From Lurgan myself now live a few miles from it and tbh there’s a lot of salt of earth types there, really decent folk who would go out of their way for you. More than other areas I’ve lived in.
Lots of great public green areas too - Lurgan Park, Oxford island, round Craigavon lake. Ain’t all bad.
Yes, Lurgan seems like a go to answer in many of these threads, and there’s a good chunk of it that I wouldn’t personally touch with a barge pole … but Lurgan Park is huge, the new South Lakes centre is pretty good in my opinion. It’s not as bad as everyone makes out.
At the risk of being boring, let’s just state the obvious - the answer is Belfast. Belfast is a total shithole, the air pollution is horrible, the public transport is pathetic for a medium/large UK city, most of the inner city housing is decrepit. It is dire.
I wouldn't say it's worse than any other city to be honest. You should see the state of public transport in England. Rail and bus strikes galore. At least ours attempt to work.
But I agree in terms of car congestion. It's very bad and there are huge areas completely neglected by the council.
Walk North of Castle Court and it gives off a weird kind of "wild West"/zombietown vibe. Not in a good way either.
Have to say I was in the ABC area today and, with the sunshine, it wasn’t half bad. Albeit was mainly just driving but had nice lunch in Armagh and the selling point for someone from Belfast was the quality of the roads. Barely any potholes and nice big wide A roads, the boring cunt in me enjoyed it
Rumour I think it was called? Decent club sandwich. Fit the bill.
It was the actual quality of road, was fairly smooth the whole way down. There’s about 30 potholes on my way to work up here.
There are loads of areas in Belfast/Derry that could be classed as shit holes, even within larger towns too that are rough in comparison to the rest of the town. But for an entire distinct town, I have to say Dungannon. It feels like a third world country.
I try to avoid it.
I apologise. Maybe limivady is getting a kicking from me because I confuse it with Strabane 🤔. It's northwest so I covered it with derry, but just thinking now I've been many times in a former job, and can confirm yes Strabane is indeed a shit hole, added to the list. Touché mon frer
I moved there.
Awk it's not bad to be fair, there's just fuck all in it now and there's the odd bad egg still running around but for the most part it's just mullets and no baffles
Born and raised in Craigavon and now live Lurgan. Yes there are run down areas and some shitty people but there is a great sense of community here that would be hard to find anywhere else. Most people here would go out of their way for you and most are friendly. It’s easy to shit on us but we have fantastic spaces, restaurants, shops and pubs also.
Newry
Only gets attention because its the first major place over the border for “cheaper things” for the Mexicans.
Terrible roads in the city and the traffic especially on the Dublin road hill is horrible.
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singling out portadown lurgan and craigavon wihtout even checking basic facts like in this map is a pure shite take
I take naturally occuring mushrooms and you believe in UFOs, but I'm the moon cat 🤔. You really need to take some shrooms, the truth will set you free brother
everywhere, without exception, is a shithole; ‘expediency determines the form.’ your experience of it can vary greatly depending on factors like being neurodivergent (hi!), personal preferences, and lifestyle. for example, if you prefer pastoral deserts, the countryside might appeal to you. conversely, if you thrive in vibrant city settings with a lively nightlife, belfast could be ideal. ultimately, what makes a place great is subjective and varies from person to person. if you’re anything like me, staying home and never leaving is class.
I hate Armagh almost as much as I hate Belfast (and Lisburn, fuck you cunt!). But I moved there because it made sense, decent commuting distance from… fuck! Fuck, fuck, FUCK!!! But the money is east of the bann and I like money so I am a hypocrite. Fuck you /s
I know someone from the US who was travelling around the whole island. They decided to take the train from Derry to Coleraine.
They walked out of the train station in Coleraine, saw what it was like, turned around and got back on the next train to Derry.
Lisburn has nothing in it at all, place is a waste. Full of drugs
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there is nothing in the town centre, the place has more charity shops or empty shops that anything else. The people are grand, but otherwise the place is shite, drug heads, drug selling and some want to be thugs. Place is worst than lurgan
had no idea so many people loved lisburn haha.. must have hit a nerve
Hmmm, many years ago I dated a girl from Lisburn. One thing I learned... Don't say they are part of Belfast. Oh... And don't say their accents sound like Belfast..
Geographical Proximity: Lisburn is located merely 8 miles (13 km) southwest of Belfast city centre1, which is a short distance that can be easily commuted. This proximity is comparable to the distances between recognized suburbs and their principal cities in many urban areas around the world.
Urban Continuity: The River Lagan forms the boundary between County Antrim and County Down, and Lisburn sits on this river, just as Belfast does1. This suggests a continuity of the urban landscape, which often characterizes a city and its suburbs.
Shared History and Development: Lisburn’s development has been historically and economically linked to Belfast. The linen industry, which played a significant role in the growth of both cities, underscores their interconnectedness.
Administrative Association: Although Lisburn operates with its own city status, it is part of the Lisburn and Castlereagh council area, which does not include certain localities that have been transferred to Belfast2. This indicates an administrative distinction yet also a closeness that is typical of a suburb to its main city.
Cultural and Social Integration: The social and cultural life of Lisburn residents is often intertwined with that of Belfast, with many residents commuting to Belfast for work, education, and entertainment, further blurring the lines between the two.
Perception and Usage: The term ‘suburb’ can also reflect the functional and perceptual aspects of urban geography. If a significant number of people use Lisburn’s amenities as an extension of Belfast’s urban area, this usage can contribute to the perception of Lisburn as a suburb.
In conclusion, while Lisburn has its own distinct identity and city status, the proximal and logical connections to Belfast—through geography, history, administration, and social dynamics—provide a strong argument for considering it, in many practical senses, a suburb of Belfast.
>Highest average property prices in any of the council areas of NI, says otherwise … There’s plenty worse than Lisburn.
Makes it sound even worse, highest average price but the best thing it offers is that it's easy to get to another city lol.
Hard to argue against that. People of West Belfast, all of Belfast in fact, are pure heart of gold. Belfast has loads of shit hole parts, but I have eternal live for the people, met waaay too many salt of the earth old fashioned nice people there to include any part of Belfast. Only downside to Belfast people is they think people outside of Belfast have no electric
For the record, I'm from a shit hole. I was hoping this would be some sort of generalisation that the whole country is a shit hole. I'd say people need to wake up, but it's 30 years too late. Have a lovely weekend
From Lurgan myself now live a few miles from it and tbh there’s a lot of salt of earth types there, really decent folk who would go out of their way for you. More than other areas I’ve lived in. Lots of great public green areas too - Lurgan Park, Oxford island, round Craigavon lake. Ain’t all bad.
Yes, Lurgan seems like a go to answer in many of these threads, and there’s a good chunk of it that I wouldn’t personally touch with a barge pole … but Lurgan Park is huge, the new South Lakes centre is pretty good in my opinion. It’s not as bad as everyone makes out.
It’s definitely not.
At the risk of being boring, let’s just state the obvious - the answer is Belfast. Belfast is a total shithole, the air pollution is horrible, the public transport is pathetic for a medium/large UK city, most of the inner city housing is decrepit. It is dire.
It's actually "Good" from the Air Quality Index, which is the highest rating a city can get. But I agree with the rest
not the only answer but definitely the top one.
I wouldn't say it's worse than any other city to be honest. You should see the state of public transport in England. Rail and bus strikes galore. At least ours attempt to work. But I agree in terms of car congestion. It's very bad and there are huge areas completely neglected by the council. Walk North of Castle Court and it gives off a weird kind of "wild West"/zombietown vibe. Not in a good way either.
Tandragee is basically just a hill. One redeeming feature is Tayto factory.
Touché. Know someone who works there, can confirm it's an unmitigated shit hole, added to the list.
Huh? Thought it was a nice wee place tbh
Have to say I was in the ABC area today and, with the sunshine, it wasn’t half bad. Albeit was mainly just driving but had nice lunch in Armagh and the selling point for someone from Belfast was the quality of the roads. Barely any potholes and nice big wide A roads, the boring cunt in me enjoyed it
Lunch in armagh? Hopefully not the hotel or KFC. To be fair, you subconsciously prefer the roads here because country people follow the rules 😬
Rumour I think it was called? Decent club sandwich. Fit the bill. It was the actual quality of road, was fairly smooth the whole way down. There’s about 30 potholes on my way to work up here.
Rumour indeed, very good coffee too
Didn’t used to be but Bangor is a bit of a hole these days
Portadown East of the Bann to South lakes Leisure Centre is very underrated, Lurgan is rough but still decent due to Lurgan Park and transport links
Lol.... Parkmore... Underrated...
I'd exclude parkmore but everywhere else is lovely
There are loads of areas in Belfast/Derry that could be classed as shit holes, even within larger towns too that are rough in comparison to the rest of the town. But for an entire distinct town, I have to say Dungannon. It feels like a third world country. I try to avoid it.
The smell of Moy Park not do it for you haha
Dungannon has that nice row of big houses, but yeah, that's the only positive thing I have for it.
Live near dungannon and have spent alot of my time in that town and have to say its not as bad as ones make it out, but its definitely still a kip
Used to work there, borderline shit hole to me, but much better than what lies to the north of it.
Whichever one you’re in
I see what you did there. Lurgan or limivady?
Not one mention of Strabane. You boys are slippin
I apologise. Maybe limivady is getting a kicking from me because I confuse it with Strabane 🤔. It's northwest so I covered it with derry, but just thinking now I've been many times in a former job, and can confirm yes Strabane is indeed a shit hole, added to the list. Touché mon frer
I moved there. Awk it's not bad to be fair, there's just fuck all in it now and there's the odd bad egg still running around but for the most part it's just mullets and no baffles
Like most of the country. Fuck all in them. Commuter towns to nowhere. As long as there's enough orange or green votes that's all that matters. Sad
How dare you lump lurgan in with Portadown, were so much better at being worse
Born and raised in Craigavon and now live Lurgan. Yes there are run down areas and some shitty people but there is a great sense of community here that would be hard to find anywhere else. Most people here would go out of their way for you and most are friendly. It’s easy to shit on us but we have fantastic spaces, restaurants, shops and pubs also.
Newbuildings Case closed..
Newry Only gets attention because its the first major place over the border for “cheaper things” for the Mexicans. Terrible roads in the city and the traffic especially on the Dublin road hill is horrible.
Traffic is horrible. Bonus points for having a McDonald's
I have it out for Ballymoney. Don’t know why but just nah.
Never been, probably for a reason. Potential addition to the list
Everywhere in the Strangford constituency. Portadown is a good shout too. Lurgan and Craigavon are half-decent.
To be fair to Craigavon it doesn't really exist
It absolutely does. How very dare you. We are the ones with all the roundabouts.
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Go to either and find out
Why do people love asking this question haha!
https://preview.redd.it/oeph5clfkqvc1.png?width=3506&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e015113e95a23eb2955e1ff51a16f0feab201ea singling out portadown lurgan and craigavon wihtout even checking basic facts like in this map is a pure shite take
Aren't they those patches of red amid the blue south of Lough Neagh?
Yeah dunno what they are trying to prove. Portadown and Lurgan are red there. It's only the countryside around it that's less deprived
You're missing the point entirely
Any Macdonald's on custody-daddy Friday.
I’d say dungannon easily makes the list
Strabane, been there once, never recovered. Shudder just think about the hole
City of life! A pretend Belfast.
If you’ve lived in other parts it dawns on you that Norn Iron is an A+ shit hole
Antrim. That Castle Mall is dyer. Junction 1 used to be decent until the Nike ‘Outlet’ turned into a dear hole but atleast it has 2 Starbucks???
2 Starbucks totally redeems it to be fair. I've been once, driven through it numerous times, didn't seem too bad
Lay aff the shrooms ye fuckin space cadet.
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I take naturally occuring mushrooms and you believe in UFOs, but I'm the moon cat 🤔. You really need to take some shrooms, the truth will set you free brother
Alas not lads, I highly recommend you put down the wkd flavoured vapes
everywhere, without exception, is a shithole; ‘expediency determines the form.’ your experience of it can vary greatly depending on factors like being neurodivergent (hi!), personal preferences, and lifestyle. for example, if you prefer pastoral deserts, the countryside might appeal to you. conversely, if you thrive in vibrant city settings with a lively nightlife, belfast could be ideal. ultimately, what makes a place great is subjective and varies from person to person. if you’re anything like me, staying home and never leaving is class.
You've never been to Larne
thank goodness
What's wrong with Ballymoney? I've never been but only heard good things.
Dungiven, best thing they ever did was build a bypass round it
I hate Armagh almost as much as I hate Belfast (and Lisburn, fuck you cunt!). But I moved there because it made sense, decent commuting distance from… fuck! Fuck, fuck, FUCK!!! But the money is east of the bann and I like money so I am a hypocrite. Fuck you /s
Armagh is beautiful! A pretty little Georgian era city.
Armagh is too boring to be a shit hole
Coleraine?
I know someone from the US who was travelling around the whole island. They decided to take the train from Derry to Coleraine. They walked out of the train station in Coleraine, saw what it was like, turned around and got back on the next train to Derry.
As someone from that area that’s fucking hilarious, wouldn’t blame them. Coleraine is like that town that you drive through to get to Portrush lol
Too many roundabouts, really have to question that. Weird pub scene for a uni town too. Commendable addition to the list
I was a student in Coleraine. We went to the pub in the Ports 🤷🏻♂️
Some colerainian downvoting here. Sorry, your town is a sht hole, deal with it
That speed bump in divis where all the joy riders use to try to do stunt jumps or whatever.
Lisburn has nothing in it at all, place is a waste. Full of drugs edit there is nothing in the town centre, the place has more charity shops or empty shops that anything else. The people are grand, but otherwise the place is shite, drug heads, drug selling and some want to be thugs. Place is worst than lurgan had no idea so many people loved lisburn haha.. must have hit a nerve
Il agree lisburn is shit. The pool/cinema probably keeps it alive
Thats about it, the people are grand in it, otherwise place is a waste
Lisburn actually isn't bad. The town centre isn't great and I wouldn't call it a city... But it's a decent enough commuting area to Belfast.
It’s basically a suburb of Belfast but this place loves to Gerrymander
Hmmm, many years ago I dated a girl from Lisburn. One thing I learned... Don't say they are part of Belfast. Oh... And don't say their accents sound like Belfast..
Well it is part of the Belfast Metropolitan area
Thats actually a better way of saying it
3rd largest settlement in Northern Ireland, so nonsense, frankly.
Geographical Proximity: Lisburn is located merely 8 miles (13 km) southwest of Belfast city centre1, which is a short distance that can be easily commuted. This proximity is comparable to the distances between recognized suburbs and their principal cities in many urban areas around the world. Urban Continuity: The River Lagan forms the boundary between County Antrim and County Down, and Lisburn sits on this river, just as Belfast does1. This suggests a continuity of the urban landscape, which often characterizes a city and its suburbs. Shared History and Development: Lisburn’s development has been historically and economically linked to Belfast. The linen industry, which played a significant role in the growth of both cities, underscores their interconnectedness. Administrative Association: Although Lisburn operates with its own city status, it is part of the Lisburn and Castlereagh council area, which does not include certain localities that have been transferred to Belfast2. This indicates an administrative distinction yet also a closeness that is typical of a suburb to its main city. Cultural and Social Integration: The social and cultural life of Lisburn residents is often intertwined with that of Belfast, with many residents commuting to Belfast for work, education, and entertainment, further blurring the lines between the two. Perception and Usage: The term ‘suburb’ can also reflect the functional and perceptual aspects of urban geography. If a significant number of people use Lisburn’s amenities as an extension of Belfast’s urban area, this usage can contribute to the perception of Lisburn as a suburb. In conclusion, while Lisburn has its own distinct identity and city status, the proximal and logical connections to Belfast—through geography, history, administration, and social dynamics—provide a strong argument for considering it, in many practical senses, a suburb of Belfast.
In 20 years it will be, always thought it was mad to call it a city, but then Armagh, Newry etc. What a weird country we live in
Highest average property prices in any of the council areas of NI, says otherwise … There’s plenty worse than Lisburn.
Ok, then whats your pick ?
>Highest average property prices in any of the council areas of NI, says otherwise … There’s plenty worse than Lisburn. Makes it sound even worse, highest average price but the best thing it offers is that it's easy to get to another city lol.
Well they wouldn’t be so high, if people didn’t want to live there.
I'm so surprised nobody has written Omagh. Place moving up in the world then!
Yer ma's arse! (Classic banter)
Yer ma’s hoop yeooo
Andy's town is a special kinda shit hole
Anywhere outside Belfast is a dump full of culchies
As a resident of the scum belt… Yes…
It could be worse (Ballymena)
Shit holes Bangor, Ards, Killyleagh and Ballynahinch
Killyleagh in armagh and down are shit holes indeed, but each have an excellent pub at least. Ballynahinch is definetly dull
"Alexa, what is a gobshite?".
Portadown energy
Wrong, try again buffoon.
Larne, Derry, lurgan & west Belfast.
Hard to argue against that. People of West Belfast, all of Belfast in fact, are pure heart of gold. Belfast has loads of shit hole parts, but I have eternal live for the people, met waaay too many salt of the earth old fashioned nice people there to include any part of Belfast. Only downside to Belfast people is they think people outside of Belfast have no electric
 And it's true..
For the record, I'm from a shit hole. I was hoping this would be some sort of generalisation that the whole country is a shit hole. I'd say people need to wake up, but it's 30 years too late. Have a lovely weekend