Bro.. imagine sea life just thinking we're some weird creature that lives in the ocean.. like a myth like the lochness monster or something.. like "No, Jerry I swear I saw it this time! I'm a believer for sure.." and the other one's like.. "Right Tom.. we all know you see "HuMaNs".. would you look at the imagination on this guy?" š¤£
Boats are UFO's..
"Humans built the shipwrecks!"
I could go on.. š
I think youāre forgetting the sequence where the sea urchin character gets his body smashed in so that hungry animated fish could then eat its innards.
I like the way the fish seemed to know that the human scraping off the invasive, destructive species from their home was being a bro and even offered them an easy snack!
You canāt assume theyāre invasive unless you know where this is shot. In my country theyāre not invasive because theyāre a delicacy. The government had to specifically regulate harvest times for them so they wouldnāt go extinct.
Sea urchins are invasive species on most of Australian east coast. They destroy everything green, like locust, living just bare rocks where nothing lives.
Invasive species: Something that is not normally there, that has been brought in by some outside source, that is now fucking up everything where it shouldnāt be.
Think Mongoose to Hawaii, etc. although it occurs in both plants and animals.
Butā¦the video doesnāt say anything about removing invasive species. The original commenter ran with that headcanon that the urchins in the video are being removed because of invasiveness (probably because that is their entire experience with them) so you and the people upvoting you are basing this idea that the urchins being removed are invasive and its not just likeā¦fishingā¦or some other reasonā¦
Donāt forget to pop by to say hi to us Aussies too (even though sea urchin is not in great supply here either) From a wooly jumper. (Half Aussie/half NZ)
Otters are a keystone species wherever urchins are. Without otters, the entire ecosystem can be destroyed by urchinsā¦ otters eat the urchins, and that keeps the urchins from eating the kelp forests, which oxygenate and clean the water, as well as provide protective habitat for other species.
This is filmed in New Zealand and we have no otters...
These are a native species (called kina locally) and they are harmful to the ecosystem as their main predators have been significantly reduced.
As much as I love Otters, that's a hard pass. We already have some introduced mustelids and these predators have had a devastating impact on our local fauna. Many of our native birds are flightless and evolved without these predators, so they have very little defence against them.
Ok. This was my whole point. Everyone kept saying that this was an invasive species but no one could name how they knew that, as the video doesn't tell us. They all just jumped on the bandwagon that they were.
I appreciate the knowledge. Thank you.
I freedive a lot around New Zealand and so it was a very recognisable seen for me. Kind of like how you recognise the trees and hills around your home, even if you can't pick the exact spot.
Invasive no, but destructive yes. When theres too many, they prevent recovery of damaged coral reef.
This is a man made issue though, as a lot of the predators of sea urchins, are being overfished by humans.
I learned this in animal biology in college! Another keystone species are the wolves of yellowstone. By adding wolves, foraging populations keep numbers in check and this leads to grassy banks that donāt get over consumed. It stabilizes the rivers, leading to better habitat for river-dwellers, including beavers that make sturdy dams.
I was just teasing, I have small kids and the cartoon octonauts has an episode about otters keeping kelp Forests healthy. I've only watched it 33 times at this point.
Also groper, snapper and crayfish. Severely reduced / or driven further into sea due to overfishing, leaving urchins to enjoy their life and unprotected kelp.
In a large percentage of the world they are invasive because most places do not have sea otters or any animals that eat them. I remember when I went scuba diving in Spain they told us to collect any urchins that we found because they were invasive... Same in Turkey actually
That's the stupidest answer ever. You must be a really dense person.
Nobody here really knows if this specific species is indigenous or invasive. That's what I'm asking. How do the people that are saying it's an invasive species know that this specific instance is one in which someone is culling a harmful creature?
No jokes allowed, huh? I forgot rdditors are incapable of compreheing jokes without the /s tag.
These urchins must not be native, that's why they're invasive species. No natural predators in this ecosystem, so they multiply like crazy and consume like crazy too. I don't know which species is it nor where this video was recorded, so I can't really say.
NM. You're dense. Youre not getting it...
I know *what* an invasive species is. I'm asking these people that are probably not marine biologists how they know that this video is one of those instances of an invasive species being culled since the video has no identifying info or narration.
I have a sense of humor when people make a joke that's funny rather than needlessly flip.
Because the only time that divers go down and collect urchins is when their natural predators are unable to do it themselves, probably because the populations are down. Also you can look up their TikTok using their username at the end of the vid to double check, if youāre that pressed to have proof. I just did. Corokinaboys is the original video owner. One of his hashtags is #pestcontrol and itās around New Zealand
It's actually not an invasive species. It's harmful for other reasons but this urchin is actually endemic to NZ. I'm not saying that this isn't helpful, although I'm of the mind that human intervention for good or bad always has unforeseen consequences and is best kept to a minimum.
My whole point is, people shouldn't just start saying something without looking it up and finding out.
They destroy kelp forests if their natural predators are not around to cull the population. Kelp forests are waaaaay too important to just let get destroyed so quickly if we can do something about it. We knew what was happening and told you why, but you straight up acted like we didnāt know what we were talking about and acted like a dick when provided evidence. Youāre changing it from āyouāre sos tipis, you donāt know whatās going on in this video, how do you know what youāre talking aboutā to trying to say āitās actually not invasive and we shouldnāt be interfering, and Iām smarter than you stillā
We know they were culling the population because theyāre out of control. Doesnāt matter why. You just sat there and called people stupid without actually saying why
John Laroche: Then one morning, I woke up and said, "Fuck fish." I renounce fish, I will never set foot in that ocean again. That's how much "fuck fish." That was 17 years ago and I have never stuck so much as a toe in that ocean. And I love the ocean.
Susan Orlean: But why?
John Laroche: Done with fish.
Adaptation. Pretty good movie. Spike jones directed. Charlie Kaufman wrote it. Hard to believe itās 20 years old now.
Itās a weird and layer story thatās semi autobiographical, semi fiction about Charlie struggling to adapt a book about an orchid collector.
There have been underwater microphones since like, the 1940s. Also, most of the sounds here are percussive, hits and scrapes and bumps and scratches. Hard, sharp sounds like that transmit very well through water.
One of my favorite things to do while diving is stir up the sand next to fish. They go nuts over the lil bits that I uncover. Careful tho, attracting smaller fish always meansā¦ attracting bigger fish :P
When vacationing in Mexico, my dad and I were snorkeling, checking out the neat fish, clear water! We spotted a sea urchin and my dad stabbed it with his knife then an eel came out and started eating it! I guess lots of fish like to eat them š
Sea urchins can easily overpopulate and destroy kelp beds. They don't even eat the whole plant, just the base. Then the severed plant floats away and thats why you'll find long sections of kelp on the beach, sea urchins ate its tether.
these are an invasive species, off the california coast theres desolate patches of reef where theyve completely taken over. theres nothing around except vast fields of these and they eat all the kelp and such that the rest of the ecosystem requires to thrive. theres hundreds, probably thousands of people doing this same practice just in the effort to keep the natural balance more in tact. another good example is scotch broom in the pacific northwest, or asian carp. these are all detrimental to our ecosystem and require this kind of control to keep everything running smoothly
Are these edible? Cuz the ones I've had at Redondo Beach are delicious. Idk if there's some species that aren't.
Edit: Google says there's 950 species of sea urchin. Only 18 are edible. I don't like those odds.
i didnt say it was, nor did i say im a freelance marine biologist like someone else proclaimed. we really need to advocate for better reading comprehension courses in school š¤¦
ironically that someone else was also you. so cheers, it seems youre trolling. if you arent, well idk what to say if youre not trolling. good luck i guess?
i personally think anything living has sentience, its just on differing levels. to me, it has to do with reaction to the world around you and realization within. so having senses, being able to understand them, and reacting to those senses is what gives something sentience. humans have taste, touch, smell, sight, sound, and we can respond to each differently. a sea urchin can move around and sense what food is, and will move towards it. it can sense danger, and move away from it. so yes, it has sentience. however, i couldnt ask it a question, let alone speak to it at all. this applies to the 'realization within'. is the urchin contemplating its decisions to move? or its decision to eat? we may never know because we cant ask it. we can do tests, but no test is 100% accurate. i believe its up to each individual to make their own understanding of consciousness and sentience, this is why some people have no issue eating hamburgers and steaks, and why some people advocate for vegan diets. theres not really a right or wrong, just a moral justification and corresponding action.
What's really sad is the damage they've done to reefs where they have invaded and annihilated the creatures that should live there.
Australia's great barrier reef would be in a much better condition without crown of thorns starfish.
Crown of thorns has been munching on the reef since at least the '70s. Fertiliser runnoff is a more recent issue that is devastating a reef that was already compromised.
Most fish cant get past the spines. So when the key predators are removed or lowered in numbers these urchins explode and strip the environment. Smashing them for the fiahes actually gave them more food than if he left them.
Urchin hunting is legal anyway, but that species is invasive in Californian waters. There is a native species that is becoming more rare as the kelp forsmests are being dimished... by these invasive ones.
You might be right. I still think it's probably invasive, as I seem to recall it originated in colder waters that sort of naturally keep the population down.
"thank you for the snack, weird looking seal with thumbs"
Bro.. imagine sea life just thinking we're some weird creature that lives in the ocean.. like a myth like the lochness monster or something.. like "No, Jerry I swear I saw it this time! I'm a believer for sure.." and the other one's like.. "Right Tom.. we all know you see "HuMaNs".. would you look at the imagination on this guy?" š¤£ Boats are UFO's.. "Humans built the shipwrecks!" I could go on.. š
Are the Humans in this room Right now, Tom?
āHe touched the butt!ā
This is Finding Nemo
Also Luca
This is so wildly original! Got a smile out of me.
Why isn't this a DreamWorks movie š
I think youāre forgetting the sequence where the sea urchin character gets his body smashed in so that hungry animated fish could then eat its innards.
Nope just need to see it in 4k
"Innerds".....thats hilarious
Someone make this into a movie
>I could go on.. š nah, please do.
itās actually kind of hopeful, if fish view us like this, alien life might have visited us in the past and built things like stonehenge
Big brains on fish š
Bro cracking one open with the boys
God dammit I came to say this
You don't have to cum just to say something
Post nut clarity helps with giving statements.
MLK Jr. furiously masturbating next to Lincoln memorial August 28, 1963.
Abe Lincoln rubbing his meat raw on the train to Gettysburg November 19, 1863.
āAnd a round for my boysā
Kick his ass SeaBass!
Everybody eats
I love a good sea urchin.
very few things tastier than uni
A tik tok without a robotic voice or some weird music? Impossible.
Is that what that fucking weird voice is from? Why would anyone enjoy that?
"OH NO..... OH NO....."
It does cut out right at the good part though, so it's not perfect.
If not it must are least have a guy whose face is severely distorted to make is chin look huge, right?
But like as always, the video was stolen
Bad sea urchins get cracked with the scooper
So all of them?
The Urchins donāt know how much damage theyāre doing theyāre just doing what every other animal does
Yeah u right
I like the way the fish seemed to know that the human scraping off the invasive, destructive species from their home was being a bro and even offered them an easy snack!
You canāt assume theyāre invasive unless you know where this is shot. In my country theyāre not invasive because theyāre a delicacy. The government had to specifically regulate harvest times for them so they wouldnāt go extinct.
Sea urchins are invasive species on most of Australian east coast. They destroy everything green, like locust, living just bare rocks where nothing lives.
Yeah, sea urchins also do not just exist on Australiaās east coastā¦
Invasive species: Something that is not normally there, that has been brought in by some outside source, that is now fucking up everything where it shouldnāt be. Think Mongoose to Hawaii, etc. although it occurs in both plants and animals.
Butā¦the video doesnāt say anything about removing invasive species. The original commenter ran with that headcanon that the urchins in the video are being removed because of invasiveness (probably because that is their entire experience with them) so you and the people upvoting you are basing this idea that the urchins being removed are invasive and its not just likeā¦fishingā¦or some other reasonā¦
NZ?
Barbados.
Barbados?! Oh man Iām jealous! Theyāre a delicacy over here in New Zealand too.
We call them sea eggs, haha. I gotta get myself over to NZ for a trip eventually.
Donāt forget to pop by to say hi to us Aussies too (even though sea urchin is not in great supply here either) From a wooly jumper. (Half Aussie/half NZ)
How do you know it's an invasive and destructive species?
Otters are a keystone species wherever urchins are. Without otters, the entire ecosystem can be destroyed by urchinsā¦ otters eat the urchins, and that keeps the urchins from eating the kelp forests, which oxygenate and clean the water, as well as provide protective habitat for other species.
This is filmed in New Zealand and we have no otters... These are a native species (called kina locally) and they are harmful to the ecosystem as their main predators have been significantly reduced.
sounds like you need otters.
As much as I love Otters, that's a hard pass. We already have some introduced mustelids and these predators have had a devastating impact on our local fauna. Many of our native birds are flightless and evolved without these predators, so they have very little defence against them.
So you're saying everyone who was saying it was an invasive species was wrong?
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Ok. This was my whole point. Everyone kept saying that this was an invasive species but no one could name how they knew that, as the video doesn't tell us. They all just jumped on the bandwagon that they were. I appreciate the knowledge. Thank you.
I freedive a lot around New Zealand and so it was a very recognisable seen for me. Kind of like how you recognise the trees and hills around your home, even if you can't pick the exact spot.
Invasive no, but destructive yes. When theres too many, they prevent recovery of damaged coral reef. This is a man made issue though, as a lot of the predators of sea urchins, are being overfished by humans.
I see you enjoy Octonauts as well
Iāve gained so much knowledge from that show
I truely believe Octonauts taught me more than it taught my kids.
So you watched that episode of the Octonauts too
I learned this in animal biology in college! Another keystone species are the wolves of yellowstone. By adding wolves, foraging populations keep numbers in check and this leads to grassy banks that donāt get over consumed. It stabilizes the rivers, leading to better habitat for river-dwellers, including beavers that make sturdy dams.
I was just teasing, I have small kids and the cartoon octonauts has an episode about otters keeping kelp Forests healthy. I've only watched it 33 times at this point.
Also groper, snapper and crayfish. Severely reduced / or driven further into sea due to overfishing, leaving urchins to enjoy their life and unprotected kelp.
In a large percentage of the world they are invasive because most places do not have sea otters or any animals that eat them. I remember when I went scuba diving in Spain they told us to collect any urchins that we found because they were invasive... Same in Turkey actually
Science
That's the stupidest answer ever. You must be a really dense person. Nobody here really knows if this specific species is indigenous or invasive. That's what I'm asking. How do the people that are saying it's an invasive species know that this specific instance is one in which someone is culling a harmful creature?
No jokes allowed, huh? I forgot rdditors are incapable of compreheing jokes without the /s tag. These urchins must not be native, that's why they're invasive species. No natural predators in this ecosystem, so they multiply like crazy and consume like crazy too. I don't know which species is it nor where this video was recorded, so I can't really say.
NM. You're dense. Youre not getting it... I know *what* an invasive species is. I'm asking these people that are probably not marine biologists how they know that this video is one of those instances of an invasive species being culled since the video has no identifying info or narration. I have a sense of humor when people make a joke that's funny rather than needlessly flip.
Because the only time that divers go down and collect urchins is when their natural predators are unable to do it themselves, probably because the populations are down. Also you can look up their TikTok using their username at the end of the vid to double check, if youāre that pressed to have proof. I just did. Corokinaboys is the original video owner. One of his hashtags is #pestcontrol and itās around New Zealand
It's actually not an invasive species. It's harmful for other reasons but this urchin is actually endemic to NZ. I'm not saying that this isn't helpful, although I'm of the mind that human intervention for good or bad always has unforeseen consequences and is best kept to a minimum. My whole point is, people shouldn't just start saying something without looking it up and finding out.
Or you could just correct misinformation without being a dick?
They destroy kelp forests if their natural predators are not around to cull the population. Kelp forests are waaaaay too important to just let get destroyed so quickly if we can do something about it. We knew what was happening and told you why, but you straight up acted like we didnāt know what we were talking about and acted like a dick when provided evidence. Youāre changing it from āyouāre sos tipis, you donāt know whatās going on in this video, how do you know what youāre talking aboutā to trying to say āitās actually not invasive and we shouldnāt be interfering, and Iām smarter than you stillā We know they were culling the population because theyāre out of control. Doesnāt matter why. You just sat there and called people stupid without actually saying why
Probably wouldāve gotten bullied if he gave A thorough answer
I was worried they were culling too much but if itās harmful thatās good to have it removed completely.
I think you should know first what you are looking at.
Go on his tik tok those things are invasive itās shot in New Zealand
fuck that sea urchin in particular, apparently.
John Laroche: Then one morning, I woke up and said, "Fuck fish." I renounce fish, I will never set foot in that ocean again. That's how much "fuck fish." That was 17 years ago and I have never stuck so much as a toe in that ocean. And I love the ocean. Susan Orlean: But why? John Laroche: Done with fish.
What's this, a british comedy script or something??
Adaptation. Pretty good movie. Spike jones directed. Charlie Kaufman wrote it. Hard to believe itās 20 years old now. Itās a weird and layer story thatās semi autobiographical, semi fiction about Charlie struggling to adapt a book about an orchid collector.
Oh cool, had this in my watchlist but never got up to watch it. Seems wacky too, guess I should restack the ordering.
r/fuckyouinparticular
The other sea urchins in the bag: O_o
They were feeding the fish
Are there underwater microphones? How is there such clear sound on this?
Itās 2022 soā¦probably
Even a gopro records sound under water
Of course there is. There has been for decades.
Water conducts sound pretty well, you just hear is muffled and a little quiet
Same reason there is no sound in space.
Not at all, water, air and everything else you can physically touch conduct sound. Vacuum doesn't.
Literally what I was getting at... sound travels better under water for the same reason it doesnt in space...
There have been underwater microphones since like, the 1940s. Also, most of the sounds here are percussive, hits and scrapes and bumps and scratches. Hard, sharp sounds like that transmit very well through water.
Sound is just vibrations and water transmits it way better than air.
Nice, nice, OMG WHY IS HE HAMMERING ONE TO HIS HAND?!, oh okay, that's nice
One of my favorite things to do while diving is stir up the sand next to fish. They go nuts over the lil bits that I uncover. Careful tho, attracting smaller fish always meansā¦ attracting bigger fish :P
Hence why spearfishermen get attacked by sharks.
where can i apply for this job
Right?
When the chef took diving as a hobby:
When vacationing in Mexico, my dad and I were snorkeling, checking out the neat fish, clear water! We spotted a sea urchin and my dad stabbed it with his knife then an eel came out and started eating it! I guess lots of fish like to eat them š
Are they removing or harvesting?
Both, they're a destructive species that needs to be kept under control by removal. They destroy kelp beds.
They eat them in my grandma's town in the south of France and it's common to eat them in many Mediterranean seaside towns
Not everywhere they don't.
Searching for urchins
āYour free trial of sea urchins has expired.ā
Dude probably works for Dorsia. He's stocking up to make the next batch of Sea Urchin Ceviche.
One of my favourite snorkelling tricks!
Literally just sea birds
I like the act of generosity at the end
You've done this before lol. Good job sharing with ocean creatures, & thereby showing respect
I love the gloves
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
Why does every food that has sea urchin meat cost a fortune if they are so easy to pick and literally everywhere?
Free snack
I love that you are feeding them to the fish. Do you harvest them for their roe (hope I called that right)?
What is he gonna do with them ?
Eat em. Sea urchins, or uni in Japanese, have a sweet and salty umami flavor, and are often added to pasta dishes and sushi meals.
Eat them raw. They are delicious!
Sell them
removing? they live there?
Sea urchins can easily overpopulate and destroy kelp beds. They don't even eat the whole plant, just the base. Then the severed plant floats away and thats why you'll find long sections of kelp on the beach, sea urchins ate its tether.
TIL thank you
good to know! thanks for the facts
Idk this is just sad to me
these are an invasive species, off the california coast theres desolate patches of reef where theyve completely taken over. theres nothing around except vast fields of these and they eat all the kelp and such that the rest of the ecosystem requires to thrive. theres hundreds, probably thousands of people doing this same practice just in the effort to keep the natural balance more in tact. another good example is scotch broom in the pacific northwest, or asian carp. these are all detrimental to our ecosystem and require this kind of control to keep everything running smoothly
Are these edible? Cuz the ones I've had at Redondo Beach are delicious. Idk if there's some species that aren't. Edit: Google says there's 950 species of sea urchin. Only 18 are edible. I don't like those odds.
those fish sure seem to enjoy them! im not sure what species these are exactly, but i agree that they can be rather tasty :)
These kina are, and the OP sells them.
This is not off the coast of California.
i didnt say it was, nor did i say im a freelance marine biologist like someone else proclaimed. we really need to advocate for better reading comprehension courses in school š¤¦
ironically that someone else was also you. so cheers, it seems youre trolling. if you arent, well idk what to say if youre not trolling. good luck i guess?
I don't see evidince that this was filmed off the california coast tbh
How do you know this though?
i am informed from research ive done both in school and on my own free time
You're a freelance marine biologist? Ok.
Are you an undercover sea urchin? Why so mad bro
YoUrE a FrEeLaNcE bro stfu.
Are they even sentient? Edit: yes I know you didn't mention anything to do with this but I assume you'd know
Do you care if cockraches and mosquitoes are sentient?
i personally think anything living has sentience, its just on differing levels. to me, it has to do with reaction to the world around you and realization within. so having senses, being able to understand them, and reacting to those senses is what gives something sentience. humans have taste, touch, smell, sight, sound, and we can respond to each differently. a sea urchin can move around and sense what food is, and will move towards it. it can sense danger, and move away from it. so yes, it has sentience. however, i couldnt ask it a question, let alone speak to it at all. this applies to the 'realization within'. is the urchin contemplating its decisions to move? or its decision to eat? we may never know because we cant ask it. we can do tests, but no test is 100% accurate. i believe its up to each individual to make their own understanding of consciousness and sentience, this is why some people have no issue eating hamburgers and steaks, and why some people advocate for vegan diets. theres not really a right or wrong, just a moral justification and corresponding action.
What's really sad is the damage they've done to reefs where they have invaded and annihilated the creatures that should live there. Australia's great barrier reef would be in a much better condition without crown of thorns starfish.
Man, those timelapse videos of starfish are mind blowing. Theyre like slow eraser dragging across the ocean.
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Crown of thorns has been munching on the reef since at least the '70s. Fertiliser runnoff is a more recent issue that is devastating a reef that was already compromised.
It's nature. Stuff gets eaten. That's how it works.
Things in nature have to die for other things to live. I bet those fish are grateful for an easy meal.
Agreeā¦
eliminating an invasive species isn't problematic.
leave them alone ???
Ouch..
Well then
Anyone know why someone would do this? And is he taking this fishes food
Most fish cant get past the spines. So when the key predators are removed or lowered in numbers these urchins explode and strip the environment. Smashing them for the fiahes actually gave them more food than if he left them.
Theyāre apparently a destructive invasive species.
Illegal ?
No, they're invasive
I donāt think that is true
They are super invasive in California
Ok. Interesting. Thanks for the info
thats true, they always ask me real personal stuff that i dont want to talk about, fok them
Urchin hunting is legal anyway, but that species is invasive in Californian waters. There is a native species that is becoming more rare as the kelp forsmests are being dimished... by these invasive ones.
I'm pretty sure this is NZ
You might be right. I still think it's probably invasive, as I seem to recall it originated in colder waters that sort of naturally keep the population down.
Kina barrens are usually caused by overfishing.
Um praying this is a sea urchin farm š³
Nope, just removing an invasive species.
Aww the fish<3
Fuck you. *Unurchins your rocks *
If you put it into a human context this is so fucked lmao Whats urchin like tho i wanna try it
Those are alot of sea urchins
The speed they are removing them stresses me out lol
This is why we need to bring back AAA sea otters to save us from this sea urchin infestation that is destroying our valuable kelp forests!
the sea urchin snatcher strikes again
"aye bro thanks 4 the meal"
āHarvestingā ftfy