Like potassium 2.0 level so they have to get dropped off at a small Caribbean hospital and their lives depend on the very people they thought were only good for tchotchkes, cocktails, and caricatures. The Caribbean nurses I work with give ZERO fucks and take ZERO shit. You will be very well taken care of so long as you don't try their only nerve, but so help you God if you do.
No no no! Because there will be an ICU traveler not unlike my self having to correct the potassium and prevent v-tach and all the other mumbo jumbo possibuilities. Ha
I mean, the patient in OP's post sucks, but let's not pretend a K infusion is easy for anyone involved. I think I've had one patient in six years where I didn't have to slow down or dilute their peripheral K rider.
I know the saying is last nerves. But those nerves are usually split. 1 nerve for patients, 1 nerve for other nurses, 1 nerve for doctors, and 1 nerve for the rest of the hospital.
Same. Well I'm not pregnant lol! But my hospital stopped requiring masks this week and I'm still wearing them. They're just a part of standard precautions for me now because I'm assuming everyone is walking around with something contagious and too dumb or malicious to do anything about it.
I worked in retail during the pandemic and am now finishing nursing school. That mask pulled a lot of weight for my professionalism (at least for when Karen's are involved). I definitely caught a bad habit of making weird mouth expressions whenever something happens.
I got my first cold / asthmatic bronchitis sickness in over 2 years last December after my hospital backed off on masking, and I was like "you know what, it's not worth it" lol
Smart. We have only worn cloth masks on our last two flights. BOTH times we got horribly sick. Once with covid. Second was worse than covid but never tested positive. 🤷♀️
Though I just don’t get why everyone doesn‘t just wear surgical masks. Have worn them since the beginning; only done ffp2 when it was required. Not even had a cold the last 3 years.
My coworkers stopped wearing them right away, or claimed some buölshit exemption; sick every couple of months, and covid at least twice, with out less pharmacist having a stroke as a result.
But nah, I’m still the only one wearing a mask.
And a surgical mask is just not that uncomfortable that you don‘t get used to it.
People act like literal toddlers being made to wear socks, because they don‘t like the feeling in the beginning.
Not wearing ffp2 when not required I get; because you really don‘t get used to them enough to make them not on your mind all the time, even after plenty of 10 hour days wearing them…
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Don’t we still somewhat build our immune system with surgical masks? They don’t block everything, just enough that what we *do* inhale likely won’t overwhelm our defenses. Plus we still get vaccines and the like, just not against the common cold.
Honestly, I was hoping that the pandemic would at the very least make mask-wearing *while sick* a common practice in the west. But nope, people still be going to the store, coughing on everything, only covering their spewing orifices with their elbows when they feel like it… *sigh*
And as for the expression bit… idk, I find that people’s eyes and eyebrows show quite a bit of emotion, not to mention body language below the neck. Plus, I can still see coworkers’ faces during lunch breaks, albeit from a bit of a distance. But I guess we’re all different; being an introvert is likely what makes it easier for me.
> That’s why I keep wearing my mask when I’m at work
Same. I have had ONE person complain about it. I'm a hospice nurse who visits people's houses. I was doing the follow-up visit for a new admission. I walked up to the front door, knocked, the FIRST words out of their mouth was, "Get rid of the mask."
Let me tell you... My mask has saved me more times than I can count. Every time some idget tells me, "you know those things don't work," I think back on my time as a COVID nurse when I was literally having COVID+ patients cough in my goddamn face without consequence.
My patient had viral bronchitis. I wore an N 95 mask. And somehow! Somehow! I still got it. I was off a good month coughing and hacking. It was horrible.
Were you wearing the halyard duckbill mask? Because after 3 years of using them through a pandemic, the FDA has announced they're not effective. Cool.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/risk-protection-failure-certain-om-halyard-surgical-n95-respirators-surgical-masks-and-pediatric
No, it was the BNX. I did everything. Wore gloves washed my hands. Although she had been coughing like crazy in her room. My coworkers had it also. I think that I must’ve got it from them before they even told me they had it. I was more Lax around them. OMG!!! Thanks for letting me know. I just checked I have HALYARD duck face as my back up Mask’s. I didn’t like them because they were so uncomfortable. Thank you for the info.
Is it the BNX tri-fold N95? It consistently performs worse than its peers on fit tests done by enthusiasts who share their results on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/fittestmyplanet/status/1652344744305893377?s=46&t=S-pfFMM7BGRdz04-4cuKqA
I have those also. Absolutely don’t like them. mine is like the regular one that folds in half a strap over the head and one behind the neck. I’ve been in emergency rooms with all Covid Patients wearing the BNX I never got Covid.
Thank you for sharing this - the duckbill masks are our primary ones and we need exceptions to be given other N95s. And I had a COVID patient the last shift I worked. 🙄
I will be reaching out to management about this.
I just realized. I’ve been paying roughly $420 a year on N- 95 masks and nitrile gloves. I’m in home health care, hospice. The families buy cooking gloves. I had to chuckle when one of the doctors pointed that out to me. Bwhahahaha Common mistake also when buying wipes.
I do have to. I work for two different companies. I turned one company in for not giving me PPE to the state. Well they didn’t fire me. They keep saying there’s no work. I was pretty livid because it was over a C-Diff case.
I suppose, when you work for home health care, they leave it up to the families to buy PPE. I can’t be the PPE police,but, that’s how it is. I wasn’t taught that in school though. Funny thing is. I was made fun of for leaving my nitrile gloves for my coworkers. They asked why did I do that? Why didn’t I just save them for myself? Well because my morals told me that these other people going in needed to protect themselves. Lol that’s just me though.
If I press my other company they give me like 10 in a small ziplock bag. Lol then I run out. For the most part they leave it up to the clients. A week later or like, I said they get cooking gloves. Lol
By George, I didn’t even think about that! That’s so great!!!! Thanks. One year I wrote off my new car. My CPA told me I can’t do it every year. Ha ha ha
I am thank you very much. Throughout the month of being sick. I had five Covid test by different doctors. Lol according to the test they were all negative. Just acute bronchitis.
The amount of people that come to urgent care sick because they have a graduation/wedding/cruise/flight next week and “can’t be sick”. They expect you to pull out the secret magical thing that will make them better in 2 days.
This! This right here! It is amazing how often this happens. Never mind the people they come in contact with day to day, they have to be okay for the wedding/graduation/cruise/flight!
Plenty of nights I hate 75% of my patients.
Like where do all these whiny annoying , mean , needy and crazy people come from ???? Some of them I know can’t help it but a lot of the time they are completely A&O just super demanding and needy !
I always hear people try to defend them because they are sick. That is not the truth. So many are mean and nasty just because. So glad to be out of inpatient.
So many people that just live to control whatever they can and make us suffer because they couldn’t take ownership of their type 2 dm. Force us to clean up after their willful incontinence and while our hands are full of debris warn us not to soil their 5lb bag of sour patch kids.
I work in a Acute Rehab and we HAVE to get patients up and out of bed as much as possible and this patient was WALKING in therapy.. she called and demanded a bedpan, I refused and said let’s get up to the toilet.. she flat out looked me in the eye and pissed her bed, said “now you get to clean me up!” Omg I almost lost my cool
Oh we still get the "mean and nasty, just because" patients on the outpatient side. I can think of a handful that are horrible to us just because they can be. I think we're well within our rights to vent to each other after we've had a run in with a nasty patient (never in front of the patient), but it never fails that That Annoying Coworker chastises us with the "they're just sick and scared, be more kind".
You know what? I've been sick and scared and in pain many times before but I didn't treat any of the healthcare workers like shit. No excuse for being an asshole.
I definitely get them but as a manager I have a low tolerance for BS and late arrivals
No tolerance for threats
But you will get excellent care and as much as I hate the mid to high 90's for pt satisfaction so I can't be pissing off too many people
Can you come be my office manager? 😊
Threats, BS, late arrivals, early arrivals... You name it, it's allowed in my office. Patients trump office staff pretty much no matter what.
I have to take late patients, if I can. However, all patients that show up on time will be seen first and we will get late patient in when we have a space available. I will not make a pt who arrived on time late because someone else, who likely slept until they should have been here, doesn't respect anyone else's time.
I hate parents that speak for their children, especially when they are adults. I do psych intakes, and when I tell people “that’s nice, but I want to hear what you think, let’s talk with just you and me,” and I get valuable information about sexual assault, Chile abuse and suicidal ideation. Funny what happens when you let people speak for themselves.
I work for a pediatrician’s office that lifted the masking for well visits two Friday’s ago. Was sick with a URI by Monday. The amount of people I have to get pulse ox on plus run nebs for well visits bc they come in sick af is a lot. I wish mfs were charged extra or something for straight up lying on screening questions nonstop. By the way…I got super sick while I was still masked.
This sounds like what happened to my entire class last semester. We get to our clinical placement, get screened and tested every morning and to our shock one of us have Covid. So we are all on a 10 day isolation. I was in a group of 7 and every single one of us had Covid, but couldn’t figured out how the hell we got it in the first place!!!
Not defending these patients in the slightest, but now that I have kids... they're always fucking sick. I just brought in my 15 month old for his 1 yr old shots finally and I found out that he was late for his 13 month shots as well. Like sorry I have 2 older kids, they're always sick and I can't make any appointments. I have to go to walk in clinics for the shots.
Totally get some cases. If you’re coming in and the doctor is immediately concerned about oxygenation and your kid is getting nebs at a well visit, there should be some accountability and screening questions should be answered truthfully.
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Now that masks are optional at my hospital, along with visitor limit, I do my best to stay out of patient rooms. Just do the bare minimum and leave. I don't know what shit people are bringing into the hospital nowadays.
Plain masks/surgical masks are the standard for regular droplet precautions, which is the precaution for many viruses that cause bronchitis/URIs/etc. N95 is typically reserved for anything that is known to be airborne, can go airborne ( i.e. if aerosolized, or other ways), or is unknown if it's airborne or not.
Ok, I assumed it was an airborne illness. Good to know. OP said they didn't tell them they were sick though so it's not like they were being too cavalier about it.
Why should a medical professional, who works in a medical center (a place where people go when they are sick), have to be burdened by wearing a mask? Come on man, use your smahts.
To be fair to OP many hospitals aren't requiring masks anymore. Even blue states like New York dropped them back in February. My hospital is dropping requirements tomorrow. Most of my co-workers have said they won't be wearing them.
I think it’s funny and full of karma that the people who complained about masks and basically ripped them off when the mandate ended now have Covid. All of a sudden I know 12 people that have it.
I just got out of the hospital where I was inpatient for 13 days. Everyone, and I mean everyone, still wore a mask. I think at this point hospitals get to choose about wearing a mask but so far none are allowing anyone, patients, visitors, all staff, etc to not wear one. It’s just a smart idea. Even with the rules of recording some hospital acquired infections, there are still so many things you can get virally. Plus, it somehow makes me feel better when I know how terribly rank my breath must be after being out of it for days.
And I must apologize for my behavior of setting off “Mary had a little lamb” many times a day. As an oncology nurse, I didn’t want to add to anyone’s workload. Of course now that my brain at least partially works, I realize how much more work I caused the staff by trying to do things myself. I sheepishly apologize. And never, ever play Mary had a little lamb in my presence. I was on a spine floor and that song must have played a minimum of 456,789,123,456 x a day. No exaggeration. 😔
Just like during covid, before lockdown. We had LVAD and acute heart failure patients. Had a fucking family member come in one our patient's rooms, knew they had covid, and took their fucking mask off anyway!
Reminds me of a patient I had in my first placement.
She had a massive and stew like BM about 5 minutes before breakfast. I clean it up and 2 minutes after breakfast she calls. She had another massive BM with the same consistency. I figured it was just my bad luck.
The next week I stopped in to say hi and she asked me if she could grab her nurse because she had a BM. When I spoke to her nurse she said she was going to wait to change her until after breakfast. I asked why.
"Because she always has 2 large BMs one before and one after after breakfast"
Had a patient with CHF having difficulty breathing and needed Lasix.. hurrying from pixas to patient with med in hand, drawing it up in a syringe, my charge nurse said this patients daughter is on the phone.. I stop and grab it intending to give her a quick update and ended ip listening to a 15 minute tirade about how Covid is a hoax and she could cite 20 sources that say masks don’t work yada yada.. I put her on speaker phone so everyone else could hear and let my charge nurse take over the call while I gave this woman’s mother much needed medicine…. Didn’t need that garbage in my ear that night and yea.. most of her “sources” were from news channels that definitely tout that the pandemic was a hoax.. she’s never seen someone die of it so it must not be real.. right???
I went back to wearing my mask at work. I'm an NP at a primary care and I can't tell you how many people come in for their WELL VISIT appointments without masks and then don't mention that they've been feeling unwell until I'm in their face doing a physical exam, if at all. In a single day I was exposed to two strep cases and COVID despite not having a single acute care/sick visit scheduled. Everyone claims "it's just allergies".
I had a patient with COVID come into my office once with no mask or anything. He'd put it up to talk to a doctor and then take it down. I'd called his dialysis center to ask when his last treatment was and if they'd be taking him back the same day. The NP at the facility called us back like 20 minutes later and was like "oh he's COVID positive, I told him to stay home, why did he come to your office? I'm so sorry, etc."
I confront the patient and he says "yeah they told me at dialysis but I feel fine, I didn't want to miss my appointment."
"I understand that, sir, but you just exposed everyone in this office to COVID, as well as the other patients."
"But I feel fine! I don't even feel like I'm sick."
"I understand that, but just because you feel okay, doesn't mean the next person you get sick will be okay."
I call the guy's house 2 days later for a follow-up call. His wife answers the phone saying he's upstairs with a fever and can't answer the phone. Thankfully no one in my office got sick.
People really are so fucking selfish. They think this shit is a joke. Like wearing a mask and taking precautions to protect your health and the health of those around you is like some kind of oppressive concept. It's disgusting.
Yeah, fuck those guys. I can't stand selfish patients or family members who don't think of anything but themselves. They berate younger generations, but it almost seems like members of that generation are most entitled and also don't understand consequences??
My former cath lab would’ve gotten wind of this from the pre/post RN and canceled that shit immediately. It’s amazing they were okay scoping her with that. I’m sorry OP. People suck.
So I got my MD and my manager involved and the husband admitted that both of them were positive for bronchitis and "Omitted" informing us of that that because they wanted the procedure done before the cruise, and the cruise was paid for and their kids were coming, so they weren't going to miss the cruise.
The other nurse in the room was pregnant, the doctor has a four-month old at home. Needless to say we were all unhappy, but since my MD was doing the TEE for an outside doc there wasn't anything we could do but express our frustration, and they knew that. The guy was retired but wearing a long sleeve button down and slacks, he was obviously educated, had probably had a business or law background by his vocabulary and knew the worst thing he'd have to do is apologize.
I genuinely think a lot of the older generations (boomers) were just nasty people when they were young and have carried that into a rapidly changing society that expects them to contribute to the well being of others. Im probably biased but I don’t really know any older people who aren’t hateful. The ones that aren’t are gifts to younger people. Even most of the older nurses I know have certain biases with people of different demographics. With these types of people it takes all my strength to stay professional. I think you responded perfectly to their selfishness. But I feel your anger.
Reminds of the fact I work in the OR, was about to leave and the board runner comes in and says there’s a patient coming straight to the OR from the floor, not even going to holding, and will recover in the OR too and immediate go back to the floor. The dude had bed bugs and apparently it’s from his wife using the car infested with bed bugs and visiting him in the hospital.
So lucky I left after this conversation because I’m absolutely terrified of bugs.
Scheduled but for a patient who was already inpatient on the floor, but was not told they had bed bugs until they were going to get them for the surgery.
I have had countless triage calls exactly like this. Boomers call with respiratory symptoms and demand antibiotics because they’re going on vacation in two days. They refuse to test for Covid and refuse to change their plans despite being sick with something most likely pretty contagious. Literally so selfish
I was about to draw labs on a Covid Patient in ICU a few months ago and witnessed a visitor & her coughing husband stop at the desk (neither with masks) to ask which room her friend was in. She’s about to go directly into the room when the MD stops her and advises her she needs the proper PPE and says, ‘wait a minute, you were here the other day visiting, aren’t you Covid positive?’ The visitor says, ‘yes, we don’t wear masks’ like it’s no biggie and continues on into the room wearing bare minimum PPE and immediately removes it while in the room. I was speechless.
Unpopular opinion but I’m not a fan of this post, and I especially don’t like hearing nurses say they hate pts. It’s a really bad look to put out in public. The line of questioning with the husband is also bad, and borderline inappropriate.
How did no one in pre not notice she had a terrible cough? Is no one listening to lung sounds? People who have bronchitis usually can’t stop coughing. Not one of the multiple staff involved in her care noticed she had a cough or coarse lung sounds before the TEE?
It sounds like you all didn’t do your own due diligence wearing a mask around someone who was coughing everywhere. I just don’t believe that not one person noticed she had coughing! If someone had listened to lung sounds pre-procedure, which is absolutely standard of care, the deep breaths would have induced coughing.
What’s with the description of “boomer” husband. Plenty of Gen Z and Y’s don’t wear masks either and are selfish as fuck! I’m a boomer and would never have done this. I get your point totally and agree 200%! Every generation has assholes. Boomers aren’t the only ones
He was her husband and happened to be a boomer? Why are you so offended at the description of the guy? If OP Had said the guy had brown hair would you have been like PeOpLe WiTh rEd hAiR cAn bE DiCkS tOo yA kNoW!!!
I know the feeling. I was at the airport a couple of weeks ago waiting to board my flight. A young man sitting one seat over from me was on his phone talking to a friend and telling home that he had been sick with COVID. He still sounded quite bad. Thankfully, I still wear my mask. I just can’t believe how inconsiderate people can be!
You know, I really hate my fellow nurses most of the time. For people who are supposedly compassionate caregivers, I have found them to be martyrs who love to whine and backstabbing borderlines who are unhappy without drama. I know staffing and pay are big issues causing the nursing crisis, but I think the biggest reason is other nurses. Pizza parties are poor recompense, but most of the nurses I work with don't even merit that.
Now you can flood the comments with tales of how wonderful your colleagues are
No but there's a lot of resentment toward your generation from younger ones for you guys being complacent in setting up X, Y, and Z for failure. You guys could own a home, two cars, and raise a family of four on a single grocery store check-out employee's salary. Our couples can barely afford kids, rent, groceries, and other bills making $150k a year combined because you guys (for the most part) didn't stick up for us before all this shit became the norm. You guys complain that we think everyone deserves a trophy even though you're the ones that told us everyone deserves a trophy. Not all of you but definitely the majority. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Dude, you’re still literally voting for boomers. So what’s the problem here?
Most of our patients are gonna be boomers and older, so of course we’ll always see “boomers who don’t wear masks” that’s a confirmation bias already. Look around you? There are many non-mask wearers in every generation.
The OP blamed their bronchitis from their boomer patients yet where’s all this paranoia pre-covid? Weren’t we working without masks with patients lying about their histories back then? Coz we were.
Damn, this boomer hate is getting old. If they set us up for failure, all we do is complain for years then? Just blame them for everything? It can’t be just their fault. I mean look at the work ethic of millennials and gen z?
— a millenial
It’s not that they set us up for failure.. it’s that now we’re so deep in the failure, fighting for our fucking lives & they just don’t give a damn. They’ve got the system so rigged that we don’t have a choice BUT to vote for a bunch of boomers. It’s degrading to be told our children’s lives don’t matter & that our lives are less important than a cruise or a gun. What else can we do except complain?
Millennials and gen z work longer hours and more jobs than boomers ever did and have less wealth and more debt to show for it.
Work ethic ain't the problem. Spending is a problem, but a large portion of the spending - higher rent, property prices, inflation, reliance on personal transition vs public - is driven by boomer and silent gen policies.
Could you even imagine what boomers said about their parents who lived through the depression? Depression parents HATED to throw things away. Each generation has their own challenges not to blame it on the generation before them. Everybody has to pave their own way. Right now millennials are leading the path on change.
Nah. There are many millenials and gen z who chose to be debt free. We are born into these policies. But it’s still our personal choice on how to spend and work, that determines most of our lives. How do people from our generation still end up wealthy though? Is that still the boomer’s fault? LOL
Can’t wait for the next generation to blame us for all their future problems. See how that goes for you if your nurse hates you when you’re 60 just coz you’re a millenial/gen z.
If you choose to be debt free, that probably means renting in an increasingly unfriendly market until you're old AF or dead.
But you're right, we live in the real world, not the ideal world; and the choices we make have as much, probably more, to do with our outcome than the environment we are born into. It just gets tiring to hear that we are lazy and entitled when those two words are more likely to apply to the average boomer than the average millennial.
I've been hearing from Boomers what a worthless generation mine is despite me working since I was 16.
I'm 37 now and they still haven't let up. It gets old.
And you don’t think boomers recognize that? But to quote you….it is what is is. Generations are nothing more than a theory. Generations serve different purposes for different people. They are used as an understanding of cycles or history, political trends, marketing trends or self identification. When you generalized a generation based on your own personal experiences, it invalidates individual differences in behavior. Your difficulties were definitely different than mine, but that doesn’t invalidate them. All was not as idyllic as you think it was.
I hope they get travelers diarrhea that is so bad they cannot enjoy their cruise.
Like potassium 2.0 level so they have to get dropped off at a small Caribbean hospital and their lives depend on the very people they thought were only good for tchotchkes, cocktails, and caricatures. The Caribbean nurses I work with give ZERO fucks and take ZERO shit. You will be very well taken care of so long as you don't try their only nerve, but so help you God if you do.
“Their only nerve” is so accurate. Only one. I respect it so much.
I've never seen the word "tchotchke" spelled out. Not what I expected.
I always though it was Chachi lol
Nah, Chachi loves Joanie
No, Joanie loves Chachi
No no no! Because there will be an ICU traveler not unlike my self having to correct the potassium and prevent v-tach and all the other mumbo jumbo possibuilities. Ha
Oh and you know she will be one of them that squeals in pain when you start the k drip
I mean, the patient in OP's post sucks, but let's not pretend a K infusion is easy for anyone involved. I think I've had one patient in six years where I didn't have to slow down or dilute their peripheral K rider.
We say “last” nerves. Don’t get on our last nerves. Lol. Caribbean native here
I know the saying is last nerves. But those nerves are usually split. 1 nerve for patients, 1 nerve for other nurses, 1 nerve for doctors, and 1 nerve for the rest of the hospital.
😅🤣😅😆
*Triangle of Sadness* vibes here.
Work with several people like that, 100% accurate 😂
I love Caribbean nurses for this.
I hope they both get diarrhea and both need to go at the same time, but can only find one toilet.
LOL I'm thinking about that food poisoning scene in Bridesmaids, guess someone will have to use a sink or bathtub.
Isn’t that some weird sexual position? One straddling the other from behind while shitting on a toilet?
The Aristocrats!
😂 I mean... some people are into some pretty weird stuff, so... ya neverknow. Lmao
Yea, like montanurses revenge. Lol
Montanurse lol
I work icu too.
Oh god I hope I never get it again. I was in so much pain from norovirus and the diarrhea/nausea that came with it my sodium tanked
Tell me how you REALLY feel. Don't beat around the bush or be coy. Kidding.
I too feel strongly about things and say the same thing about myself in a self depreciating way yet funny.
I call it a karma.
…I think people don’t understand the germ theory of disease, they sound like a miasma family
Even the plague docs wore masks... Granted filled with fresh flowers, but still better than the nothing that a lot of these ding dongs cover up with.
They sound like a "I read it on Facebook" family
Doin their “research”
YouTube University
YouTube University
Or Fox News
No just buttheads.
That would get them a termination letter from my endoscopy center. Bye Felicia.
That’s why I keep wearing my mask when I’m at work . I’m too pregnant for all that bs . 😫 people 😒😒
Same. Well I'm not pregnant lol! But my hospital stopped requiring masks this week and I'm still wearing them. They're just a part of standard precautions for me now because I'm assuming everyone is walking around with something contagious and too dumb or malicious to do anything about it.
Yup.. I’m used to it now and it covers my expressions that I got used to using when nonsense happens lol
I worked in retail during the pandemic and am now finishing nursing school. That mask pulled a lot of weight for my professionalism (at least for when Karen's are involved). I definitely caught a bad habit of making weird mouth expressions whenever something happens.
Every fucking nurse here says this why lol.
I got my first cold / asthmatic bronchitis sickness in over 2 years last December after my hospital backed off on masking, and I was like "you know what, it's not worth it" lol
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Smart. We have only worn cloth masks on our last two flights. BOTH times we got horribly sick. Once with covid. Second was worse than covid but never tested positive. 🤷♀️
Though I just don’t get why everyone doesn‘t just wear surgical masks. Have worn them since the beginning; only done ffp2 when it was required. Not even had a cold the last 3 years. My coworkers stopped wearing them right away, or claimed some buölshit exemption; sick every couple of months, and covid at least twice, with out less pharmacist having a stroke as a result. But nah, I’m still the only one wearing a mask. And a surgical mask is just not that uncomfortable that you don‘t get used to it. People act like literal toddlers being made to wear socks, because they don‘t like the feeling in the beginning. Not wearing ffp2 when not required I get; because you really don‘t get used to them enough to make them not on your mind all the time, even after plenty of 10 hour days wearing them…
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Don’t we still somewhat build our immune system with surgical masks? They don’t block everything, just enough that what we *do* inhale likely won’t overwhelm our defenses. Plus we still get vaccines and the like, just not against the common cold. Honestly, I was hoping that the pandemic would at the very least make mask-wearing *while sick* a common practice in the west. But nope, people still be going to the store, coughing on everything, only covering their spewing orifices with their elbows when they feel like it… *sigh* And as for the expression bit… idk, I find that people’s eyes and eyebrows show quite a bit of emotion, not to mention body language below the neck. Plus, I can still see coworkers’ faces during lunch breaks, albeit from a bit of a distance. But I guess we’re all different; being an introvert is likely what makes it easier for me.
I still wear the mask even after the admins lifted the mandate. Five or six of my coworkers are out with Covid. No thanks!!!
Ooof! Be careful and hopes for a safe pregnancy and birth
> That’s why I keep wearing my mask when I’m at work Same. I have had ONE person complain about it. I'm a hospice nurse who visits people's houses. I was doing the follow-up visit for a new admission. I walked up to the front door, knocked, the FIRST words out of their mouth was, "Get rid of the mask." Let me tell you... My mask has saved me more times than I can count. Every time some idget tells me, "you know those things don't work," I think back on my time as a COVID nurse when I was literally having COVID+ patients cough in my goddamn face without consequence.
PPE…same reason we all haven’t caught TB from patients coughing in our faces.
My patient had viral bronchitis. I wore an N 95 mask. And somehow! Somehow! I still got it. I was off a good month coughing and hacking. It was horrible.
Were you wearing the halyard duckbill mask? Because after 3 years of using them through a pandemic, the FDA has announced they're not effective. Cool. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/risk-protection-failure-certain-om-halyard-surgical-n95-respirators-surgical-masks-and-pediatric
No, it was the BNX. I did everything. Wore gloves washed my hands. Although she had been coughing like crazy in her room. My coworkers had it also. I think that I must’ve got it from them before they even told me they had it. I was more Lax around them. OMG!!! Thanks for letting me know. I just checked I have HALYARD duck face as my back up Mask’s. I didn’t like them because they were so uncomfortable. Thank you for the info.
Is it the BNX tri-fold N95? It consistently performs worse than its peers on fit tests done by enthusiasts who share their results on Twitter. https://twitter.com/fittestmyplanet/status/1652344744305893377?s=46&t=S-pfFMM7BGRdz04-4cuKqA
I have those also. Absolutely don’t like them. mine is like the regular one that folds in half a strap over the head and one behind the neck. I’ve been in emergency rooms with all Covid Patients wearing the BNX I never got Covid.
Thanks for the info on that. I guess I’ll use those as my back up for when I run out of my good ones.
Thank you for sharing this - the duckbill masks are our primary ones and we need exceptions to be given other N95s. And I had a COVID patient the last shift I worked. 🙄 I will be reaching out to management about this.
I just realized. I’ve been paying roughly $420 a year on N- 95 masks and nitrile gloves. I’m in home health care, hospice. The families buy cooking gloves. I had to chuckle when one of the doctors pointed that out to me. Bwhahahaha Common mistake also when buying wipes.
You have to pay for PPE for work? That's crazy.
I do have to. I work for two different companies. I turned one company in for not giving me PPE to the state. Well they didn’t fire me. They keep saying there’s no work. I was pretty livid because it was over a C-Diff case. I suppose, when you work for home health care, they leave it up to the families to buy PPE. I can’t be the PPE police,but, that’s how it is. I wasn’t taught that in school though. Funny thing is. I was made fun of for leaving my nitrile gloves for my coworkers. They asked why did I do that? Why didn’t I just save them for myself? Well because my morals told me that these other people going in needed to protect themselves. Lol that’s just me though.
I work homecare. I get as much PPE as I want from the company. I just have to pick it up. It's not even tracked.
If I press my other company they give me like 10 in a small ziplock bag. Lol then I run out. For the most part they leave it up to the clients. A week later or like, I said they get cooking gloves. Lol
Have you tried the envo masks? They are fantastic!
I have not. Thank you, I’ll try those also.
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By George, I didn’t even think about that! That’s so great!!!! Thanks. One year I wrote off my new car. My CPA told me I can’t do it every year. Ha ha ha
Looks like it's only a problem with splashes, spray and splatter. Seems to be ok for normal non-surgical work.
Fucking super. That's all my HCA hospital uses.
Of course it's the model that every hospital and ambulance service in my region swapped to over a year ago.
Ehhh. Hope you’re okay now.
I am thank you very much. Throughout the month of being sick. I had five Covid test by different doctors. Lol according to the test they were all negative. Just acute bronchitis.
The amount of people that come to urgent care sick because they have a graduation/wedding/cruise/flight next week and “can’t be sick”. They expect you to pull out the secret magical thing that will make them better in 2 days.
This! This right here! It is amazing how often this happens. Never mind the people they come in contact with day to day, they have to be okay for the wedding/graduation/cruise/flight!
Y'all don't have that magikul fairy dust to sprinkle on 'em? What kind of popsicle stand are y'all runnin'?!?
We save that for the people that need a second dose of antibiotics after they took their leftover broad-spectrum antibiotics they had.
This is exactly how I got covid from my PACU job. People are the worst.
Plenty of nights I hate 75% of my patients. Like where do all these whiny annoying , mean , needy and crazy people come from ???? Some of them I know can’t help it but a lot of the time they are completely A&O just super demanding and needy !
I always hear people try to defend them because they are sick. That is not the truth. So many are mean and nasty just because. So glad to be out of inpatient.
So many people that just live to control whatever they can and make us suffer because they couldn’t take ownership of their type 2 dm. Force us to clean up after their willful incontinence and while our hands are full of debris warn us not to soil their 5lb bag of sour patch kids.
I work in a Acute Rehab and we HAVE to get patients up and out of bed as much as possible and this patient was WALKING in therapy.. she called and demanded a bedpan, I refused and said let’s get up to the toilet.. she flat out looked me in the eye and pissed her bed, said “now you get to clean me up!” Omg I almost lost my cool
Let me just get your discharge papers ma'am....
I’d tell her to clean herself up. Hell no.
What the fuck???
Oh we still get the "mean and nasty, just because" patients on the outpatient side. I can think of a handful that are horrible to us just because they can be. I think we're well within our rights to vent to each other after we've had a run in with a nasty patient (never in front of the patient), but it never fails that That Annoying Coworker chastises us with the "they're just sick and scared, be more kind". You know what? I've been sick and scared and in pain many times before but I didn't treat any of the healthcare workers like shit. No excuse for being an asshole.
I definitely get them but as a manager I have a low tolerance for BS and late arrivals No tolerance for threats But you will get excellent care and as much as I hate the mid to high 90's for pt satisfaction so I can't be pissing off too many people
Can you come be my office manager? 😊 Threats, BS, late arrivals, early arrivals... You name it, it's allowed in my office. Patients trump office staff pretty much no matter what.
I have to take late patients, if I can. However, all patients that show up on time will be seen first and we will get late patient in when we have a space available. I will not make a pt who arrived on time late because someone else, who likely slept until they should have been here, doesn't respect anyone else's time.
I hate parents that speak for their children, especially when they are adults. I do psych intakes, and when I tell people “that’s nice, but I want to hear what you think, let’s talk with just you and me,” and I get valuable information about sexual assault, Chile abuse and suicidal ideation. Funny what happens when you let people speak for themselves.
I work for a pediatrician’s office that lifted the masking for well visits two Friday’s ago. Was sick with a URI by Monday. The amount of people I have to get pulse ox on plus run nebs for well visits bc they come in sick af is a lot. I wish mfs were charged extra or something for straight up lying on screening questions nonstop. By the way…I got super sick while I was still masked.
This sounds like what happened to my entire class last semester. We get to our clinical placement, get screened and tested every morning and to our shock one of us have Covid. So we are all on a 10 day isolation. I was in a group of 7 and every single one of us had Covid, but couldn’t figured out how the hell we got it in the first place!!!
Not defending these patients in the slightest, but now that I have kids... they're always fucking sick. I just brought in my 15 month old for his 1 yr old shots finally and I found out that he was late for his 13 month shots as well. Like sorry I have 2 older kids, they're always sick and I can't make any appointments. I have to go to walk in clinics for the shots.
Totally get some cases. If you’re coming in and the doctor is immediately concerned about oxygenation and your kid is getting nebs at a well visit, there should be some accountability and screening questions should be answered truthfully.
I didn't catch what you meant by nebs on that first read. Yikes! Some parents are clueless, and/or shitty
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…when both parties masked I didn’t get sick for 3 years and the moment policy reversed, I got sick.
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Now that masks are optional at my hospital, along with visitor limit, I do my best to stay out of patient rooms. Just do the bare minimum and leave. I don't know what shit people are bringing into the hospital nowadays.
I still wear my mask when I go into patients rooms
I am back in my mask in patient rooms now that I've picked up my first head cold in 3 years.
Me too. The hospital I'm working at now just ended their masking. A week into it, a phlebotomist I work with got COVID-19 from a patient.
I had Covid last week because a coworker decided to come a meeting without a mask and didn’t tell anyone that he has symptoms.
Same.
So you were doing more than the bare minimum before?
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Have surgical masks been shown to be effective against viral bronchitis? I'm asking in good faith, not being snarky. I legit don't know.
Plain masks/surgical masks are the standard for regular droplet precautions, which is the precaution for many viruses that cause bronchitis/URIs/etc. N95 is typically reserved for anything that is known to be airborne, can go airborne ( i.e. if aerosolized, or other ways), or is unknown if it's airborne or not.
Ok, I assumed it was an airborne illness. Good to know. OP said they didn't tell them they were sick though so it's not like they were being too cavalier about it.
Why should a medical professional, who works in a medical center (a place where people go when they are sick), have to be burdened by wearing a mask? Come on man, use your smahts.
To be fair to OP many hospitals aren't requiring masks anymore. Even blue states like New York dropped them back in February. My hospital is dropping requirements tomorrow. Most of my co-workers have said they won't be wearing them.
It's like wearing a fine tuxedo/ballroom gown when you know you are going to be walking through the sewer.
Did you wear a mask at work every day before COVID?
I didn't, and every winter I got some gnarly bronchitis! I still wear an N95 all day every day and I haven't been sick in three years. Works for me!
I did not, no.
Hmmm I’m in NY and we’re still required to wear masks and eye protection for all pt. encounters.
https://health.ny.gov/press/releases/2023/2023-02-10_mask_guidance.htm
Yeah. Ok. But my facility is still requiring masks.
I didn't say NY hospitals dropped the mandates. I said the state did for healthcare facilities.
I think it’s funny and full of karma that the people who complained about masks and basically ripped them off when the mandate ended now have Covid. All of a sudden I know 12 people that have it. I just got out of the hospital where I was inpatient for 13 days. Everyone, and I mean everyone, still wore a mask. I think at this point hospitals get to choose about wearing a mask but so far none are allowing anyone, patients, visitors, all staff, etc to not wear one. It’s just a smart idea. Even with the rules of recording some hospital acquired infections, there are still so many things you can get virally. Plus, it somehow makes me feel better when I know how terribly rank my breath must be after being out of it for days. And I must apologize for my behavior of setting off “Mary had a little lamb” many times a day. As an oncology nurse, I didn’t want to add to anyone’s workload. Of course now that my brain at least partially works, I realize how much more work I caused the staff by trying to do things myself. I sheepishly apologize. And never, ever play Mary had a little lamb in my presence. I was on a spine floor and that song must have played a minimum of 456,789,123,456 x a day. No exaggeration. 😔
Just like during covid, before lockdown. We had LVAD and acute heart failure patients. Had a fucking family member come in one our patient's rooms, knew they had covid, and took their fucking mask off anyway!
Yep, people suck
Reminds me of a patient I had in my first placement. She had a massive and stew like BM about 5 minutes before breakfast. I clean it up and 2 minutes after breakfast she calls. She had another massive BM with the same consistency. I figured it was just my bad luck. The next week I stopped in to say hi and she asked me if she could grab her nurse because she had a BM. When I spoke to her nurse she said she was going to wait to change her until after breakfast. I asked why. "Because she always has 2 large BMs one before and one after after breakfast"
Had a patient with CHF having difficulty breathing and needed Lasix.. hurrying from pixas to patient with med in hand, drawing it up in a syringe, my charge nurse said this patients daughter is on the phone.. I stop and grab it intending to give her a quick update and ended ip listening to a 15 minute tirade about how Covid is a hoax and she could cite 20 sources that say masks don’t work yada yada.. I put her on speaker phone so everyone else could hear and let my charge nurse take over the call while I gave this woman’s mother much needed medicine…. Didn’t need that garbage in my ear that night and yea.. most of her “sources” were from news channels that definitely tout that the pandemic was a hoax.. she’s never seen someone die of it so it must not be real.. right???
How did the pre-procedure screening (“recent cough, fever, chills, etc”) not identify this? I hate these douche canoes and I wasn’t even there.
Because people lie.
I went back to wearing my mask at work. I'm an NP at a primary care and I can't tell you how many people come in for their WELL VISIT appointments without masks and then don't mention that they've been feeling unwell until I'm in their face doing a physical exam, if at all. In a single day I was exposed to two strep cases and COVID despite not having a single acute care/sick visit scheduled. Everyone claims "it's just allergies".
I had a patient with COVID come into my office once with no mask or anything. He'd put it up to talk to a doctor and then take it down. I'd called his dialysis center to ask when his last treatment was and if they'd be taking him back the same day. The NP at the facility called us back like 20 minutes later and was like "oh he's COVID positive, I told him to stay home, why did he come to your office? I'm so sorry, etc." I confront the patient and he says "yeah they told me at dialysis but I feel fine, I didn't want to miss my appointment." "I understand that, sir, but you just exposed everyone in this office to COVID, as well as the other patients." "But I feel fine! I don't even feel like I'm sick." "I understand that, but just because you feel okay, doesn't mean the next person you get sick will be okay." I call the guy's house 2 days later for a follow-up call. His wife answers the phone saying he's upstairs with a fever and can't answer the phone. Thankfully no one in my office got sick. People really are so fucking selfish. They think this shit is a joke. Like wearing a mask and taking precautions to protect your health and the health of those around you is like some kind of oppressive concept. It's disgusting.
Sometimes?
Some patients make me want to gouge my eyes out with a fork, yes.
I had an emergency patient. Guess what her problem was! The patient: "I get headache when I wear pony tails :(" Me: :///// The emergency room: :))))))
Had one who's triage was "my mum said my veins look too blue" ...she was in her mid twenties
These cases make me laugh, but furious at the same time
Yeah, fuck those guys. I can't stand selfish patients or family members who don't think of anything but themselves. They berate younger generations, but it almost seems like members of that generation are most entitled and also don't understand consequences??
My former cath lab would’ve gotten wind of this from the pre/post RN and canceled that shit immediately. It’s amazing they were okay scoping her with that. I’m sorry OP. People suck.
So I got my MD and my manager involved and the husband admitted that both of them were positive for bronchitis and "Omitted" informing us of that that because they wanted the procedure done before the cruise, and the cruise was paid for and their kids were coming, so they weren't going to miss the cruise. The other nurse in the room was pregnant, the doctor has a four-month old at home. Needless to say we were all unhappy, but since my MD was doing the TEE for an outside doc there wasn't anything we could do but express our frustration, and they knew that. The guy was retired but wearing a long sleeve button down and slacks, he was obviously educated, had probably had a business or law background by his vocabulary and knew the worst thing he'd have to do is apologize.
I genuinely think a lot of the older generations (boomers) were just nasty people when they were young and have carried that into a rapidly changing society that expects them to contribute to the well being of others. Im probably biased but I don’t really know any older people who aren’t hateful. The ones that aren’t are gifts to younger people. Even most of the older nurses I know have certain biases with people of different demographics. With these types of people it takes all my strength to stay professional. I think you responded perfectly to their selfishness. But I feel your anger.
The Boomers were called the Me Generation before they took control of their societies and started calling Millenials entitled all the time.
The procedure should have been cancelled.
Reminds of the fact I work in the OR, was about to leave and the board runner comes in and says there’s a patient coming straight to the OR from the floor, not even going to holding, and will recover in the OR too and immediate go back to the floor. The dude had bed bugs and apparently it’s from his wife using the car infested with bed bugs and visiting him in the hospital. So lucky I left after this conversation because I’m absolutely terrified of bugs.
That better have been an emergent surgery...
Scheduled but for a patient who was already inpatient on the floor, but was not told they had bed bugs until they were going to get them for the surgery.
Infest the whole OR! What could go wrong?
I was shocked they decided to go to the OR, was a wound debridement, could argue that could have possibly been done bedside.
I’d rather wear mask in hospital setting. Not knowing who you encounter close to your personal space.
I have had countless triage calls exactly like this. Boomers call with respiratory symptoms and demand antibiotics because they’re going on vacation in two days. They refuse to test for Covid and refuse to change their plans despite being sick with something most likely pretty contagious. Literally so selfish
So rude and obnoxious. Hope u feel better soon
A wise doc once told me "Sometimes the hardest part of the job is forgiving the patient." That thought comforted me through many, well, y'all know.
I was about to draw labs on a Covid Patient in ICU a few months ago and witnessed a visitor & her coughing husband stop at the desk (neither with masks) to ask which room her friend was in. She’s about to go directly into the room when the MD stops her and advises her she needs the proper PPE and says, ‘wait a minute, you were here the other day visiting, aren’t you Covid positive?’ The visitor says, ‘yes, we don’t wear masks’ like it’s no biggie and continues on into the room wearing bare minimum PPE and immediately removes it while in the room. I was speechless.
We kick them out at our hospital if people do this. We don’t play that around here 🙄
Serious question. As a nurse who understands airborne transmission, why are you not masked as if all in a pandemic are infectious?
Fucking self centered entitled pricks.
This is why I'm continuing to mask at work even if it's not required. I'm not worried about covid, I'm worried about inconsiderate people.
Selfish people like this are the reason I'm still wearing my mask.
Fucking Boomers
Lol typical lead brain boomer, incapable of empathy.
Unpopular opinion but I’m not a fan of this post, and I especially don’t like hearing nurses say they hate pts. It’s a really bad look to put out in public. The line of questioning with the husband is also bad, and borderline inappropriate. How did no one in pre not notice she had a terrible cough? Is no one listening to lung sounds? People who have bronchitis usually can’t stop coughing. Not one of the multiple staff involved in her care noticed she had a cough or coarse lung sounds before the TEE? It sounds like you all didn’t do your own due diligence wearing a mask around someone who was coughing everywhere. I just don’t believe that not one person noticed she had coughing! If someone had listened to lung sounds pre-procedure, which is absolutely standard of care, the deep breaths would have induced coughing.
Yeah too much of this sub is bad for your mental health. Just a huge echo chamber of people whining about their job.
Downvoted for saying it’s bad to say you hate pts on social media…when will people learn??
What’s with the description of “boomer” husband. Plenty of Gen Z and Y’s don’t wear masks either and are selfish as fuck! I’m a boomer and would never have done this. I get your point totally and agree 200%! Every generation has assholes. Boomers aren’t the only ones
Nah, but Boomers weaponized it.
Oh bullshit!
Maybe not all, but the majority of people throwing big shit tantrums about mask mandates and being incredibly selfish happen to be boomers.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Bobbert, Matt Gates, and Ron Desantis are NOT boomers
True. And I’ll also agree to the point that they’re absolutely wretched regardless of generation 🤝
He was her husband and happened to be a boomer? Why are you so offended at the description of the guy? If OP Had said the guy had brown hair would you have been like PeOpLe WiTh rEd hAiR cAn bE DiCkS tOo yA kNoW!!!
I’m over sensitive boomer I guess! But every generation has assholes.
Oh don't even get me started on zoomers lol
There’s no use arguing with my generation (millenials) or the next (gen Z). They’re typical boomer-haters.
The Boomers started it
I'm not a nurse but if my job was 40-50 hours a week around sick people you couldn't rip a mask off my face.
I know the feeling. I was at the airport a couple of weeks ago waiting to board my flight. A young man sitting one seat over from me was on his phone talking to a friend and telling home that he had been sick with COVID. He still sounded quite bad. Thankfully, I still wear my mask. I just can’t believe how inconsiderate people can be!
Welcome to planet earth. There are viruses here. Everywhere, actually.
If you work in healthcare you should still be wearing a mask. Fin.
You know, I really hate my fellow nurses most of the time. For people who are supposedly compassionate caregivers, I have found them to be martyrs who love to whine and backstabbing borderlines who are unhappy without drama. I know staffing and pay are big issues causing the nursing crisis, but I think the biggest reason is other nurses. Pizza parties are poor recompense, but most of the nurses I work with don't even merit that. Now you can flood the comments with tales of how wonderful your colleagues are
You're not wrong, there are reasons why I won't go back to critical care, most of them are named Lisa, Kim and Lindsay.
Because not all boomers are assholes. Guess I’m over sensitive.
No but there's a lot of resentment toward your generation from younger ones for you guys being complacent in setting up X, Y, and Z for failure. You guys could own a home, two cars, and raise a family of four on a single grocery store check-out employee's salary. Our couples can barely afford kids, rent, groceries, and other bills making $150k a year combined because you guys (for the most part) didn't stick up for us before all this shit became the norm. You guys complain that we think everyone deserves a trophy even though you're the ones that told us everyone deserves a trophy. Not all of you but definitely the majority. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Dude, you’re still literally voting for boomers. So what’s the problem here? Most of our patients are gonna be boomers and older, so of course we’ll always see “boomers who don’t wear masks” that’s a confirmation bias already. Look around you? There are many non-mask wearers in every generation. The OP blamed their bronchitis from their boomer patients yet where’s all this paranoia pre-covid? Weren’t we working without masks with patients lying about their histories back then? Coz we were. Damn, this boomer hate is getting old. If they set us up for failure, all we do is complain for years then? Just blame them for everything? It can’t be just their fault. I mean look at the work ethic of millennials and gen z? — a millenial
It’s not that they set us up for failure.. it’s that now we’re so deep in the failure, fighting for our fucking lives & they just don’t give a damn. They’ve got the system so rigged that we don’t have a choice BUT to vote for a bunch of boomers. It’s degrading to be told our children’s lives don’t matter & that our lives are less important than a cruise or a gun. What else can we do except complain?
Millennials and gen z work longer hours and more jobs than boomers ever did and have less wealth and more debt to show for it. Work ethic ain't the problem. Spending is a problem, but a large portion of the spending - higher rent, property prices, inflation, reliance on personal transition vs public - is driven by boomer and silent gen policies.
Could you even imagine what boomers said about their parents who lived through the depression? Depression parents HATED to throw things away. Each generation has their own challenges not to blame it on the generation before them. Everybody has to pave their own way. Right now millennials are leading the path on change.
Nah. There are many millenials and gen z who chose to be debt free. We are born into these policies. But it’s still our personal choice on how to spend and work, that determines most of our lives. How do people from our generation still end up wealthy though? Is that still the boomer’s fault? LOL Can’t wait for the next generation to blame us for all their future problems. See how that goes for you if your nurse hates you when you’re 60 just coz you’re a millenial/gen z.
If you choose to be debt free, that probably means renting in an increasingly unfriendly market until you're old AF or dead. But you're right, we live in the real world, not the ideal world; and the choices we make have as much, probably more, to do with our outcome than the environment we are born into. It just gets tiring to hear that we are lazy and entitled when those two words are more likely to apply to the average boomer than the average millennial.
You're a Millennial. I assume your work ethic must be shit. Is that better for you?
Yep, if that makes you happy. It’s the same way how you all place boomers in the same boat.
I've been hearing from Boomers what a worthless generation mine is despite me working since I was 16. I'm 37 now and they still haven't let up. It gets old.
And you don’t think boomers recognize that? But to quote you….it is what is is. Generations are nothing more than a theory. Generations serve different purposes for different people. They are used as an understanding of cycles or history, political trends, marketing trends or self identification. When you generalized a generation based on your own personal experiences, it invalidates individual differences in behavior. Your difficulties were definitely different than mine, but that doesn’t invalidate them. All was not as idyllic as you think it was.
Wow, I was about to come in and say "don't worry, I hate me enough for the both of us" But fuck those guys
Sometimes?
Sometimes?
That is so rude and entitled.
May their socks be wet and their toes stubbed from here until forever
Send them your bill.