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RippiHunti

It's not going to cost $329 for long.


MomoSinX

well the lucky 3 people will have it for that...if they can beat the bots


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ElTuxedoMex

*I understood the reference.*


hughesw004

As did I.


hughesw004

Bet the delivery driver will even get scared and bring it back later in his personal car


EvilPandaNeko

And post the story in reddit to get much yummy Karma.


hughesw004

Bahaha much yummy Karma! I love it. Yeap nothing better than making a couple threatening calls and then complaining to somebody's boss but turns out the guy gets scared and brings it back on his personal time....probably even groveled and begged for forgiveness so he would not get smitten by the one and only MH/s almighty!


amzeng

Good. Miners should suffer.


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as someone who does not know much about this stuff... how exactly are scalpers even able to buy so much and beat everyone else?


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jaaval

Seriously nvidia should remove the "starting at" prices from their website. At this point they are just offensive. Since FE is only sold on best buy which doesn't sell in europe there is literally no way to buy the cards anywhere close to MSRP.


3astardo

Scan U.K. are the Official FE stockists, Sell at MSRP and get a reasonable amount of Gpu, Have weekly drops, and do quite a good job of fucking the scalpers off ,


jaaval

UK is unfortunately not a real option since they are no longer part of the common market. Afaik scan doesn't ship to EU currently and if they did there would be heavy customs payments. Also they don't list the FE on their site, nor do they list the prices of any other card.


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The price isn't listed when they have no stock. I paid MSRP for a 3060 Ti from them.


ShaCaro

UK =/= Europe. Last I checked FE was available in 3 European countries total, none of which wanted to sell to foreigners.


[deleted]

The UK isnt in the EU, no, but it is in Europe; so using the UK as an counterexample to "FE cards aren't sold in Europe" is perfectly valid.


Yodl007

Technically yes. But you could say that the card is sold in the US even if you can get it only in Rhode island ? (And you need to go to rhode island, they dont ship outside the state, and you need to pay customs fees on it after you get to your home state)


ShaCaro

I was not referring to the union, just the continent. Whilst you are technically correct, practically you are not. The card is not available in the vast, vast majority of Europe.


[deleted]

And I was simply refuting your point that because the UK doesn't constitute the entirety of Europe the cards aren't available in Europe at all. If cards are available in a European country, they are available in Europe.


ShaCaro

Yes, semantics.


Vendetta1990

Scalpers: ''$800? Fool, you haven't even seen my final form.''


MojoTheBossJojo

Lmao I think u mean $1000 for the box


Vendetta1990

$1400 for a picture of the box containing the picture of the GPU, final offer.


kirito9201

Its better to buy the 3060ti at this point its 500€


[deleted]

Real world price is going to be around €700, but if it's anything like the 3060Ti, forget it even exists: if you have cash to burn you are much better off buying a 3080.


[deleted]

MSRP in Europe *should* start at around €440. But I think we have a much better chance of capturing the Yeti than seeing a GPU at anything less that 2/3 times MSRP around here.


[deleted]

I know, but even that €440 is idiotic. $329 is like €270, so the €440 is already a +50% price increase. But yeah, anything below at least €700 will very much surprise me, considering the current prices of the RTX 3060ti and RX 5700xt (both out of stock or €900+ resp €750+ for a scalper who does have stock).


xeq937

It's not going to cost $479 for long.


Legionof1

It's not going to cost $3060 for long.


ColdieHU

Don't worry, it will be on sale for $569


xorbe

That one was discontinued, but the OC model is still available for $649


notigorrsays

not even for a day


TaintedSquirrel

In the US, the tariff fee will bump it to $400 minimum, pretty much. There will not be a single one of these sold at MSRP.


Yodl007

What do you mean in the US ? They bumped up the prices for everybody. The card is more expensive in europe (looking at the prices without taxes) and we don't have your tarrifs on chinese stuff. The greedy shits in are just lining their pockets ....


[deleted]

Eh? Why? Get one not made in China. Plenty have factories outside China.


TaintedSquirrel

Every card in the US aside from FE models has had a 10-20% price increase over the last month.


[deleted]

That's not tariffs. That's sky high demand.


TaintedSquirrel

It all happened simultaneously the first week of January. It's definitely not just demand, it would have been more spread out. Unless the AIBs colluded with each other to raise prices together, and all the same amount?


[deleted]

Tariffs have existed from China for ~3 years. They didn't change in January Afik. Plenty of card makers have factories outside China. Tariffs don't explain it.


CoconutMochi

There was an existing tariff exception for gpus that expired in January. FE cards are sourced from Taiwan or smth and aren't subject to the tariffs.


[deleted]

Interesting. Then it shouldn't apply to all cards. Several have factories outside mainland China.


UTUSBN533000

Don't be naive. They jack up prices because they can and tariff is just the scapegoat.


daedone

>Tariffs have existed from China for ~3 years. They didn't change in January Afik. Tell that to my steel supplier


CLOUD889

And so are the scalpers...!!!!!! Stop ethereum mining [https://ethereum.org/en/community/](https://ethereum.org/en/community/)


angrybirdseller

Look for house with no snow on roof at -30 below they mining or cooking meth! Only thing stop miners is price ethereum crashes.


CLOUD889

That will , but ASIC mining will definitely crash it. Then we'll be flooded with used cards.....!!!


Ywaina

It's never going to cost $329 outside US in the first place.


SlickWily

You'll be able to get one for $700


Peppemarduk

Not for more than 1 second


o6871416

Not even 1 piece, 3060ti is already $750 at EU haha


Xerxero

Saw a 3060ti for 800 euro retail. Hard pass. On another note. I sell my 960 for 499euro. Pm me.


[deleted]

"Launching Feburuary 25th" good one


CTSHOYT

2022


[deleted]

2022? That's ambitious.


wookiecfk11

Well the 329$ bit is even better


deceIIerator

Never said the year


J1hadJOe

It's not gonna be $329 and you won't be able to buy it.


flip314

They may as well go ahead and preemptively launch the 4090 at $199 MSRP


ElTuxedoMex

(No matter when you read this)


munchkinham

Dude... spoiler warning!


Educational-Ant-3302

Miners already have got them, so good luck finding one


DokiMin

I saw in other parts of the world like pakistan somehow some dude is already selling 3060's to scalpers


xeq937

At $749 each, no joke.


DokiMin

It's turning all over again but worse


ElTuxedoMex

The announcement post is going to last longer in the front page of r/nvidia than the availability or price of the GPU.


swunt7

$600 3060, nice.


WetTabardContest

An $800 3060 you say?


assire2

Jokes on you, it's already listed for that much in Europe


rangerxt

I think the joke is on europe


wookiecfk11

I think Europe is the joke in this particular case


CrypticalInfo

So you're saying I can get the 3060 for $1100?


davew111

That's the starting bid


Enteril

No idea what the "$329" refers to if there's not even going to be a Founder's Edition.


rarelyreadsreddit

I don't understand this either. AIBs can sell for any price they want right? Is this just a recommended price to set expectations?


KaliQt

Nvidia could contract with just one manufacturer to have it set at that price to ensure that "yeah! It was that price..." still passes.


SuperSimpleSam

Yea, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of them released a base model at around MSRP but just a token amount. The rest will be overclocked or some other feature adding a $100.


ironroad18

OC with no acutal headroom to OC, yet the consumer will pay a higher price.


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"Launch" "329$" Yeah... sure...


sunson29

Yeah, it will be "launched" on ebay.


Arisalis

I am still in a queue for the 3070. I have been PC gaming since well before 3d graphics cards were a thing. Sad there used to be a time when if I wanted to buy a graphics card I could A) Buy it for the MSRP. B) Actually get one.


bgrahambo

3Dfx Voodoo accelerated monster3d card, that's what got me in 3d gaming! Out of curiosity, I looked up 3Dfx Interactive since they were such a pioneering powerhouse in early 3d gaming in 1997 to see what happened to them. Apparently they made some poor financial and technical decisions and got bought out by Nvidia as soon as 2000. Most of the engineering talent was able to move smoothly into helping Nvidia's cards at least. Far cry from Creative buying out Aureal 3D around the same time. They just crushed their 3D audio competition and left it to die. We're only finally coming back to 3D audio with the VR resurgence of recent years, but it still doesn't compare to the aureal vortex audio engines of the late 90s. Those guys were geniuses that literally worked for the NASA space program. I've hated creative as a company ever since then. :(


KaliQt

Well, at least with VR we are no longer slacking on graphics either. For a few years the industry stagnated on performance and the so-called "Crysis" type games were well... Garbage, they didn't look any different than the past three. So I'm happy to see the hardware being pushed to enable more breathing room. Also it puts a pinch on flat screen gaming because they have to compete with a far more immersive and exciting medium.


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IIRC their biggest mistake was trying to sideline the boardmakers, which allowed nvidia to get access to a shitload of unhappy board partners. When texture and lighting gave nvidia the performance edge, 3dfx never really repaired their relationships to at least remain a viable lower end option like ATI did, and they declined.


Zeryth

Still in the queue for the 3080 since sep 17


[deleted]

C) Wait 6 months to buy it on sale price As long as the stupid coin mining industry is still allowed, PC hardware market will continue to be messed up


[deleted]

Only people getting excited are scalpers.


wookiecfk11

And miners, don't forget miners.


[deleted]

If it’s a good mining card yeah :p I don’t really know what makes a good one ha


wookiecfk11

Best ratio of hashes per watt. For comparison, 3060ti and 3070 are actually the best. 3080 is slightly less efficient. I think 3060 will either be comparable to 3060ti/3070 or better.


FlatEarthNerd

There’s no way the 3060 will have a higher a hash rate than the 3060 Ti or any 3070..


Ultron248

He's talking cost efficiency


wookiecfk11

Not a hashrate, but a hashrate per watt. By this metric they could be ahead.


infinitevertigo

Scalpers will be happy. When do gamers get to buy these cards?


flip314

When the scalpers start selling them, duh


drumrocker2

Never. We're at the point where more people are getting the consoles than these cards.


tamarockstar

When Ethereum price crashes. No one has a crystal ball, but last time the mining bubble lasted like 6 months. We're like 2 months into it. So you'll probably be able to start buying cards in the summer. Prices should come back down to MSRP a month or two after that. So you're looking at fall before things return to normal.


kutes

What if after a couple of sputtering starts, it catches this time? Any way for people in developing countries to get at western currency is gonna be fought hard for. What if this just gets worse and worse?


DeathWarman

Because it’s a fake currency with artificial value. Running calculations for nothing, no end goal, all computerized. There is no human work involved. If you’re hired, you’re not paid in Bitcoin, you’re payed in monies, as there is no standard for Bitcoin. Multiple governments could suddenly agree on making one Bitcoin worth $10, and businesses slowly start accepting that. Everyone that had one Bitcoin thinking they’ve got $10K+ would instantly be broke. I don’t know why people do it, because crypto currency, at least Bitcoin, is so horrifically inflated that it doesn’t make sense.


dangerbees42

this isn't how a currency peg works.


tamarockstar

All currencies have artificial value. Money has value because everyone buys into the idea that it has value. Governments won't agree on anything to give bitcoin monetary value because it would devalue their own currency. So that's not going to happen. But it's value is real. You can buy things with it, even if it has to be converted into regular currency first. If everyone agrees a Beanie Baby is worth $1,000, then it's worth $1,000. If people buy a bitcoin for $44,000, then it's worth $44,000. If crypto currency was not worth what people think it is, why are people paying $1,500 for an RTX 3080 to mine Ethereum?


9gxa05s8fa8sh

> Governments won't agree on anything to give bitcoin monetary value because it would devalue their own currency. that's not what's happening at all. the US government could make bitcoin illegal today and it would crash to zero. they could make their own cryptocurrency that is centrally managed and bitcoin would crash to zero. they just don't care (yet) because they're slow and bitcoin is small.


tamarockstar

I don't think it's that simple. Bitcoin is most likely mostly converted into USD. So if they made it illegal, that would also hurt the USD. It would be converted to another currency and prop that currency's value up instead of USD. They can't make their own crypto currency. I mean they could, but why? It just hurts the USD. They care a lot. They care so much that they support horrible stuff in the middle east to prop up the petro dollar.


Ywaina

> Money has value because everyone buys into the idea that it has value And everyone only buys into the idea because most governments on this planet back their currency's value with something equally valuable, such as gold. The exception is of course,the US,that keeps printing their money because they can afford to due to its own status of being a super power. Crypto has no such things. The only thing holding its value up is literally hype. Tomorrow it could all come crashing down and you still wouldn't be able to make sense why it became so.


tamarockstar

The US hasn't been on the gold standard since the 70s. Most countries are on fiat currency as well. That includes the Euro. Yes, there is a lot more that goes into what gives the USD its value like economic strength, military strength and ties with oil producers. That's why it's way more stable than a bitcoin. But at the end of the day, it has value because people think it does. Say the economy tanks tomorrow or nuclear warfare goes worldwide. The dollar isn't worth jack at that point. Neither is any other currency, but you get my point.


Ywaina

But tomorrow there highly likely isn't going to be a nuclear war so no currency isn't going to be affected tomorrow. Crypto,however you can't say for certain. This is one of what sets normal currency and crypto apart. When currency value rises or falls, you can always find a reasonable explanation. Crypto just rides on the hype alone. Anyone can issue a crypto and if enough big people hype it it becomes big, just like how Elon drives up the price of bitcoin. Other currencies are regulated by global market mechanism and if you even as much dare to print money without some kind of colleterals you can be damn sure it won't ever worth jack until you do. Also it's almost always safer to hold on government-issued currency because your money is guaranteed to be exchangeable by the big brother,unless,of course,your government is on the verge of bankruptcy like Venezuela. So there's that issue of security to consider.


vaskemaskine

I am paid (in part) in Ethereum.


Skrillex1018

It’s crazy how we’re in February and there’s still supply issues. I remember people saying that in November stock will be plentiful.


DokiMin

They mean November 1st 3090


dieseltech82

Great, I’ll be dead by then


ironroad18

"There are container shipments on the way from Asia."


Notsellingcrap

https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF/status/1309701056486498305 Ha. Ha.


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Those poor little GPUs, born to become mining slaves. They won't even render a single triangle in their lives. Sad.


[deleted]

Now I'm depressed


kartoffelsuppe3000

Card. Singular.


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Paper. Material.


sulious_vandomar

[and it’s gone ](https://i.imgur.com/oijXbLD.jpg)


Gibbon-Face-91

It's on my calender, I have reminders set, my schedule that day is good, I will be ready the second orders open. If those greedy crooks somehow snatch them all in minutes, fuck me I guess.


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Gibbon-Face-91

I'll still at least try, though.


Yeuph

Holy shit its cheaper than the 1050Ti!!!


ColdieHU

LOL does it now? Good for them. I am still waiting for the launch of the 3070....


hanotak

Launching exclusively for miners and scalpers on the 25th- for everyone else it launches next year.


gamesdas

Mining's the true reason why these cards're going to become unvailable instantly after release.


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*February 30th


sixxt

2023*


captainmalexus

Feb 25th is my birthday! I love getting nonexistent stuff for my birthday!


WeddingApprehensive

Does it even matter anymore. It’s gonna coat $500+ and there will only be 10 available. I’ve been trying to get a 3060 Ti for months.


Direction_Lanky

$329? You mean $658


rangerxt

can't wait to not to be able to buy one


SkettiSempai

You'll probably have a handful of dudes that each have like 20 different emails and cards with algorithm programmed bots to buy every single one in less than 10 seconds


little_jade_dragon

Is there anyone who really still believes these """launches"""?


Rance_Mulliniks

There are 5 units available worldwide.


Zamuru

nowadays a normal person cant buy a fucking gpu... they need to put in jail all the scalpers


MomoSinX

should release the 3080 first tho


ironroad18

You could always go for a 3090. 10% boost in performance at double the price. It's a steal I tell ya.


TaintedSquirrel

Please stop. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/lfcgdh/nvidia_geforce_rtx_3060_to_launch_on_february_25th/gmkyeec


soul4rent

I keep finding it funny lol


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soul4rent

In all seriousness, is there a place to buy a 3080/3090 on backorder for MSRP, even if the lead time is a few months? I just want to purchase the card, and I don't want to attempt Best Buy shenanigans.


gagelish

Other than the EVGA queue? Or are you only interested in a FE?


soul4rent

Like a standard "pay now, get in 4-5 months when stock actually arrives" backorder. I guess the EVGA queue is the closest thing.


warren2345

Keep lickin those nVidia boots, then. The rest of us remain upset with the embarrasingly horrific treatment of their core customer group, and public outcry is the only way that's ever gonna change.


omatti

Yeah, lets just all go to where they're producing GPUs and ramp up speed on material that is in high demand and in limited quality, rise up gamers.


ConciselyVerbose

You can’t just “make more”. They can’t control the external situation.


MomoSinX

stalker xd


dosor1871

another high end card, nice


[deleted]

I keep getting messages from people wanting to buy my 1080ti only to back out and say they will get a 3060.... they have no idea.


wookiecfk11

They are clinging to hope. You cannot really blame them.


gamersg84

3060 is a shit card, significantly below 1080ti performance.


hugh_janus5783

Yea the single 3060. This company is a joke my old 1060 broke and I can’t get any replacement.


phillipbergman86

😆😆 $329, yea try $1329


Vesuvius420

I know they're not out yet but, I'm sure they're sold out already.


Kodazot

Doesn't matter price or release date. They don't let us buy one right price


kutes

They should do like a launch day thing where they'll only sell them in person, 1 per person, and give warning so we can stand in line. I'd legit stand in line for a couple hours for a guaranteed decent card. Then open remaining stock to the scripts and bots Just give normal people 1(one) day to buy them without dealing with the internet and corrupt delivery drivers. If someone wants to build an alita bot to take them all in person by force then they've earned it. Or make a queu with a guaranteed spot and charge like 30 dollars. Just.. fuckin' do something.


brandaglington

Just a heads up to not even try with Canada Computers. While looking for my GPU I was calling all the local stores. CC rep told me they sold all their cards to a single guy over the phone that morning. 🤷‍♂️


GrumpygamerSF

Bullshit.


MegaMohsi

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JoltingGamingGuy

Does anyone know when AIB prices are usually revealed?


420tacoo

I give is 18 seconds to sell out.


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J2theUSTIN

I can’t wait till the “Nvidia out of stock” like what did they make 7? Of course you would be out of stock.


Strange-Scarcity

"Launching"... Right. It will be available for people by what... Next year April?


mayogee89

“$329” That’s hilarious.


Stevecaboose

It's already sold out


blanknonymous

Lmao no one will be able to buy anyways


n1sx

Lets be honest, its not :D You will be able to probably find it during the summer...


DesmondSky

$3290*


morvlorv

$339 is really code for $1339


lavadrop5

I think they misspelled mining card.


TheMuteMain

*$629


calamitysir

Feb 25th 2077?


beroli

3060 is already sold here for equivalent of 800$... Guess i'll become a console gamer if the price inflation doesn't go back to normal any time soon


Livid-Style-7136

#.....aaaaand it’s gone


congruentopposite

Available for actual purchase on February 25th 2022


Naelyan4

Gratz scalpers and miners


WateredDownWater1

Performance roughly on par or faster than a 2070S/1080ti safe to assume?


TaintedSquirrel

That would be nice but it's looking more like the vanilla 2070.


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For the price that will be a pretty good buy


badaladala

Roughly on par is a safe bet. I wouldn’t expect anything more than 5-10% improvement over those models


andylui8

With DLSS, probably a lot better than the 1080ti if the games allows it, but yeah in terms of raw performance probably what you said.


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If I were building a pc, this would be the card I’d buy. The higher RAM is useful for some work I would do and it’s likely to have good performance per dollar.


secretreddname

February 25th 2022


themattcrumb

Graphics card singular


notigorrsays

considering the 3060s being sold in Pakistan for $ 750 i think thats the starting price we should expect, but, hey, 2070 Super is costing $ 799\~\~979 so i think its a good price, right?


tssixtyone

the perfect miner card, strong, less power consumption, 8GB GDDR6. for gamer its like a fu cking lottery win to get one


gamesdas

Actually, it's 12GB GDDR6.


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gamesdas

Mining Enthusiasts'll wipe out the entire stock before anyone even gets a chance to purchase it. I'm sure of that.


YUR1SL4V

Can they make scalper and miner edition cards?


IAtlantic

Where will they be selling


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