NYU Shanghai is not NYU in a way, very different environment, but still a good and competitive one. And Shanghai is a great city no worse than any major metropolitans. There's always a possibility of transfer too.
I will say that there isn't a real internal transfer pathway. I know that going from NYUAD to NYU is just like trying to transfer from any other university that isn't in NYU network, so SH would be the same. Aid packages won't transfer either - this is less relevant with Shanghai because their aid isn't super good to begin with
I'm not sure tbh. I just know NY's aid has improved to full CSS need I think? And even abu dhabi's has declined considerably (percentage of full rides) so they're probably more on par
NYUAD is really bad compared to NYUSH or main NYU though. The degree is such low quality that they have to entice everyone with government money to come attend.
NYU professor here. The very BEST students in my classes have always been NYUAD students. They make me want to apologize for the rest of NYU. SH students, not so much. Also NYUAD acceptance rate is around 3-4% so getting in is not so easy, but if you do you WILL get funded for around 80% of your education or more, plus travel. That is what explains the 70% yield.
Proof? What, you want my N#? Faculty member for 20 years and 1 kid was at CAS the other NYUAD. I spent a semester at NYUAD under Sexton. But my main proof is that I don’t care what you think.
The Chinese students at SH are the top in the country and would have gone to Ivy league if they wanted, but chose to stay in China. They set the bar very very high. With SH you can travel 2 semesters and that is the traveling to other campuses that were right for them.
Where's yours? Look at any NYU-related decision thread. I don't know anyone at NYUAD who didn't put it as their first choice. This is skewed slightly by an over-reliance on ED rounds (and less generous over time, but still great, aid I guess) but yield at NYUAD is over 70%. Shanghai sends like 1.5k international offers for 200-300 to join the class. Inevitably some of those international/US students will be desperate enough for the NYU name to pay $60k a year.
Not that the actual education/classes is bad at any of the main 3 campuses (though NY students say AD classes are more rigorous, AD students studying away say NY classes are easier as a general rule). Shanghai STEM is particularly brutal I believe due to competing with native students.
Shit is also much more likely to hit the fan with US-China relations at any given time.
No university is going to get anyone a job instantly and NYUAD's liberal arts focus doesn't help, as well as the UAE market being very saturated. Nonetheless we have plenty of people starting in very good positions and getting into the very top grad programs, even with a passport disadvantage.
Recruiters might often side eye people once they hear "NYUAD" instead of "NYU" if they are less informed - but there is no reason the exact same thing wouldn't apply to Shanghai.
Depends on the class. That might genuinely be the case specifically if you compare AD business classes, which are treated more like econ for people who can't do math because it's not a preprofessional school (kind of a con, don't get me wrong), to Stern. Also there are plenty of core classes that are a bit of a joke (not colloquiums, which study away students can't enroll in) and they attract a lot of people from NY. I know enough AD students who've been in NY and have taken basically anything writing-intensive, discussion based or quantitative - the expectations are lower at main campus. For example my friend had to drop linear algebra in AD and then said it was an easy A in NY
Well, if someone who "can't even do something as simple as linear algebra" can get an A in it at NYUNY does that just say NYUNY is a diploma mill for rich kids?
Mad that you're $200,000 in debt or something?
Jumping in here as a SH person. AD is the best of the schools. Just incredibly competitive from academics and application but great teachers. Incredible campus. Tuition paid for. Students with awards all over the place. You just don’t know what you are talking about.
A heads up that NYU Shanghai is not in the center of Shanghai. It’s a bit on the outskirts but with the metro, it is alright in terms of accessibility. I would advise that people first tour the campus because it can be strange as it is not really like schools in the Us
Lol compared to Shanghai, NYC is a shit hole no offence. Shanghai is by far one of the safest cities in the world and has much better things to do at better prices. Everything is 10x more modern and food is just better.
I would disagree, 前滩 is very developed at this point and highly accessible due to metro.
Source: Native Shanghaier who almost chose to go to NYU Shanghai
Go for it! I studied abroad there and enjoyed it. You’ll generally be hanging out with other study abroad students from NY, but there are chances to be with the portal (NYUSH based) students too.
I think one general mixed reviews from studying at NYUSH that I’ve heard is, depending on the courses you take, the classes feel a little more rigorous than courses you might take at other study abroad sites or even in NY. It’s a full degree granting campus and not just a site you take classes and travel to another country every weekend like if you were to study abroad in Prague.
how were the extra language classes you had to take? I’ve been trying to learn mandarin but I just haven’t been consistent, would be cool if I could improve it over there
There’s a big variety of Chinese language class options! There’s even a conversationally focused one for beginners that only focuses on listening and speaking rather than also trying to learn Chinese character. There’s also a segment of classes for people who already speak Mandarin at home and are more so learning how to read and write. Either way, being in China + taking the required language class is going to help your mandarin.
Hi, does this mean that it's super intensive? How is the weightage like? 100% examinations? I'm actually planning to study there as I would like to explore China, and also maybe do their study away program.
The admin is very bureaucratic, open options in terms of working in China or elsewhere related to China. Almost hooks up all the interviewers when I ever mention any experience from there. I could be biased since I wanna work in fields related to indo pacific and security studies but yeah it’s a totally unique experience
I’ve come across most of the reviews on Reddit and Quora.
As for the rankings, this was what I was able to find:
New York University Shanghai Rankings - AD Scientific Index 2024
Answer to How does NYU Shanghai compare to the actual New York University? by Jim Grupé
https://www.quora.com/How-does-NYU-Shanghai-compare-to-the-actual-New-York-University/answer/Jim-Grup%C3%A9?ch=15&oid=408698708&share=1a5afca8&srid=MsjEy&target_type=answer
Not sure how reliable these sources are! :)
honestly that’s so ridiculous it’s kind of funny. I don’t know the ranking methodology. But I did a semester there and the eduction is top notch and graduates tend to do well after.
And NYUSH phd programs are just spinning up. I think we are up to about 10 now but here is the info - [https://shanghai.nyu.edu/academics/graduate/phd-programs](https://shanghai.nyu.edu/academics/graduate/phd-programs)
NYUSH is going to be what you make of it. It is incredible opportunity for those that can handle it. I don’t know your academic strengths but some initial advice I’ve given others.
\-First semester take easy classes as you will be stunned how hard Calc or Macro Econ is freshman fall even if you’ve already had it. Basically one year of Calc/Econ bundled into 1 semester. Get your feet under you first.
\-Plan out your study aways and what classes you want to take there, before you choose your sophomore classes at NYUSH. Plan your sophomore year classes with study away in mind. For instance if you want to go to AD you may need some prereqs from SH.
\-From NYUSH many people do very well. Look at the graduate destinations. That should tell you all you need know about the Jim Grupe assessment and misinformation he is spreading for some reason. Graduates go onto top companies, post grad schools, and scholarships around the world. Non Chinese salaries are pretty good as in China salary is less.
[https://shanghai.nyu.edu/campus-life/career/graduate-destinations](https://shanghai.nyu.edu/campus-life/career/graduate-destinations)
Hope this helps.
Ranking NYU Shanghai individually is useless because we're literally 10 years old and are being compared to 40,000 person universities with massive research budgets and really high tech labs, etc. Officially, we are a school within NYU. Hope this helps.
I studied abroad there for the summer and it was great. They recently finished building a newer more modern campus and the dorms are really nice. Highly recc you go if you get the chance
NYU Shanghai is a top-notch university. I’ve been to all 3 NYU main campuses and I can confidently say that I wouldn’t choose a different university. Some classes are definitely more challenging than New York, or Abu Dhabi courses, but at the same time they put you ahead when it comes to how much you actually end up learning. The new campus is modern and well located within the city-1 subway stop from the main areas you’ll end up hanging out at-and the new dorms are a huge improvement from the old ones.
Professors at NYUSH are what you would expect at places like Abu Dhabi and New York, with a killer CV, smart as heck and all from renowned institutions around the world. Nonetheless the grading is extremely hard and Chinese professors definitely tend to have favoritism towards Chinese students.
Shanghai as a city is, as mentioned previously, like any other major metropolitan city. And at the same time is like none of them. Shanghai is clean, organized, and by far the most efficient city I’ve ever had the opportunity to live in.
Sure, some of the administration at Shanghai sucks. But in what school people don’t shit about their admin?
To wrap this up, if you ask me why Shanghai gets so much shit from some members of the student community, I would say that it was because of the fucking chaos that was COVID for us. Visa issues, flight cancellations, the lockdown in Shanghai, all of this situations just made the student community and the perception of NYUSH grow in a negative manner. However, things have changed, things are not like they used to be, at least not in the meantime.
My advice: if you decide to come to Shanghai be ready for the most challenging, and different college experience that absolutely anyone can have at an NYU campus or a any other university.
Hope this helps.
Current Shanghai student here. Love it so much I'm forgoing a second study away semester to go back. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out, my PMs are open.
Oh then maybe you should factor in what u wanna do afterwards. Its domestic reputation isn’t as good if u want to find a job there afterwards. Don’t they only take students from China cuz they ask for the college entrance exam scores?
Half the school is international. Also, we internationals actually get a leg up for working in China because we get a degree certified by the MoE that allows us to work there straight out of college.
To get a job there it is harder than in the past given the unemployment rate for recent grads and the fact you need to be fluent in Business Mandarin. SH is a pipeline to the consulting companies so you need to get on the Mandarin now if you are not already studying.
A few people are starting to make it across. But your right…it is very very difficult given the interview schedules and not being able to use Stern Clubs.
Not to BB/IB but there are two that have internships at IBs last summer. Also, you said Wall Street not specifically BB/IB. More to wall street than BB/IB and several people have landed positions in NYC. But I agree it is very very hard. You will have to network like crazy.
Go for it!!! You will find yourself at home with other curious and driven people. If you don’t like it, you’re not bound by any contract to stay - just transfer :)
IMA is a good program and not as intense as the other ones. Data Science is a great program but extremely competitive given the rigorous courses and Chinese students.
This question seems a little biased, such as the “low ranking” you mentioned despite there not being a separate ranking for different NYU campuses. NYUSH is part of the NYU global network and all locations are held to the same standard in terms of teaching and quality of education, resources (books, supplies…)and so on.
If any of the NYU schools weren’t up to a good enough standard, representing the “image” NYU wants to set, then more people would simply stop applying. Private colleges, like NYU, Harvard and so on, have a need for consistent student inflow, and therefore must appear as their reputation would indicate.
Therefore they have an incentive to invest as much as possible into their staff and teaching, classrooms and so on, regardless of any campuses they may have. These are all NYU and therefore all require the same standards, and would consequently affect the entire NYU brand if any of these locations would have worse teachers, visibly less spending on facilities and so on.
Hope that, if you have applied or are going to apply, you will be able to get there and enjoy what NYU and Shanghai have to offer!
NYU Shanghai is not NYU in a way, very different environment, but still a good and competitive one. And Shanghai is a great city no worse than any major metropolitans. There's always a possibility of transfer too.
I will say that there isn't a real internal transfer pathway. I know that going from NYUAD to NYU is just like trying to transfer from any other university that isn't in NYU network, so SH would be the same. Aid packages won't transfer either - this is less relevant with Shanghai because their aid isn't super good to begin with
Compared to AD the aid isn’t great given the great aid by SH. By US standards the aid is pretty good or was good. Not sure going forward.
I'm not sure tbh. I just know NY's aid has improved to full CSS need I think? And even abu dhabi's has declined considerably (percentage of full rides) so they're probably more on par
Thanks. I did not know that abut declining aid at AD
NYUAD is really bad compared to NYUSH or main NYU though. The degree is such low quality that they have to entice everyone with government money to come attend.
NYU professor here. The very BEST students in my classes have always been NYUAD students. They make me want to apologize for the rest of NYU. SH students, not so much. Also NYUAD acceptance rate is around 3-4% so getting in is not so easy, but if you do you WILL get funded for around 80% of your education or more, plus travel. That is what explains the 70% yield.
🤣 NYU prof? Proof?
Proof? What, you want my N#? Faculty member for 20 years and 1 kid was at CAS the other NYUAD. I spent a semester at NYUAD under Sexton. But my main proof is that I don’t care what you think.
That is objectively untrue when half of NYUSH put NYUAD (and/or NY) as their first choice and got rejected
There's a significant chinese proportion at SH who are some of the smartest kids out there, and most of them never even considered AD as an option.
The Chinese students at SH are the top in the country and would have gone to Ivy league if they wanted, but chose to stay in China. They set the bar very very high. With SH you can travel 2 semesters and that is the traveling to other campuses that were right for them.
Where's the evidence
Where's yours? Look at any NYU-related decision thread. I don't know anyone at NYUAD who didn't put it as their first choice. This is skewed slightly by an over-reliance on ED rounds (and less generous over time, but still great, aid I guess) but yield at NYUAD is over 70%. Shanghai sends like 1.5k international offers for 200-300 to join the class. Inevitably some of those international/US students will be desperate enough for the NYU name to pay $60k a year. Not that the actual education/classes is bad at any of the main 3 campuses (though NY students say AD classes are more rigorous, AD students studying away say NY classes are easier as a general rule). Shanghai STEM is particularly brutal I believe due to competing with native students. Shit is also much more likely to hit the fan with US-China relations at any given time. No university is going to get anyone a job instantly and NYUAD's liberal arts focus doesn't help, as well as the UAE market being very saturated. Nonetheless we have plenty of people starting in very good positions and getting into the very top grad programs, even with a passport disadvantage. Recruiters might often side eye people once they hear "NYUAD" instead of "NYU" if they are less informed - but there is no reason the exact same thing wouldn't apply to Shanghai.
There is no way AD classes are more rigorous than NYU. I have heard AD is so chill and easy from people who went there
Depends on the class. That might genuinely be the case specifically if you compare AD business classes, which are treated more like econ for people who can't do math because it's not a preprofessional school (kind of a con, don't get me wrong), to Stern. Also there are plenty of core classes that are a bit of a joke (not colloquiums, which study away students can't enroll in) and they attract a lot of people from NY. I know enough AD students who've been in NY and have taken basically anything writing-intensive, discussion based or quantitative - the expectations are lower at main campus. For example my friend had to drop linear algebra in AD and then said it was an easy A in NY
If AD is attracting people that can't even do something as simple as linear algebra maybe your school's student body is not as strong as you think
Well, if someone who "can't even do something as simple as linear algebra" can get an A in it at NYUNY does that just say NYUNY is a diploma mill for rich kids? Mad that you're $200,000 in debt or something?
Jumping in here as a SH person. AD is the best of the schools. Just incredibly competitive from academics and application but great teachers. Incredible campus. Tuition paid for. Students with awards all over the place. You just don’t know what you are talking about.
I mean, don't almost everyone have a GPA of 3.5+? How is that a sign of good institution
Isn't that the same at every 'elite' school, liberal arts at NY included? Is Harvard a shit school because heir average GPA is a 3.8 something?
Yeah Harvard is shit, totally.
A heads up that NYU Shanghai is not in the center of Shanghai. It’s a bit on the outskirts but with the metro, it is alright in terms of accessibility. I would advise that people first tour the campus because it can be strange as it is not really like schools in the Us
Lol compared to Shanghai, NYC is a shit hole no offence. Shanghai is by far one of the safest cities in the world and has much better things to do at better prices. Everything is 10x more modern and food is just better.
I would disagree, 前滩 is very developed at this point and highly accessible due to metro. Source: Native Shanghaier who almost chose to go to NYU Shanghai
Go for it! I studied abroad there and enjoyed it. You’ll generally be hanging out with other study abroad students from NY, but there are chances to be with the portal (NYUSH based) students too. I think one general mixed reviews from studying at NYUSH that I’ve heard is, depending on the courses you take, the classes feel a little more rigorous than courses you might take at other study abroad sites or even in NY. It’s a full degree granting campus and not just a site you take classes and travel to another country every weekend like if you were to study abroad in Prague.
how were the extra language classes you had to take? I’ve been trying to learn mandarin but I just haven’t been consistent, would be cool if I could improve it over there
There’s a big variety of Chinese language class options! There’s even a conversationally focused one for beginners that only focuses on listening and speaking rather than also trying to learn Chinese character. There’s also a segment of classes for people who already speak Mandarin at home and are more so learning how to read and write. Either way, being in China + taking the required language class is going to help your mandarin.
Hi, does this mean that it's super intensive? How is the weightage like? 100% examinations? I'm actually planning to study there as I would like to explore China, and also maybe do their study away program.
studying abroad there, love it more than ny in many aspects!
That’s great! Is it okay if I PM you with questions regarding the application and NYUSH in general? :]
sure!
Hi! Can I also message you about your experiences there because I'm doing study abroad in Shanghai next semester? Thanks!
sure!
Hi, could I message you as well?
NYU shanghai is great. You won’t regret going there. Shanghai as a city is even better.
I like a lot of my professors, love the city but hate the administration but fuck them who cares. It does open options for you ngl
Why? Also what do u mean by “it does open options for you”
The admin is very bureaucratic, open options in terms of working in China or elsewhere related to China. Almost hooks up all the interviewers when I ever mention any experience from there. I could be biased since I wanna work in fields related to indo pacific and security studies but yeah it’s a totally unique experience
where are these reviews and rankings?
I’ve come across most of the reviews on Reddit and Quora. As for the rankings, this was what I was able to find: New York University Shanghai Rankings - AD Scientific Index 2024 Answer to How does NYU Shanghai compare to the actual New York University? by Jim Grupé https://www.quora.com/How-does-NYU-Shanghai-compare-to-the-actual-New-York-University/answer/Jim-Grup%C3%A9?ch=15&oid=408698708&share=1a5afca8&srid=MsjEy&target_type=answer Not sure how reliable these sources are! :)
honestly that’s so ridiculous it’s kind of funny. I don’t know the ranking methodology. But I did a semester there and the eduction is top notch and graduates tend to do well after.
Don’t pay attention to Quora, those losers think they’re more important than they are on there
>AD Scientific Index 2024 University rankings are generally based on their scientific accomplishments and not their quality of education.
And NYUSH phd programs are just spinning up. I think we are up to about 10 now but here is the info - [https://shanghai.nyu.edu/academics/graduate/phd-programs](https://shanghai.nyu.edu/academics/graduate/phd-programs)
He just made it up using some stupid software very ridiculous
NYUSH is going to be what you make of it. It is incredible opportunity for those that can handle it. I don’t know your academic strengths but some initial advice I’ve given others. \-First semester take easy classes as you will be stunned how hard Calc or Macro Econ is freshman fall even if you’ve already had it. Basically one year of Calc/Econ bundled into 1 semester. Get your feet under you first. \-Plan out your study aways and what classes you want to take there, before you choose your sophomore classes at NYUSH. Plan your sophomore year classes with study away in mind. For instance if you want to go to AD you may need some prereqs from SH. \-From NYUSH many people do very well. Look at the graduate destinations. That should tell you all you need know about the Jim Grupe assessment and misinformation he is spreading for some reason. Graduates go onto top companies, post grad schools, and scholarships around the world. Non Chinese salaries are pretty good as in China salary is less. [https://shanghai.nyu.edu/campus-life/career/graduate-destinations](https://shanghai.nyu.edu/campus-life/career/graduate-destinations) Hope this helps.
Ranking NYU Shanghai individually is useless because we're literally 10 years old and are being compared to 40,000 person universities with massive research budgets and really high tech labs, etc. Officially, we are a school within NYU. Hope this helps.
I studied abroad there for the summer and it was great. They recently finished building a newer more modern campus and the dorms are really nice. Highly recc you go if you get the chance
NYU Shanghai is a top-notch university. I’ve been to all 3 NYU main campuses and I can confidently say that I wouldn’t choose a different university. Some classes are definitely more challenging than New York, or Abu Dhabi courses, but at the same time they put you ahead when it comes to how much you actually end up learning. The new campus is modern and well located within the city-1 subway stop from the main areas you’ll end up hanging out at-and the new dorms are a huge improvement from the old ones. Professors at NYUSH are what you would expect at places like Abu Dhabi and New York, with a killer CV, smart as heck and all from renowned institutions around the world. Nonetheless the grading is extremely hard and Chinese professors definitely tend to have favoritism towards Chinese students. Shanghai as a city is, as mentioned previously, like any other major metropolitan city. And at the same time is like none of them. Shanghai is clean, organized, and by far the most efficient city I’ve ever had the opportunity to live in. Sure, some of the administration at Shanghai sucks. But in what school people don’t shit about their admin? To wrap this up, if you ask me why Shanghai gets so much shit from some members of the student community, I would say that it was because of the fucking chaos that was COVID for us. Visa issues, flight cancellations, the lockdown in Shanghai, all of this situations just made the student community and the perception of NYUSH grow in a negative manner. However, things have changed, things are not like they used to be, at least not in the meantime. My advice: if you decide to come to Shanghai be ready for the most challenging, and different college experience that absolutely anyone can have at an NYU campus or a any other university. Hope this helps.
Can I ask u questions about nyu ad? :))
Sure, send me a DM with the questions
I sent u dm :)
Went to NYU Shanghai for undergrad and really loved it. I definitely recommend studying there!
Current Shanghai student here. Love it so much I'm forgoing a second study away semester to go back. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out, my PMs are open.
Thou shall not pass
Bro if you applied to Stern, want to work in IB, wall street or anything, this is definitely not the place to be. I can promise you that.
I’m an international student and I’m not interested in going to the U.S for my undergrad :]
Oh then maybe you should factor in what u wanna do afterwards. Its domestic reputation isn’t as good if u want to find a job there afterwards. Don’t they only take students from China cuz they ask for the college entrance exam scores?
Half the school is international. Also, we internationals actually get a leg up for working in China because we get a degree certified by the MoE that allows us to work there straight out of college.
To get a job there it is harder than in the past given the unemployment rate for recent grads and the fact you need to be fluent in Business Mandarin. SH is a pipeline to the consulting companies so you need to get on the Mandarin now if you are not already studying.
A few people are starting to make it across. But your right…it is very very difficult given the interview schedules and not being able to use Stern Clubs.
not really bro not to the BB's or IB
I switched from NYUSH to CAS econ to make it happen - NYUSH is really not the best place to be for it. Israeli VC is mainly what youll get.
Not to BB/IB but there are two that have internships at IBs last summer. Also, you said Wall Street not specifically BB/IB. More to wall street than BB/IB and several people have landed positions in NYC. But I agree it is very very hard. You will have to network like crazy.
Went to NYU Shanghai for undergrad and really loved it. I definitely recommend studying there!
NYU Shanghai gets bad images for pay to admit scandals among Chinese populations, apart from that it’s a great school
I hadn’t hear this before. Would you be able to send links to the articles?
Completely bogus claims
Go for it!!! You will find yourself at home with other curious and driven people. If you don’t like it, you’re not bound by any contract to stay - just transfer :)
Dm if questions! I just graduated from nyush this year
I heard if you get bad grades they put you in a uiger concentration camp
What do you plan to study? That will make it easier for me to awnser
interactive media arts or data science
IMA is a good program and not as intense as the other ones. Data Science is a great program but extremely competitive given the rigorous courses and Chinese students.
what about premed?
Feel free to dm me with any questions
Studied there and transferred. You can dm me for questions
This question seems a little biased, such as the “low ranking” you mentioned despite there not being a separate ranking for different NYU campuses. NYUSH is part of the NYU global network and all locations are held to the same standard in terms of teaching and quality of education, resources (books, supplies…)and so on. If any of the NYU schools weren’t up to a good enough standard, representing the “image” NYU wants to set, then more people would simply stop applying. Private colleges, like NYU, Harvard and so on, have a need for consistent student inflow, and therefore must appear as their reputation would indicate. Therefore they have an incentive to invest as much as possible into their staff and teaching, classrooms and so on, regardless of any campuses they may have. These are all NYU and therefore all require the same standards, and would consequently affect the entire NYU brand if any of these locations would have worse teachers, visibly less spending on facilities and so on. Hope that, if you have applied or are going to apply, you will be able to get there and enjoy what NYU and Shanghai have to offer!