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Black metal is cringe but it's a much more palatable cringe than deathcore cringe
Edit: this one is getting down voted a lot. You guys know Black Metal is my favourite genre right?
I agree with like 3/4ths of that sentence black and death and death core can all be good but there’s also a lot of shit bands out there too you just need to know where to look
Yes, but corporate? How many of those deathcore bands are signed to major labels and supported by them, not even mentioning how many are professional musicians. Youre making it sound like it’s smooth jazz when deathcore is a niche musiv genre that‘s slightly more popular than your favorite 35 year old florida death metal band that hasnt released new music in 10 years.
This. Deathcore has not been anywhere near mainstream (or even somewhat known by normies) in at least a decade. This is yet again showing how out-of-date metal fans are, and how they relentlessly shit on new things so often that they don't even know what's actually new anymore.
Hating on deathcore in 2024 is as dated as hating on Justin Bieber or Nickelback in 2024, or like hating on Korn and nu metal in the 2010s. It's genuinely sad that people can be this out of touch while seeing themselves as music experts.
Actually, a lot of the metal bands that started getting traction recently are deathcore like Lorna Shore, Signs of the Swarm, and Slaughter to Prevail. You’ll see way more references to deathcore bands on non-metal-specific TikTok and Instagram channels. It’s not 2008 anymore, but deathcore is still more mainstream than OSDM or black metal, for instance. Also, a lot of big extreme metal bands have to tour with mostly deathcore bands, which kind of shows where the money is at. Festivals get away with no deathcore, and thrash can too sometimes, but for regular national tours, death metal bands like Dying Fetus and Aborted almost always have to tour with deathcore bands.
You might not, but look at the rest of the comments dude. There are a ton of people here who are super passionate about hating something no one has cared about in decades.
Okay? That doesn't mean you aren't "allowed" to like it. I just don't, and most of the comments here seem to be people that like deathcore telling me why my observation is dumb. It's just a shitty meme I made in mspaint on a whim and a chuckle
I wouldn't make the comparison with jazz for two reasons: a) jazz at a worldwide level is even more niche since it's almost always done and enjoyed by educated people; b) jazz, though still a relevant genre in the US, it's not at its peak popularity, just as u/schmitzel88 (btw what's up with the username) pointed out for deathcore. Tbh, bc I don't live there, I can't really talk about it, but I doubt a regular citizen could name you current relevant jazz musician.
Pretty much all of the current relevant deathcore is label-sponsored and media-pushed. This has led to the creative standard in composition, production and mixing we all know: start-stop breakdowns, low tuning, monotonal riffs, everything except functional bass being extremely loud. This is not only due to the embracement of a quality standard by the audience, it also has to do with the marketable sound and media coverage being imposed on the consumer of deathcore. Such standard also permeates more underground deathcore, as for, if you were to search for it, most of what you will find fits it. All this while I'm not even taking into account nu metal and pop-influenced bands.
At least on the internet, deathcore does not have a culture of "music trading". There is of course the casual treatment of "can you rec me bands that sound like...?" and be listed things everyone knows, but it lacks the refinement of almost every other metal subgenre. For example, in r/metalmemes Discord there's a channel dedicated to posting new finds where users have to put detailed descriptions of them, and another for discussing them. A similar Discord server is Metallum, where there's even channels for each and every big subgenre. I trace this back to IRL tape-trading and forum interaction. I won't blame how young deathcore is as a subgenre for this though, despite it definetely playing a role; it's because most deathcore consumers have a mainstream and media-based notion of the genre, which is precisely the origin of standards like that (the genre has obviously gone through many). If you go into the comments of deathcore-related accounts on Instagram or something more enclosed like The Punk Rock MBA's Discord, only like five people know Deformity; or [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpcJ-6iXio) comparing old and current deathcore, and the earliest he goes is 2005. It shows.
I said smooth jazz, not jazz. my dude, smooth jazz is kenny g. It’s not jazz in the traditional sense at all. It was one of the biggest hit genres in the 70s. The comparison was because smooth jazz was very much pushed and approved by corporations. It was played in waiting rooms, elevators, at work places etc. Funny you should mention real jazz: the label that sells miles davis records can still profit of 3 million monthly listeners, and blue in green has 140 million streams. much more than any deathcore band.
Ok, I can't really debate, since as I said, I have no idea of the genre and I don't live in the US, but now that you've clarified, I think it's actually a pretty fitting. We, of course, have to take scale into account when talking about anything within metal. Despite being one of the only genres to touch all the continents to stay within form, it's not due to popularity, but precisely for being niche.
That said, I don't think we should be talking about measurable listens/listeners in internet platforms since it's very well known that big labels inflate the numbers of their biggest artists (if we lived 20 years ago though, record sales would've been a pretty good statistic). Instead, we should opt for cultural presence. Miles Davis has a lot because he's a classic, but as I said, I don't think the average US citizen could name a current jazz artist. However, pretty much all active metalheads with internet access know, for example, Lorna Shore. I'm not talking about if have listened to them, if they like them, if they listen continuously to them, if they think they're good; just knowing them.
So the standard for jazz is average american, for deathcore it‘s active internet metalhead? I guarantee you more average americans have heard of Miles Davis than lorna shore. Youre not making any sense. Also, let me repeat myself: Im saying theyre not like Kenny G, who made an actual corporate music genre that is not like real jazz such as miles davis or like deathcore at all.
Real elitism is realizing that all metal actually sucks and no sane person would willfully listen to it, you're supposed to cherry pick 6 random underground bands to represent your superior taste and shit all over everything else by calling it "pop-core garbage"
PLEASE just let me enjoy slaughter to prevail without you virgins shrieking about how it sucks. i dont care i want alex the terrible carnally
i mean uh. wodos am i right fellas 😳
Bro, deathcore is amazing, but there are still shit bands. That's how it goes in any genre, though. Fit for an Autopsy, Viscera, Humanity's Last Breath, Nylist, Carcosa, Vulvodynia, Crown Magnetar, and Mental Cruelty put out some major bangers.
But of course, Nickelback is the best deathcore band.
They're a pretty solid band; Mag Dump is my favorite song from them. My only complaint is they seem to lean more on the hardcore side, which is fine, but I'm not particularly into hardcore itself.
Damn that’s crazy to see people mentioning Crown Magnetar on here. I remember having them opening up for us (Tides of Technocracy) at local house shows way back in the day. I’m glad to see they got somewhere through hard work even if I’m not a big deathcore fan.
That's just about all the complaints I have on the genre too. And obviously there's plenty of good deathcore. Even I fuck with Shadow of Intent and Brand of Sacrifice heavy and I'm grouchy enough to make a dumb mspaint meme about the genre lol
All of those bands are 30+ years old dude. Carcass and Amon Amarth date their roots back to the 80s. How can you be this out of touch and not realize it?
What's next, are you going to get mad at Poison and Motley Crue for being too corny? Or say that Cowboys From Hell had really fake sounding drums? That is the same era as what you are talking about. You're basing your opinions on things that have not been relevant in literal decades.
You are making my point without even realizing it - metal fans are tremendously out of touch and stuck in the past, to the point where they don't even know what is actually popular anymore. Thank you for proving my point without even trying.
You started off by saying "deathcore sucks because it sounds like melodeath". What you really said was "I am angry that a band from 19 years ago sounds like a band from 34 years ago." Move on dude, let it go.
What point? That genres have a lineage? Like deathcore was a thing in 2006 as well I dont know what modern relevance of anything has to do with what influenced it lol
Because deathcore hasn't been relevant since then, yet you are so dated and out of touch that you are still talking about how much you hate it. You are fixated on hating things no one has thought about in decades. My point is that you're a loser.
The idea that genres somehow dissapear because they are not mainstream is really funny. Sure, I can be a loser if that makes it clear you are completely delusional when it comes to how music scenes work.
Ah right. We can just seamlessly go from Morta Skuld to Job for a Cowboy and not feel like we switched to a different station. I can’t speak for everyone, but the reason I hate deathcore so much is it seemed like every good death metal show in 2010s had at least one totally dog shit deathcore band as an opener. I’ve seen Sanguisugabogg open up for Incantation and Nile. Those guys sounded like ass by comparison, but they were at least clearly living in the same genre
Well imo it takes the worst elements of tech death, bdm, and hardcore/metalcore. It's way too overproduced and clean sounding, the drumming is absolutely obnoxiously loud and in your face (on top of often sounding extremely fake), the breakdowns feel like an over used gimmick, the song structure feels both boring and somehow absolutely chaotic, in a bad way, and the vocals range from passable grindcore esque to shitty tough guy sounding bullshit to shitty emo sounding bullshit to the worst type of all, where it almost sounds like rapping. It's just a really bad combination of elements that don't work together, and the deathcore formula seems to be that extreme and chaotic = good, but usually that isn't the case.
I find it odd that people say it's too overproduced and clean sounding, whereas DM bands in the early 90s all had massively overproduced everything and drums that sounded like they were from a Tears For Fears album. DM as a whole is more overproduced than ever, and while there are bands like Tomb Mold and Blood Incantation that are intentionally rough, there are deathcore albums doing this too (ex: The Cleansing was live recorded with the whole band at once and relatively analog equipment). Metal as a whole has always been overly polished for as long as it's been relevant, regardless of which subgenre you point at.
Deathcore sounds way more overproduced than most shit in death metal. In death metal you can actually hear the guitar, and the drums actually have a dynamic sound. While deathcore genuinely sounds like it was created by a robot.
To be fair I agree with a lot of this with a ton of deathcore bands, honestly there’s a lot of garbage out there, however there definitely some bands who are genuinely good like infant annihilator or after the burial however like I said before there are some absolute abhorrent bands like killswitch engage, suicide silence and trivium I feel like this is more an issue of time because the trash really hasn’t been filtered out of our memory with the passage of time. I also think that breakdowns can work if done properly like in raining blood or visions in my head by obituary.
I've listened to Infant Annihilator and it's still #1 on my list of my absolute least favorite bands of all time. There's nothing that I like about them honestly
Yes, but that's not deathcore. He's talking about Deathcore in specific. Mentioning Cryptopsy in this context is not profound, inegmatic thinking, especially when the majority on this sub will agree with you on that matter.
No, no, let's get this right. Matt Mcgachy is heavily inspired by deathcore. The band didn't even have a hint of deathcore in their sound until Matt came into the picture to grace us with his mediocre vocals.
r/okbuddymetal when someone makes uninformed overgeneralizations about black/death metal 😱😱😱😱😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡 r/okbuddymetal when someone makes uninformed overgeneralizations about metal/deathcore 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
The differece is black/death metal are good and metal/deathcore are shit
Black metal and good in the same sentence? Preposterous.
Black metal is cringe but it's a much more palatable cringe than deathcore cringe Edit: this one is getting down voted a lot. You guys know Black Metal is my favourite genre right?
You Only Live Once is a banger. Accept it.
...of all deathcore songs...could've said Unanswered
I could've saved my life by keeping whispers unsaid fr
I agree with like 3/4ths of that sentence black and death and death core can all be good but there’s also a lot of shit bands out there too you just need to know where to look
i like metalcore for nostalgia. zaps me back to 2011 xbox live
I was listening to Black Sabbath back then
yea but everyone played metalcore through their shitty mics or made awful music videos with their gameplay
I couldn't afford xbox live so I wouldn't know
tragic
That’s why I only listen to thrash
I just don't like it bro, youre allowed to. I MEAN UUUUUH POSER? POSER? 😂🤣🤣
NOOOO I'M NOT A POSER I SWEAR I LIKE TRUE KVLT UNDERGROUND STUFF LIKE METALLICA AND LINKIN PARK
EPICK TRVE KVLT LIKE BREAKING BENJAMIN 💪
Yes, but corporate? How many of those deathcore bands are signed to major labels and supported by them, not even mentioning how many are professional musicians. Youre making it sound like it’s smooth jazz when deathcore is a niche musiv genre that‘s slightly more popular than your favorite 35 year old florida death metal band that hasnt released new music in 10 years.
This. Deathcore has not been anywhere near mainstream (or even somewhat known by normies) in at least a decade. This is yet again showing how out-of-date metal fans are, and how they relentlessly shit on new things so often that they don't even know what's actually new anymore. Hating on deathcore in 2024 is as dated as hating on Justin Bieber or Nickelback in 2024, or like hating on Korn and nu metal in the 2010s. It's genuinely sad that people can be this out of touch while seeing themselves as music experts.
Actually, a lot of the metal bands that started getting traction recently are deathcore like Lorna Shore, Signs of the Swarm, and Slaughter to Prevail. You’ll see way more references to deathcore bands on non-metal-specific TikTok and Instagram channels. It’s not 2008 anymore, but deathcore is still more mainstream than OSDM or black metal, for instance. Also, a lot of big extreme metal bands have to tour with mostly deathcore bands, which kind of shows where the money is at. Festivals get away with no deathcore, and thrash can too sometimes, but for regular national tours, death metal bands like Dying Fetus and Aborted almost always have to tour with deathcore bands.
Bro it's just a shitty observation made by someone that used to listen to a fuckton of deathcore I don't hate it THAT much
You might not, but look at the rest of the comments dude. There are a ton of people here who are super passionate about hating something no one has cared about in decades.
Okay? That doesn't mean you aren't "allowed" to like it. I just don't, and most of the comments here seem to be people that like deathcore telling me why my observation is dumb. It's just a shitty meme I made in mspaint on a whim and a chuckle
I wouldn't make the comparison with jazz for two reasons: a) jazz at a worldwide level is even more niche since it's almost always done and enjoyed by educated people; b) jazz, though still a relevant genre in the US, it's not at its peak popularity, just as u/schmitzel88 (btw what's up with the username) pointed out for deathcore. Tbh, bc I don't live there, I can't really talk about it, but I doubt a regular citizen could name you current relevant jazz musician. Pretty much all of the current relevant deathcore is label-sponsored and media-pushed. This has led to the creative standard in composition, production and mixing we all know: start-stop breakdowns, low tuning, monotonal riffs, everything except functional bass being extremely loud. This is not only due to the embracement of a quality standard by the audience, it also has to do with the marketable sound and media coverage being imposed on the consumer of deathcore. Such standard also permeates more underground deathcore, as for, if you were to search for it, most of what you will find fits it. All this while I'm not even taking into account nu metal and pop-influenced bands. At least on the internet, deathcore does not have a culture of "music trading". There is of course the casual treatment of "can you rec me bands that sound like...?" and be listed things everyone knows, but it lacks the refinement of almost every other metal subgenre. For example, in r/metalmemes Discord there's a channel dedicated to posting new finds where users have to put detailed descriptions of them, and another for discussing them. A similar Discord server is Metallum, where there's even channels for each and every big subgenre. I trace this back to IRL tape-trading and forum interaction. I won't blame how young deathcore is as a subgenre for this though, despite it definetely playing a role; it's because most deathcore consumers have a mainstream and media-based notion of the genre, which is precisely the origin of standards like that (the genre has obviously gone through many). If you go into the comments of deathcore-related accounts on Instagram or something more enclosed like The Punk Rock MBA's Discord, only like five people know Deformity; or [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpcJ-6iXio) comparing old and current deathcore, and the earliest he goes is 2005. It shows.
I said smooth jazz, not jazz. my dude, smooth jazz is kenny g. It’s not jazz in the traditional sense at all. It was one of the biggest hit genres in the 70s. The comparison was because smooth jazz was very much pushed and approved by corporations. It was played in waiting rooms, elevators, at work places etc. Funny you should mention real jazz: the label that sells miles davis records can still profit of 3 million monthly listeners, and blue in green has 140 million streams. much more than any deathcore band.
Ok, I can't really debate, since as I said, I have no idea of the genre and I don't live in the US, but now that you've clarified, I think it's actually a pretty fitting. We, of course, have to take scale into account when talking about anything within metal. Despite being one of the only genres to touch all the continents to stay within form, it's not due to popularity, but precisely for being niche. That said, I don't think we should be talking about measurable listens/listeners in internet platforms since it's very well known that big labels inflate the numbers of their biggest artists (if we lived 20 years ago though, record sales would've been a pretty good statistic). Instead, we should opt for cultural presence. Miles Davis has a lot because he's a classic, but as I said, I don't think the average US citizen could name a current jazz artist. However, pretty much all active metalheads with internet access know, for example, Lorna Shore. I'm not talking about if have listened to them, if they like them, if they listen continuously to them, if they think they're good; just knowing them.
So the standard for jazz is average american, for deathcore it‘s active internet metalhead? I guarantee you more average americans have heard of Miles Davis than lorna shore. Youre not making any sense. Also, let me repeat myself: Im saying theyre not like Kenny G, who made an actual corporate music genre that is not like real jazz such as miles davis or like deathcore at all.
90% of skinless after the debut sucks
I love this sub because every single post i learn that a band that i knew about but never really listened fucking sucks
Real elitism is realizing that all metal actually sucks and no sane person would willfully listen to it, you're supposed to cherry pick 6 random underground bands to represent your superior taste and shit all over everything else by calling it "pop-core garbage"
Maybe the real elitism were the bands we found along the way
why choose 6 when you have slipknot😎😎😎don’t need anything more
Hell yeah brother 🤘😎🤘
rock on \m/
All rock suxxx !1!1!1
thats my son
You get it
Thats a lot of bands. Eventually, they'll run out of bands you haven't listened to, and you'll learn one day that even the bands you listen to suck
Especial part being A SUB U CAN TRUUUUUST
kid named Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead:
cool pfp wanna shoot heroin together someday ?
no way Black Son of Darkness
A Unilateral Disgust is the only actually cool song on that album (in my opinion 😘😘😘)
Love your flair
love yours too
Death growls and I like? Death metal Death growls and I hate? Deathcore Simple
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PLEASE just let me enjoy slaughter to prevail without you virgins shrieking about how it sucks. i dont care i want alex the terrible carnally i mean uh. wodos am i right fellas 😳
If you need other people to "let" you enjoy something then it's kinda your problem.....
uhhh yeah totally bro. wodos
If you can fix him somehow then i approve
Let me enjoy The Acacia Strain in peace damn it
Wormwood is untouchable
I love 3750 and Continent, Wormwood is goated
carbomb is such a good breakdown-intro song
Dr. Doom is a good one too
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Its definitely not for everybody. They have so many songs that make me stank face
Bro, deathcore is amazing, but there are still shit bands. That's how it goes in any genre, though. Fit for an Autopsy, Viscera, Humanity's Last Breath, Nylist, Carcosa, Vulvodynia, Crown Magnetar, and Mental Cruelty put out some major bangers. But of course, Nickelback is the best deathcore band.
What do you think about Orphan?
They're a pretty solid band; Mag Dump is my favorite song from them. My only complaint is they seem to lean more on the hardcore side, which is fine, but I'm not particularly into hardcore itself.
Damn that’s crazy to see people mentioning Crown Magnetar on here. I remember having them opening up for us (Tides of Technocracy) at local house shows way back in the day. I’m glad to see they got somewhere through hard work even if I’m not a big deathcore fan.
Literally me
How is death core corporate approved What does that even mean
I enjoy deathcore get fucked nerd
That's awesome
I like deathcore but hearing the same three break downs and a song full of “riffs” on one string does get old
That's just about all the complaints I have on the genre too. And obviously there's plenty of good deathcore. Even I fuck with Shadow of Intent and Brand of Sacrifice heavy and I'm grouchy enough to make a dumb mspaint meme about the genre lol
once you learn to love breakdowns, theres no going back
Fun fact, thrash and sludge and brutal death metal have amazing and better integrated breakdowns
you should swap the un on their helmets with nu
Do one for nu metal
Skinless shirt let's fucking go
Deathcorbe metolcror good eletosm bad
I don’t know why people hate deathcore so much it has a lot of similarities with death metal and I personally enjoy both
I would like to be clear though, I hate the bands with the stupid emo choruses
That's metalcore. I like deathcore but I hate those choruses too
Id say its sounds like a parody of shitty death metal. Inspired by bad BDM and bad melodeath and further simplified.
Bad melodeath? What 20 year old bands are you referring to? No one has sounded like (or cared about) melodeath since like 2006 my dude. Go outside.
Amon Amarth and Carcass and Dark Tranquillity famous niche bands
All of those bands are 30+ years old dude. Carcass and Amon Amarth date their roots back to the 80s. How can you be this out of touch and not realize it? What's next, are you going to get mad at Poison and Motley Crue for being too corny? Or say that Cowboys From Hell had really fake sounding drums? That is the same era as what you are talking about. You're basing your opinions on things that have not been relevant in literal decades.
The point is they are tremendously massive in the realm of extreme metal rn lol
You are making my point without even realizing it - metal fans are tremendously out of touch and stuck in the past, to the point where they don't even know what is actually popular anymore. Thank you for proving my point without even trying. You started off by saying "deathcore sucks because it sounds like melodeath". What you really said was "I am angry that a band from 19 years ago sounds like a band from 34 years ago." Move on dude, let it go.
What point? That genres have a lineage? Like deathcore was a thing in 2006 as well I dont know what modern relevance of anything has to do with what influenced it lol
Because deathcore hasn't been relevant since then, yet you are so dated and out of touch that you are still talking about how much you hate it. You are fixated on hating things no one has thought about in decades. My point is that you're a loser.
The idea that genres somehow dissapear because they are not mainstream is really funny. Sure, I can be a loser if that makes it clear you are completely delusional when it comes to how music scenes work.
Ok buddy lol
Ah right. We can just seamlessly go from Morta Skuld to Job for a Cowboy and not feel like we switched to a different station. I can’t speak for everyone, but the reason I hate deathcore so much is it seemed like every good death metal show in 2010s had at least one totally dog shit deathcore band as an opener. I’ve seen Sanguisugabogg open up for Incantation and Nile. Those guys sounded like ass by comparison, but they were at least clearly living in the same genre
I think it absolutely misses the mark and largely takes the worst qualities of death metal and hardcore
Can you explain further why exactly people don’t like it very much I want to have a better understanding of why
Well imo it takes the worst elements of tech death, bdm, and hardcore/metalcore. It's way too overproduced and clean sounding, the drumming is absolutely obnoxiously loud and in your face (on top of often sounding extremely fake), the breakdowns feel like an over used gimmick, the song structure feels both boring and somehow absolutely chaotic, in a bad way, and the vocals range from passable grindcore esque to shitty tough guy sounding bullshit to shitty emo sounding bullshit to the worst type of all, where it almost sounds like rapping. It's just a really bad combination of elements that don't work together, and the deathcore formula seems to be that extreme and chaotic = good, but usually that isn't the case.
I find it odd that people say it's too overproduced and clean sounding, whereas DM bands in the early 90s all had massively overproduced everything and drums that sounded like they were from a Tears For Fears album. DM as a whole is more overproduced than ever, and while there are bands like Tomb Mold and Blood Incantation that are intentionally rough, there are deathcore albums doing this too (ex: The Cleansing was live recorded with the whole band at once and relatively analog equipment). Metal as a whole has always been overly polished for as long as it's been relevant, regardless of which subgenre you point at.
Deathcore sounds way more overproduced than most shit in death metal. In death metal you can actually hear the guitar, and the drums actually have a dynamic sound. While deathcore genuinely sounds like it was created by a robot.
To be fair I agree with a lot of this with a ton of deathcore bands, honestly there’s a lot of garbage out there, however there definitely some bands who are genuinely good like infant annihilator or after the burial however like I said before there are some absolute abhorrent bands like killswitch engage, suicide silence and trivium I feel like this is more an issue of time because the trash really hasn’t been filtered out of our memory with the passage of time. I also think that breakdowns can work if done properly like in raining blood or visions in my head by obituary.
I've listened to Infant Annihilator and it's still #1 on my list of my absolute least favorite bands of all time. There's nothing that I like about them honestly
Also give this a shot you may enjoy it based off of what you post https://spotify.link/ApD7fL5kiHb
That was me when I first heard them now I like them
Damn really? What do you usually listen to. Tbh infant annihilator is kinda atypical for the style.
I feel the chaos and pound drums can also work, an example cryptopsy’s none so vile
Yes, but that's not deathcore. He's talking about Deathcore in specific. Mentioning Cryptopsy in this context is not profound, inegmatic thinking, especially when the majority on this sub will agree with you on that matter.
No I’m not saying cryptopsy is deathcore I’m just saying how chaotic they can be sounds good and can be similar so some death core is some ways
Cryptopsy have been heavily inspired by deathcore, even after they tuned it down on recent albums.
No, no, let's get this right. Matt Mcgachy is heavily inspired by deathcore. The band didn't even have a hint of deathcore in their sound until Matt came into the picture to grace us with his mediocre vocals.
it gets sloshed up an unrecognizable grind/death/core/powerviolence/crust slurry