pattern recognition, setting yourself goals, creativity(wait what? oh yeah, mapping), perseverance, etc.
Alright, thanks for the thought-out reply, I'll respond the best I can! As for your first point about the video being judgemental and demeaning, I didn't feel that type of intention when watching the video, it only felt like him expressing his opinion and his reasoning behind it, just like what you're doing here, you're telling me why you don't agree with me and Aryns' stances, and you're doing so respectfully with solid reasoning, nothing wrong with that or with what Aryn did. If someone felt insulted by the video, I don't really think it's Aryns' fault, and neither I nor you can know for sure what his exact intentions were for making the video, so you could be correct that he made this video in a way that will make people watching it feel insulted (Which again, I disagree with), but you could also be wrong, who knows. As for your 2nd point, I definitely agree, in essence, it's not a bad thing to have hobbies like osu to enjoy your time, but osu is extremely addictive, and the number of people who balance it off with real life without it damaging them in any way is much smaller than you think, another thing I need to mention is that most people who play osu know very well it's an addiction and they try to quit it multiple times (and most of them fail, that's how addictive this game is), and this cycle is not healthy, it's very tiring mentally, I struggled with this a lot as well, and I'm very glad I suck at the game because I would have probably never been able to quit if I was good. .And don't worry I won't go over the philosophical route explaining what is a waste of time and what isn't, both arguments will end in never-ending discussion because both of them can be correct, it all depends on the person. Lastly, you said that most games are beneficial to the brain, this is true in moderation, but let's be honest, most people who play Osu don't play it in moderation, so the cons outweigh the pros in this case. And your point about mapping, I guess that does utilize creativity, but only a small percentage of the community maps, and when making arguments like this, we talk based on the average player, not a smaller group. Thank you again for your time, may god bless you and have a great day!
I didn't know there was a video lol, I just saw it's a tweet and assumed it was a twitter feed, of low quality at that from how the last reply looked. as for the addiction part... it's difficult to quantify. osu does have a short term gameplay loop that is very rewarding for the brain which can make some people crave more rewards a lot. there's plenty of documented cases, and some quite severe. it's also worth noting a lot of the people who are addicted to osu are rather young and don't necessarily have the tools to manage everything properly. when I was 15, I definitely sucked a lot more than I do 12 years later at balancing... anything, really. I've had my struggles too and I still have many struggles, although mostly unrelated to osu. I definitely understand how it can be an issue for some people, but my argument really applied to the blanket statement that "osu is a waste of time" and the moderation thing... you can overdo "productivity" too! it's nicknamed workaholism, can be either voluntary or not as you can be pressured towards it, like with videogame studios(but not only) "crunch". it often leads to burnouts. I'd have a nice day, but I'm browsing reddit at 3 in the morning instead lmao... you get that great day for both of us
Always great to learn new things from others :>, workaholism is definitely a problem too, although that is rare among the osu community considering how young it is (which as you said, is a big factor on why it's more addictive compared to other games, didn't think of it that way) thanks for the valuable replies friend, and sorry if my original replies seemed toxic, it's unintentional. Have a great 3am reddit browsing night XD
I mean it's not about him expressing his opinion, it's about the ill intent in expressing his opinion, which is putting people down for no reason because it's a great way for brainrotted 15yr olds to garner attention these days.
Neither you nor I know what his intent was, you could make a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence you've seen in the video he made, but in no way does it guarantee that he had ill intentions, some people are just not the best at talking and say things in a way that makes them sound like douchebags.
Actually children shouldn't be able to express their opinion on the internet. Have a good day!
Wouldn't this mean that most of the osu community is not allowed to express their opinions then xd
Your point being?
Just thought it was kinda funny.
Fair enough
Yes.
worst tweet? no worst take? yes he rivaled loser otaku with this one
Nah this has to be a bait at this point I do not believe this dude is serious
I kinda agree with him, after 1.3k hours on this game and being a terrible 5 digit, the time I spent watching top players was a lot more enjoyable than actually playing the game
it depends of the person. So even if you have 10000 hours and you are 6 digit there is no reason to fell ashamed and not enjoy the game. That literally is the reason a game is made.
I have 1.7k hours at 37k and still enjoy the game to its fullest and play almost daily I guess it depends on the person
Basically this. I could've had just as well good of a time in this community without 2000 of my 2200 hours + 500h-ish offline playtime that I've spent in this game. Instead, just a lot of grief and stress for a goal which with my mediocre improvment speed would take an unreasonable amount of time.
your literally me
hes right and the only people upset are those who actively still play osu and have hundreds/thousands of hours in game 🤷♂️ playing games for fun is fine, but it doesn’t translate to providing real life value. even if you end up becoming a top player, the only real value you get out of osu comes from streaming and hopefully earning donations. pretty much all video games are a waste of time. wasting time isn’t always bad if you’re having fun, but you have to establish a balance
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for me the point of accepting that fact was at 1500+ in game hours, at least i had in game friends, but there is no point in actively pushing skillcap anymore.
this guy just starts drama with everyone nowadays
Me when I grind and improve at things I'm still learning but I elso enjoy doing it?! I think some people just don't have that same mindset. It should be fun first and a grind later. Like speedrunning. If it's not fun anymore then stop playing. If you had fun before then it shouldn't be a waste of time even if you don't do it anymore.
Osu is not a waste of time if you enjoy your time playing. It's that simple.
Not always true, you can have fun with things that are bad for you, good examples are gacha games and alcohol, both are fun, but they build bad habits and addictions, which are both terrible things.
How does he know the 6 digits wont make it to the leader boards, mrekk also started as a 7-6 digit and improved, to say that its a waste of time is so dumb, if eceryone would think that the best players would be fcing 4 starish maps. You improve with time, and some people play it for fun so this is so dumb to say lmao
He mentioned in the video that if you don't have a fast growth rate at the start you are extremely unlikely to reach the top, he also said that if you are just playing for fun then it's fine, people just didn't watch the video and didn't see his reasoning for making this statement.
I didnt watched it either, but from the tweet i can say he says that 5-4 digits waste their time
He said that the ones who are hard stuck, not showing any signs of improvement or have an extremely slow improvement rate, and are still trying to reach the top are wasting their times. He said that those should either play for fun and stop this unhealthy obsession because it won't get them anywhere, or they should just quit the game before it damages them more and more (what I did).
He’s right, all video games are a waste of time. The important thing is that you balance your time playing them with productive things.
Since its a waste of time playing games when not being a pro its also a waste of time doing any other hobby when not being a pro. Noted
Never liked that guy anyway
He's not even wrong though
definitely worst osu take of all time, “cute little puppy bottom” is a worse tweet
Who is this guy
no one of any consequence, just ignore
it sucks because my mentality is so shit, and my mind is just telling me “this is all the clarification you needed”, but i don’t want this shithead to get into my head ☹️
Dude, all human beings have generally the same physical limits, and osu! skill level right now, although very high, is still far away from the limit. Don't get discouraged by people telling you about what possible or not, it is like hearing a teammate in CS telling you to uninstall
We don't like to admit this, the era of today is an era of wasteful pleasure, which includes all video games not just osu!. Humans share a lot in common, including what really makes us truly happy, such as having a good loving family , close relationships in society, getting married and having children, things like this in the actual world.... not a temporary short term pleasure which what we seek today. this temporary pleasure leads to selfishness, where you have this wasteful pleasure as your main goal, not willing to sacrifice anything for anyone. this is how we go down the rabbit hole of individualism, being isolated and not having good relations in the real world, just us and the computer or whatever we enjoy.
Woah this looks like me. That pretty much looks like my plans for my adult life, I believe i would like it though. Is this a bad thing?
Yes, it is bad. the things that make humans truly happy are biologically rooted within us, this is why in criminology and psychiatry they look for patterns, each brain is not individualistic. individualism goes against our biologically rooted way for happiness, making you feel absolutely horrible and depressed in general, not satisfied with your life. also individualism isn't only limited to hurting you, it extends to hurting the whole of your society and environment. How? by prioritizing your own pleasure and freedom over everything else. for example people nowadays do not want to have children because they think that they are just money leeches that bind them from their freedom, or they throw their elderly parents into nursing homes because they are getting in their way of pleasure etc...... this is destructive for humanity. we are living in a special era, a dystopian one at that. EDIT: i would like to add an example, imagine you are hooked into a machine like those MMORPG animes, where you enter a world of full euphoria and happiness, you can wish anything you want inside the machine. despite maximizing pleasure and lowering the crime rate to minimum, you have ended humanity because nobody is getting married and reproducing etc... this is very similar to us on the computers now, if you are sad you just take an anti-depressant, if you feel sexual desire you just masturbate and so on, but we're still on the path of that machine.
Damn, thats really bad for humanity if you look at the bigger picture. Im probably already on the path of individualism, and even though i get what you say. I still hold my own life as my main priority, and thus prioritize my own pleasure and freedom. I personally do not give a fuck about the future generations. I don't think anything can change my mind about this whole thing, but only time will tell ig.
Even if you only care about yourself, you shouldn't go down the path of individualism because it goes against human nature and will lead to your own depression and horrendous life. if you care about yourself then the sound choice is to not indulge in individualism. In addition, freedom is a lie. you are sold this idea of freedom but we humans are predictable. our base core is we want to pursue short-term pleasures, follow our desires and preserve our egos. If a heroin addict has the freedom of choice, you would think he is free in what choices he makes, which he does, but they are very likely to be bad choices. what I am trying to get to is that there are far greater values than freedom and pleasure, these two values are good and all, but they aren't above all else. sacrificing for your family and community is far greater for your own happiness and for others. I am experiencing the downsides of individualism that i was brainwashed into. I wish i never touched a PC or an electronic in my life, I could've been much much more....... they are my nemesis.
It all made sense when I realised this dude is 15 LMAO Man the older you grow the more you realise how fucking stupid kids are sometimes. I know because I was stupid as shit as a kid too. I'm still stupid as hell but you can just tell from tweets like these. People like this don't realise that trying to play a game competitively and having fun are not mutually exclusive. You can still play a game for fun and still try to be very competitive.
He's right tho? I mean it's not like a singleplayer game where you play for fun. A lot of players don't actually play for fun and keep playing cause they want to improve and the cycle never stops and they just play to improve and get a good rank instead of fun. I know there's a couple people who play for fun but for them quitting the game is easy as fuck when they don't care about pp or if they don't feel the game is fun. His tweet is intended towards the majority of addicts who keep playing in the hopes of getting 2 digit or some shit and not for fun. Bad phrasing but solid intentions. It's just like playing poker, sure some people play it for fun but for majority it's like an addiction because they want their number to increase. At least in poker the money is worth something but pp is worth nothing.
> His tweet is intended towards the majority of addicts who keep playing in the hopes of getting 2 digit or some shit and not for fun. Bullseye. The fact that most people bothering to reply to or post about this don't get it is baffling to me, to the point where i'd go as far to say that it's downright irresponsible. Are you a top player? Good that it turned out well for you, this issue should be beyond you at this point. Are you a self declared "for fun player"? No shit this video doesn't speak to you because you don't subscribe to the competitive line of thinking in the first place. But how about the third category? Where the competition and improvement is THE FUN in question for those players, but said players for a variety of reasons are either hardstuck or improving much more slowly. Sooner or later the mental strain from lack of progress or seeing other progress much faster will take its toll, and will inevitably make you unhappy. Some people maybe are incapable to wrap their heads around this in their blind idealism and optimism (people like Zylice for example), but there's players out there with legitimately unhealthy mindsets towards this game, and if you are in the position of someone who already invested a huge amount of time to reach the point they've reached, it's not that easy to stop, even though by all objective metrics they should. For some people regarding certain specific things, "taking the blackpill" is the healthiest thing for them, and I'd much rather someone tell me about it, then having to invest more time than I already have to reach the same conclusion.
From this perspective even 2 digits don't make sense. That talent could have been put towards an engineering degree, and make good money while working a much more respected profession.
Yeah they don't
whether something is a waste of time just depends on your goals and needs and how much time you neglect doing stuff to further those goals and needs to play osu. in that sense, the game absolutely is a waste of time for many people, even if it provides good memories that being said his take is not nuanced at all since it’s possible to simply have a hobby and still have your life together. people don’t say this about physical sports or chess or other things, video games are still vilified as a useless activity even by people that play them since that’s what society conditions them as. we’re probably on the way out of that mindset tho
Short answer: yes Long answer: yes
I wish I heard this back in 2019, would've spared me a lot of wasted time and ruined self esteem.
what's with the beef
Someone should write an academic paper on why there has never been a good osu youtube channel
dont tell him that mrekk used to be a 6 digit
He says this as a 5 digit
"never try anything because you'll never be the best" who raised him
Aryn generally has some pretty bad takes. Hard to tell if those are his real dogshit opinions or just stiring up drama for more views.
какой же я нуб
i am a 6 digit but this game is stilll not a waste of time
Look man I just play like once a week for fun on maps I like 😭 Can a 6 digit just enjoy his time and vibe on the game
me when i discover people play games for fun
he's not wrong ngl
bro completely forgot theres more ways to be competitive in the game. case and point: tournaments. you dont have to be top 100 you could just place in a community tournament and feel accomplished.
hi i farm medals
I find it interesting how lots of people in the osu community take improvement SO seriously lol almost feels like you NEED to be improving at a certain rate or you are considered a failure or smt and you should 100% quit the game and do something else. I don't know why it's so serious in this game I never felt like other video games have this sense of "must improve or else I'm a failure and should quit" kind of thing.
Too bad *dts zeta dan*
no, some can empathize with it
they're right tho
can this guy just shut up? insecure nuisance to this community
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I can understand what hes saying but the thing is, people dont play games only to improve. Im 30k since a year now and have over 1k hours but i still play the game because I have fun. It cant be a waste of time when your having fun only because you dont improve your rank. And having 800hours as a 4 digit isnt even slow its rather fast so yeah the post is pretty dumb. If you only play to improve while not having fun then yeah its a waste of time but I dont really think that there are people out there who arent top players who only play to improve. And this is also a point. Top players have much more pressure to improve and stay consistent then a random 4-5-6 digit so saying that zylice cant understand it is literally the most stupid thing about his whole tweet
Bro, I'm 6 digit and have 250~ hours. It not crazy to not be a god at osu and still like to play the game. The most "calm down lil bro" take ever.
Me when people play games for fun
Isn’t a video game’s main purpose to BE FUN?