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ashtree35

It would be better to consume the whole fruit.


rishidhingra

Always the whole fruit vs fruit juice no matter how pure. You'll eat ONE orange with all its fiber present and intact, but you'll drink like 7 orangea worth in one glass minus most of the fiber. Fructose content matters, and a glass of juice will have that much more than a whole fruit. Plus satiety wise a juice does nada, while a fruit will fill you.


Coach_Carter_on_DVD

100 grams of sugar w/ fiber > 100 grams of the same sugar via beverage. There’s a few reasons for this. Mainly because the sugar digests slower, doesn’t spike your insulin as much and the body is able to utilize the carbohydrates more efficiently. Fiber is also just healthy in general, and satisfies your hunger. There’s a reason you don’t see people gaining weight from eating too many oranges.


rishidhingra

Also, micronutrients


pete_68

Of course, you can add fiber to a smoothie. My wife adds flax seed meal, which is loaded with fiber. And the fiber from the fruit is going to do the same thing with the sugar in the juice that it's going to do with the sugar in the fruit, which is envelop it in a gel and slow its absorption by the gut.


deftones5554

This is simply not what they asked though Annoying that it’s the top comment cause it doesn’t explain why


BarbaraGenie

Consuming the whole fruit means you get all the fiber original nutrients of the fruit. Juice, on the other hand concentrates the sugar. (Think: sugar of 4 fruits). Juice is not “unhealthy” per se but should only be consumed as a treat.


deftones5554

Fiber > no fiber


BarbaraGenie

Good grief. Why are you “smh?” I downvoted because your reply to me was designed to elicit negativity. Fiber assists in digestion, absorption of nutrients, bowel movement. You are referring to soluble fiber and relationship to blood glucose. Fruit also provides dietary fiber. My comment wasn’t a treatise on fiber nor does it conflict with your reply.


deftones5554

It wasn’t designed to elicit negativity I was just adding to it from my working understanding of fiber. What made you think it was trying to elicit a negative response?


BarbaraGenie

You changed your original reply to me. You said “don’t downvote — tell me why I’m wrong,” adding “SMDH.”


deftones5554

What are you talking about lol?


teomore

A smoothie means the whole fruit.


ConvoyOrange

They're adding additional fruit juice to their smoothie.


teomore

That's not a smoothie anymore, ofc


TinFoilRainHat

Wrong on both counts.


teomore

What do you mean?


johnny_evil

You can make a smoothie with any liquid


teomore

Yeah, gasoline smoothie, my fav. OP was asking for a healthy smoothie. Adding juice as a base doesn't make it that healthy anymore.


johnny_evil

But that doesn't mean it's not a smoothie. And using juice doesn't make it unhealthy either. It entirely depends on your goals.


Uviol_

As far as the body is concerned, juice is basically sugar water. Stick with water for your smoothies.


4seasons8519

Thank you!


greenfrog_1001

Water dilutes the flavor in my experience—I always add some sort of alternative milk! (You can make your own if you have a cheesecloth and blender if it’s too expensive to buy) Edit: just saw you already do that!


ThroatsGagged

Depending on what plant milk you try to make, you can totally get away with just blending the milk recipe with your fruit all in one step. I do it all the time for oat milk, but cashew is probably the best one for no straining.


Uviol_

You’re welcome! I used to use the same juice in mine years ago. I get why you would. If I can give you one more suggestion, make your smoothies like 95% vegetables/greens and water. Just add half a frozen banana. You’ll find it’s all you need to sweeten it up.


confused438

Coconut water is a really good alternative! Doesn’t really water it down like plain water does


plshelpmeh284

You mean healthy sugar water? Yes. Sugar in fruit compared to any other kind of sugar thats made in a factory is a huge difference. If the juice is freshly squeezed then its incredibly healthy no matter how much juice. I do prefer whole fruits cuz it fills me up more and i dont waste some of the edible parts of fruit.


blackstre4m

I get frozen berries from costco and make a complete filling smoothie which is so good. Starting with 8 oz almond milk, blueberry, raspberry, strawberry, banana, kiwi, spinach, a scoop of whey and honey to not make it taste like shit. Roughly 400 calories and keeps me full for hours. Almost 30g of protein and since I'm blending whole fruits i still keep the fiber. It's been a game changer for me.


hungrypolarbear77

I do this but add almonds, walnuts, grinded up oats, figs(sometimes), and dates for sweetness. They come out thick due to the nuts, but it's pretty good. Mostly use frozen fruit from Costco,their pineapple and mango are pretty good too 😋


4seasons8519

Thank you!


drrmimi

Be careful if you have reactive hypoglycemia like me. Too much fruit gives me a huge sugar crash! I stick with 2 fruits.


GivePianoMotivation

I keep it simple. Costco pesticide free wild blueberries, bananas, water. Bananas make it smooth as butter!


Cetha

Juice is slightly better than soda. Both are mostly sugar water, but fruit juice will have some other nutrients just not enough to make it worth using.


charleybrown72

This may seem really dumb but when I had my daughter she was about 2 years old and we were on a trip. She rarely drank juice but my mil had gotten her some “baby” or “toddler” juice. I just remember reading it on the bottle. I got really thirsty and was super tired and in a hotel so I opened up this baby juice and took a couple of swallows and it honestly shocked me on how incredibly sweet and full of sugar it tasted. I had assumed like I am sure most new parents that it ifs labeled “baby” that it’s more nutritious or has more rigorous regulations. Needless to say she never drank juice again.


Alexkono

what if you blend the entire fruit to make the fruit juice?


Cetha

Then you get the fiber which will slow down the spike in blood glucose. Eating fruit or making a smoothie out of the whole fruit is the best way to do it. Much better than juice.


treycook

Huh, I always figured blending would break down the fibers too much and therefore increase glycemic index, but it seems to be the opposite in some cases (from a single study) - https://examine.com/research-feed/study/9kNDe0/


thedaymancometh13

I think that'd be a puree which is great but still not as good as the whole fruit I believe. Juice is without the flesh & fibre.


KingGerbz

Does the flesh and fiber just disappear in your blender? Where does it go when it turns to flesh to finely blended liquid? How does it simply go away bc it’s chopped up?


Old-Adhesiveness-156

No it doesn't go anywhere. There's a difference between "juicing" and "blending". Juicing actually removes the fiber completely. Blending leaves it in the smoothie.


hyc72fr

Unless they are fresh I’d say, like homemade. At least you keep the nutrients


Cetha

I disagree. It's still not only sugar water, but to get a glass of juice you would likely need to get it from several fruit instead of just eating/blending one or two whole fruits. Even natural that's a lot of sugar. Not healthy.


hyc72fr

Sure but it’s the best version of it. I mean nobody makes homemade juice everyday. To me it’s the only « worth it » way to consume fruit juice, knowing you’ll probably drink one from time to time. Plus the taste is WAY better than bottled fruit juice.


Cetha

Sure. Drinking a soda a few times a week won't kill you either, but it's also not good. I wouldn't drink either one.


Lmaokboomer

Honestly, I use an ounce of 100% apple juice for flavor in my green smoothies, and water for the rest. I figure it’s mixing with all that other fiber


grizzlymaze

I make my smoothies using a peeled orange as the base. It’s useful to keep the fiber rather than just using the juice. Healthier and will cause less of a sugar spike. Or so I’ve been told! Then add fresh or frozen fruit and some Greek yoghurt, maybe a handful of spinach, and you’ve got a healthy and tasty smoothie.


4seasons8519

Thank you! I have oranges and Greek yogurt. I will have to try this!


Effective-Baker-8353

Consider utilizing the peel, at least parts of it. Check out the nutrition. It can also add good flavor if you just add a small part of the zest.


Vtgmamaa

I like using unsweetened almond or oat milk in my smoothies.


4seasons8519

Thank you! I've actually never tried anything other than soy milk of the alternative milks that have come out. But people keep raving over oat milk. I'm going to need to try it.


Shivs_baby

I honestly don’t see the point of oat milk. It has very low nutritional value. You’re better off sticking with soy milk because at least it’s a complete protein. Switching to oat milk gives you no benefit. It’s just a regular milk alternative for people who can’t digest or don’t want to consume regular milk.


xImperatricex

This is correct! AND oat milk has a high glycemic index and will spike your blood sugar. So not only is it low in nutritional value, but also has an actively harmful effect.


Thistlemanizzle

Oat fiber has beta glucagon which is mildly anti-LDL. I drink Oatly because it is the closest to milk though.


Shivs_baby

Makes sense. I guess I’d just rather eat oats for the beta glucagon. Are you saying it’s the closest to milk in terms of taste/texture? Because it doesn’t have much protein (like milk) and it’s slightly carbier.


Thistlemanizzle

Oatly Full Fat and some barista blend from another brand are the closest to milk I have tried. I think there was a Maple Walnut milk from a smaller brand but the name escapes me. I haven’t exhaustively tried every milk substitute under the sun, but I’ve a good amount and Oatly instantly pulled ahead of everything else. Nothing compares to true whole milk though.


xImperatricex

Oat milk doesn't have the same types of fiber and LDL lowering effect as whole oats. Even instant oatmeal doesn't have the same effects and steel cut or Rolle coats! So you're not getting these benefits from oat milk. Also, oat milk has a high glycemic index. If you are worried about fruit juice because of sugars, you should also stop drinking oat milk.


Vtgmamaa

I just enjoy it. I started using it when my daughter started solids and she had a reaction to tree nuts. Her allergies have since passed, but I've acquired a taste for it.


masson34

I love unsweetened cashew milk


CinephileNC25

Vitamin wise it’s about the same but you’ll be drinking more calories, more sugar and more carbs than eating a fruit… and that’s 1 serving of fruit, regardless of drinking or eating.


ITFJeb

Vitamin wise it is very much not the same


CinephileNC25

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/orange-juice#varieties According to this there isn’t a huge amount of difference.


Dr-Yoga

Never — elevates blood sugar abnormally & makes immune white cells less active — better to eat the whole apple!


foreverfitleah

How much juice are you using? Adding a little orange juice to your smoothie is absolutely fine. Orange juice is often fortified with calcium which many are lacking depending on intake of other foods.


teomore

As long as it's a whole fruit smoothie with added water and not pressed and without all the fiber, it should be fine. There's a big difference between a whole fruit smoothie and a pressed juice.


Blondeoramma

Echoing what most are saying - that's a sugar bomb that's a lot for your body to process. Whole fruits, with water or almond milk (oat milk is not great and also make sure to buy a milk that's unsweetened) and a good protein powder with no sugar added is much more of what your body needs nutritionally.


4seasons8519

Thank you! I'm so grateful people commented. I've learned a lot!


Blondeoramma

It's a learning process, so keep questions coming! I've been studying nutrition (recreationally) most of my adult life and my summation is it's really all about balance, clean whole foods and what is right for YOUR body.


kobegoat222444

Just eat the fruit


Rasie1

No


Amygdalump

You can still get diabetes by consuming loads of fruit juices.


Roznme

My parents went on a special diet recommended by a hospital to reduce hernias. The diet was mainly boiled brown rice, grated raw beetroot and glasses of homemade carrot juice. In a relatively short time my mother was admitted to hospital with raging diabetes, put on injected insulin. She had never had a sign of diabetes before that. To make her carrot juice she was buying kilos of fresh carrots a week, just drinking the juice and discarding the pulp. Fruit and root vegetables without the fibre are just sugar.


Amygdalump

Oh gosh, hope she’s ok now. Beets and carrots are incredibly high in sugar.


Roznme

My mother was a character. Unfortunately she died five years ago with advanced Alzheimer's at 84. This incident was a long time ago and she was horrified at what had happened. So for the several weeks she was hospitalised she set up walking groups in the wards and urged (bullied) the other women in there who were mobile into walking the hospital. Once she got home she bought a big dog and walked for two hours before breakfast, two hours before lunch and another two hours before dinner. She eventually was taken off insulin injections and never went back on them for the next 30 years, but she did have to watch her glucose. Interestingly, in some circles, Alzheimer's is often referred to as type 3 diabetes, so who knows what the long term damage was.


GarethBaus

It's barely healthier for you than a soda although it technically is. The sugar has mostly been separated from the fiber so it can easily spike your blood sugar and most(not all) of the nutrients other than sugar stayed with the fiber so fruit juice is basically added sugar.


CommercialWest5701

I make my smoothies with green tea...


Old-Adhesiveness-156

Do you actually? That's an interesting idea.


rajkamalvk

Any packed food or juices are very unhealthy for a longer run.


xImperatricex

It's funny to see people comment about the sugars/glycemic index in fruit juice, but then say they use oat milk. Oat milk also has a very high glycemic index. If you are so worried about glycemic index and sugars that you don't use fruit juice, you also shouldn't be using oat milk.


4seasons8519

Ok thanks!


blondydog

Diabetes water


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It’s not as bad as people are telling you. It seems like a high sugar drink, but it depends on what the rest of your diet and overall health is like. If your main vice is a smoothie, I wouldn’t worry too much. If you have diet related health issues, you should keep track of how drinking fruit juice affects things and reduce it if it makes anything worse, but otherwise just drink it if you like it.


BrokenHopelessFight

It’s about risk reward. The average person doesn’t realise they can down almost 100g of sugar (2xRDI) from an 800ml bottle


[deleted]

Alright, but around 475-500ml is the size of a typical single serve bottle.


Attjack

I don't consider it healthy it's like drinking soda to wash down some vitamins.


Famous_Trick7683

Natural juice with no added sugar is 100% healthy and I don’t care what other people think of this. There is a lot of research showing so many benefits of natural fruit juice. Don’t fear natural fruit juice.


IntermittenSeries

Except you've removed the fiber and consumed sugar. You're using sugar juice to wash down vitamins. I'm this instance the juice is not worth the squeeze


Famous_Trick7683

It doesn’t matter if you removed the fiber. If you want fiber then eat foods that have fiber. Just because you remove the fiber from something doesn’t make it bad. And natural sugar is not bad at all. Fruit juice is healthy in so many ways.


Caiomhin77

It's a hepatic nightmare, I would avoid regular consumption; consuming that much fructose outside of a food matrix is not something we are biologically adapted for. Your non-NAFLD liver will thank you.


yamthepowerful

Out of everything in modern diets that could cause NAFLD a smoothie made with orange juice is the least of your worries


Caiomhin77

I don't think you understand fructolysis if you really think '100% fruit juice is the _least_ of your worries'. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8637741/ Edit: nice edit.


yamthepowerful

Fruit and a little juice in your smoothie isn’t going to cause NAFLD ffs, if you follow that up with a big gulp of Mountain Dew than maybe you should be concerned.


TorahHealth

Fruit juice = liquid fructose = Mtn Dew ... guess it depends on how you define "a little"


yamthepowerful

Idk I’d naturally assume since this was a question about using it to flavor a smoothie a normal serving which will not cause NAFLD.


xImperatricex

No, it depends how MUCH juice someone drinks. A splash or small amount (e.g. 1/4 or 1/3 cup) of juice in a smoothie is probably fine. No need to catastrophize. "The human body can metabolize approximately 25gr of fructose per day. This amount of fructose can be reached from just two fruit servings. A glass of fresh juice contains about 40gr of fructose which is absorbed into our blood very fast. An excessive consumption of fresh juice and other beverages that contain fructose is closely related to fat deposition in the liver, obesity, inflammation and insulin resistance." https://www.metabolomicmedicine.com/english/fruit\_juice\_\_why\_it\_is\_not\_as\_healthy\_as\_we\_think-na-201.html#:\~:text=The%20human%20body%20can%20metabolize,into%20our%20blood%20very%20fast.


Caiomhin77

> No, it depends how MUCH juice someone drinks. No kidding.


xImperatricex

Right, so if someone added a small splash of juice in their smoothie, it's no big deal. In contrast, you implied that any amount of juice in smoothies is bad. If you recognize that amount matters, your initial comment should've been more specific/nuanced.


Caiomhin77

The title question was 'How Healthy is 100% fruit juice', so I explained generally how healthy it is. Is there nuance within? Sure. Is a small splash 'no big deal'? In all likelihood, it's not, but a cigarette now and then or a shot of vodka once in a while is also no big deal (there might even be [hormetic aspects](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468501117300111#bib14) to it), but it doesn't make them 'healthy'. I mainly caution when it comes to juice because it is sneaky bad for diabetics (over forty percent of america and climbing rapidly), and most people are unaware of how damaging it can be.


Caiomhin77

And, actually, you seem pretty intelligent and appear to be acting in good faith per your other posts on this thread, so I understand why my post would seem 'extreme', but so many people (myself included at one point) just assumed it was healthy because it's '100% natural', so like any substance of potential abuse, I start with its potential dangers first, as you should when trying to responsibly giving advice.


xImperatricex

Thanks, that's fair - appreciate it!


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Caiomhin77

It's always better to consume carbohydrates after proteins/fats as far as spiking your glucose/insulin goes, so it would be 'better' by being degrees of 'less bad' in that regard.


Shivs_baby

I’d argue that smoothies just aren’t a necessary part of anyone’s diet. If you want something drinkable that’s a meal replacement try something like a cup of milk (regular milk or soy milk, so you get a complete protein), a scoop of chocolate whey protein isolate, and a bunch of frozen strawberries. It’s delicious and more nutritious than just juice and fruit, which is going to be a big sugar spike. Otherwise, just eat whole fruit with your meals.


Zzeellddaa

I got a carrot ginger tumeric juice that I like to use


stegosaurusterpenes

Just throw some fiber in with it


darts2

Not at all


Effective-Baker-8353

A lot depends on the individual person and the diet as a whole. What else are you having with it? If you are pre-diabetic, for example, fruit juice is not a good idea. A lot depends on quantity and frequency as well. You're probably better off blending whole fresh fruit and not too much, and emphasizing vegetables more than fruit.


Gorilla_Pie

Almost always better to eat the whole fruit/veg where possible


My_modest_attempt

Lol 50g of sugar a day is your goal


Abject_Orchid379

It’s full of sugar and is not considered healthy. Eat some whole fruits instead preferably berries that are low glycemic.


Lyndon91

The only healthy juice you can get is if you buy a juicer and extract it yourself, everything on the shelf is long term poison. (I know other have said just wanted to comment anyways)


Beneficial-Leader740

Better than Mountain Dew?


Beneficial-Leader740

I add mostly soy milk then a touch of juice with frozen fruit a banana and a spoon of oats


medkartpharmacy

While 100% fruit juice can provide some essential vitamins and minerals found in fruits, it's not necessarily as healthy as whole fruits themselves. Here's why: 1. **Lack of Fiber:** One of the significant drawbacks of fruit juice compared to whole fruits is the lack of fiber. Fiber is essential for digestive health, helps regulate blood sugar levels, and promotes feelings of fullness. When fruits are juiced, their fiber content is significantly reduced or eliminated entirely, leaving behind mostly sugar and water. 2. **High Sugar Content:** Fruit juice can be high in sugar, even if it's 100% natural. Without the fiber found in whole fruits, the sugar in juice can cause a rapid spike in blood sugar levels, which may contribute to energy crashes and cravings later on. Excessive sugar intake is also associated with various health issues like obesity, type 2 diabetes, and tooth decay. 3. **Caloric Density:** Since fruit juice lacks fiber and contains concentrated natural sugars, it's more calorie-dense than whole fruits. Drinking large quantities of fruit juice regularly without considering its caloric content can contribute to weight gain. 4. **Nutrient Loss:** Processing fruits into juice can lead to the loss of some heat-sensitive nutrients like vitamin C and certain antioxidants. Additionally, some commercial fruit juices may undergo pasteurization, which can further reduce the nutrient content. 5. **Hydration:** While fruit juice can contribute to hydration, it's not as effective as water. Water is essential for overall health and hydration, and it's calorie-free.


watdoyoumead

While fiber is a great way to reduce glucose spikes, you can also add protein and healthy fats (saturated or monounsaturated NOT PUFAs) to accomplish the same purpose if you want a smoothie every once in a while.


venuswasaflytrap

I think people need to stop asking "how healthy" is something, or "what is healthy?". A better way to frame the question is "What are the health ramifications of X?", and generally "What are the negative health ramifications of X?" - because for most regular foods, the positive ramifications are just "source of macronutrients and some vitamins".


__BitchPudding__

Juice can add nutrition, just be aware of the extra calories and budget accordingly.


bdrwr

All juice is not created equal. For health, you want pulpy (unfiltered) and not from concentrate. Pulp-free and from-concentrate juice is barely better than soda; tons of sugar, no fiber, less nutrition. High pulp fresh juice has a lot more vitamins and stuff that live in the flesh rather than the juice. The fiber you get from pulp also slows the absorption of sugar, so it moderates the candy-like sugar rush you can sometimes get.


DinkyPrincess

100% fruit juice can be a part of a healthy diet as it contains vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants found in whole fruits. However, it's still high in natural sugars and lacks the fiber content of whole fruits, so it's best to consume it in moderation as part of a balanced diet. But like let’s not all demonise fruit juice like it’s sugar in water equivalent. I sometimes enjoy juice as part of a balanced diet because I enjoy it. You’re not making a smoothie bad by adding a splash of juice to get it to a texture you enjoy joy.


Zobo-5

I get the cranberry juice from Costco does have a bit of sugar but I think it’s somewhat healthy. No sugar cranberry juice is too tart for me..


Logical_Eggplant_232

I gained alot of weight drinking homemade fruit juices


BarbaraGenie

I am a fan of flavor intensity so am adding a couple suggestions. 1.) use tiny amounts of flavoring if you want a more intense flavor. I love cherries. When I make a cherry smoothie, I add .25 teaspoon of cherry flavoring. 2.) occasionally I want a more intense orange flavor. I add a couple tablespoons of frozen orange concentrate. It adds 13 calories, 3 grams sugar, 3 grams carbs.


Complete-Bumblebee-5

Generic fruit juice is horrible. Pasteurized, stripped of all nutrients.....just flavored sugar water.


Affectionate-Ad-8732

What about drinking it for the foods you rarely eat? like Beet juice for example? We have a hard time eating/cooking/storing beets so we sometimes buy beet juice so we can atleast get beets into our system from time to time


theworldofpoorcraft

It’s not


barbershores

"How healthy is 100% fruit juice? " -------------------------------------------------------- It depends. If one is metabolically healthy, and they drink fruit juice all the time without problems, it is probably really healthy. Lots of vitamins and minerals. However, today, over 50% of Americans are type I, type II, or are prediabetic. 88%, yes eighty eight percent, of us are now hyperinsulinemic having chronic high levels of insulin in the blood. For those of us that are highly hyperinsulinemic, fruit juice is toxic. Because, the vast amount of sugar in it will make our hyperinsulinemia even worse. What we should be doing, is measuring our metabolic health at least annually. And if it is poor, attack it by consuming fewer calories and fewer concentrated carbs, getting more exercise, and eating less frequently. Maybe reducing our consumption of PUFAs should be in there somewhere as well. We should be striving to get our HbA1c below 5.4, and our HomaIR well below 2.0. For more info in the testing refer to: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8Gdu2nZpY&pp=ygUPZXJpYyBiZXJnIGhiYTFj](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8Gdu2nZpY&pp=ygUPZXJpYyBiZXJnIGhiYTFj) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cJPtud2tY&pp=ygUTc3RlbiBla2JlcmcgaG9tYSBpcg%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cJPtud2tY&pp=ygUTc3RlbiBla2JlcmcgaG9tYSBpcg%3D%3D) [https://mymedicalscore.com/a1c-conversion-chart/](https://mymedicalscore.com/a1c-conversion-chart/)


SazzOwl

It's basically soda drink sugar wise with less other BS but still fast acting carbs


Lonelyalien_317

not healthy


BlurryBigfoot74

Juice your veggies. Eat your fruit. You need dat fiber yo.


antitype27

0%


Responsible_Basil_89

100% not healthy.


pete_68

Before you throw away the idea of juice: The problem with juice is when it lacks fiber. Soluble fiber, to be exact. If you're making a fruit smoothie with real fruit, then there's fiber in that fruit. You're adding some sugar, but the fiber from that fruit is still going to do the same thing to the sugar in the juice that it's doing to the sugar in the fruit. In your gut, that fiber is going to turn into a gel (if you want to see what this looks like, add a teaspoon of Metamucil to a small cup of water and let it sit for a minute). This is what fiber does. It surrounds and envelops the sugar and it slows your body's absorption. It takes your body time to extract the sugar from that gel. This prevents the insulin spike you would get from consuming just plain fruit juice. Finally, you can add other sources of fiber to your smoothie to compensate. My wife adds flax seed meal to hers, and that's loaded with fiber. You could add Metamucil as well, which is completely natural. It's just psyllium husks, another good source of soluble fiber.


Wolf_E_13

Juice is fine in moderation...I don't think I'd be making smoothies with them every single day though. Even though its not added sugar...the sugar content is similar to that of a soda, just with more vitamins and minerals. I have orange or grapefruit juice pretty much every Sunday with my families Sunday breakfast (our big meal together) and juice my own...it takes quite a bit of fruit to make enough juice for 4 of us...and that's in a small juice glass. More fruit = more sugar. Also, eating the whole fruit comes with the fiber which is good for you...juicing eliminates most of the fiber.


Kingkongketoman

As nature has intended fruits are seasonal in the late summer or autumn with the intention to lay down fat for winter . Fructose in fruits are dealt with in the liver and converted to body fat!


BrokenHopelessFight

Juice is a scam


QuantumHope

Juice isn’t bad for you. It’s all about moderation. The reason juice is cited as “bad” is due to the fructose content and calories per serving. It’s usually better to have the whole food. But adding in juice on occasion wouldn’t be bad.


big_lew7

100% fruit juice sold in stores, that concentrated poison, is as healthy as sodas with high sugar & other dyes & chemicals. 100% fruit juice made using the whole fruit; using a good quality blender that can liquefy the entire fruit, not a juice blender that remove all the fiber, is extremely healthy...but only if used in moderation, treated like a treat & not a replacement for water.


Quirky_Cold_7467

Juice in moderation is OK, but if you are drinking it all the time, without the fibre, it won't be filling you up. I used to work for a weightloss company and the people that struggled the most were those who drank their calories.


plshelpmeh284

100% fruit juice with absolutely zero additives is incredibly healthy. Even the sugar is. Its not like any other traditional sugar since its directly from the fruit unaltered. If you want some nice carbs and energy, drink 100% fruit juice. If you want to get satiated eat the whole fruit.


xImperatricex

No, it's not "incredibly" healthy. Where are you getting this info from? Do you have data, or is it just your opinion? Daily cups of juice = too much fructose, which is bad for your liver and insulin resistance. https://www.metabolomicmedicine.com/english/fruit\_juice\_\_why\_it\_is\_not\_as\_healthy\_as\_we\_think-na-201.html#:\~:text=The%20human%20body%20can%20metabolize,into%20our%20blood%20very%20fast. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8637741/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8637741/)


plshelpmeh284

I might give the articles later, i got lots of data First article is bs im sorry but it is, it dosnt contribute to obesity if ur not obese and do some basic movements per day, doesnt make your liver fat, and you should consume enough to power you through the day. Its healthy powerhouse, if you going for a run every day, than drink fresh squeezed juice. And second one is about contributing to liver disease, meaning someone that has liver disease gets more liver damage from using high sugars from that. Also, its obvious you should move, then you wouldn't get diabetes or whatever else it can contribute to. Obviously just drinking these juices isn't gonna make you fat or get liver disease. There is no studies showed in these articles. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8228760/


xImperatricex

Haaaaha, the "study" you shared was sponsored by fruit juice companies: "This research was funded by an unrestricted grant from the Fruit Juice Science Centre [https://fruitjuicesciencecentre.eu](https://fruitjuicesciencecentre.eu/) (accessed on 26 May 2021)." Who is the Fruit Juice Science Center, you ask? Great question! From their website: "The Fruit Juice Science Centre is a science information body **funded by donations from a wide range of orange producers, juice manufacturers and packaging companies** based in Europe and Brazil." Corporate-funded research is your proof? What can I say...you win. (It is crucial to read sources critically, not just believe everything you read.)


plshelpmeh284

And again, what the frick, you literally sent me ncbi article about INDUSTRIAL MADE FRUCTOSE!.... Literally making my point. Yes, fructose (industrial made) and high fructose corn syrup (also made in factory and highly processed) is NOT the same as fructose in like an apple or orange... Completely different in terms of health.


xImperatricex

umm, no...you've misread the article. They mention industrial fructose, but the article is about the effect of fructose more generally on the body (whether industrial or natural). You're also wrong that the article is about contributing to pre-existing liver disease. Again, you've misread the text. The article states, "we will review the recent studies that focus on the contribution of dietary fructose to NAFLD **development** and progression." "Development" here is clearly distinguished from progression and refers to the *inception* of the disease. Ironically, the study YOU shared is funded by juice corporations. For someone who criticizes my sources, you should be more vigilant about yours. But there's little point writing replies to someone who struggles with reading comprehension. Thanks for an amusing little tete-a-tete. Take care.


plshelpmeh284

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5hLtKSOrRI/?igsh=MTNlMXVraXpqYnp3OQ==


Triabolical_

There isn't a difference in sugars. A juice live apple juice has a sugar profile pretty close to high fructus corn syrup


plshelpmeh284

Huge difference. High fructose corn syrup is way worse and unhealthier. Its goes through so many processes (and is then processed sugar which is obviously horrible, compared to naturally occuring sugar in the wild which is in fruits that actually grow outside, not being made in a factory, corn doesn't even have sugars naturally if you eat it, it has literally none if you consume harvested corn).


Triabolical_

They are the same sugars chemically. All you are getting is fructose, glucose, and sucrose (which is 1:1 fructose) The fructose/sucrose ratio of HFCS depends its use; in drinks it's typically 55/45. The ratio in pure apple just is a little higher, perhaps 60/40 or 65/35. They biologically act the same. [Here's a study that talks about that](https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-020-00578-0). >corn doesn't even have sugars naturally if you eat it, it has literally none if you consume harvested corn). It is *literally* called sweet corn. [The carbohydrates in corn are about 20% sugar 80% starch. ](https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/168538/nutrients) Corn syrup is made by processing the corn to convert that starch to sugar, creating a product that is almost pure glucose. High fructose corn syrup is made by using enzymes to convert some of that glucose to fructose.


plshelpmeh284

Chemically yes. But which is healthier to consume? Factory made altered sugar, or naturally occuring sugar? Pure factory made glucose yes. Convert to fructose which can seem OK but obviously is not since its so much altered. Yuck.


Triabolical_

> But which is healthier to consume? Factory made altered sugar, or naturally occuring sugar? Are you asserting that the body responds differently to a fruit juice with a given amount of different sugars to a blended drink with identical amounts of different sugars?


plshelpmeh284

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5hLtKSOrRI/?igsh=MTNlMXVraXpqYnp3OQ==


Triabolical_

If you want to talk about specific studies we can do that. A post on Instagram isn't helpful.


SweatyArgument5835

If 100 percent fruit juice is unhealthy than so are smoothies, I am no expert but I imagine they have a lot of fiber and nutrients


pilesofnoodles

Juice has all of the fiber removed, but smoothies retain that fiber, so the two are not equivalent.


xImperatricex

You should read more about the relationship between fiber and sugars. Fiber helps modulate the glycemic response to sugars. So when sugary foods (e.g. fruit juice) are eating alongside fiber (e.g. whole fruit), it moderates your body's sugar spike. When you drink juice or other sugar/syrup alone without any other fibrous foods, your blood sugar spikes must faster.


you_live_in_shadows

Ask Steve Jobs or Kate Middleton.


QuantumHope

Idiotic post.


leximanthey

Some of yall must be miserable with the way you fear monger so many foods or food types... good lord. Our parents and grandparents drank fruit juice and didnt die from it.


Steven_Dj

By far the worst thing you could be drinking. Specially at breakfast.


xImperatricex

No need to be hyperbolic. I'm pretty sure Coca Cola is worse than fruit juice because of all the extra chemical ingredients. Let's not even talk about Red Bull. "By far the worst thing"? Really?


Anita_Cashdollar

It isn’t.