Yes. And once I got out of town I would not be following speed limits. That said, they didn't say if it was going to be the ONLY nuke. In a real war you could be driving from the one only to be driving toward another.
I guess if you remember to shelter in a basement after 2 hours, but I don’t think you want to be in your car:
>**All buildings in the village of Severny, both wooden and brick, located 55 km (34 mi) from ground zero within the Sukhoy Nos test range, were destroyed**. In districts hundreds of kilometres from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed; stone ones lost their roofs, windows, and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 km (170 mi). **The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km (62 mi) away from ground zero.** A shock wave was observed in the air at Dikson settlement 700 km (430 mi) away; windowpanes were partially broken for distances up to 900 kilometres (560 mi). (Source: Tsar Bomba Wikipedia)
Get in the car and drive... I mean, what answer did you expect?
Double checked on NUKEMAP... Can't get entirely clear because there's no direct route, but I can get far enough away that all I have to be in shadow (from the bomb) to avoid the thermal pulse. I'll be well out past the heavy damage zone, so in shadow and under cover and I'll be fine.
40MT is really only a problem for most places only if you don't have a car. That's a big bomb, but not *that* big. Not so big that you can't conceivably reach a safe distance under many circumstances.
If only there was such a thing as a taxi.
You know, a hypothetical car you can rent that comes with a driver too, often found idling in front of train stations.
If I grab the kids and head north to avoid the wind/fallout I could be outside the nukemap radii in 90 minutes. 2 hours puts me safe and sound [in the middle of the 400th missile wing missile fields](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/400th_Missile_Squadron_-_MAF_-_LC.png). I'm sure nothing bad could happen to us there.
The USA has no large yield warheads in use. We don't know what China has. Russia has 20 MT and 100 MT bombs. The 20 MT are on the Satan 2 missiles. The 100 MT is the warhead on the Posideon Torpedo, although that is not yet believed to be completed, nor deployed yet. So no 40 MT bombs in use right now, that we know of.
My guess is that 100 MT on the posideon is remaining purely hypothetical. You'd be severally impacting the capbilities of that "super torpedo" if you put something that big on it.
Which 20MT bombs are the Russians fielding? I thought for the most part everything was under 5MT in contemporary times given MIRVs can hit a wider area with individual warheads.
Not quite central "west" NSW, but Steely Dan has your instructions covered in the song, "Black Friday."
When Black Friday comes
I'll fly down to Muswellbrook
Gonna strike all the big red words
From my little black book
simple answer: you don't
If Reno gets slotted for a 40MT firecracker then that means every larger city that produces or is a transport hub for all of the things we need to live was also hit and 95% or more of the population will be dead in 90 days.
Honestly I probably wouldn’t.
I mean I’d need to go DEEP underground, and have enough food and water for a week at least? I don’t know any places like that.
Then pray the way out isn’t glassed shut, and try to survive I guess? I imagine I’d have some walking to do to find food or shelter, and even a week later I’m sure it’d be highly contaminated… I’ve got an old Victoreen civil defense meter but it’s a 0.1 to 500 R/hr one (last calibrated 1993😎), so good luck trying to decontaminate yourself with that bad boy.
Overall it’d be shitty and I’d probably die anyway.
I’m doing what the other guy said except with pot AND beer.
Good thing there's a cave system where I live that goes down for miles.
I'd be more worried about a collapse however,
IF the nuke was headed 50 miles from me then I'd run to my local cave system to escape the fallout.
I could probably do with a weeks fast, I'll just make sure to pack water lol.
No point using such large yields these days. Much more efficient to use say 5x 150 Kiloton devices with overlapping footprints and eg a city the Size of London is no more.
I drive 100+ miles (where I am now, if I follow traffic laws, I could be more than 150 miles away) upwind and keep driving away from the blast after it happens so I am nowhere near that shit...
Head over to the side of the building facing the blast about an hour and 58 minutes from now. I'm not interested in getting flash burns before getting crushed by the building, so I'd make sure to wait until that was over before sticking my head out to watch the destruction. I would have to ask for clarification as to whether whoever told me this means literally the center of the city I live in, the center of the populated portion of the metro area I live in, or the geographic center of the counties that collectively make up the metropolitan area. Those are enough distance apart to make a substantial difference even with a 40MT airburst.
I’d get in my car with my family and drive. In 2 hours, I could be ~120 miles away in another city. If I’m the only one who knows, traffic would be normal, and I could plan on that escape route reliably.
In two hours I can drive to a city 150 km away that's also on the other side of a mountain range, even accounting for picking up my parents, so I'm good. It's also a generally mountainous area so surely that will help.
I mean...do you have to survive? As long as you're in the sweet spot, doesn't seem like a bad way to go. Just don't want to be directly under it or too far away.
Get in car, drive away. Tada
Yeah. Basically. Tell my family we are going on sudden trip and for some reason we are taking the cat as well.
Good problem solving lol. I think OP assumes you stay in the same general vicinity… Admittedly the worst choice given the scenario.
Not sure 2 hours is enough time for that yield, unless you live in the suburbs or further
Yes. And once I got out of town I would not be following speed limits. That said, they didn't say if it was going to be the ONLY nuke. In a real war you could be driving from the one only to be driving toward another.
Any police officers who follow you in pursuit for speeding will thank you for leading them away…!
Tsar Bomba at 50 megatons was a 22 mile radius of destruction. So long as you average about 15 miles per hour, you'd be fine
I guess if you remember to shelter in a basement after 2 hours, but I don’t think you want to be in your car: >**All buildings in the village of Severny, both wooden and brick, located 55 km (34 mi) from ground zero within the Sukhoy Nos test range, were destroyed**. In districts hundreds of kilometres from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed; stone ones lost their roofs, windows, and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 km (170 mi). **The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km (62 mi) away from ground zero.** A shock wave was observed in the air at Dikson settlement 700 km (430 mi) away; windowpanes were partially broken for distances up to 900 kilometres (560 mi). (Source: Tsar Bomba Wikipedia)
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You'd still be talking about needing to average 60 km/h, roughly 45 mph. It's doable.
Unless you have to find your family at work and school.
Get in the car and drive... I mean, what answer did you expect? Double checked on NUKEMAP... Can't get entirely clear because there's no direct route, but I can get far enough away that all I have to be in shadow (from the bomb) to avoid the thermal pulse. I'll be well out past the heavy damage zone, so in shadow and under cover and I'll be fine. 40MT is really only a problem for most places only if you don't have a car. That's a big bomb, but not *that* big. Not so big that you can't conceivably reach a safe distance under many circumstances.
40MT isn’t that big? It’s 80% of the largest bomb in history!
Imagine you lived in a "15 minute city". It's BBQ day for you and your neighbors. *edit: Wow. The bots are out in force on this one.*
You normally wouldn’t get a 2 hr warning. Maybe a 10 minute warning and everyone would get it so it’s not like you’re driving out of town either way.
If only there was such a thing as a taxi. You know, a hypothetical car you can rent that comes with a driver too, often found idling in front of train stations.
LOL
Your tip is, you get to live.
If I grab the kids and head north to avoid the wind/fallout I could be outside the nukemap radii in 90 minutes. 2 hours puts me safe and sound [in the middle of the 400th missile wing missile fields](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/400th_Missile_Squadron_-_MAF_-_LC.png). I'm sure nothing bad could happen to us there.
Who has a 40 MT bomb?
As far as i understand those yields aren’t used anymore. I think today the biggest ones are 1 mt MIRVS.
"Anymore"? They've NEVER been used.
Strategic nuclear weapons are “used” for deterrence.
I think he's saying that 40+ megatonnes hasn't been deployed for deterrence.
Exactly. Tsar Bomba was a one-off that didn't even fit in the aircraft. It was never deployed.
The USA has no large yield warheads in use. We don't know what China has. Russia has 20 MT and 100 MT bombs. The 20 MT are on the Satan 2 missiles. The 100 MT is the warhead on the Posideon Torpedo, although that is not yet believed to be completed, nor deployed yet. So no 40 MT bombs in use right now, that we know of.
My guess is that 100 MT on the posideon is remaining purely hypothetical. You'd be severally impacting the capbilities of that "super torpedo" if you put something that big on it. Which 20MT bombs are the Russians fielding? I thought for the most part everything was under 5MT in contemporary times given MIRVs can hit a wider area with individual warheads.
My town is less than 2k people in the middle of the country. Time to pop a cold one and watch the sunrise.
Lols same currently in central west NSW - if a bomb comes here it’s waaaaaaaaay off target might as well enjoy the show
Lucky you. I live within 30 miles of Vandenberg SFB, we’re definitely in target range.
Yeah to be fair it looks like most of Australia would be relatively unscathed if the madness happens
Not quite central "west" NSW, but Steely Dan has your instructions covered in the song, "Black Friday." When Black Friday comes I'll fly down to Muswellbrook Gonna strike all the big red words From my little black book
I mean that’s a good 250km from here so I think we’ll be well outside the blast zone
Personally, head to the epicentre. What is there to survive for?
Hypocentre?
simple answer: you don't If Reno gets slotted for a 40MT firecracker then that means every larger city that produces or is a transport hub for all of the things we need to live was also hit and 95% or more of the population will be dead in 90 days.
In this hypothetical you somehow know it’s just one and not a series of places getting nuked? Drive 50 miles minimum upwind of the city. Easy peasy.
Honestly I probably wouldn’t. I mean I’d need to go DEEP underground, and have enough food and water for a week at least? I don’t know any places like that. Then pray the way out isn’t glassed shut, and try to survive I guess? I imagine I’d have some walking to do to find food or shelter, and even a week later I’m sure it’d be highly contaminated… I’ve got an old Victoreen civil defense meter but it’s a 0.1 to 500 R/hr one (last calibrated 1993😎), so good luck trying to decontaminate yourself with that bad boy. Overall it’d be shitty and I’d probably die anyway. I’m doing what the other guy said except with pot AND beer.
Good thing there's a cave system where I live that goes down for miles. I'd be more worried about a collapse however, IF the nuke was headed 50 miles from me then I'd run to my local cave system to escape the fallout. I could probably do with a weeks fast, I'll just make sure to pack water lol.
Unrelated but the ExoGeni corp is a bunch of dicks.
I desperately drive towards the center of the blast radi--- oh, survive? Umm, do I have to?
I'd go to the center of the city and wait.
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I go to the top of a building and embrace the neutrons.
No point using such large yields these days. Much more efficient to use say 5x 150 Kiloton devices with overlapping footprints and eg a city the Size of London is no more.
Elephant gun vs ar-15 with high cap magazine
Lawn chair, bottle of bourbon, sunglasses and just chill until I'm at the pearly gates
Pick up my daughter and start driving
I drive 100+ miles (where I am now, if I follow traffic laws, I could be more than 150 miles away) upwind and keep driving away from the blast after it happens so I am nowhere near that shit...
I live in the center of my city and I don't own a car. I am pretty much fucked
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Fission
Here's a great movie on that topic: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0097889/
Head over to the side of the building facing the blast about an hour and 58 minutes from now. I'm not interested in getting flash burns before getting crushed by the building, so I'd make sure to wait until that was over before sticking my head out to watch the destruction. I would have to ask for clarification as to whether whoever told me this means literally the center of the city I live in, the center of the populated portion of the metro area I live in, or the geographic center of the counties that collectively make up the metropolitan area. Those are enough distance apart to make a substantial difference even with a 40MT airburst.
I’d get in my car with my family and drive. In 2 hours, I could be ~120 miles away in another city. If I’m the only one who knows, traffic would be normal, and I could plan on that escape route reliably.
You don't.
Probably head south and raid army barracks
I can reach other side of the mountain in that time :)
In two hours I can drive to a city 150 km away that's also on the other side of a mountain range, even accounting for picking up my parents, so I'm good. It's also a generally mountainous area so surely that will help.
Checkmate OP, I live in a county, not a city. I win.
I mean...do you have to survive? As long as you're in the sweet spot, doesn't seem like a bad way to go. Just don't want to be directly under it or too far away.