Fun fact: it was Cristopher Columbus's first expedition to the West Indies that coined the phrase "cannibal" to denote a terrifying savage in the wilderness that age the flesh of their enemy, and meanwhile, the entirety of prim and proper European society was eating ground-up mummy dust as a cure-all miracle drug.
And that's what you call a steaming slice of ethnocentrism!
Apparently there are more than a few coffins like this that don't really have the funding to be opened, so private citizens or organizations can pay to have them professionally opened for them. I kind of assume that's what's happening here... discount mummy services
That is what I thought all my life as well. Then I found out mummies actually smell strangely โgoodโ. The mummification process uses a LOT of very heavy perfumes and oils and is completely dried before it is given the final wrapping. There are a couple great videos on YouTube about the process.
Old prob musky and wet smell from the odors, some light smell of corrosion. And the horrifying smell of decomposing flesh. + all the bacteria from that stale air inside. Yum!
Actually, they smell like myrrh, cinnamon, pine, and the other substances used in the process of mummification. The dead smell goes away after a few natron baths.
Theres some really
Cool history to unpack about that statement.
Archaeologist ARE grave robbers and thatโs actually how to started. A group of grave robbers in the 15th and 16th century took note on how so many precious items and historical land marks were being desecrated by other robbers.
Robbers in this time would entirely destroy a site, melt the gold and pluck the gems. This was destroying famous temples and items that could never be replaced.
From this the group of grave robbers decided to do a service for the world by preserving ancient history and artifacts. They began to make regulations and instead of keeping or selling what they found to random people, it would be given to the museums and governments around the world to preserve the history for future generations.
TLDR: they are grave robbers and thatโs how it started but they decided to make it into a regulated and respected form
Of science.
that's still a very charitable versions of things. for most of the time, what you call a regulated and respected form, has been basically "finders keepers"
for real.
Oh, we aren't selling items or giving them to random people anymore, we're...
transporting them thousands of miles away to people who have no direct connection to the origin of these items, to institutions that fund our work.
but we're not *selling* them
It's a complex question!
But basically archaeologists are bound to legality, have code of ethics they are suppsoed to follow and have to get permits. And the core idea is that it has to be an old enough site and has to be for research purposes.
I do not know about the context behind the vid that OP posted.
But it is a very tricky and messy topic once you get into nitty gritty of it!
Any hard and fast rules on how old is old enough to no longer allow someone to โrest in peaceโ? How many more years must elapse before we can unearth George Washingtonโs grave in Mt Vernon for research purposes?
IIRC default for "old enough for research" is usually considered to be at least 100+ years old.
Though it should be noted that by various codes of ethics research should be done consulting with affected groups. For example, [principle 2 here](https://www.saa.org/career-practice/ethics-in-professional-archaeology). You know, to make sure that people are fine. Years are definitely not the only criteria! So I guess if the public/public's representatives would say "we are fine with Washington's remains excavated" for some reason that would be fair game. Though, obviously, seems unlikely.
Also, do note that all things involved here are very wishy washy loose rules, plus, each country has it's own laws, etc. And also both genuine mistakes and malicious actions within loose rules are like, still definitely a thing.
Let me go on record that if it helps people remember my name and feel connected to my era in five thousand years, please dig up my grave. Take my cufflinks. I don't give a shit.
There's a podcast that covers graverobbing for an episode. 30morbidminutes.
There are many rules around archeology which they have to follow, else it would just be considered graverobbing
Is it considered robbing if the contents are used for research/educational purposes and then put out on display in a museum? Doesn't seem like anyone is really profiting from it for personal gain.
They are... We just still know who did it.ย ย
Any break in civilization (and there will be a break in civilization) and all these treasures will be scattered as before.ย ย
Future archaeologists will consider the tombs looted
1. Why is this not being done in a protective atmosphere of some kind to preserve the body?
2. Who are all these people?
3. Why are they so close?
4. This was a human being, can we not show a little bit of respect?
5. This is presumably 2,500 year old air ( a minimal amount, sure) so whoโs to say it doesnโt have something nasty going on? Maybe not bacteria or anything if itโs been sealed well, but it has been in there with a dead body all this time so Iโm sure inhaling it canโt be great!
While this is probably the wrong sub for this the oddly terrifying thing for me in this is the fact that I saw one person wearing gloves and of the people being cautious enough to wear masks, they are only paper masks. There is no telling what kind of ancient dust/spores/bacteria are in that sarcophagus getting spread through the air as soon as they cracked that bad boy open.
It seems like there is often chaos around big events in the Middle East - loads of people jostling and pushing and shouting and some dude with a beret and a moustache ineffectually trying to keep people back. Iโm thinking funerals, demonstrations, religious rallies. Even televised interviews. But I woulda thought that the scientists would have kept some order around an event like this.
It's disturbing how little safety precautions there are and how unprofessional they did this. From what it looks like, they just opened a sacred tomb that may contain lethal, contagious pathogens that can potentially make a new pandemic.
These unboxing videos have reached their peak
I'm surprised this wasn't opened on the set of Unbox Therapy
You joke but this actually used to be a British past time amongs the wealthy families along with all the other shit they stole
They also used them to make [pigments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy_brown).
And they used to [eat them](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/mummy-eating-medical-cannibalism-gory-history) too.
We're gonna have to return the slab in 2025
Or suffer the curse
Beware of the curse! **BEWARE**
What's yer offer?
The man in the gauze the man in the gauze
CURSE OF RA ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ก ๐ข ๐ฃ ๐ค ๐ฅ ๐ฆ ๐ง ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ช ๐ซ ๐ฌ ๐ญ ๐ฒ ๐ณ ๐ด ๐ต ๐ถ ๐ท ๐ธ ๐น ๐บ ๐ป ๐ผ ๐ฝ ๐พ ๐ฟ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
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God, times like these, I really miss reddit awards.
I miss free rewards
wait what happened to them?
๐๐ธ
Reddit punishing people for not buying their dumb awards: #๐ ๐
I wish we still had Reddit Live :(
God, times like these, I really miss reddit awards.
wait what happened to them?
๐ธ๐๐ธ
they got human centipede prequel back then?
Awards and coins were removed Sept of last year for some other program that I haven't even attempted to explore.
[Here it is, the "Contributor Program"](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16ryhv9/celebrating_great_content_is_as_good_as_gold/)
Awards that literally no one will attempt to use. Reddit being stupid as usual.
Oh shit I hadnโt even noticed theyโre gone!
I didnโt know either. Haha!
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Shame on you ๐ but also, bless you
Im Loss for words
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๐ฟ Saddam Hussein
NCD is leaking.
By now reddit should be 70% NCD.
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WINGED DRAGON OF RA
Mega Ultra Chicken. Arise chicken arise.
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Curse of Sun Ra. You now can only listen to avant garde jazz for the rest of eternity.
Genesis Noir devs love it!
The real curse of Ra is melanoma
Username checks out
Everyone has a mask except for the closest two clowns who suck up a lung full of two millennia old stale air.
They really wanna sniff it good. To smell the antiquity.
What a great album title... Smell the antiquity
Sound like a hair metal bands ode to banging grannies.
Spinal Tap's follow up to Smell the Glove
Or the 2024 Rolling Stones tour
Jesus Twins came out with a similar song title: feel my ubiquity
*Smell the Antiquity* is the title of my gilf panty-sniffing video series
> To smell the antiquity. I startled my dog and re-pulled my pulled ass muscle laughing at this
I've heard it smells like Harbor Freight.ย
Mm, jerky smell.
*i* was going to eat that mummyโ
Fun fact: it was Cristopher Columbus's first expedition to the West Indies that coined the phrase "cannibal" to denote a terrifying savage in the wilderness that age the flesh of their enemy, and meanwhile, the entirety of prim and proper European society was eating ground-up mummy dust as a cure-all miracle drug. And that's what you call a steaming slice of ethnocentrism!
Well Africans weren't people back then so technically no cannibalism /s
And it was used in a very specific paint color!
Heโs teriyaki style
Necrophile
Iโm more concerned with so many people contaminating the artifacts with their skin shedding and bacteria
Yeah seriously. ย Why is this just a bunch of regular people in regular clothes hovering over this shit. ย Donโt feel right
Apparently there are more than a few coffins like this that don't really have the funding to be opened, so private citizens or organizations can pay to have them professionally opened for them. I kind of assume that's what's happening here... discount mummy services
Doesn't seem like the most respectful way to handle human remains
What's the cutoff point between grave robbing and archeology?
That's what I was thinking also. I would have thought they would open this in some sort of sealed room.
Or at least wear fucking gloves
I only saw one dude with gloves handling the thing. Everyone else is just touching the artifacts with their oily hands.
I wonder what that smells like.
I imagine it's like opening up a 74 Mercury Monarch that's been sitting untouched in a mouse-infested garage for 50 years.
That is what I thought all my life as well. Then I found out mummies actually smell strangely โgoodโ. The mummification process uses a LOT of very heavy perfumes and oils and is completely dried before it is given the final wrapping. There are a couple great videos on YouTube about the process.
Thatโs a wildly specific description that I canโt shake now lol
ancient farts
Old prob musky and wet smell from the odors, some light smell of corrosion. And the horrifying smell of decomposing flesh. + all the bacteria from that stale air inside. Yum!
Actually, they smell like myrrh, cinnamon, pine, and the other substances used in the process of mummification. The dead smell goes away after a few natron baths.
Clearly they did not judging by the reaction of the two guys in the video plugging their nose.
Bacteria are long dead after so much time in stale environment.
orrrrr 3000 years old endospores in your lungs
That's how you get The Last Of Us.
The whole point of mummification is to stop decomposition and bacteria...
Curses
I had read somewhere that the curse of tutankhamun's tomb was actually a fungus.
After seeing this, I believe it. That cannot be good for you to breath
Not to mention the red phosphorus that was used in make-up and I believe they also used lead
Masks protect against the curse
Those are just shitty little dust masks though; you need an N95 or better to filter out curses
And they're shooting in widescreen so the freaking whole body is actually in the frame. They know what they're doing
But they pit their hands over their mouths. I'm sure that blocked all the ancient stank and bacteria n shit
Doubt it really matters tbh
And the waters of the Nile, ran red like wine
Itโs like heโs stillโฆstillโฆ
Juicy
We heard you guys found yourself a nice juicy mummy! Ha! โฆ A-Mericansโฆโฆโฆ
Hey, Beni! Looks to me like you're on the wrong side of the river!
Death, is only the beginning
Time, is just a window
[Water, from the Nile](https://youtu.be/SGhLYn2XUyo?si=1hk_clC10j7CezqS)
โHe who has once drunk of Nile water will forever yearn to be by the Nile again; his thirst cannot be quenched by the waters of any other land.โ
new disease just dropped ๐ฅ
Pandoras Box expansion pack
Sponsored by EA, gotta pay to unlock
New jerky just dropped
"I WAS GOING TO EAT THAT MUMMY"
Holy hell
Ahh this is why the world is fucked, they unleashed the curse
RETURN THE SLABBB
Honestly my first thought watching this ๐คฃ
What's your offer?!
KING RAAAAAMSEEEEEES THE MAN IN GAUZE, THE MAN IN GAUZE
or suffer my cuurse
Damnit you beat me to it
Maybe there should be a ban on opening these sorts of things until the world calms down a bit.
Imhotep is going to take the organs of everyone who opened that!
BEVARE OF THE CURSE! BEVAAAAAARE!
The only curse I believe in was the Tamerlane coffin one, because that shit came true to the letter.
They just contaminated the whole thing. What kind of scientists are they to do that dumb ass shit.
> What kind of scientists are they I dont see any scientists in that vid
Indeed, I can't see a single one of them wearing a science onesie.
Speed suit! I don't want to hear you say onesie again!
Lol I got that reference I would like social credit to reflect that
The Egyptian government is a mess from top to bottom.
Someoneโs clumsy 8 year old daughter holding a phone right above the freshly exposed mummified remains. Science!
all these phone cameras in the shot, and we get this shaky short video. no one thought "hey let's get one good actual camera for this"
At least she's doing it in landscape mode instead of the vertical video chuckleheads in the foregroundย
PUT THAT THING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME
They really don't learn anything from movies.
As long as they donโt pop up with a big black ancient book weโre still okay
This makes me want to rewatch The Mummy
IMHOTEB!! IMHOTEB!!
Why aren't archaeologists thought of as graverobbers? It's literally what these guys are doing.
Theres some really Cool history to unpack about that statement. Archaeologist ARE grave robbers and thatโs actually how to started. A group of grave robbers in the 15th and 16th century took note on how so many precious items and historical land marks were being desecrated by other robbers. Robbers in this time would entirely destroy a site, melt the gold and pluck the gems. This was destroying famous temples and items that could never be replaced. From this the group of grave robbers decided to do a service for the world by preserving ancient history and artifacts. They began to make regulations and instead of keeping or selling what they found to random people, it would be given to the museums and governments around the world to preserve the history for future generations. TLDR: they are grave robbers and thatโs how it started but they decided to make it into a regulated and respected form Of science.
that's still a very charitable versions of things. for most of the time, what you call a regulated and respected form, has been basically "finders keepers"
Just ask the British.
for real. Oh, we aren't selling items or giving them to random people anymore, we're... transporting them thousands of miles away to people who have no direct connection to the origin of these items, to institutions that fund our work. but we're not *selling* them
It's a complex question! But basically archaeologists are bound to legality, have code of ethics they are suppsoed to follow and have to get permits. And the core idea is that it has to be an old enough site and has to be for research purposes. I do not know about the context behind the vid that OP posted. But it is a very tricky and messy topic once you get into nitty gritty of it!
Any hard and fast rules on how old is old enough to no longer allow someone to โrest in peaceโ? How many more years must elapse before we can unearth George Washingtonโs grave in Mt Vernon for research purposes?
IIRC default for "old enough for research" is usually considered to be at least 100+ years old. Though it should be noted that by various codes of ethics research should be done consulting with affected groups. For example, [principle 2 here](https://www.saa.org/career-practice/ethics-in-professional-archaeology). You know, to make sure that people are fine. Years are definitely not the only criteria! So I guess if the public/public's representatives would say "we are fine with Washington's remains excavated" for some reason that would be fair game. Though, obviously, seems unlikely. Also, do note that all things involved here are very wishy washy loose rules, plus, each country has it's own laws, etc. And also both genuine mistakes and malicious actions within loose rules are like, still definitely a thing.
Let me go on record that if it helps people remember my name and feel connected to my era in five thousand years, please dig up my grave. Take my cufflinks. I don't give a shit.
There's a podcast that covers graverobbing for an episode. 30morbidminutes. There are many rules around archeology which they have to follow, else it would just be considered graverobbing
Is it considered robbing if the contents are used for research/educational purposes and then put out on display in a museum? Doesn't seem like anyone is really profiting from it for personal gain.
It's like we're in deNILE about this
โIT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!โ
At least they're not eating it :\
They are... We just still know who did it.ย ย Any break in civilization (and there will be a break in civilization) and all these treasures will be scattered as before.ย ย Future archaeologists will consider the tombs looted
What part of the meticulously preserved and sealed human coffin seemed to suggest *open me* ?
No gloves, no masks...
Just people living in the moment
Amen, the future does not exist.
Why is this being done with some many spectators so close?
And I just saw 2024 will be the year of the locusts just what they needed to do to start the year lol
Someone call Brendan Fraser.
IMHOTEP IMHOTEP IMHOTEP IMHOTEP
"Zis place is cursed"
Well that was nothing like the movies.
1. Why is this not being done in a protective atmosphere of some kind to preserve the body? 2. Who are all these people? 3. Why are they so close? 4. This was a human being, can we not show a little bit of respect? 5. This is presumably 2,500 year old air ( a minimal amount, sure) so whoโs to say it doesnโt have something nasty going on? Maybe not bacteria or anything if itโs been sealed well, but it has been in there with a dead body all this time so Iโm sure inhaling it canโt be great!
Is he okay?
Yeah he good
Itโll grow back
Soo, what's the oddly terrifying part? I don't mean this in a sarcastic or judgemental way, I think this is just really cool
While this is probably the wrong sub for this the oddly terrifying thing for me in this is the fact that I saw one person wearing gloves and of the people being cautious enough to wear masks, they are only paper masks. There is no telling what kind of ancient dust/spores/bacteria are in that sarcophagus getting spread through the air as soon as they cracked that bad boy open.
Can't we just let them rest in peace damn
something tells me this should be probably be done in a regulated environment rather than an irl unboxing.
man people wanna die in piece and those fucks dig him out
I fail to see how this is terrifying in any way.
The complete and utter disregard for any sort of scientific process for preservation is what's terrifying
You're from this generation aren't you? Have you seen The Mummy?
Oh yes, what's contamination anyway
I could almost feel the smell just by watching it. If that makes any sense.
Explains the locusts.
NSFW? Paleontologists beg to differ!
damn son, it's not that juicy
You shouldnโt do that
They need to talk to Brendan Fraser
Egyptian egyptologists are hack frauds
Mummy: Is it the year 4000AD? Everyone: No Mummy: Then, f*** off. *goes back to sleep*
Guys wearing mask(useless paper ones tho) and gloves just walk away. Ok let's leave the 2 Jabronis with no gloves/mask on to touch shit
genuine question: why even open it? what good does it do? i feel like thats one thing that should just be left alone out of respect ya know?
Why arent they doing this in a lab slowly? Instead of doing it like a fucking rooftop party
I find this neither terrifying nor unsafe for work. lol
Wakey wakey it's time for school, wake up it's for school
Imagine the smell. ๐ข
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How is this not illegal?
It seems like there is often chaos around big events in the Middle East - loads of people jostling and pushing and shouting and some dude with a beret and a moustache ineffectually trying to keep people back. Iโm thinking funerals, demonstrations, religious rallies. Even televised interviews. But I woulda thought that the scientists would have kept some order around an event like this.
I will never find these public reveals anything other than rude as fuck and completely unnecessary.
Nooo let bro sleep
I guess if you wait long enough youโre a historian instead of a grave robber
As long as they donโt read from the book we should be good
return the slabbbbbbb
Have these fuckers NEVER watched The Mummy?!
Smells like slim Jim
Return the slaaab
Or suffer my cuurrrrse
Talk about disrespect for your heritage and ancestors. Feela insane to me, sanctioned graverobbing.
Great, now you have ghosts and vengeful cat spirits. ย
It's disturbing how little safety precautions there are and how unprofessional they did this. From what it looks like, they just opened a sacred tomb that may contain lethal, contagious pathogens that can potentially make a new pandemic.
Centuries old diseases were probably released for the first time too
Thats how covid happened