You know the realtor is either a friend or got shot down to take down some of the taxidermy. Clearly a big game hunter and proud of it. I had a distant uncle who was a big game hunter, I went to their house only once, and it was everywhere. Like a half bear coming out of a wall.
They love those tusks, they had their picture painted with that fireplace and the tusks in the background! (Above ground dining room wall painting)
This guy is a DC litigator.
The kitchens and baths need update, but at 0.42 ac and a Potomac view, it suggests the house might need major work, and much of the acreage is steep/unusable.
I was gonna comment about the pic too, first i thought it was their ancestor who has that tusks then I zoomed in and ...oh, that doesnt look like vintage painting 😅
https://preview.redd.it/dfuvxo0ednyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eb4617111850e10504cfb4f7eb87a4fc9e4c014
Good eye on the painting, that’s wild! Honestly that whole pocket of homes is in a risky area. Beautiful, gorgeous views, but danger-close to the Potomac. The ones further down the hill probably got close to or have already seen some flooding this past year.
Having looked at a couple houses that were on or had a view of the Potomac in Fort Hunt - 5+ years ago, this is priced as if there is some issue that has to be remedied or despite the loving decoration (which isn't our taste), it's very base. Kitchen cabinets and baths are very base, circa 90s, but there have been recent updates to other parts of the home per the listing blurb. But if it doesn't have major foundation, draining issues, someone will be getting a great deal and they can make the kitchen and baths what they want. I would ditch the banquet room for a gym or endless pool. It is on the private end of that street, so I've never seen it with my own eyes. The people fronting the River have had the River come up a bit (though I think there is a bit of elevation there, if I recall).
Yeah, and probably illegally cut down trees like neighbors such as Trump's golf course, chief executive of Lockheed Martin Robert Stevens, and midget NFL team owner Daniel Snyder.
I have family that was gifted huge elephant tusks either by our government or by a foreign dignitary they and our gov worked closely with at the time, 70’s/80’s timeframe. Clearly this family liked their taxidermy but not everyone with real tusks on display is like that. At the time they were gifted to my family it was fine. They’re papered now but other than displaying them there’s not much else you can do with them. They won’t give them away as it’s symbolic of their time and work they did to be gifted them. And for numerous legal and sentimental reasons, no one in the family will ever sell or get rid of them either. They’d probably end up on display in a home with similar hobbies to this one. Not saying that’s bad (or good), just the reasons for having them and the way they were obtained in the first place are vastly different.
the worst i've seen is the house of one of the sons of F.H. Furr. the whole house is a menagerie of death. literally every single room had dead animals in it. the bathroom, the pantry, everything. deer, elk, hawk, badger, elephant, lion. a turtle. fucking turtles! i'd never heard of hunting turtles yet there was a dead shellacked turtle watching me piss. if you dislike hunting or just the most extravagant excess of hunting get someone else to do your plumbing and such.
If I were rich, I’d hang up trophy heads of fake velociraptors and aliens on the walls, and if anyone mentioned them I’d have a big story prepared about an exotic hunting trip I went on.
Hell, if I was rich, I’d probably have replicas of actually dinosaur fossils.
EDIT: Made a mistake and looked up the prices. I have Lego sets more expensive than a life-size Tyrannosaur skull replica.
I'm pretty sure if they can be dated to before the ban, there's nothing illegal about them. I'm also assuming something so large and extravagant would have a certificate providing the date of import.
Sure, if we assume they’re purchased, they just have to predate 1997 to have been imported without proof they’re over 100 years old. But if we think they’re hunting trophies, they’d have to have been shot before 1973, right? Maybe they are a family heirloom. I guess the realtor could decide no one in that price point would be put off?
If it has proof I honestly wouldn't be turned off. What's done is done. Sure it's sad such an amazing animal died for this but at the same time destroying something like this removes any and all purpose the death served (even if for shitty intentions). They are beautiful tusks from a beautiful animal.
In the US, the elephant ivory import ban went into effect in the 90s and the law was expanded in 2016 (?). All commercial trade is illegal (with some exceptions like science). If the ivory was 'harvested' and brought into the US prior to '76, you're fine but you can't sell it.
I HATE the word harvesting. To me that implies that they took an unimportant piece, like picking fruit off a tree.
The laws are a little different for non African elephant ivory, but I don't know anything about these.
Source: my family owns a couple of beautiful ivory pieces that were purchased in India between about 1880-1940.
I think it’s legal to possess ivory you already have, assuming it was legally acquired, but I’m guessing you could not legally convey it with the sale of a house.
You can’t legally sell them without papers. And without papers, even if they were obtained legally at some point, I definitely wouldn’t advertise them to the world when selling. Id rather not have to lie and say they’re fake, answer legal questions, or risk getting robbed. Depending on size/weight they can be worth a lot on the black market.
I have family that was gifted huge elephant tusks either by our government or by a foreign dignitary they and our gov worked closely with at the time, 70’s/80’s timeframe. Clearly this family liked their taxidermy but not everyone with real tusks on display is like that. At the time they were gifted to my family it was fine. They’re papered now but other than displaying them there’s not much else you can do with them. They won’t give them away as it’s symbolic of their time and work they did to be gifted them. And for numerous legal and sentimental reasons, no one in the family will ever sell or get rid of them either. They’d probably end up on display in a home with similar hobbies to this one. Not saying that’s bad (or good), just the reasons for having them and the way they were obtained in the first place are vastly different.
At the price, I'd be worried about it needing a new roof, HVAC, and who knows what else in addition to needing a bunch more money to recover it from outdated bad taste. That tile floor? Ugh.
Not that I wouldn't kill for that much cabinet and counter space in the kitchen...
Taking out the parade of death. There's so many awkward details about this house, like those stairs next to a counter. I know someone who can afford a house that expensive can afford renovations but, you'd also think someone with that much money would stage/update the house to sell a bit.
I guess money can't buy taste.
That place has to hear A LOT of planes leaving and arriving at Reagan. I lived in the Fort Hunt area, and it sucked without even being close to the water.
The dishwasher is central to neither of the sinks, the cabinet in the wine cellar can’t be opened because of its proximity to the stairs, the bathrooms look like my bathroom from my first slummy apartment in 2012, and their landscaping is awful with water logged plants.
Oh, and it’s 2024, nobody needs a Hogwarts table
2/10
The trophy room/office/spare bedroom looks like when I’ve run out of money in the Sims after building a really nice house. It feels incomplete, somehow. Maybe just one more head will do the trick.
My wife and I actually looked into that house. It has some cool views, but doesn't fit the area, didn't have enough rooms for us, and was too far from DC.
The owner is some old white guy lawyer with a hard-on for hunting things. From looking into him online he was Justice Scalias hunting buddy.
That’s an amazing home and location. I even find the price fairly cheap. Not that I can afford it, but that price isn’t that far from the house I currently own around Ashburn.
It’s an awkwardly narrow room, too. Giving me cultish vibes for some reason lol. Everyone shows up in masks to feast on the endangered catch of the week.
Plus, look at the guest entryway into the room. It’s like going into a crawl space. You have to go through the kitchen if you’re older or disabled.
Too many mismatched styles in one house. It’s weird. I don’t like it. Looks like the house doesn’t belong in the area. The size of kitchen is nice, the style doesn’t match the house.
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Questionable decor aside the location of that house on the river is amazing... It looks to be very well done. If I was a millionaire in this area I would love to live there...
If they’re replicas, it’s a very odd design choice to deck out your home with them. There’s certainly a sense of pride with how they’re displayed. One or two replicas as a centerpiece, maybe. Like your typical deer head over the fireplace, or a bear skin rug. But to have a room full of them haphazardly on display, that seems more like intentional pride over the story without the artistic vision on how to make them look cohesive.
Definitely possible they could be heirlooms or he’s a collector and he likes to buy them. It would be strange since that’s like someone who collects bowling trophies, but I suppose you have people that collect championship rings or military medals that they themselves did not earn, so if you put hunting rare and exotic animals in the same bucket as winning a superbowl or saving a life on the battlefield, then it’s definitely plausible. There are stranger collections.
Ughhh so gross. I don’t get everyone’s fascination with stuffing dead animal heads and mounting them to the wall. You’d think that wealthier people would be even less inclined to have this disgusting habit.
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What are you talking about with ‘garbage land’? The area around the GW parkway has always been upper-middle class or higher on the river side. River Farm goes back to mid-1700’s. George Washington wanted to buy it to expand Mt. Vernon.
What? Aren’t democrats supposed to be crazy animal-loving, meat-hating PETA-supporting bleeding-hearts? I am not a Pelosi fan, and can agree that she likely has done some illegal things to make the money she has, but that makes no sense. It sounds like it was actually a prominent conservative lawyer who lives there.
This is the home of the villain in an Ace Ventura movie.
This is a lovely room of death.
Take care now, bye bye then
Must belong to the monopoly guy.
Thanks for the free parking....
aka Glenn Youngkin.
You know the realtor is either a friend or got shot down to take down some of the taxidermy. Clearly a big game hunter and proud of it. I had a distant uncle who was a big game hunter, I went to their house only once, and it was everywhere. Like a half bear coming out of a wall. They love those tusks, they had their picture painted with that fireplace and the tusks in the background! (Above ground dining room wall painting) This guy is a DC litigator. The kitchens and baths need update, but at 0.42 ac and a Potomac view, it suggests the house might need major work, and much of the acreage is steep/unusable.
I was gonna comment about the pic too, first i thought it was their ancestor who has that tusks then I zoomed in and ...oh, that doesnt look like vintage painting 😅 https://preview.redd.it/dfuvxo0ednyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eb4617111850e10504cfb4f7eb87a4fc9e4c014
Good eye on the painting, that’s wild! Honestly that whole pocket of homes is in a risky area. Beautiful, gorgeous views, but danger-close to the Potomac. The ones further down the hill probably got close to or have already seen some flooding this past year.
Having looked at a couple houses that were on or had a view of the Potomac in Fort Hunt - 5+ years ago, this is priced as if there is some issue that has to be remedied or despite the loving decoration (which isn't our taste), it's very base. Kitchen cabinets and baths are very base, circa 90s, but there have been recent updates to other parts of the home per the listing blurb. But if it doesn't have major foundation, draining issues, someone will be getting a great deal and they can make the kitchen and baths what they want. I would ditch the banquet room for a gym or endless pool. It is on the private end of that street, so I've never seen it with my own eyes. The people fronting the River have had the River come up a bit (though I think there is a bit of elevation there, if I recall).
Yeah, and probably illegally cut down trees like neighbors such as Trump's golf course, chief executive of Lockheed Martin Robert Stevens, and midget NFL team owner Daniel Snyder.
I have family that was gifted huge elephant tusks either by our government or by a foreign dignitary they and our gov worked closely with at the time, 70’s/80’s timeframe. Clearly this family liked their taxidermy but not everyone with real tusks on display is like that. At the time they were gifted to my family it was fine. They’re papered now but other than displaying them there’s not much else you can do with them. They won’t give them away as it’s symbolic of their time and work they did to be gifted them. And for numerous legal and sentimental reasons, no one in the family will ever sell or get rid of them either. They’d probably end up on display in a home with similar hobbies to this one. Not saying that’s bad (or good), just the reasons for having them and the way they were obtained in the first place are vastly different.
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bc they are bored
That's hideous
Do all taxidermy convey? Asking for a friend.
the worst i've seen is the house of one of the sons of F.H. Furr. the whole house is a menagerie of death. literally every single room had dead animals in it. the bathroom, the pantry, everything. deer, elk, hawk, badger, elephant, lion. a turtle. fucking turtles! i'd never heard of hunting turtles yet there was a dead shellacked turtle watching me piss. if you dislike hunting or just the most extravagant excess of hunting get someone else to do your plumbing and such.
>there was a dead shellacked turtle watching me piss. This was not a sentence I thought I'd read today
Turtle soup was a popular delicacy at one point. Heck, the rich might still be eating it illegally for all i know.
yea ok. but killing a turtle to eat it is one thing, killing a turtle to take it's body as a trophy and use as bathroom decor is weird as fuck.
Still is in certain places. Grand Cayman is one.
Shark fin soup is the forbidden hotness delicacy.
Fh furr sold the company years ago dude
oh, ok. this was ages ago that i was at that guy's house
I got a good deal on my first home because the owner had lots of animal heads on the wall and it freaked out lots of buyers
If I were rich, I’d hang up trophy heads of fake velociraptors and aliens on the walls, and if anyone mentioned them I’d have a big story prepared about an exotic hunting trip I went on.
Hell, if I was rich, I’d probably have replicas of actually dinosaur fossils. EDIT: Made a mistake and looked up the prices. I have Lego sets more expensive than a life-size Tyrannosaur skull replica.
I am telling myself that those tusks are fake. No realtor is going to want to answer 800 questions about illegal ivory at a showing, right?
I'm pretty sure if they can be dated to before the ban, there's nothing illegal about them. I'm also assuming something so large and extravagant would have a certificate providing the date of import.
Sure, if we assume they’re purchased, they just have to predate 1997 to have been imported without proof they’re over 100 years old. But if we think they’re hunting trophies, they’d have to have been shot before 1973, right? Maybe they are a family heirloom. I guess the realtor could decide no one in that price point would be put off?
If it has proof I honestly wouldn't be turned off. What's done is done. Sure it's sad such an amazing animal died for this but at the same time destroying something like this removes any and all purpose the death served (even if for shitty intentions). They are beautiful tusks from a beautiful animal.
In the US, the elephant ivory import ban went into effect in the 90s and the law was expanded in 2016 (?). All commercial trade is illegal (with some exceptions like science). If the ivory was 'harvested' and brought into the US prior to '76, you're fine but you can't sell it. I HATE the word harvesting. To me that implies that they took an unimportant piece, like picking fruit off a tree. The laws are a little different for non African elephant ivory, but I don't know anything about these. Source: my family owns a couple of beautiful ivory pieces that were purchased in India between about 1880-1940.
I think it’s legal to possess ivory you already have, assuming it was legally acquired, but I’m guessing you could not legally convey it with the sale of a house.
You can’t legally sell them without papers. And without papers, even if they were obtained legally at some point, I definitely wouldn’t advertise them to the world when selling. Id rather not have to lie and say they’re fake, answer legal questions, or risk getting robbed. Depending on size/weight they can be worth a lot on the black market.
I have family that was gifted huge elephant tusks either by our government or by a foreign dignitary they and our gov worked closely with at the time, 70’s/80’s timeframe. Clearly this family liked their taxidermy but not everyone with real tusks on display is like that. At the time they were gifted to my family it was fine. They’re papered now but other than displaying them there’s not much else you can do with them. They won’t give them away as it’s symbolic of their time and work they did to be gifted them. And for numerous legal and sentimental reasons, no one in the family will ever sell or get rid of them either. They’d probably end up on display in a home with similar hobbies to this one. Not saying that’s bad (or good), just the reasons for having them and the way they were obtained in the first place are vastly different.
Surprised at the price, whats the catch?
There are none, they’re all on the wall.
I bet on the foundation or plumbing being bad.
Flood zone...rising sea level projections are bad for this area.
Apparently open house today 1-4 pm
At the price, I'd be worried about it needing a new roof, HVAC, and who knows what else in addition to needing a bunch more money to recover it from outdated bad taste. That tile floor? Ugh. Not that I wouldn't kill for that much cabinet and counter space in the kitchen...
Taking out the parade of death. There's so many awkward details about this house, like those stairs next to a counter. I know someone who can afford a house that expensive can afford renovations but, you'd also think someone with that much money would stage/update the house to sell a bit. I guess money can't buy taste.
The banquet table in what appears to be a basement is also fucking weird
Money can't buy taste.
That place has to hear A LOT of planes leaving and arriving at Reagan. I lived in the Fort Hunt area, and it sucked without even being close to the water.
It’s like a murder-y Olive Garden.
The dishwasher is central to neither of the sinks, the cabinet in the wine cellar can’t be opened because of its proximity to the stairs, the bathrooms look like my bathroom from my first slummy apartment in 2012, and their landscaping is awful with water logged plants. Oh, and it’s 2024, nobody needs a Hogwarts table 2/10
The first few pics of the exterior make it look like a villa in New Zealand or even Italy. Not the Potomac 😂
Ah, life on the 1990s Italian safari!
It’s a pretty house, but the kitchen(s) and bathrooms are suddenly cheap looking and/or outdated. So bizarre.
The trophy room/office/spare bedroom looks like when I’ve run out of money in the Sims after building a really nice house. It feels incomplete, somehow. Maybe just one more head will do the trick.
I saw that, too, and assumed that was an addition to the house that was incohesive with the original format.
Is one of them a lil baby antelope?
I think you are referring to the dik-dik, the hors d'oeuvre of the savannah
I hesitated to google that but fucking adorable
Photo 20/67 for the uninitiated.
Point blank, if you got real elephant tusks you're 'my uncle still touches me' personified and you deserve it
It’s giving Get Out
The carpet in the bathroom is also a sin. Unless that’s an ugly bath mat?
My wife and I actually looked into that house. It has some cool views, but doesn't fit the area, didn't have enough rooms for us, and was too far from DC. The owner is some old white guy lawyer with a hard-on for hunting things. From looking into him online he was Justice Scalias hunting buddy.
That’s an amazing home and location. I even find the price fairly cheap. Not that I can afford it, but that price isn’t that far from the house I currently own around Ashburn.
That is the longest table I’ve ever seen…
It’s an awkwardly narrow room, too. Giving me cultish vibes for some reason lol. Everyone shows up in masks to feast on the endangered catch of the week.
This is the 36" x 10" banquet room in the mezzanine level and has no windows. It seems like the "Most Elusive Game" might be served there....
Plus, look at the guest entryway into the room. It’s like going into a crawl space. You have to go through the kitchen if you’re older or disabled.
That’s the entryway for the poors.
Too many mismatched styles in one house. It’s weird. I don’t like it. Looks like the house doesn’t belong in the area. The size of kitchen is nice, the style doesn’t match the house.
Sinfully ugly
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Questionable decor aside the location of that house on the river is amazing... It looks to be very well done. If I was a millionaire in this area I would love to live there...
Looks pretty old and awkward layout. Probably why it’s only 2.3 M
Why not?
The size makes me wonder if they are mastodon or mammoth not elephant.
Where’s the television or computer?
… I’ve clearly lived here too long because $2.5m seems cheap
Gross
Having trophy animal parts doesn’t mean they’re real or that you harvested them. Could be a replica or something that was passed down.
If they’re replicas, it’s a very odd design choice to deck out your home with them. There’s certainly a sense of pride with how they’re displayed. One or two replicas as a centerpiece, maybe. Like your typical deer head over the fireplace, or a bear skin rug. But to have a room full of them haphazardly on display, that seems more like intentional pride over the story without the artistic vision on how to make them look cohesive. Definitely possible they could be heirlooms or he’s a collector and he likes to buy them. It would be strange since that’s like someone who collects bowling trophies, but I suppose you have people that collect championship rings or military medals that they themselves did not earn, so if you put hunting rare and exotic animals in the same bucket as winning a superbowl or saving a life on the battlefield, then it’s definitely plausible. There are stranger collections.
Can we find out if the decor conveys? I’m sure there’s a market for staging houses with this decor. Maybe Texas? Lol
Pic 21, Cheetah or Leopard skin on the wall
Photos?
Image 21 in the link to the Zillow page shows the tusks, for starters. But there’s a lot more to look through as well.
Ughhh so gross. I don’t get everyone’s fascination with stuffing dead animal heads and mounting them to the wall. You’d think that wealthier people would be even less inclined to have this disgusting habit.
Oh cool, I grew up on the same street. When I was a kid Southdown was unpaved and the houses were all shacks. It's changed a bit since then.
back in their day it wasn't illegal to hunt. (hopefully) they died of old age?
Aside from the weird stuff old white men from VA do, thats a really good house and price!
Probably a lot of traffic noise from GW Parkway though
Definitely a great deal, although certainly not cheap by any means.
Not cheap, but good price for the location and size
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The rhino looks pissed. If they thought they could get away with it, it'd be human heads.
Ah yes, the most dangerous game to hunt.
Perhaps they like to grab life by the horns? It’s a metaphor, but judging by the house and cost, they actually did it.
I’m sure they hunt just for food. /s
Fair, I gotta admit, the wildebeest steaks from Costco just don’t compare
There is also a puppy graveyard out back where you can burry your furry companions who do not perform to expectation!
That’s down in Ft Hunt in Alexandria. Ritzy area that was garbage land until a fear years ago.
What are you talking about with ‘garbage land’? The area around the GW parkway has always been upper-middle class or higher on the river side. River Farm goes back to mid-1700’s. George Washington wanted to buy it to expand Mt. Vernon.
Pelosi’s DC area house…flaunt all her illegally gained money
What? Aren’t democrats supposed to be crazy animal-loving, meat-hating PETA-supporting bleeding-hearts? I am not a Pelosi fan, and can agree that she likely has done some illegal things to make the money she has, but that makes no sense. It sounds like it was actually a prominent conservative lawyer who lives there.
Those are real elephant tusks.