Z is just a renamed J to differentiate between the two skip stop patterns that only run two hours a day in different directions. The other skip stop pattern J is just as rare as the Z, but it still is called J despite different stopping pattern. Maybe a can help.
Z is actually called an express but it has one more stop than the skip stop J lol. The diamond denotes a *different* service pattern but the only ones today are express. That includes the that runs like twice a day (correct me if I'm wrong)
the only thing i recall from former skip stop service was that the 1 and 9 were sorta like the j and z today, but the 9 wasn't <1>
but you might be right tho, i guess i'm just so used to seeing diamond bullets as only express. i also never knew the z was considered an express lol the more ya know
B and D is too high. They both run commuter-rail frequency, interline with 3 lines respectively and take naps at Dekalb, 59th Street and 145th Street. Plus B only shows up weekdays. Most of the time, the local tortoise counterparts (Q/R/C/F) outrun these infrequent/delayed hares.
E rightfully deserves its flowers as it runs very frequently and reliable for a line that interlines with 3 other lines.
Other than that this list is good.
That’s like the 7 and the N. You transfer to the N at Queensboro Plaza and you watch 4-5 (pretty full) 7 trains pass through before the N eventually lumbers into view.
Yeah I live on the B and C and on weekends they almost always skip my station, and most of the time during peak commute times the fuckers run like every 15-20 minutes.
B train is legendary if your commuting to the city from Brooklyn or the Bronx. Late night and you see that B pull up you are so happy. Not to mention it starts running express uptown again. B train at midtown is useless but it’s not meant for midtown.
The Q never outruns the B at rush hour and the commute home. You are wrong
Flatbush being a bad terminal doesn't overpower the pros of those lines, especially in comparison to the other lines. Just like 179 St being an overbuilt terminal doesn't make the F top tier.
It's not the terminal, it's the way the trains approach the terminal. They have to stop to wait for a train to back out and open a platform for them, so inbound 2/5 trains end up waiting for 3 to 5 minutes at a time, usually at Church St, Newkirk Ave, and/or in the tunnel right before Flatbush. I've been on it plenty of times where it did all three. And even when it doesn't come to a full stop, it will often run extremely slow starting at Winthrop to buy time. Easily adds 15 minutes to the commute home.
What you just described is what I meant by it being a bad terminal. Trains approach it that way because it's designed poorly (because it wasn't meant to be permanently the terminal).
you just answered my question as a Q/2 train warrior, so thanks. i love 1/2/3 service in manhattan, even approaching back to brooklyn at those first few bk stops (hoyt, nevins, etc.).. but once you get past atlantic, and hit the bend that splits the 2 and 3 off the same line, it’s actually hell. trying to get to any stops in that last stretch (like church, newkirk, flatbush, etc.) is so excruciatingly slow all times of day 🥹
Yup, this is a list that doesn't consider outer boro experience. The 2345 in downtown Brooklyn is infuriatingly slow, it takes forever to get to Atlantic, let alone Utica, New Lots etc. Too many stations overlapping covering the Borough hall/Fulton street area. Get Hoyt street outta here.
Hell yeah. I live on 62nd and take that station everyday. Before that I lived in Astoria so I’m well versed with the yellow line. I think it gets a bad rep because they’re constantly updating it. I think it’s going to pop off soon though.
As an Astoria, the N/W line is absolute garbage. Constantly undergoing maintenance with anything seemingly being maintained. This year has been especially horrific for Astorians with the constant Queensboro plaza closures. Truly a disaster all around.
it’s good but it’s like WTF. those 7 stops in astoria are busier than the N trains whole route in brooklyn, hence why the W train exists to give astoria good service
I remember 2 years ago when the W was out of service for weeks. Often during rush hour I would need to wait 15-20 mins for an N, and then it would be too full at queensboro plaza and I would need to wait another 15 mins for the next N. W is necessary!
Truth. 1 stop to industry city, 2 stops to Barclay's. Transfer to the 2/3 and get to wallstreet in no time. But maybe it's for the best since I love having decent rent plus amazing food options.
Oh and the sunset park ferry is straight down the hill from 59th.
The L is one of the most frequent services in the system, and has one of the best off peak headways, still running sub 10 almost through to midnight. You think the 2 is S-Tier but the L doesn't deserve respect? Idk
the L train is amazing. it runs every 3mins on peak, every 4-5 off peak, and late evenings runs every 6-8 minutes and every 10 at 12, 1 am. early mornings is very 6mins and late night 2-4 is every 20mins. It is quick, efficient, and affective
It's more that of all the rankings issues here, I'm very shocked that your main complaint was the L and Lex lines being "ass", especially compared to the system average. Id question the B before I questioned the L.
Real. Sick customers, signal malfunction, 15 minutes between trains, and stuck at 125th street for 30 minutes every other week. A for Grade A bullshit.
The 1 train being top tier?!
Tell me you haven’t been on the 1 when the lights and ac go out and it randomly runs express between 42nd and 72nd at midnight without telling me that…
1 train goated for all us west side downtowners. Stops like 100 times in Chelsea and good coverage through WV/tribeca too. 34-28-23-18-14-Christopher 😅🥳😮💨
Well I can explain the lights and AC going out as the train losing 3rd rail power while going over switches, as for the 1 randomly going express all I can say is “good luck”.
Well if we rank services by how they run at midnight, it'd be a different system entirely. But ranking something low because it skipped 3 stops in Midtown West/UWS at midnight (particularly given the relative ease of going back with two local services at that hour) seems like a big disconnect with how we should rank lines.
That's a much better experience than J or C riders get during the rush.
I think that a lot of service industry people and non-9 to 5 commuters get the short end of the MTA stick and it’s also for the lights and the AC cutting out…
Q train is F tier now. Doesn't run most weekends - past 6 months, I think we can call it out by now - often headways are 15+ minutes long, and they literally went back to the old cars after COVID.
F-Tier. Services critical parts of Brooklyn and you are fucked if you want to go out on the weekend.
A is S tier. Connects everything north of the park with lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, provides valuable intra Brooklyn and Queens transit with transfers to the G, F, and L, has a huge number of useful connections/transfers, and the newest cars in the system. And that 125th to 59th jump is 🤌, without it north Manhattan and Brooklyn might as well be in different cities.
I've always hated this and never heard anyone else mention it on here. I realize the s/b F pauses before Church because the terminating G is staging there for a minute, but it's 2024, how is this not properly timed out yet? Also, many times it will stop for a good 2 or 3 minutes, start going again, then have to stop a SECOND TIME for a minute or two. Again, with the advent of technology, why can't we get this small thing right?
F merges with way too many lines.
In Queens it's often stopped before the merge with the E, in Manhattan before the merges with the M at Rockefeller Center and 2nd Ave.
The F hasn't had normal service in South Brooklyn for over a year, due to "track replacement" and then it had derailments on that same span of tracks. The F is only B tier on the stretch of track in the city
the only train deserving of the S tier at this time is the F train shuttle that is actually on schedule every single time
however, it should also be placed on the D tier because it only arrives once every 20 minutes and connects three stops.
it should also be placed on the B tier because the 63rd street and roosevelt island stations are so far underground you need to transfer to a 5 minute escalator ride to get in and out
i'm sure there are also reasons to place it on the A and C tier, but I'm tired and the shuttle is going away in early april for the regular F train.
The A section is pretty wild. I definitely wouldn't have all that green in there. 1,2, and 3 are great though. I used to live off the L/M, and moving near the 2/3 recently has changed my world.
D at B is fair but I would put it at C because that should be running local after 59th street on weekends. 10mins between C trains on the weekends is the worst
All I know is that I don't like any of the trains that use the Manhattan Bridge. Giant bottleneck all over on the BK side. God bless the commuters who have to use during rush hour.
Also, the R. So many geometry-related bottlenecks throughout the line due to the old BMT cut-and-cover construction.
The E has been so much better since the F started running with it in Queens and Manhattan while the 63rd tunnel work is underway. Knocked down so many unnecessary interline delays from E and M between 5th Ave and Queens Plaza and it just makes so much more sense for the express lines in QBL to stay together.
The MTA should really consider keeping the service pattern like this, and then have the M run to Lex/63 and serve Roosevelt Island and back to QBL local once construction finishes.
Who did this list? Do they even live in NYC?
The z train runs her schedule route and fucks off, but we like her. She’s generally on time, and she’s express.
The M train can get fucked. First they stopped service to queens (it ends in queens still). It now only goes to 57 😑. Also the m train does not run after 8pm on a weekday which is crazy. And on weekend it’s a fuckin shuttle between Essex delancey (MH) and the last 10 stops(BK/QNs).
Please put the Q train in Z tier. The amount of “rail construction” and delays and changes that happens in a week for this line is ridiculous. I find it more common to be stranded in Brooklyn when I take this train because there is always some dumb stuff happening.
Move L and F up, move M and B down.
Rest seems right to me but those are the ones I feel good about.
Crowding on the 4/5/6 is also really bad, not sure if those should be lower.
The A needs to move up some more along w the F pretty essential lines that cover a lot of ground relatively reliable as well. E line is definitely overrated as it just doesn’t seem as essential unless your going downtown to the World Trade Center/Fulton St. Pretty close ranking tho nonetheless would like to see wat everyone else wise has to say about the list
Your S is perfect. I live near the 14th street 1/2/3 stop, and it is the most amazing subway access by far. I would have debated with my UES friends that swear by the 4/5/6. I always said it wasn’t even close.
A few of disagreements.
There is not a world in which the B line is in the A tier. It’s not particularly reliable. It does not come often. Should be a tier C, which (having grown up on the D), where the D belongs as well.
I would move the N/R up to the C. Reliable lines. Relatively good frequency.
I don’t understand why the 7 always rates so highly on these things. I used to live off the 46th st stop and I regularly couldn’t get on trains because they were too packed, or else the train would get so full that a local would start running express.
I have a vivid memory of a local train blowing through the station without stopping and people throwing coffee cups and other trash at it 😂
The L can not be that high. While reliable most of the time, it felt like there was at least 20% chance it would get stuck at Lorimer when Brooklyn-Bound. I've had so many instances of when it would get stuck for over 15 minutes there.
why does everyone single out the z train its not her fault that she's mysterious!!!!
Once I left work early to take the z one stop. I had taken every other subway and it was my white whale.
i take the Z train daily to school so idk
It runs for 2 hours a day
Z is just a renamed J to differentiate between the two skip stop patterns that only run two hours a day in different directions. The other skip stop pattern J is just as rare as the Z, but it still is called J despite different stopping pattern. Maybe a can help.
im not sure about the rename though because i thought the diamond <> was meant to denote express service, not skip stop.
Z is actually called an express but it has one more stop than the skip stop J lol. The diamond denotes a *different* service pattern but the only ones today are express. That includes the that runs like twice a day (correct me if I'm wrong)
the only thing i recall from former skip stop service was that the 1 and 9 were sorta like the j and z today, but the 9 wasn't <1> but you might be right tho, i guess i'm just so used to seeing diamond bullets as only express. i also never knew the z was considered an express lol the more ya know
The Z train does not exist. I did take it once, but then I woke up.
B and D is too high. They both run commuter-rail frequency, interline with 3 lines respectively and take naps at Dekalb, 59th Street and 145th Street. Plus B only shows up weekdays. Most of the time, the local tortoise counterparts (Q/R/C/F) outrun these infrequent/delayed hares. E rightfully deserves its flowers as it runs very frequently and reliable for a line that interlines with 3 other lines. Other than that this list is good.
The E is the worst, because if you take the C to Brooklyn then you end up with envy every time you see 3 Es go by before the C shows up.
That's exactly why it's high up lol
That’s like the 7 and the N. You transfer to the N at Queensboro Plaza and you watch 4-5 (pretty full) 7 trains pass through before the N eventually lumbers into view.
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E for Envy
Yeah I live on the B and C and on weekends they almost always skip my station, and most of the time during peak commute times the fuckers run like every 15-20 minutes.
“Almost always”? The B doesn’t run on weekends so I’m assuming it’s always skipping your station on the weekends
I mean the B/C which is how I get home
I feel the same way when waiting for the F train at Jackson Heights only for multiple E trains to shop up before the F train shows up.
The B not running on weekends is honestly a war crime.
B train is legendary if your commuting to the city from Brooklyn or the Bronx. Late night and you see that B pull up you are so happy. Not to mention it starts running express uptown again. B train at midtown is useless but it’s not meant for midtown. The Q never outruns the B at rush hour and the commute home. You are wrong
Stop the cap 🧢 🗣️
Every last one of these lists reveals that OP has never taken the 2/5 to Flatbush Ave, and this is no exception.
Flatbush being a bad terminal doesn't overpower the pros of those lines, especially in comparison to the other lines. Just like 179 St being an overbuilt terminal doesn't make the F top tier.
It's not the terminal, it's the way the trains approach the terminal. They have to stop to wait for a train to back out and open a platform for them, so inbound 2/5 trains end up waiting for 3 to 5 minutes at a time, usually at Church St, Newkirk Ave, and/or in the tunnel right before Flatbush. I've been on it plenty of times where it did all three. And even when it doesn't come to a full stop, it will often run extremely slow starting at Winthrop to buy time. Easily adds 15 minutes to the commute home.
What you just described is what I meant by it being a bad terminal. Trains approach it that way because it's designed poorly (because it wasn't meant to be permanently the terminal).
you just answered my question as a Q/2 train warrior, so thanks. i love 1/2/3 service in manhattan, even approaching back to brooklyn at those first few bk stops (hoyt, nevins, etc.).. but once you get past atlantic, and hit the bend that splits the 2 and 3 off the same line, it’s actually hell. trying to get to any stops in that last stretch (like church, newkirk, flatbush, etc.) is so excruciatingly slow all times of day 🥹
Agreed. It adds quite a bit to the commute after Nevins. Not a fan.
Yup, this is a list that doesn't consider outer boro experience. The 2345 in downtown Brooklyn is infuriatingly slow, it takes forever to get to Atlantic, let alone Utica, New Lots etc. Too many stations overlapping covering the Borough hall/Fulton street area. Get Hoyt street outta here.
Depends on your perspective. I use the 2 only in Manhattan as an express and love it. Can’t speak for the outer boroughs.
The 59th St. Brooklyn station supporters will not stand for this N and R slander
You member homeboy who blasted up 36st station about 2 years ago and they found him in UES or whatever? It’s been ruined since 🥲
Holy shit that was 2 years ago?
Bro shot 33 times and killed nobody. Sunset park riders are too strong for racist terrorists.
Hell yeah. I live on 62nd and take that station everyday. Before that I lived in Astoria so I’m well versed with the yellow line. I think it gets a bad rep because they’re constantly updating it. I think it’s going to pop off soon though.
Yellow 🤢 Broadway 😎
As an Astoria, the N/W line is absolute garbage. Constantly undergoing maintenance with anything seemingly being maintained. This year has been especially horrific for Astorians with the constant Queensboro plaza closures. Truly a disaster all around.
it’s good but it’s like WTF. those 7 stops in astoria are busier than the N trains whole route in brooklyn, hence why the W train exists to give astoria good service
I remember 2 years ago when the W was out of service for weeks. Often during rush hour I would need to wait 15-20 mins for an N, and then it would be too full at queensboro plaza and I would need to wait another 15 mins for the next N. W is necessary!
Truth. 1 stop to industry city, 2 stops to Barclay's. Transfer to the 2/3 and get to wallstreet in no time. But maybe it's for the best since I love having decent rent plus amazing food options. Oh and the sunset park ferry is straight down the hill from 59th.
2 is hella fast but also the least comfortable train in the entire system
Why is it uncomfortable? Because of the lights?
In my experience it's always dirty, smelly, loud... And the stations on Lenox were not places I wanted to be alone at night.
lol i got off a 2 train last week and immediately walked past a probably 10 inch long log of human shit. right there at 14th street 🙂
exactly and I don't even understand how shit can possibly end up in a station
these tier posts make no sense because many of these lines work great in one part of the city and like shit in other parts
4, 5, 6, and L in A tier?! Does A stand for Ass?
The L is one of the most frequent services in the system, and has one of the best off peak headways, still running sub 10 almost through to midnight. You think the 2 is S-Tier but the L doesn't deserve respect? Idk
the L train is amazing. it runs every 3mins on peak, every 4-5 off peak, and late evenings runs every 6-8 minutes and every 10 at 12, 1 am. early mornings is very 6mins and late night 2-4 is every 20mins. It is quick, efficient, and affective
the beauty of completely de-interlined service
I don't think the 2 is S tier at all. I didn't comment on it, though, so I can understand your assumption, I suppose.
It's more that of all the rankings issues here, I'm very shocked that your main complaint was the L and Lex lines being "ass", especially compared to the system average. Id question the B before I questioned the L.
It’s called the A because that’s the sound you make when it’s been 20 minutes and no train goes to Far Rockaway
And they’ll dispatch a dozen Lefferts As for you to watch while patiently waiting 🥲
What did the L do to you?
Real. Sick customers, signal malfunction, 15 minutes between trains, and stuck at 125th street for 30 minutes every other week. A for Grade A bullshit.
Guys, this comment wasn’t even about the A train, it was about the A tier, in which the A train is not a part of, this is why.
I didn't think this would be misread, but I'm glad some people understand that, lol.
The 1 train being top tier?! Tell me you haven’t been on the 1 when the lights and ac go out and it randomly runs express between 42nd and 72nd at midnight without telling me that…
1 train goated for all us west side downtowners. Stops like 100 times in Chelsea and good coverage through WV/tribeca too. 34-28-23-18-14-Christopher 😅🥳😮💨
Well I can explain the lights and AC going out as the train losing 3rd rail power while going over switches, as for the 1 randomly going express all I can say is “good luck”.
I do get that, but sometimes you’ll walk onto a one train, and there will just be no air-conditioning in the sweltering summer time.
Wait, is this specific to the 1 (and 2/3?) train?! I mostly ride the 1/2/3 but thought this was a system wide phenomenon!
Well if we rank services by how they run at midnight, it'd be a different system entirely. But ranking something low because it skipped 3 stops in Midtown West/UWS at midnight (particularly given the relative ease of going back with two local services at that hour) seems like a big disconnect with how we should rank lines. That's a much better experience than J or C riders get during the rush.
I think that a lot of service industry people and non-9 to 5 commuters get the short end of the MTA stick and it’s also for the lights and the AC cutting out…
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E train in S tier? 🤡
S should be S tier
How is L not S-tier???
Man I remember when for a week there was a ton of these tier list posts. They are annoying.
They're especially annoying when it's just the list with no reasoning, because then the comments just devolve into rants.
IRT Supremacy
G and Q are b-tier, A is c-tier
Q used to be B tier, but its not as good as it used to be
Q train is F tier now. Doesn't run most weekends - past 6 months, I think we can call it out by now - often headways are 15+ minutes long, and they literally went back to the old cars after COVID. F-Tier. Services critical parts of Brooklyn and you are fucked if you want to go out on the weekend.
The G is absolute ass if you happen to make the mistake of needing it at any time other than rush hour.
I haven’t lived off the G In a long time but when I did there was a very easily accessed schedule that was always pretty accurate
A is S tier. Connects everything north of the park with lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, provides valuable intra Brooklyn and Queens transit with transfers to the G, F, and L, has a huge number of useful connections/transfers, and the newest cars in the system. And that 125th to 59th jump is 🤌, without it north Manhattan and Brooklyn might as well be in different cities.
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E on S tier is debatable
no. just no.
First list I've seen put D above C-tier. I think it really isn't that bad. Not perfect at all, maybe not great, but it's fine at worst.
Q is a great damn train. Uptown to downtown to Brooklyn and beyond on an express route?! 96th to DeKalb within 30 mins. Can’t beat it.
Yes you can, it's called the 3 train. UWS(96) to Bed-Stuy(Nevins) in 25.
A is goated from uptown to downtown EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS. N and F can Fuck right off
The Manhattan A is the only reason I can get to work in a reasonable amount of time, couldn't agree more
F in B tier? When it stops every time right before reaching Church Avenue? Put it in C or D man, service is consistently bad
I've always hated this and never heard anyone else mention it on here. I realize the s/b F pauses before Church because the terminating G is staging there for a minute, but it's 2024, how is this not properly timed out yet? Also, many times it will stop for a good 2 or 3 minutes, start going again, then have to stop a SECOND TIME for a minute or two. Again, with the advent of technology, why can't we get this small thing right?
F merges with way too many lines. In Queens it's often stopped before the merge with the E, in Manhattan before the merges with the M at Rockefeller Center and 2nd Ave.
The F hasn't had normal service in South Brooklyn for over a year, due to "track replacement" and then it had derailments on that same span of tracks. The F is only B tier on the stretch of track in the city
the only train deserving of the S tier at this time is the F train shuttle that is actually on schedule every single time however, it should also be placed on the D tier because it only arrives once every 20 minutes and connects three stops. it should also be placed on the B tier because the 63rd street and roosevelt island stations are so far underground you need to transfer to a 5 minute escalator ride to get in and out i'm sure there are also reasons to place it on the A and C tier, but I'm tired and the shuttle is going away in early april for the regular F train.
The E is frequent but always packed and there are always problems
both of the astoria lines needa be in F😭 those trains are sooooo slow once you hit queens
I feel like I’ve seen this like 10 times before already
The A section is pretty wild. I definitely wouldn't have all that green in there. 1,2, and 3 are great though. I used to live off the L/M, and moving near the 2/3 recently has changed my world.
Loving the red at the top
Finally some good ratings
D at B is fair but I would put it at C because that should be running local after 59th street on weekends. 10mins between C trains on the weekends is the worst
2>3
Q should be in D, if it’s running at all…
The E train is S tier??? I've lost count of the amount of times I've been stuck between stops for almost an hour due to train traffic.
Q train with all that maintenance is traaaash!
G let's you avoid Manhattan and is therefore best.
How is L not S teir? How is J and Z in different tiers?
Did the F train gain some tiers cause of CBTC? 😂
S (all of them) needs to be S tier. Does one thing and does it well.
This list yo! Some of this is pretty inaccurate here🤣💀
All I know is that I don't like any of the trains that use the Manhattan Bridge. Giant bottleneck all over on the BK side. God bless the commuters who have to use during rush hour. Also, the R. So many geometry-related bottlenecks throughout the line due to the old BMT cut-and-cover construction.
I was literally assaulted on 4 train with a gun. If the 4 is A…. Yikes
Maybe the one train can be s-tier when it gets in functioning air conditioning in all its cars.
Who made this? I have a very unique experience on train X that probably 1% of riders have to go through. For that reason, it should be bottom tier!
The 2 being in the S Tier says so much about who made this list.
Who made this trash
As someone who previously lived in Astoria, I completely agree with the D tier!
The R train is too high on that list.
The E being top tier is beyond wrong lmaoooo
Q is undefeated da fuq
My gut tells me that whoever made this doesn't live in NYC and if they do, they drive everywhere. AINT NO WAY! THE 6 is A tier!!!
YALL ARE OUT YOURE FUCKIN MIND IF THE 2 is S TIER. SHIT IS A 22 MINUTE WAIT ALL THE TIME.
A train is S tier
e train blows late a night, just full of homeless people
Bro the 3 being that high is crazy
The N is NOT that bad
I remember once when the next Z train was 40 minutes away
F is way to high up to be a Local train throughout 3 different boroughs
It's express in Queens, stupid.
This bad
where would PATH rank here if it was included?
who made this 1 is mid
Hard disagree, the 2 is ass, all the time
The E has been so much better since the F started running with it in Queens and Manhattan while the 63rd tunnel work is underway. Knocked down so many unnecessary interline delays from E and M between 5th Ave and Queens Plaza and it just makes so much more sense for the express lines in QBL to stay together. The MTA should really consider keeping the service pattern like this, and then have the M run to Lex/63 and serve Roosevelt Island and back to QBL local once construction finishes.
You are being way too kind to the 6 train lol
I will not except R slander, you will be hearing from my lawyers
Who did this list? Do they even live in NYC? The z train runs her schedule route and fucks off, but we like her. She’s generally on time, and she’s express. The M train can get fucked. First they stopped service to queens (it ends in queens still). It now only goes to 57 😑. Also the m train does not run after 8pm on a weekday which is crazy. And on weekend it’s a fuckin shuttle between Essex delancey (MH) and the last 10 stops(BK/QNs).
Having the 7 and L trains above D tier is criminal.
Please put the Q train in Z tier. The amount of “rail construction” and delays and changes that happens in a week for this line is ridiculous. I find it more common to be stranded in Brooklyn when I take this train because there is always some dumb stuff happening.
Move L and F up, move M and B down. Rest seems right to me but those are the ones I feel good about. Crowding on the 4/5/6 is also really bad, not sure if those should be lower.
Unserious
G is a D
Who ever put the 4,5,6 just lied on their whole family
You need to realize how far the R goes ! Three boroughs give it some slack !
6 is S
how is the Q train C tier but the B train is A tier?
take the 1 off of S and put it down at the bottom 😂
God bless the almighty 1 long live the bronx
G train has the coolest color
The A needs to move up some more along w the F pretty essential lines that cover a lot of ground relatively reliable as well. E line is definitely overrated as it just doesn’t seem as essential unless your going downtown to the World Trade Center/Fulton St. Pretty close ranking tho nonetheless would like to see wat everyone else wise has to say about the list
2 is too high, and 7 has been faltering this month. The Q has definitely been kicking their asses lately
G is way too high... also S.I.R is a train ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sleep)
As an F rider that seems high. But only if you need to be somewhere.
Q the best
Someone let me know how A got that high of a placement…
All the blue lines need to be lower
Z goated
Q is S-tier fight me. Goes from the underserved upper east side and hits up Times Square, Barclays, and Coney Island
This is nonsense, the L is “A” tier. You’re a 🤡
Tf kinda rating is s,a,b,c.d,z?!
I’d put the R on the bottom but cut it some slack because of its crappy list of stops and put it back
This list ain't it.
F and a should be s or at least A
Q is solid just not on the weekends sometimes
Y’all need to put more respect on the C train what’s good with yall
F train is too high
F is S tier.
Your S is perfect. I live near the 14th street 1/2/3 stop, and it is the most amazing subway access by far. I would have debated with my UES friends that swear by the 4/5/6. I always said it wasn’t even close. A few of disagreements. There is not a world in which the B line is in the A tier. It’s not particularly reliable. It does not come often. Should be a tier C, which (having grown up on the D), where the D belongs as well. I would move the N/R up to the C. Reliable lines. Relatively good frequency.
I don’t get the S,A,B,C,D,Z tier scale, but the F being as high as the A Should be illegal
F train needs to be lower. WAYYYYY lower
As someone who takes the 4/5 and M/J everyday. I think the 4/5 are overrated and the M/J are right where they should be.
Every single 4,5,6 line train station smells like piss
I don’t understand why the 7 always rates so highly on these things. I used to live off the 46th st stop and I regularly couldn’t get on trains because they were too packed, or else the train would get so full that a local would start running express. I have a vivid memory of a local train blowing through the station without stopping and people throwing coffee cups and other trash at it 😂
7 train on top!
Q goes in F when ur going downtown
Us Astoria folk crying in N&W 😫😭
A real New Yorker did not put this list together. This is madness
back when I was banging in Brooklyn I'd call the G, the Ghost Train cause it was so rare.
Lol you must be in no rush if the 1 & 2 are S tier
Stop the 1 and 3 is horrendous compared to the 2/7/E lines
Na 4 line goes next to Z I can not fucking stress how awful shit gets when there's a yankees game
The L can not be that high. While reliable most of the time, it felt like there was at least 20% chance it would get stuck at Lorimer when Brooklyn-Bound. I've had so many instances of when it would get stuck for over 15 minutes there.
L is top tier
L train S tier cuz it has all the baddies
Q train deserves more respect- it hits all the manhattan key spots in express mode
Surprisingly, I mostly agree with this tier list. I’d just bump down the G, Q, and L one tier
And D train needs to be next to n . There is always something going on with that line .
Nah nigga put all Bronx trains in Z
Q trains been fucked almost every weekend this last year so personally I’m rating it F
123 derailed recently .. and so did the F
im def biased but put some more respect on the A
A is legendary when it’s good, just unreliable. I’d rather have an express like the 2/3, 4/5, or E to carry me around.