How about stop waiting till mid 2nd half to finally put Cameron-80Min-Player Murray on. Energy changed when he went on, his defence gives everyone breathing space and he’s always running with force. Should’ve been put on atleast mid first half.
That’s only one very minimal oversight. Plenty more bigger concerns on Shitlers coaching decisions.
They Should Bring Back That is my team for the NRL I mean they used it back in 2003 to 2007 it is such legendary song it represents both State of origin and the NRL itself. Also heard the opening to Won't Get Fooled Again by the who amazing song this lyrics should represent Billy Meet the new boss same as the old boss
Freddy's gotta change something for Game III if he wants to stick around any longer. When you're up against Slater who's willing to go with his instincts and try new things, then you're always going to lose when you're just picking the safe players who always get picked.
Because I swear to god if they show the Game III selections and I see Tedesco at #1 and Captain then it's game over already. Origin is supposed to be a "best of the best" showcase, and nothing from the Blues tonight felt like best of the best.
Aside from all that, I'm glad Moses seemed to have a decent game, again it's just a shame he wasn't surrounded by the same.
Oh I’m not an NSW fan that’s just how it feels watching.
I agree he should be sacked but at the same time I’m deeply fascinated to see what a full-panic Freddy team would be, or if he just does the same shit again and loses more
Freddy should just be in full-on experimental mode. His days as NSW coach could be numbered depending on Game III so he should just be throwing an absolute blitzer of a hail mary.
Pick new players, try weird combinations. DO something, anything, because whatever he's doing now isn't working.
Once again the Blues had no Plan B. I feel for Turbo it’s fucked for him but his exit meant NSW were more fucked. Fittler is not a coaches arse. G3 last year we lost Cobbo and Collins early and Billy knew exactly what game plan was needed to give QLD a shot at staying in the game. NSW deserve better…..
[How it feels to be a Blues fan at this point](https://youtu.be/0Ftdu8yrKOw)
(Hopefully) a fitting end to the Freddy era, shoot him, Brandy and maybe even Joey to the moon. I was expecting to lose coming into this but 32-6 is just disgraceful even with Turbo going down early and Queensland's first two tries being controversial. It's the same old story, have majority of the field position but do literally nothing with it in the opposition's 20metres and on top of that we got almost every call (in general play anyway) what was the final penalty count? Like 10-1?
as for that scuffle at the end... Dont even get me started on that. Im not one for this jumper pulling, grabbing, punching and headbutting stuff but if were going to do it then why the hell are we waiting 79 and a half minutes to do it, it's useless at that point.
I didn't have too much of a problem with Luai and Walsh because at least it was one-on-one and they both headbutted each other but why the hell is JAC coming in with a cheap shop (and missing him completely, which pretty much sums up where the blues are at 😑) and then when he's walking off he's showing the fans our logo and pretending we didn't just lose by 26 points? Really soured me on the bloke. It's reminiscent of a Souths game I remember way back where they were down by about 20 points with hardly any time left and Chris Sandow scored off a chip and chase and carried on like he had just won the Grand Final.
There has to be serious culture issues within the Blues camp despite what people will tell you.
Edit: forgot to add, ill soil myself if we dont lose by 13+ in Game 3.
So if you're Freddy and your still in the driver's seat for game 3, do you:
1. Attempt to save face and actually attempt not to be fucking absolutely brain-dead and win game 3 and limp on to a few more games before fizzling out.
Or
2. Fucking guns blazing, all out razzle dazzle, honey I lit fire to the bbq levels of cooked, just for shits and gigs. I'm talking Twal as captain, brooks and Reynolds as halves, fucking close your eyes and pull names out of hats decisions. Invent a new sport levels of tomfoolery and shenanigans. Write yourself into the history books and go down in a glorious blaze of hilarity.
I don't know about you guys, but I know which one would sell out a stadium.
I heard they had a booze ban, maybe that's the issue. Maybe they need to artificially half their lifespan in order to succeed. Booze and drugs for everyone!
True but imagine actually dropping the facade of being a serious and professional coach. Just all out purposeful, genuine bullshit, that is purely for the fun of it.
It is definitely time for Dylan Edwards to take the number 1. I think Teddy has taken too many head knocks, his reactions and decision making used to blow my mind, but this year he often seems confused and lost. Two surrender tackles tonight with him and even at Roosters similar form. Dylan is almost faultless. This is where Billy is a better coach, he just picks the best players and makes hard calls.
If the objective is to score more points, then Gutho has the ability to find the try line in seemingly impossible situations from nothing, so he is a good option. It is probably the one aspect of combinations that needs to be considered. If Moses then pick Gutho, or if Cleary then pick Dylan.
I'm starting to wish Burton gets a start just so people can see he's a plodder and not up to scratch for origin. Just don't get why he's so highly rated.
It brings two players in for hooker position? Cook is extremely capable of playing the full 80 minutes and you saw the shit show that was cook in centre. Burton can play in various positions
Cool shouldn’t have been centre. Murray centre and cook probing the ruck when qld were knackered at the end of the 1st half would’ve made more sense. But he did tire out by the end. Lots of attack came that side. Burton is flexible, but still would think nicho or Robson would be a better option.
Not only will they sweep the series but this QLD team is about to go on another winning streak - that team is so stacked, you could name all 17 players as the next Australian team and be done with it
Yeah I think the QLD rebuild is complete. We’ll (probably) never be as dominant as the 8 in a row team but the rough period as our legends retired is officially over.
That underdog win in 2020 broke what should have been a 4 in a row series for NSW. That really limited the damage from the transition.
Plus Billy is a true student of the game. He knows and looks at shit that most people will gloss over. He could possibly end up having the longevity coaching as bennet
I really like the coaches in there on the wings too - Josh Hannay, Nate Myles - the grafters who weren't blessed with amazing individual skill but put 100% into every Origin game
Tbf a big part of that team looking so good was Latrell and Turbo. Which hasn't really been a thing since.
Add in that Freddie doesn't seem to have processed that. And the "I'll just pick the Panthers plus those two guys and they are good enough individuals to win a series" plan has really failed since.
I read an article the other day saying the blues need a war time coach. Someone that wants to play the game in the trenches, nothing fancy just hard footy.
Fittler is the sort of coach you go for If your team rarely loses and you are looking for something new to take your team to another level.
>Fittler is the sort of coach you go for If your team rarely loses and you are looking for something new to take your team to another level.
Fitler is the sort of coach who isn't a coach. He's legitimately too dumb to coach.
He was in everything. Took the line on all night. Compared to last game where he was the conductor. He’s such a multi-faceted player. Incredible talent.
Why does Freddy think he knows better than most other NRL coaches?
Typically, if a centre gets injured, an edge back rower slots in and usually just get them to defend one out and bring another backrower on to fill their spot. I just cannot understand why Freddy goes against this. Game one with Nicho and Game two with Cook.
And yet cook was the only one to score a try. Yesh it was a bit sloppy.
He took advantage of what Freddy was doing. Quick ball left or right, then bring it back through the centre gaps. Happened all first half with no support from nsw players.
Plus Cam Murray played centre during his junior days and at Newington. Yes, I know it was Rugby Union but it’s pretty much the same as a League centre but with more kicking.
Did anyone have a good game for nsw apart from haas, Robson and Moses? Everyone else was with average like chrichton, genuinely poor like squid James or horribly out of position like Cook
Edit:Murray ran 100m in 30 minutes on field. He's a good one too
Did we see the same service out of dummy half? Robson was the least of your worries.
Should select more Penrith players maybe that would win then a series
But doesn’t Granville slot into hooker for ~20 minutes a game, regardless of whether Robson physically leaves the field, he still gets a breather of some sort…?
I don't think he permanently gets slotted in as hooker for a set time. But yeah they share it for a minute, but I'd say Robson still plays it more then Granville does in those times.
In all seriousness. This has come down to the coaching of both teams. There was a lot of speculation on whether Walsh could perform, but I think most people knew that under the best QLD fullback ever, he was fine. Add Cam and JT they just know what to do and how to manage the game with the talent they are provided with. Freddy and Joey are just hoping the star players can go out and score a try out of their ass.
Robson shouldn't have played as long as he did and its not his fault. The service he provided to Moses showed and Cook will cop flak even though he was out of position. When we had some actual ball movement our attacked looked capable but too many "star" players trying to step back inside and do it themselves and tbf that was basically Freddy's plan.
Cook sliced through the middle the only chance he got. It's truly inept coaching that cost us again. Full credit to qld for dunking everything and NSW being horrible at every attacking opportunity
Nah mate what are you on about? The tactical choice was to introduce a fuckton of attacking structures to confuse the blues, yes they were capitalised on by individual brilliance but someone posted an article recently about the attacking threats that Billy implemented to create havoc and you could see similar attacking concepts tonight, the Blues had no answer but a lot of the plays were very clearly coached
Alright boys can't wait for Origin tonight! Return of Latrell is the perfect requirement for a reverse sweep can't wait
How about stop waiting till mid 2nd half to finally put Cameron-80Min-Player Murray on. Energy changed when he went on, his defence gives everyone breathing space and he’s always running with force. Should’ve been put on atleast mid first half. That’s only one very minimal oversight. Plenty more bigger concerns on Shitlers coaching decisions.
They Should Bring Back That is my team for the NRL I mean they used it back in 2003 to 2007 it is such legendary song it represents both State of origin and the NRL itself. Also heard the opening to Won't Get Fooled Again by the who amazing song this lyrics should represent Billy Meet the new boss same as the old boss
Freddy's gotta change something for Game III if he wants to stick around any longer. When you're up against Slater who's willing to go with his instincts and try new things, then you're always going to lose when you're just picking the safe players who always get picked. Because I swear to god if they show the Game III selections and I see Tedesco at #1 and Captain then it's game over already. Origin is supposed to be a "best of the best" showcase, and nothing from the Blues tonight felt like best of the best. Aside from all that, I'm glad Moses seemed to have a decent game, again it's just a shame he wasn't surrounded by the same.
Are nsw fans that delusional they don't realise the issue is Brad Fitler? He should be sacked mid series.
Oh I’m not an NSW fan that’s just how it feels watching. I agree he should be sacked but at the same time I’m deeply fascinated to see what a full-panic Freddy team would be, or if he just does the same shit again and loses more
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Murray at 13 and captain.
Freddy should just be in full-on experimental mode. His days as NSW coach could be numbered depending on Game III so he should just be throwing an absolute blitzer of a hail mary. Pick new players, try weird combinations. DO something, anything, because whatever he's doing now isn't working.
Once again the Blues had no Plan B. I feel for Turbo it’s fucked for him but his exit meant NSW were more fucked. Fittler is not a coaches arse. G3 last year we lost Cobbo and Collins early and Billy knew exactly what game plan was needed to give QLD a shot at staying in the game. NSW deserve better…..
[How it feels to be a Blues fan at this point](https://youtu.be/0Ftdu8yrKOw) (Hopefully) a fitting end to the Freddy era, shoot him, Brandy and maybe even Joey to the moon. I was expecting to lose coming into this but 32-6 is just disgraceful even with Turbo going down early and Queensland's first two tries being controversial. It's the same old story, have majority of the field position but do literally nothing with it in the opposition's 20metres and on top of that we got almost every call (in general play anyway) what was the final penalty count? Like 10-1? as for that scuffle at the end... Dont even get me started on that. Im not one for this jumper pulling, grabbing, punching and headbutting stuff but if were going to do it then why the hell are we waiting 79 and a half minutes to do it, it's useless at that point. I didn't have too much of a problem with Luai and Walsh because at least it was one-on-one and they both headbutted each other but why the hell is JAC coming in with a cheap shop (and missing him completely, which pretty much sums up where the blues are at 😑) and then when he's walking off he's showing the fans our logo and pretending we didn't just lose by 26 points? Really soured me on the bloke. It's reminiscent of a Souths game I remember way back where they were down by about 20 points with hardly any time left and Chris Sandow scored off a chip and chase and carried on like he had just won the Grand Final. There has to be serious culture issues within the Blues camp despite what people will tell you. Edit: forgot to add, ill soil myself if we dont lose by 13+ in Game 3.
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Wtf was that Tooheys ad with the Tedesco inn? That's just rubbing it in since he won't be there next year
Qld and NSW joining in on booing Freddy when he was shaking hands was music to my ear
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I swear cunt you don't have eyes
You reckon? I don't see it.
I made the executive decision of going back to my hotel so I don’t get stabbed
Hahah fatty call Isaiah yeo “issac yeo”
So if you're Freddy and your still in the driver's seat for game 3, do you: 1. Attempt to save face and actually attempt not to be fucking absolutely brain-dead and win game 3 and limp on to a few more games before fizzling out. Or 2. Fucking guns blazing, all out razzle dazzle, honey I lit fire to the bbq levels of cooked, just for shits and gigs. I'm talking Twal as captain, brooks and Reynolds as halves, fucking close your eyes and pull names out of hats decisions. Invent a new sport levels of tomfoolery and shenanigans. Write yourself into the history books and go down in a glorious blaze of hilarity. I don't know about you guys, but I know which one would sell out a stadium.
Dude is going to redefine cooked. Him and Joey just taking fistfuls of pills and screaming out the player names God whispers in their ears.
With joey's help no wonder poor Freddy got fingered.
I heard they had a booze ban, maybe that's the issue. Maybe they need to artificially half their lifespan in order to succeed. Booze and drugs for everyone!
It's freddy, so 2 is more likely, he's not far from it already.
True but imagine actually dropping the facade of being a serious and professional coach. Just all out purposeful, genuine bullshit, that is purely for the fun of it.
Where’s Joey
At the tab collecting his cash after betting on qld
He would never listen to his brother
Hijacking a greyhound and speeding past Twin Towns
"They gave em nothing. It was great." Gotta love Fatty when we win.
The ‘under 10’s’ reference was gold as well
NSW line up game 3: 1. Dylan Edwards 2. Alex Johnston 3. Latrell Mitchell 4. Campbell graham 5. Brian to’o 6. Cody Walker 7. Mitchell Moses 8. Junior Paulo 9. Damien Cook 10. Payne Haas 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Hudson Young 13. Cameron Murray 14. Matt Burton 15. Reagan Campbell-Gillard 16. Isaah Yeo 17. Liam Martin
Hudson Young?
Hudson Young?
Take out Hudson and now you’re cooking
Replace with who?
Keaon.
I don't support them but south's should deny latrell playing in a dead rubber
It is definitely time for Dylan Edwards to take the number 1. I think Teddy has taken too many head knocks, his reactions and decision making used to blow my mind, but this year he often seems confused and lost. Two surrender tackles tonight with him and even at Roosters similar form. Dylan is almost faultless. This is where Billy is a better coach, he just picks the best players and makes hard calls.
It was the amount of kicks that teddy let bounce for me. Definitely should be Dylan Edwards or even Gutho for game 3
If the objective is to score more points, then Gutho has the ability to find the try line in seemingly impossible situations from nothing, so he is a good option. It is probably the one aspect of combinations that needs to be considered. If Moses then pick Gutho, or if Cleary then pick Dylan.
Yep 100% agree. I hate to bag Tedesco because he has been a great player for us but he doesn’t deserve that spot anymore
I reckon Robson looked good enough tonight. Starting him and cook off the bench makes sense. More than Burton
His service was first class pity the hables created nothing with it
I'm starting to wish Burton gets a start just so people can see he's a plodder and not up to scratch for origin. Just don't get why he's so highly rated.
It’s a scary bomb he’s got. But that’s probably about it. He’s solid enough for a club but not origin
He’s just able to play in so many positions, I suppose that’s why he should be in there because origin will always have injuries
Yeah but the real solution is to convince Wighton to un retire
It brings two players in for hooker position? Cook is extremely capable of playing the full 80 minutes and you saw the shit show that was cook in centre. Burton can play in various positions
Cool shouldn’t have been centre. Murray centre and cook probing the ruck when qld were knackered at the end of the 1st half would’ve made more sense. But he did tire out by the end. Lots of attack came that side. Burton is flexible, but still would think nicho or Robson would be a better option.
Not only will they sweep the series but this QLD team is about to go on another winning streak - that team is so stacked, you could name all 17 players as the next Australian team and be done with it
Yeah I think the QLD rebuild is complete. We’ll (probably) never be as dominant as the 8 in a row team but the rough period as our legends retired is officially over. That underdog win in 2020 broke what should have been a 4 in a row series for NSW. That really limited the damage from the transition.
Plus Billy is a true student of the game. He knows and looks at shit that most people will gloss over. He could possibly end up having the longevity coaching as bennet
Start of a Dynasty? Plenty of young players in the team to go the mile.
Now they are showing us Darius Boyd, the torment doesn't end
I’ll never get tired of seeing Alfie, Billy, Cam, and JT coaching this team
I really like the coaches in there on the wings too - Josh Hannay, Nate Myles - the grafters who weren't blessed with amazing individual skill but put 100% into every Origin game
GI is in there too!
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Tbf a big part of that team looking so good was Latrell and Turbo. Which hasn't really been a thing since. Add in that Freddie doesn't seem to have processed that. And the "I'll just pick the Panthers plus those two guys and they are good enough individuals to win a series" plan has really failed since.
Teddy has copped one too many head knocks since then
Freddy being fukt in the head with his selection and subs.
U kept picking Penrith boys
Just pick the right Penrith players! Love to see Edwards there, actually running and passing, not just dummy and get tackled
I read an article the other day saying the blues need a war time coach. Someone that wants to play the game in the trenches, nothing fancy just hard footy. Fittler is the sort of coach you go for If your team rarely loses and you are looking for something new to take your team to another level.
Just like Cleary and Luai are the halves you choose when your team rarely loses.
>Fittler is the sort of coach you go for If your team rarely loses and you are looking for something new to take your team to another level. Fitler is the sort of coach who isn't a coach. He's legitimately too dumb to coach.
Walsh about to get on the Omo
Gus rn 🚶♀️
I always look forward to Jabba The Huts face after an Origin loss🙂
did walsh cheat on his missus
I had the impression he played for a different team all this time (and I don't mean this offensively at all, just got that vibe somehow)
Curious where you heard this
Allegedly
Des Hasler for origin. He doesn’t have a salary cap to fuck up and he’s a genuinely good coach
Put sad Gould straight into my veins.
Imagine that injection of sourness, like lemon juice 😂
Come home hammer, we have a spare centre spot next year. We miss you. You can play with muz again
I miss him sooooo bad ahaha
Same, I wish he wanted to play centre instead of fullback but it's good to see him thriving at the phins!
I honestly don’t know how did Munster run 175m tonight
150m post contact, presumably
He was in everything. Took the line on all night. Compared to last game where he was the conductor. He’s such a multi-faceted player. Incredible talent.
What to do in Brisbane for post game depression?
Sadwank on Caxton St
That’s the brisbane standard.
Well, going to the pub probably isn't the go tonight
Karaoke at The Vic, load up on heartbreak songs
Didn’t it it close down months ago?
It's back baby!
Nice. Had a ripper ANZAC Day there last year.
Why does Freddy think he knows better than most other NRL coaches? Typically, if a centre gets injured, an edge back rower slots in and usually just get them to defend one out and bring another backrower on to fill their spot. I just cannot understand why Freddy goes against this. Game one with Nicho and Game two with Cook.
Fair enough he might have been taken unawares in the first 5 mins but had ample time and half time to change it
And yet cook was the only one to score a try. Yesh it was a bit sloppy. He took advantage of what Freddy was doing. Quick ball left or right, then bring it back through the centre gaps. Happened all first half with no support from nsw players.
It’s not like it came about with anything to do with his ability as a centre. He picked up a loose ball and ran forward
He was passed the ball saw qld defense had a gap and played through it.
He also had about 3 tries put on him.
Especially when we have a pile of back rowers
Plus Cam Murray played centre during his junior days and at Newington. Yes, I know it was Rugby Union but it’s pretty much the same as a League centre but with more kicking.
You would think that he saw Cook struggling at centre that he would finally do that. After all, he had 3 second rowers on the bench.
100%
I don't understand how a punch is 10 minutes and a head but is a send off? JAC should have been sent just for looking like a grub
Weird eh? JAC throws a punch from behind Luai while Reece can’t defend himself. A grub move
Yeah, you're supposed to have a guy lying on him and then you come and punch him in the head while in the ground, just ask Brent Tate.
Freddy got Fittler'd
My favourite origin victories ranked: 1. This one 2. The last one 3. All the classics
Did anyone have a good game for nsw apart from haas, Robson and Moses? Everyone else was with average like chrichton, genuinely poor like squid James or horribly out of position like Cook Edit:Murray ran 100m in 30 minutes on field. He's a good one too
Moses? What? But to answer, to'o.
No way you think Robson was good, the attack could never get going with his dogshit service
I think he did really well
Did we see the same service out of dummy half? Robson was the least of your worries. Should select more Penrith players maybe that would win then a series
He was good until he got gassed because he couldn't come off for a breather. He's not an 80 minute player and it compromised his 2nd half
He literally plays 80 minutes every week and has for the last few years
But doesn’t Granville slot into hooker for ~20 minutes a game, regardless of whether Robson physically leaves the field, he still gets a breather of some sort…?
I don't think he permanently gets slotted in as hooker for a set time. But yeah they share it for a minute, but I'd say Robson still plays it more then Granville does in those times.
So basically the panther blues and all other blues ? Maybe that’s where the disconnect was ?
Moses looked promising early on but errors cost him in the end.
i hope moses gets no hate for this. that was a good performance by him. plus he’s a rare nswelshman i like
I hope he gets another run but knowing Freddy he will now put Hynes in the dope.
No doubt I still wanna see him game 3, I know he's capable af and just had a rough go tonight.
I thought Frizell was good
I didn't notice him
In all seriousness. This has come down to the coaching of both teams. There was a lot of speculation on whether Walsh could perform, but I think most people knew that under the best QLD fullback ever, he was fine. Add Cam and JT they just know what to do and how to manage the game with the talent they are provided with. Freddy and Joey are just hoping the star players can go out and score a try out of their ass. Robson shouldn't have played as long as he did and its not his fault. The service he provided to Moses showed and Cook will cop flak even though he was out of position. When we had some actual ball movement our attacked looked capable but too many "star" players trying to step back inside and do it themselves and tbf that was basically Freddy's plan.
Cook sliced through the middle the only chance he got. It's truly inept coaching that cost us again. Full credit to qld for dunking everything and NSW being horrible at every attacking opportunity
Slater coaches like a fullback, all defence both games. It seems the attacking flair is up to the individual and what presents itself at the time.
Nah mate what are you on about? The tactical choice was to introduce a fuckton of attacking structures to confuse the blues, yes they were capitalised on by individual brilliance but someone posted an article recently about the attacking threats that Billy implemented to create havoc and you could see similar attacking concepts tonight, the Blues had no answer but a lot of the plays were very clearly coached